Baraka_Guru

Are you sure about that? Or were you just expecting cheerleaders?

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Knowing that death is certain and that the time of death is uncertain, what's the most important thing?
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Humankind cannot bear very much reality.
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The_Jazz

Why are you the bad guy? Because you're the one who wants to shoot her and drain her blood down a pole. You're the one who confessed to psychotic thoughts back in your very first post.

Does it suck that you got rejected? Yeah. I feel for you, bro. Are you handling it in anything close to a sane manner? Oh hells no.

As far as Baraka_Guru taking your statements out of context, I don't see how you can even think that's possible.

I'm left here wondering want I need to do from an ethical standpoint about warning this woman about you. And whether or not authorities need to be alerted.

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OK, it's a selfish act. So what? She needs to "pay" for it? Don't you think that there are even worse selfish acts going on around every single day? What about the guy that cut in front of you in line at the grocery store? How about the corporations that steal your money? What about the politicians? What about your parents who brought you into this sorry world? Aren't they to blame? How about the guy she rejected you for?

YOUR THOUGHTS AS DESCRIBED ARE PSYCOTIC AND NEED THE ATTENTION OF MEDICAL PROFESSIONALS BEFORE YOU BECOME A DANGER TO YOURSELF OR OTHERS. PRINT THIS THREAD AND SHOW IT TO YOUR THERAPIST.

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Baraka_Guru

He was referring to the text I had responded to originally, not anything I said myself.

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Knowing that death is certain and that the time of death is uncertain, what's the most important thing?
—Bhikkhuni Pema Chödrön

Humankind cannot bear very much reality.
—From "Burnt Norton," Four Quartets (1936), T. S. Eliot

Darrylcwc

Now I just received a msg from her asking me to enjoy my flight tonight. Should I just tell her to F off? I don't want to hear anything from her.

Craven Morehead

Dude, drop the shit and get on with your life. This happens thousands of times each day, everywhere. It's happened to me a couple of times and probably most people here, also. I moved on. Most people do, nearly everyone does. But you. You want to whack her. Get real. Drop the tough guy act, grow some balls and move on. In reality, you couldn't be any weaker if you tried.

Darrylcwc

Go fuck yourself. She's txting me when I want her to get the fuck out of my life!

cj2112

I'm going to still suggest that you show this thread to those caring for you're mental health. You are not ok. This type of anger is not justified.

As far as the text, either respond w/ a polite thank you, or don't respond. Anything else seems kinda out there to me. Then again, go batshit crazy via text, tell her that she's a no good fucking two bit whore who should be raped and murdered. At least then she'll get to see what kind of anger you really harbor towards her.
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Darrylcwc

Whether or not it is justified is up to me to judge. I justified whether or not it is a justified anger based on the damage she caused. Saying "Oh, its you with the problem" is just stupid. It penalized the innocent population.

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EDIT.
Whether or not it is justified is up to me to judge. I make the justification as to whether or not it is a justifiable anger based on the damage she caused. Saying "Oh, its you with the problem" is just stupid. It penalized the innocent population. I DON'T GET HER. WHY CANT SHE JUST FUCK OFF AWAY FROM ME. I DON'T NEED HER GOD DAM MESSAGES. SHE WON'T KEEP TO HERSELF AND I AM THE ONE WHO ENDS UP BEING PENALIZED? LIKE I MENTIONED BEFORE, GO FUCK YOURSELF.

zenda

Darryn ... Hi. Firstly, she's thinking about you, secondly she's wishing you well, and even more than that, she wanted to let you know. I agree that a "Thank you" or a terse 'thx' would be sufficient, after all, you are furious with her, but she is being nice.

Mind you, your statements of intent to do her damage, whether it be physical or emotional do, indeed, put readers in a position of potential ethical obligation. And yes, some of them will sound worried, upset, and straight out angry at you. I bet it does hurt like hell to read that on your computer monitor when you're feeling the way you're feeling, but can you grit your teeth, because you've stirred up a storm, and what's coming back at you might feel rock-hard, but it is rock solid.

