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tspikes51 · 10-27-2004, 11:22 AM

I was just in the car listening to AM 700 WLW (Cincinnati), an ABC affiliate, and the anchor was saying that ABC news has, in its possession, a video tape that a terrorist faction (I'm not sure if it was Al-Quaida or not) sent to ABC. It was talking about attacking the US again. ABC said that they will hold off on the release of the tape until next week after the election. Has anybody else heard this?

Redlemon · 10-27-2004, 11:27 AM

You are saying that an ABC anchor is saying that ABC has information that ABC isn't going to release? My head hurts.

Redlemon · 10-27-2004, 11:29 AM

OK, just saw it on Instapundit.com:

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THE LATEST FROM "ASSAM THE AMERICAN." Drudge is running his rotating siren effect over this news:

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In the last week before the election, ABCNEWS is holding a videotaped message from a purported al Qaeda terrorist warning of a new attack on America, the DRUDGE REPORT has learned.

The terrorist claims on tape the next attack will dwarf 9/11. "The streets will run with blood," and "America will mourn in silence" because they will be unable to count the number of the dead. Further claims: America has brought this on itself for electing George Bush who has made war on Islam by destroying the Taliban and making war on Al Qaeda. ...

The terrorist's face is concealed by a head dress, and he speaks in an American accent, making it difficult to identify the individual. ... The disturbing tape runs an hour -- the man simply identifies himself as 'Assam the American.'
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Maybe ABC is holding this story because it's a piece of junk that it shouldn't air under any circumstances. I wrote yesterday about the problem of news organizations unethically timing their stories in an attempt to affect the election. There is some reason to speculate that the New York Times and CBS/"60 Minutes" were doing something like that with the al-QaQaa story (though I don't think it's at all clear that they did). I think it's good that bloggers are standing by, monitoring the ethics of MSM. But we bloggers need to be careful not to cry wolf here. Not every withheld story is an outrage. Drudge notes a claim that ABC is holding the tape until Monday night. Does that mean Drudge thinks this tape would help Kerry? As if "Assam the American" would relent if only the nuanced newcomer took office! It seems to me that a more vivid terrorist threat would help Bush.

pan6467 · 10-27-2004, 11:52 AM

Actually there are several ways to look at this. I am sure the FBI and the necessary agencies have seen this tape and are investigating it as we speak. So, why hold the tape back, 3 good reasons I can think of, take your pick.

A) ABC is afraid that with all the problems already regarding voter fraud BOTH parties would claim this tape a scare tactic to keep people from voting.

B) ABC feels in some way by the way the terrorists talk it could influence people's votes and therefore should not be seen until after the election.

C) ABC feels this tape came from unsubstaniated sources and could be a hoax.

My problem with all this is why even announce they have it at all? They are only creating more fear and accusations than the tape probably would. They should not have said anything about it at all.

Willravel · 10-27-2004, 12:03 PM

Was it the Al Qaeda that attacked us? I don't remember the government ever realeasing any evidence. Al Qaeda took responsibility, but so did over 300 other terrorist groups overr the last 3 years.
ABC is either full of shit or the threat is very low. In the case of most terrorist groups, you have a group of people who do not have the recources to pull off an attack of even a fraction of 9/11's size.

Redlemon · 10-27-2004, 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by pan6467

My problem with all this is why even announce they have it at all? They are only creating more fear and accusations than the tape probably would. They should not have said anything about it at all.

From what I see, ABC didn't announce it. Matt Drudge did. And we all know Drudge's standards for accuracy; post first, let others ask questions later.

So, how did Drudge get the information? Possibilities:
1) someone at ABC leaked it
2) someone at the White House leaked it, as an October Surprise. We're about due for one.

Mephisto2 · 10-27-2004, 12:22 PM

There could also be a desire to avoid the Spanish Effect.

Who knows?

I would assume if there WAS a credible threat, then the WhiteHouse would be damn sure to release the info. This could only help the Bush campaign I should imagine.

The again, it seems like I've just contradicted myself!

My head hurts too... Pass me my tin-foil hat.

