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darens42 · 09-23-2005, 10:02 PM

I just heard of this today - apparently this guy has left his job as a TV weather man to pursue fulltime his belief that Katrina (& possibly Rita) are man-made events (or more likely man-influenced weapons)...

i would be interested in your opinions of this site...

daren

http://www.weatherwars.info/index.html

crxforum · 09-23-2005, 11:46 PM

Its very possible. Probable? Not likely. There have been many tests and experiments regarding weather manipulation. Some were successful others did nothing. During WWII the British used to fly above the clouds and drop salt into them to cause showers onto enemy territories. Not sure exactly how that worked or what the point of it was, but they did accomplish it.

Albert Einstein worked for many years attempting to create formulas to predict, prevent, and cause certain natual weather events. If youve ever played Command and Conquer Red Alert 2 they go into detail in the storyline of this game about Einstein and his attempt (and in the game successes) in making weather related machinery to affect weather patterns.

In theory this is all possible to create severe storms by playing around with the electromagnetic fields in the atmosphere to create these storms. But then again the amount of energy needed to create a storm like a hurricane is pretty signifigant to the point that it would disrupt any other electronic related device in the area. It would create a 'pinch' effect. If youve ever seen Dark Angel the TV show the result of the world they live in was caused by an electromagnetic pulse (a pinch) and killed all electronic devices in the world. Something similar would occur when attempting to create the force necessary to create a storm of Katrina's or Rita's magnitude.

But if you think about it another way they could use smaller amounts of energy timed perfectly and use a smaller storm like a snowball effect. The smaller storm would be sent on its way across the ocean allowing it to gain in force, like a snowball rolling down a mountain gathering snow along the way untill it reaches the bottom as a huge boulder.

Who really knows though. Its all just theory.

CRX Forum

Martian · 09-24-2005, 02:37 AM

Rain making and hurricanes are different by an order of magnitude.

You drop the right chemical in a cloud and you can cause the vapour to condense, which makes it rain. This is what crxforum noted. But there is no way to artificially create a hurricane. Aside from simply not having the technology to manipulate air currents sufficiently to create any kind of storm, the amount of energy in a hurricane makes the world's most powerful nuclear warheads look like pea shooters. That goes double for storms the size of hurricane Rita or Katrina. The most powerful of these storms create winds in excess of 40 mph and are well over 100 miles across; there's no human method of creating that much energy, it simply can't be done. And given that for a hurricane to start conditions have to be exactly a certain way (matching wind shear, proper temperatures in and above the water and sufficient wind to get the whole thing moving) and it's just not feasible for any human intervention to occur. Or, looked at another way, if we had the power to create these things wouldn't it make sense that we could develop a way to stop them, or at least slow them down?

crxforum, I'm not sure what you mean by a 'pinch', unless you're referring to an elctromagnetic pulse. To my knowledge, that only applies to fission-based warheads, not any sort of energy release.

darens42 · 09-24-2005, 09:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Martian

if we had the power to create these things wouldn't it make sense that we could develop a way to stop them, or at least slow them down?

i think that if you look more closely at his site that you would find that seems to be his point of view...

from what i can tell so far is that he is saying that some other nation (earthbound or not) is controlling this power & that these airplanes flying 'contrail' missions are doing so to as to have a reference point to view / analyze / assess this power...

i have only taken a somewhat quick look at this guy's site - so far to me it seems kinda cool, strange, scary, bizarre, wacky & looney all rolled up together.

is it really enough to quit your regular job for to pursue?

Martian · 09-24-2005, 11:22 PM

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Gradually, we are finding out which weaponized horror of Satanic control freaks these many shiploads of money have gone to pay over decades!

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4.The war on the American people is ongoing. 11-22-63, Vietnam, Afghanistan, Iraq, Yugoslavia and 9-11-1 were merely episodes to break the force of the Republic. Traitors are manipulating the events from behind the screen. Vigilant networks of concerned citizens have watched for the usual "mock drills" as reported recently by Webster G. Tarpley, and have most likely blocked this customary venue for the shadow regime’s orchestrated routine tragedies. The regime is upping the ante by resorting to its secret weapons of stealth and deception in its frantic death fight.

Well, I'm convinced.

Seriously, I shouldn't even have to post this. But I looked at the site and took those two quotes from a seperate site regarding the 'woodpecker grid.' I couldn't take them from the linked site in the OP, but googled the term on the site's advice.