People are telling you what you need to know NOW in a situation for which you have little or no experience. You said that you have carefully practised staying away from people who might inflict unnecessary damage, and you have been successful so far. "I never had been failed, much less deal with the anger that comes with failure." It is BECAUSE you have been successful so far, you are, at present, very inexperienced in dealing with those feelings. You have not got ENOUGH experience YET regarding how to separate 'feeling angry with' from 'want to do bad things to the person you are angry with. The inner 'feeling' of anger is yours ... beyond need to justify. How you choose to express it, is, however, subject to justification and judgement, yours, yes, and also of those around you. I reckon we are big enough to absorb a few 'Go fuck yourself's ... you're a human animal in pain, and a lion will roar when someone grasps the thorn in its paw. A lion thrashing around is also at risk of harming himself and others. Concerned bystanders have to take that into account too. At the moment, this is your blind spot ... your Achilles Heel. Some of these posts you are reading are agony, at a time when you have been feeling rotten already. They might not fit your sense of logic or fairness, but they are, in my opinion, the best things you need to hear at the moment.

They are not being said gently, because you need to change NOW. The sooner you do this now, the sooner many agonies will be in the past. And you know things need to Change Now, Darryl, because, while it is about you and one woman, it is also about those times which will happen in the future when you might judge things and people as being unfair. You Need Now to learn what you need to deal with them. You cannot allow them to interfere with your prospects, your college work, or your values of being a nice person. You need to be prepared. One way you dealt with stuff has been to choose your friends carefully - "high caliber". Preventative action. Good. And this here, is part of the other side of the coin: your 101 course in how to begin appropriately to deal with unfair adversity when it happens.

Best wishes

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chinese crested

New sim card? You seem to have picked up a big bag of crap that you are having trouble putting down. Talk to your healthcare professionals - they will help you learn how to put the bag down. Please dont hold onto the bag of crap clutching it to your chest.

Try a bit of Oscar Wilde
The Nightingale and the Rose
'She said that she would dance with me if I brought her red roses,' cried the young Student; 'but in all my garden there is no red rose.'

From her nest in the holm-oak tree the Nightingale heard him, and she looked out through the leaves, and wondered.

'No red rose in all my garden!' he cried, and his beautiful eyes filled with tears. 'Ah, on what little things does happiness depend! I have read all that the wise men have written, and all the secrets of philosophy are mine, yet for want of a red rose is my life made wretched.'

'Here at last is a true lover,' said the Nightingale. 'Night after night have I sung of him, though I knew him not: night after night have I told his story to the stars, and now I see him. His hair is dark as the hyacinth-blossom, and his lips are red as the rose of his desire; but passion has made his lace like pale Ivory, and sorrow has set her seal upon his brow.'

Read the rest - who are you in this story? Short Stories: The Nightingale and the Rose by Oscar Wilde

Darrylcwc

Maybe she is, maybe she's not and doing only so as a form of social ritual. I have grown skeptical of her, her actions and her intentions. I have developed a severe phobia towards her. I do not know of her actions as to its genuity.
We speak of moral obligations, its nature and the very operative mode on which it function. What really is morality?

The audience speaks of a certain moral imperative they are obliged to act upon, a moral dilemma in which they must chose. How genuine is this? If every agent caught in this dilemma finds themselves necessarily having do advert an immoral act, then surely, they must be sufficiently righteous to warn of victims like me of her kind. Only the painless and free agents talk about what is right and wrong, and, good and evil. But against the backdrop of a causal nexus, what is right and wrong?
These two antonym now appears to be nothing more than social construct whose values must be measured relative against something for it to really mean anything.
I remember once, as a young boy, asking Dad a question. If someone were to walk into a prison, open the gate of each cells and fired at point blank every prisoner on a death roll, would this man be guilty? I asserted no. Dad was against me. Our constitutions is nothing more than a function of damage control. Our pathetic law is nothing more than a slave to protect what is valuable. It never was a pillar to necessitate what is morally right and wrong.


Your words hold weight. It is worthy to contemplate upon.

cj2112

No. It is up to the society you live in to judge whether it's justified. You are not making sense, and your thoughts appear to be irrational. Please seek help.

Darrylcwc

[quote=chinese crested;2908647]New sim card? You seem to have picked up a big bag of crap that you are having trouble putting down. Talk to your healthcare professionals - they will help you learn how to put the bag down. Please dont hold onto the bag of crap clutching it to your chest.