Mr Mephisto

Schwan · 10-27-2004, 01:15 PM

This is a bit crazy. It might be a hoax. Or... someone might have recorded the tape, so that it would be published on national tv before the elections, thus creating mass panic. Then again, it might have been intentionally witheld, so that people would think that there is something so bad on these tapes and they would panic. Or, or, or... aaaaargh

/drops to floor, foams at mouth

daswig · 10-27-2004, 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by willravel

Al Qaeda took responsibility, but so did over 300 other terrorist groups overr the last 3 years.

That's fine. We should annihilate all members of all groups that claimed responsibility.

If you shout "Death to America", America should reciprocate, and deliver.

guy44 · 10-27-2004, 01:45 PM

Drudge was just trying whip up a controversy. As usual.

From the excellent Talking Points Memo:

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NBC reports out Drudge's 'terror tape' mumbojumbo and adds some helpful debunking details ...

U.S. officials told NBC News that the tape included now-standard militant Islamist rhetoric promising widespread destruction inside the United States. The man cannot be identified, the officials said, because his face is covered by a headdress.

The officials, speaking on condition of anonymity, said ABC gave the CIA a complete copy of the tape Monday. They described analysts’ concern as “low” because it is not clear that the tape was recorded recently and because the man on the tape, who speaks in what appears to be an American accent, mentions no details.

“It’s unclear what this tape is — even whether the person on the tape is an American,” one of the officials said.

I don't trust Drudge any further than I can throw his steaming piles of bullshit.

moosenose · 10-27-2004, 01:52 PM

Whew. It's a good thing that these news organizations are reporting the NEWS...a videotape of somebody with an american accent threatening terrorist acts because Bush is in office CERTAINLY isn't newsworthy. I guess they'll just run more Jessica Simpson stories. Now THAT is NEWS!!!

MSD · 10-27-2004, 02:20 PM

Someone's full of shit, we just need to figure out who it is.

guy44 · 10-27-2004, 02:37 PM

The point is that the tape is one of many that have been recieved. There is no reason why this tape is special compared to other tapes. There is no indication of when it was filmed. There is no specific attack mentioned (despite what Drudge said - he claimed it was talking about an attack on the U.S. bigger than 9/11, which was just a straight lie on Drudge's part), and experts said it was filled with "standard" anti-American rhetoric.

I don't want to downplay a video of a terrorist. It's just that this one really isn't that important, and Drudge is using what is a non-story to try and attack a media organization he falsely believes is liberal.

Also from TPM:

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Is it all going to be about media bias now?

A short time ago Drudge tossed up one of his flashing sirens and soon enough he was pushing the story that ABCNews -- supposedly for political reasons

-- is sitting on a new terror tape warning of an attack that will dwarf the horror of 9/11.

According to Drudge, the CIA is now analyzing the tape for authenticity and there are various other breathless quotes. The tape supposedly emerged in Waziristan over the weekend.

Then we hear the odd detail that the terrorist speaks in an American accent and speculation that it might be "Adam Gadhan - aka Adam Pearlman, a California native", who, if you look at his photo on this mug shot and flyer announcing the Bureau's interest in questioning him, looks like he probably turned to radical Islam after getting turned down for a role in Dazed and Confused or possibly Clerks.

These are difficult waters to wade into, particularly with skepticism, doubt or derision. And who knows what the story is here. But a few questions suggest themselves.

Like, since when do we even hear about 'terror warning tapes' when they don't come from the likes of bin Laden or al Zawahiri?

Questioning this stuff isn't a matter of making light of terrorism. It comes from so many people's frustration about how many ways these jokers have tried to use this stuff to divide this country and manipulate it for narrow political ends.

I half expect that by tomorrow we'll be watching a grainy video of Ken Mehlman, decked out in a phony beard a la Woody Allen in Bananas, bellowing that he and his boss OBL are about to take over America with one mammoth terror attack and institute compulsory gay marriage before forcibly converting everyone to Islam.

I can only hope that we've finally come to point where even the standard pushovers in the mainstream media are getting wise to this song and dance.

daswig · 10-27-2004, 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by guy44

The point is that the tape is one of many that have been recieved. There is no reason why this tape is special compared to other tapes.

How many of the other tapes were in fluent english? How many other tapes were purportedly recorded by an American?

If those two facts alone are true, the tape in imminently newsworthy and should be broadcast.

