Gatorade Frost

Alright, I know in my time on these forums I always poked fun at those "Is she pregnant?" threads, but right now I'm t rying to give peace of mind to my girlfriend. She's been on Apri for about two weeks now, and we had a condom break a few minutes ago (but I didn't cum.)

Right now she wants to go get Plan-B, but I don't think it's necessary - For anyone who knows, what would you recommend we do?

__________________
I got in a fight one time with a really big guy, and he said, "I'm going to mop the floor with your face." I said, "You'll be sorry." He said, "Oh, yeah? Why?" I said, "Well, you won't be able to get into the corners very well."
Emo Philips

seretogis

Stick to anal sex?

__________________
seretogis - sieg heil
perfect little dream the kind that hurts the most, forgot how it feels well almost
no one to blame always the same, open my eyes wake up in flames

Gatorade Frost

Yea, I've tried that... She just tends to prefer the real thing

__________________
I got in a fight one time with a really big guy, and he said, "I'm going to mop the floor with your face." I said, "You'll be sorry." He said, "Oh, yeah? Why?" I said, "Well, you won't be able to get into the corners very well."
Emo Philips

*Nikki*

Gatorade Frost

Not sure why you'd be against the "Plan B thing" since it's just a high dose of the birth control pill and it basically does the same thing on the fly rather than on a day to day basis.

__________________
I got in a fight one time with a really big guy, and he said, "I'm going to mop the floor with your face." I said, "You'll be sorry." He said, "Oh, yeah? Why?" I said, "Well, you won't be able to get into the corners very well."
Emo Philips

pig

gatrade,

if you have plan b handy and/or can get it and/or can afford it...then why not? you don't have moral qualms about it, so if you do it and you didn't need it...then nothing happens. if you don't do it and needed it...then something happens. i think you want nothing to happen.

just sayin...

__________________
You don't love me, you just love my piggy style

Gatorade Frost

Yeah, I think that's what we're going to do to ease her mind. Thanks for the input everyone.

__________________
I got in a fight one time with a really big guy, and he said, "I'm going to mop the floor with your face." I said, "You'll be sorry." He said, "Oh, yeah? Why?" I said, "Well, you won't be able to get into the corners very well."
Emo Philips

tenniels

I also agree with taking the Plan B, just to ease both of you all's minds. I'm sorry, but what does on Apri mean? I get confuzzled easily so I know that must sound stupid.

__________________

Gatorade Frost

Apri (Desogen) is a form of birth control

__________________
I got in a fight one time with a really big guy, and he said, "I'm going to mop the floor with your face." I said, "You'll be sorry." He said, "Oh, yeah? Why?" I said, "Well, you won't be able to get into the corners very well."
Emo Philips

surferlove007

Dude, I've taken it before and what a peace of mind it offers.
Nothing wrong at all, consider it your safety net.

Hope it works out for you.

noodlebee

Ask for a blood test first.... ASAP if possible. I heard that this is the fastest way to determine pregnancy. If you are in university, it should be easy to get this done quickly and easily. Best of luck.

Toaster126

Are you against birth control too? If not, what do you think the difference between birth control and "Plan B" is?

__________________
"The question isn't who is going to let me, it's who is going to stop me." (Ayn Rand)
"The truth is that our finest moments are most likely to occur when we are feeling deeply uncomfortable, unhappy, or unfulfilled. For it is only in such moments, propelled by our discomfort, that we are likely to step out of our ruts and start searching for different ways or truer answers." (M. Scott Peck)

*Nikki*

Toaster126:


“The FDA describes Plan B as ‘a contraceptive drug’ and equates its side effects to those of ordinary birth control pills. While Plan B can prevent fertilization, the manufacturer admits it may also prevent a newly-conceived embryo from implanting and surviving in the womb. This is properly understood as causing an early abortion."

Birth control pills prevent pregnancy before an embryo is implanted in the womb.

That is why I am against it.

Toaster126

Does that mean you are against combination (estrogen and progestin) pills, the "mini-pill", and IUDs and use/support only estrogen-only pills?

__________________
"The question isn't who is going to let me, it's who is going to stop me." (Ayn Rand)
"The truth is that our finest moments are most likely to occur when we are feeling deeply uncomfortable, unhappy, or unfulfilled. For it is only in such moments, propelled by our discomfort, that we are likely to step out of our ruts and start searching for different ways or truer answers." (M. Scott Peck)

lurkette

Go with the Plan B - much better to go through a little inconvenience right now for no reason than to guess wrong and have to deal with an actual pregnancy.

__________________
"If ten million people believe a foolish thing, it is still a foolish thing."

- Anatole France

Gatorade Frost

Yeah, we got the plan-b and things are alright now.

__________________
I got in a fight one time with a really big guy, and he said, "I'm going to mop the floor with your face." I said, "You'll be sorry." He said, "Oh, yeah? Why?" I said, "Well, you won't be able to get into the corners very well."
Emo Philips

cadre

I think what she's saying is that birth control stops the pregnancy before it happens where as Plan B can actually stop a fertilized egg from being able to survive in the womb, effectively killing it if you consider a fertilized egg to be a person.

__________________
My life is one of those 'you had to be there' jokes.

Dilbert1234567

although ovulation should technically have stopped, hormonal contraceptive also makes it harder for the egg to implant in the walls of the uterus by altering the endometrium. so technically, a fertile egg could be flushed out with the womans normal cycle, however, this is fairly common for fertile eggs to not take hold in the uterus for any other number of reasons.