Try a bit of Oscar Wilde
The Nightingale and the Rose
'She said that she would dance with me if I brought her red roses,' cried the young Student; 'but in all my garden there is no red rose.'

From her nest in the holm-oak tree the Nightingale heard him, and she looked out through the leaves, and wondered.

'No red rose in all my garden!' he cried, and his beautiful eyes filled with tears. 'Ah, on what little things does happiness depend! I have read all that the wise men have written, and all the secrets of philosophy are mine, yet for want of a red rose is my life made wretched.'

'Here at last is a true lover,' said the Nightingale. 'Night after night have I sung of him, though I knew him not: night after night have I told his story to the stars, and now I see him. His hair is dark as the hyacinth-blossom, and his lips are red as the rose of his desire; but passion has made his lace like pale Ivory, and sorrow has set her seal upon his brow.'

Read the rest - who are you in this story?

Oscar Wilde-it is a name I haven't heard for a very long time. Those were the times when the biggest bad was to have your candy stolen.

Who do I identify with? The student.

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You are mistaken. You believe our social law exists from the root of time. Unfortunately, our laws are constructed from the existence of Homo Sapiens. Without the existence of composition of Homo Sapiens in a particular point in time and space, our law will never come to be.
Social law was never absolute. Unlike the universal law which just is, our social law dictates what ought to be, what should be.

Before you even make any answers one must ask themselves the right question. The right answer is corollary from the right question-"Are ideas the pawn of reality? Or is reality the pawn of ideas?"

Manic_Skafe

Cool it, Raskolnikov. High minded as your "problems" may be you're still actively choosing to live like a loser and a deranged creep. The entirety of this ridiculous situation is no more complex than your obvious inability to take your lumps and move on with your life. All the rest, the hatred and this morality nonsense especially, is drama and I am embarrassed for you.

You strike me as someone who has it all too easy, fixated because there probably isn't much of anything else going on in your life. Well take a look around you, life shits on us all pretty indiscriminately and that it saw fit to afford you the cognitive space to wallow in your self-induced nonsense is a luxury that plenty of people with real problems would kil for. Smart as you are and yet suffering through the clearly insufferable weight of a privileged existence. Spare me the righteous indignation.

Go backpack through a third world country or volunteer a weekend in a cancer clinic. See suffering in the eyes of those born without a fair shake. Get some perspective and humble yourself in the process. You aren't tortured, you're just bored and pretentious.

I'm not sorry for you.

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The_Jazz

Of the 2000 or so break up threads here at TFP, this has to one of the least dramatic - except for the OP. Did she cheat on you? No. Did she abort your child? No. Does she want to take a dump in your mouth? No.

This is a complete over-reaction. Again, I'm not sure what you want from this thread. You're never going to get a positive reaction spewing this sort of hatred.

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"There ought to be limits to freedom." - George W. Bush
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Iliftrocks

Telling her to F off is more mature than revenge fantasies. So yes, tell her you don't want anything to do with her, and go on living, hopefully, a happy life.

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Is it just me, or has the OPs grammar improved vastly over the thread?

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chinese crested

Darrylcwc - I think perhaps you are the student and the nightingale. The bird your heart, and killing it will not bring her nearer, nor make the shallow deep. To be fair to the girl, she had no idea of the cost of her fickle nature. Would you not, if you could, save the bird from its own generous folly? Darrylcwc - step away from the dark rose bush.

Darrylcwc

I have seen more death, sickness and pain within my family since a young boy to know what suffering is.
The term 'pretentious' would be never be on the list of descriptive words of anyone to describe me who knows well. Quite the contrary, I speak my mind on anything even if it means going against the grain. Just because you failed to comprehend my anger doesn't make it any less an obsolete state of mind. In any case, I rather take an advice or two from chinese_crested.

chinese crested

I think it was buggering the son of the marquess of Queensbury? Bit of turn screwing and all that.

Giant Hamburger

This thread is fascinating!

I like the energy in Darryl's posts.
Hopefully the rage will subside and he can use this power for more constructive means.
Your resources are wasted in the struggle for a vengeance to an unrequited love.

Perhaps you could just build a shrine of skulls or burn the eyes out of all your pictures of her and then move on to the next object of your affections.

cj2112

n/m I really don't need to engage in a pissing match. However, when pretty much every body tells you that you're being creepy and you aren't right, there might be something to it.