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"no amount of force can control a free man, a man whose mind is free. No, not the rack, not fission bombs, not anything. You cannot conquer a free man; the most you can do is kill him." Last edited by dksuddeth; 11-06-2007 at 12:32 PM.. Reason: Automerged Doublepost |
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11-06-2007, 12:33 PM | #282 (permalink) |
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Ron Paul believes in Bigfoot and thinks the Civil War should not have been fought. He also likes new Coke and thinks Godfather III was pretty good. So his judgment’s in question.
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11-06-2007, 03:26 PM | #286 (permalink) | |
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Again, why is it so damn hard to read what was written, the plain word, and NOT have to 'interpret' what the hell the words 'really' mean?
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11-06-2007, 04:43 PM | #288 (permalink) | |
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Furthermore, your 'plain word' approach to Constitutional law completely overlooks the concepts of judicial review and stare decisis. You're the one who brought up Marbury v. Madison which set forth that, "[i]t is emphatically the province and duty of the judicial department to say what the law is. Those who apply the rule to particular cases, must of necessity expound and interpret that rule. If two laws conflict with each other, the courts must decide on the operation of each.". Even if you want to argue the Marbury was wrongly decided (and you may have a point), that is irrelevant in the face of over 200 years case law built off of this premise. Moreover, the decision has never been countered by Congress in the last two centuries either. Though the Constitution is silent in this regard, it is silent in many regards so either a) we look to intent and by looking to the Federalist Papers we can see the desire for judicial review or b) we 'plain word' it and there is no Constitutional right, but instead the right was taken by the Court and Congress has tacitly made it law by allowing it. Either way it is and has been since Marbury and thus the Court's job is literally to interpret the Constitution. Finally, on a purely pragmatic note, as others have pointed out we don't live in 1772. In fact, we are not even the same government we were then. We live in an executive centric system, have a national economy based upon IT and services, and we serve as the hegemon in a geopolitical 'sea of anarchy'. None of these realities were desired or even intended by the founders. However, our ancestors chose to take this country in a different direction and we cannot 'unring the bell'. This system of judicial power is completely ingrained into our government. You can't realistically extricate it without upheaving our entire government.
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11-06-2007, 06:43 PM | #290 (permalink) | |
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Give this article a gander: http://www.rutherford.org/articles_d...?record_id=363 |
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11-07-2007, 04:14 PM | #295 (permalink) |
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I must say this about Ron Paul fans...they are COMMITTED. If you like Ron Paul, you don't just like him, you worship at the altar of Paul.
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11-14-2007, 11:00 AM | #297 (permalink) |
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There is a surprising development in Iowa, where the presidential caucuses are just over 6 weeks away.
From two new polls yesterday. Mike Huckabee with virtually no money has surged into second place with 19-21% of likely caucus goers (surprise!) No surprise here: Ron Paul mired in 5th or 6th with 4-5% of likely caucus goers (well maybe a small surprise that he is tied with McCain in one poll) Stratetic Vision Poll CBS/NY Times Poll
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