Mephisto2 · 10-27-2004, 04:23 PM

Sounds like another stupid college student prank.

Remember the last one? Didn't he get jail time?

Mr Mephisto

ShaniFaye · 10-27-2004, 04:37 PM

forgive me if this sounds stupid.....but wouldnt it be more benificial to the terrorists groups NOT to warn us of anything?

daswig · 10-27-2004, 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by ShaniFaye

forgive me if this sounds stupid.....but wouldnt it be more benificial to the terrorists groups NOT to warn us of anything?

The purpose of terrorism is to terrorize. Provided they don't give away operational details, it makes sense. For example: If they say "We're going to do "XYZ" bad thing at "ABC" place using "RST" method on such and such a date", that's pretty stupid. If they just say "we're going to attack you, wait for it", their message is enhanced greatly.

quicksteal · 10-27-2004, 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by willravel

Was it the Al Qaeda that attacked us? I don't remember the government ever realeasing any evidence. Al Qaeda took responsibility, but so did over 300 other terrorist groups overr the last 3 years.
ABC is either full of shit or the threat is very low. In the case of most terrorist groups, you have a group of people who do not have the recources to pull off an attack of even a fraction of 9/11's size.

Do you really doubt that al Qaeda attacked us? I can't pull up an immediate news report, but it's overtly obvious. First, there was bin Laden on video talking about the attacks in intimate detail. There were numerous monetary ties. There were communications between the leaders of al Qaeda, including the order to carry out the attacks.

If ABC has a tape that they're not showing, then hooray for them. Releasing the tape can only lead to confusion, which is exactly what the terrorists want.

daswig · 10-27-2004, 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr Mephisto

Remember the last one? Didn't he get jail time?

I think you're referring to the guy who faked his own beheading. To the best of my knowledge, that hasn't been adjudicated yet. And faking your own death is substantially different than threatening the entire US. For example, one is a terroristic threat, and the other one isn't.

Schwan · 10-27-2004, 10:48 PM

Edit: pointless post

host · 10-28-2004, 03:06 AM

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Originally Posted by quicksteal

Do you really doubt that al Qaeda attacked us? I can't pull up an immediate news report, but it's overtly obvious. First, there was bin Laden on video talking about the attacks in intimate detail. There were numerous monetary ties. There were communications between the leaders of al Qaeda, including the order to carry out the attacks.

If ABC has a tape that they're not showing, then hooray for them. Releasing the tape can only lead to confusion, which is exactly what the terrorists want.

Before you vote, visit some of the links that I have compiled here and then
post what you know to be fact about the 9/11 hijackers. Your government has
done a wonderful job of informing the press on this subject.....

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Her husband said she called him twice on a cell phone from American Airlines Flight 77, which was en route from Washington Dulles International Airport to Los Angeles.
Ted Olson told CNN that his wife said all passengers and flight personnel, including the pilots, were herded to the back of the plane by armed hijackers. The only weapons she mentioned were knives and cardboard cutters. <a href="http://archives.cnn.com/2001/US/09/11/pentagon.olson/index.html">http://archives.cnn.com/2001/US/09/11/pentagon.olson/index.html</a>

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The little white lie was about Barbara Olson, a conservative commentator for CNN and wife of US Solicitor General Ted Olson. Now deceased, Mrs Olson is alleged to have twice called her husband from an American Airlines Flight 77 seat-telephone, before the aircraft slammed into the Pentagon. This unsubstantiated claim, reported by CNN remarkably quickly at 2.06 am EDT [0606 GMT] on September 12, was the solitary foundation on which the spurious “Hijacker” story was built.
Without the “eminent” Barbara Olson and her alleged emotional telephone calls, there would never be any proof that humans played a role in the hijack and destruction of the four aircraft that day. Lookalike claims surfaced several days later on September 16 about passenger Todd Beamer and others, but it is critically important to remember here that the Barbara Olson story was the only one on September 11 and. 12. It was beyond question the artificial “seed” that started the media snowball rolling down the hill. <a href="http://homepage.ntlworld.com/steveseymour/lies911/lies.htm">http://homepage.ntlworld.com/steveseymour/lies911/lies.htm</a>