__________________
Donate Blood!

"Love is not finding the perfect person, but learning to see an imperfect person perfectly." -Sam Keen

Johnny Rotten

For future reference, there is a small chance of pregnancy when a condom breaks, even if you don't come. It's just a question of volume. The pre-come that acts as a natural lubricant can have sperm in it.

__________________
"The idea that money doesn't buy you happiness is a lie put about by the rich, to stop the poor from killing them." -- Michael Caine

Toaster126

Right. But as all the other methods I mentioned in my post (as well as some more) have the same ability to remove/stop fertilized eggs from doing what they need to for survival. I was just clarifying she was against all of them for the same reason.

__________________
"The question isn't who is going to let me, it's who is going to stop me." (Ayn Rand)
"The truth is that our finest moments are most likely to occur when we are feeling deeply uncomfortable, unhappy, or unfulfilled. For it is only in such moments, propelled by our discomfort, that we are likely to step out of our ruts and start searching for different ways or truer answers." (M. Scott Peck)

james t kirk

If you didn't come, the odds of her getting pregnant are very very small.

I was with a woman for 3 years. We never used condoms, she was never on the pill. I withdrew at the moment of climax every time - no problems.

One of my best friends has been married for 20 years, also using the withdrawl method and he's never had a failure.

Withdrawl can work. Where it screws up is that last stroke if you take it.

If you weren't even close to coming, she's not pregnant.

You can easily have a blood test if you are worried though.

ShaniFaye

are you serious? are you not aware that you can get a girl preggie from pre-cum? obviously not....so here is an article (one of many if you google) that explains it

http://www.teenwire.com/education/activity-006.php

__________________
I want the diabetic plan that comes with rollover carbs. I dont like the unused one expiring at midnite!!

waltert

if the birth control she's taking is effective within two weeks, the condom broke, you didnt cum, and she got pregnant, I'm pretty sure there's a good chance that your child would be a direct descendant of god.

but you went for the +1 and hit plan B, so you're gravy

james t kirk

I am well aware of what they teach in sex ed classes as to whether or not a woman can get pregnant when using the withdrawl method. Just like I am aware that women can get pregnant while using condoms, or even pills.

However, read your own quote....

"Pulling out is not a very reliable method for young people because some guys lack the experience and self-control to pull out in time, or they say they will pull out, and then they get so excited and carried away that they don't. Also, some guys can't tell when they are going to ejaculate"

As I said, you need to pull out before you come. I've been doing it for years, so has a friend of mine. It works.

How many men out there have low sperm counts (I know 2) who have sex all the times with their wives and there is no conception. That's low sperm counts, not no sperm counts.

Like so many things in life, people tend to the absolute. Good / Bad, Black / White, whatever. The fact of the matter is that there may be a very very small chance of getting preggers from precome, however, you have better odds of getting stung to death by bees. As such, the word goes out that you should not use withdrawl as birth control. Very simple, it's an absolute and we humans just love our absolutes don't we.

As I said, you have to pull out before you come, not as you are coming. It takes a lot of disciplin.

The man did not come inside his girlfriend. Odds are, she is not pregnant.

ShaniFaye

***edit

I've said what I have to say, no point in beating a dead horse or trying to convince someone they are giving bad advice.

suffice it to say women can get preggie from pre cum

I should know....thats how I got preggie the first time and last time I checked I hadnt been stung to death by bee's even though I'm HIGHLY allergic to them.

__________________
I want the diabetic plan that comes with rollover carbs. I dont like the unused one expiring at midnite!!

skier

Since I've got a bigger chance of being stung to death by bees, that's... what, a 1 in 5 chance?

Jesus christ, it's a bee stinging epidemic! That's at least 5 million americans a year!



But seriously, if you pull out, time the cycles right, and she stands up and does the wiggle when you're done, you're still looking at a 2-5% chance she'll get pregnant. When the consequences are 18 years and a million dollar fine, I'll stick to condoms and birth control, thanks.

__________________
"Asking a bomb squad if an old bomb is still "real" is not the best thing to do if you want to save it." - denim

Menoman

also used pulled out method, for about 4 years, no pregs.

the chances really are definatly pretty small, alot of the 'omgazh u get preg even when pullout' comes from the whole abstinance crew and christian wait til marriage crew.

I've known alot of people who have told me pullout method works but is obviously not as good as condoms and the more conventional protections.

__________________

Reese

I think you're safe, but do what you gotta do to ease your mind.

Think about it, Birth control pills are widly used by many people as the only form of contrceptive and it works, ya know, most of the time.
Pre-cum doesn't ALWAYS contain sperm. The only time it does is when there's sperm in the urethra from a previous ejaculation. Peeing cleans the pipes so if you pee afterwards, your next precum most likely isnt going to have sperm in it. Even if it did, the chances of fertalizing an egg with pre-ejaculation is low.

I'm not gonna endorse pulling out, or suggest the if she's on top she won't get pregnant due to that thing called gravity but you were already being double safe, one failed, but you have the apri to fall back on. If for some reason that wasn't working, it's possible she wasn't fertile to begin with, then the low chance that precum fertalized an egg.. to paraphrase what Waltert said.. if you get pregnant with those odds, your kid is a frickin gift from God.


I just read that you went with "plan b" but I've already typed this and I ain't changing it.. so pretend like you havent went for the planb yet.. kthx.

__________________
“It is better to be rich and healthy than poor and sick” - Dave Barry