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09-13-01 CORRECTION
We would like to correct a report that appeared on CNN. Based on information from multiple law enforcement sources, CNN reported that Adnan Bukhari and Ameer Bukhari of Vero Beach Florida, were suspected to be two of the pilots who crashed planes into the World Trade Center. CNN later learned that Adnan Bukhari is still in Florida, where he was questioned by the FBI. We are sorry for the misinformation. A federal law enforcement source now tells CNN that Bukhari passed an FBI polygraph and is not considered a suspect. Through his attorney, Bukhari says that he is helping authorities. Ameer Bukhari died in a small plane crash last year. <a href="http://archives.cnn.com/2001/US/09/13/america.attack/">http://archives.cnn.com/2001/US/09/13/america.attack/</a>

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9-14-01 FBI Names 19 men it suspects of being hijackers.
<a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/1543886.stm">http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/1543886.stm</a>

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9-16-01 Rescue workers sifting through the tons of rubble earlier discovered a passport belonging to one of the suspected hijackers a few blocks from where the World Trade Center's twin towers once stood. <a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/1546927.stm">http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/1546927.stm</a>

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09-18-01 A former Pakistani diplomat has told the BBC that the US was planning military action against Osama Bin Laden and the Taleban even before last week's attacks. <a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/south_asia/1550366.stm">http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/south_asia/1550366.stm</a>

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09-21-01 FBI Director Robert Mueller has acknowledged that some of those behind last week's terror attacks may have stolen the identification of other people, and, according to at least one security expert, it may have been "relatively easy" based on their level of sophistication. <a href="http://archives.cnn.com/2001/US/09/21/inv.id.theft/">http://archives.cnn.com/2001/US/09/21/inv.id.theft/</a>

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09-21-04 Ms Sweeney's account of the hijacking provides unique evidence of what took place but it also appears to conflict with previous information.
The FBI has named five hijackers on board Flight 11, whereas Ms Sweeney spotted only four.
Also, the seat numbers she gave were different from those registered in the hijackers' names. <a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/1556096.stm">http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/1556096.stm</a>

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9-23-01 The identities of four of the 19 suspects accused of having carried out the attacks are now in doubt.<a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/1559151.stm">http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/1559151.stm</a>

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09-27-01 FBI Website displays photos of hijackers, this webpage has not been updated <a href="http://www.fbi.gov/pressrel/penttbom/aa77/77.htm">http://www.fbi.gov/pressrel/penttbom/aa77/77.htm</a>

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10-04-01 This document was lodged in the US District Court of Maine by FBI Agent, James K. Lechner. It details the property found in Mohamed Atta's car and his bags that did not make it onto the flight out of Boston. The property includes his handwritten will in Arabic. The statement also describes a phone call which was made by a flight attendant during the hijack on American Airlines Flight 11. <a href="http://www.abc.net.au/4corners/atta/resources/documents/fbiaffidavit1.htm">http://www.abc.net.au/4corners/atta/resources/documents/fbiaffidavit1.htm</a>

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10-09-2001 Our Friends the Pakistanis
The Pakistani newspaper Dawn reports that Islamabad has replaced the head of its Inter-Services Intelligence agency, Lt. Gen. Mahmud Ahmed, "after the FBI investigators established credible links between him and Umar Sheikh, one of the three militants released in exchange for passengers of the hijacked Indian Airlines plane in 1999."<a href="http://www.opinionjournal.com/best/?id=95001298">http://www.opinionjournal.com/best/?id=95001298</a>

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10-10-01 Top sources confirmed here on Tuesday, that the general lost his job because of the "evidence" India produced to show his links to one of the suicide bombers that wrecked the World Trade Centre. The US authorities sought his removal after confirming the fact that $100,000 were wired to WTC hijacker Mohammed Atta from Pakistan by Ahmad Umar Sheikh at the instance of Gen Mahumd.<a href="http://www.opinionjournal.com/best/?id=95001298">http://www.opinionjournal.com/best/?id=95001298</a>

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Bin Laden did not fund al-Qaeda through a personal fortune - it relied on a fundraising network. <a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/3812351.stm">http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/3812351.stm</a>

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FINANCING.....
To date, we have not been able to determine the origin of the money used for the 9/11 attacks. <a href="http://www.9-11commission.gov/report/911Report_Exec.htm">http://www.9-11commission.gov/report/911Report_Exec.htm</a>

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02-23-2002 The four devices - and all the clues they would hold - have failed to turn up in the 1.25 million tons of steel, concrete and other material taken from ground zero.

“It's extremely rare that we don't get the recorders back. I can't recall another domestic case in which we did not recover the recorders,” said Ted Lopatkiewicz, spokesman for the National Transportation Safety Board. <a href="http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2002/02/25/attack/main501989.shtml">http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2002/02/25/attack/main501989.shtml</a>

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04-19-02 FBI Director Mueller said, "The hijackers also left no paper trail. In our investigation, we have not uncovered a single piece of paper – either here in the U.S. or in the treasure trove of information that has turned up in Afghanistan and elsewhere – that mentioned any aspect of the September 11th plot" <a href="http://www.fbi.gov/pressrel/speeches/speech041902.htm">http://www.fbi.gov/pressrel/speeches/speech041902.htm</a>

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08-17-02 In New York, where the monumental task of identifying the remains of 2,823 victims believed to be dead continues, no remains have been linked to the 10 hijackers who crashed two airliners into the World Trade Center. <a href="http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2002/08/17/attack/main519033.shtml">http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2002/08/17/attack/main519033.shtml</a>

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08-22-02 WASHINGTON (AP) — In what the government describes as a bizarre coincidence, one U.S. intelligence agency was planning an exercise last Sept. 11 in which an errant aircraft would crash into one of its buildings. But the cause wasn't terrorism — it was to be a simulated accident.<a href="http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2002-08-22-sept-11-plane-drill-_x.htm">http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2002-08-22-sept-11-plane-drill-_x.htm</a>

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11-30-01 Forensic feat IDs nearly all Pentagon victims
<a href="http://www.dcmilitary.com/army/stripe/6_48/national_news/12279-1.html">http://www.dcmilitary.com/army/stripe/6_48/national_news/12279-1.html</a>

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11-21-01 The remains of the five hijackers have been identified through a process of exclusion, as they did not match DNA samples contributed by family members of all 183 victims who died at the site.
The hijackers' remains will be turned over to the FBI and held as evidence, FBI spokesman Chris Murray said. After the investigation is concluded, the State Department will decide what is to be done with the remains. <a href="http://www.arlingtoncemetery.net/pentagon-unidentified.htm">http://www.arlingtoncemetery.net/pentagon-unidentified.htm</a>

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No Arabs on Flight 77: Part II -The Passengers <a href="http://www.sierratimes.com/03/07/07/article_tro_flight77.htm">By Thomas R Olmsted, M.D.</a>"

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05-31-2002 When remains of the Waco dead or 9/11 Pentagon victims or Desert Storm casualties -- or most recently Chandra Levy -- need to be studied, the bone guys at the Smithsonian are called in. The bone guys read skeletons like intricate topological maps. Sometimes they make identification from a skull fragment the size of a quarter. <a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn?pagename=article&node=&contentId=A36421-2002May30">http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn?pagename=article&node=&contentId=A36421-2002May30</a>

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THE PENTAGON American Airlines Flight 77 People Aboard: 64
(Dulles to Los Angeles)Hani Hanjour.. His name was not on the American Airlines manifest for the flight because he may not have had a ticket. <a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/nation/graphics/attack/hijackers.html">http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/nation/graphics/attack/hijackers.html</a>

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What You Think You Know About Sept. 11 …
… but don't. By David Plotz
Posted Wednesday, Sept. 10, 2003, at 8:42 AM PT
<a href="http://slate.msn.com/id/2088092">http://slate.msn.com/id/2088092</a>

D Rice · 10-29-2004, 09:11 AM

Is the terrorist either an American or European? The bastard speaks preety good english.

10-27-2004, 11:22 AM	#1 (permalink)
tspikes51 Fuckin' A Location: Lex Vegas	ABC News withholding a tape threatening another attack. I was just in the car listening to AM 700 WLW (Cincinnati), an ABC affiliate, and the anchor was saying that ABC news has, in its possession, a video tape that a terrorist faction (I'm not sure if it was Al-Quaida or not) sent to ABC. It was talking about attacking the US again. ABC said that they will hold off on the release of the tape until next week after the election. Has anybody else heard this? __________________ "I'm telling you, we need to get rid of a few people or a million." -Maddox

10-27-2004, 11:52 AM	#4 (permalink)
pan6467 Lennonite Priest Location: Mansfield, Ohio USA	Actually there are several ways to look at this. I am sure the FBI and the necessary agencies have seen this tape and are investigating it as we speak. So, why hold the tape back, 3 good reasons I can think of, take your pick. A) ABC is afraid that with all the problems already regarding voter fraud BOTH parties would claim this tape a scare tactic to keep people from voting. B) ABC feels in some way by the way the terrorists talk it could influence people's votes and therefore should not be seen until after the election. C) ABC feels this tape came from unsubstaniated sources and could be a hoax. My problem with all this is why even announce they have it at all? They are only creating more fear and accusations than the tape probably would. They should not have said anything about it at all. __________________ I just love people who use the excuse "I use/do this because I LOVE the feeling/joy/happiness it brings me" and expect you to be ok with that as you watch them destroy their life blindly following. My response is, "I like to put forks in an eletrical socket, just LOVE that feeling, can't ever get enough of it, so will you let me put this copper fork in that electric socket?"

10-27-2004, 04:37 PM	#16 (permalink)
ShaniFaye Submit to me, you know you want to Location: Lilburn, Ga	forgive me if this sounds stupid.....but wouldnt it be more benificial to the terrorists groups NOT to warn us of anything? __________________ *I want the diabetic plan that comes with rollover carbs. I dont like the unused one expiring at midnite!!*

10-27-2004, 10:48 PM	#20 (permalink)
Schwan A boy and his dog Location: EU!	Edit: pointless post Last edited by Schwan; 10-27-2004 at 10:57 PM..

10-27-2004, 11:27 AM	#2 (permalink)
Redlemon Devoted Donor Location: New England	You are saying that an ABC anchor is saying that ABC has information that ABC isn't going to release? My head hurts.

10-27-2004, 12:03 PM	#5 (permalink)
Willravel ... a sort of licensed troubleshooter.	Was it the Al Qaeda that attacked us? I don't remember the government ever realeasing any evidence. Al Qaeda took responsibility, but so did over 300 other terrorist groups overr the last 3 years. ABC is either full of shit or the threat is very low. In the case of most terrorist groups, you have a group of people who do not have the recources to pull off an attack of even a fraction of 9/11's size.

10-27-2004, 12:22 PM	#7 (permalink)
Mephisto2 Junkie	There could also be a desire to avoid the Spanish Effect. Who knows? I would assume if there WAS a credible threat, then the WhiteHouse would be damn sure to release the info. This could only help the Bush campaign I should imagine. The again, it seems like I've just contradicted myself! My head hurts too... Pass me my tin-foil hat. Mr Mephisto

10-27-2004, 01:15 PM	#8 (permalink)
Schwan A boy and his dog Location: EU!	This is a bit crazy. It might be a hoax. Or... someone might have recorded the tape, so that it would be published on national tv before the elections, thus creating mass panic. Then again, it might have been intentionally witheld, so that people would think that there is something so bad on these tapes and they would panic. Or, or, or... aaaaargh /drops to floor, foams at mouth

10-27-2004, 01:52 PM	#11 (permalink)
moosenose Banned	Whew. It's a good thing that these news organizations are reporting the NEWS...a videotape of somebody with an american accent threatening terrorist acts because Bush is in office CERTAINLY isn't newsworthy. I guess they'll just run more Jessica Simpson stories. Now THAT is NEWS!!!

10-27-2004, 02:20 PM	#12 (permalink)
MSD The sky calls to us ... Super Moderator Location: CT	Someone's full of shit, we just need to figure out who it is.

10-27-2004, 04:23 PM	#15 (permalink)
Mephisto2 Junkie	Sounds like another stupid college student prank. Remember the last one? Didn't he get jail time? Mr Mephisto

10-29-2004, 09:11 AM	#22 (permalink)
D Rice Tilted	Is the terrorist either an American or European? The bastard speaks preety good english.