So apparently the Soviets and the KGB are controlling some sort of electromagnetic grid that allows them to create storms and other ecological phenomena at will (including heat waves, cold snaps and even earthquakes and volcanos). That's pretty impressive for a nation that was dissolved more than a decade ago. Doing things that violate the laws of thermodynamics completely and are by the account of any reputable physicist, mathemetician or ecologist physically impossible without any traceable infrastructure due to the nation in control being 'dead' as far as the rest of the world knows, that must take a lot of coffee.

Or maybe it's the same old unsubstantiated claptrap that's all over the net. Going through his website the only outside reference I found was to a similar site making the same claims, but that had no other outside references themselves. I've said it before and I'll say it again - extraordinary claims beg extraordinary proof and he has not a shred of evidence to back up what he's saying. Some interesting looking clouds don't cut it (I couldn't pick out the so-called 'square' and 'diamond' formations even after reading where they were in the photographs), you'd need hard physical evidence and all the vehemence in the world won't change it.

The sad part is, I've no doubt that he thinks it's completely worth quitting his job over and fully believes that the red army really is controlling the skies. Despite not a shred of evidence to support it (and a fair bit that contradicts it, for that matter) he's very likely to defend it to the death if my prior experience with people like this is anything to go by.

Ganggreen · 09-26-2005, 09:34 PM

a weapon that nobody knows is a weapon is the perfect weapon.

Lwang9276 · 10-10-2005, 09:46 PM

true words, but yea I believe its unlikely that such a weapon could exist, I mean there are too many variables that need to be taken account for, and would they risk causing a ripple effect that would hurt the world just to blow down a village? (maybe they would but I was just thinking about that movie "The Core" lol)

Ganggreen · 10-11-2005, 09:24 PM

just saw this covered on CNN tonight, talked about the reporter and everything. said that a poll of american scientists said in 1986 that the technology is there to do it. they had a general on who denied it, but the reporter that quit said it was japanese mafia using old soviet technology. also coincidentally, the U.S. military facility that would do such a program if it did in fact exsist was in mississippi and was completely destroyed by hurricane Katrina.

NoSoup · 10-12-2005, 01:45 PM

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Ivan and Katrina

These are both very Russian sounding names.

This just kinda stuck out in my mind...

Apparently, it's the Russians that are sending these hurricanes at us...

Evidence you say? Well, they both sound Russian...

09-23-2005, 10:02 PM	#1 (permalink)
darens42 Crazy Location: Dallas	Weather Wars I just heard of this today - apparently this guy has left his job as a TV weather man to pursue fulltime his belief that Katrina (& possibly Rita) are man-made events (or more likely man-influenced weapons)... i would be interested in your opinions of this site... daren http://www.weatherwars.info/index.html __________________ I'm not superstitious - it's bad luck to be superstitious

09-24-2005, 02:37 AM	#3 (permalink)
Martian Young Crumudgeon Location: Canada	Rain making and hurricanes are different by an order of magnitude. You drop the right chemical in a cloud and you can cause the vapour to condense, which makes it rain. This is what crxforum noted. But there is no way to artificially create a hurricane. Aside from simply not having the technology to manipulate air currents sufficiently to create any kind of storm, the amount of energy in a hurricane makes the world's most powerful nuclear warheads look like pea shooters. That goes double for storms the size of hurricane Rita or Katrina. The most powerful of these storms create winds in excess of 40 mph and are well over 100 miles across; there's no human method of creating that much energy, it simply can't be done. And given that for a hurricane to start conditions have to be exactly a certain way (matching wind shear, proper temperatures in and above the water and sufficient wind to get the whole thing moving) and it's just not feasible for any human intervention to occur. Or, looked at another way, if we had the power to create these things wouldn't it make sense that we could develop a way to stop them, or at least slow them down? crxforum, I'm not sure what you mean by a 'pinch', unless you're referring to an elctromagnetic pulse. To my knowledge, that only applies to fission-based warheads, not any sort of energy release. __________________ I wake up in the morning more tired than before I slept I get through cryin' and I'm sadder than before I wept I get through thinkin' now, and the thoughts have left my head I get through speakin' and I can't remember, not a word that I said - Ben Harper, Show Me A Little Shame

09-23-2005, 11:46 PM	#2 (permalink)
crxforum Crazy	Its very possible. Probable? Not likely. There have been many tests and experiments regarding weather manipulation. Some were successful others did nothing. During WWII the British used to fly above the clouds and drop salt into them to cause showers onto enemy territories. Not sure exactly how that worked or what the point of it was, but they did accomplish it. Albert Einstein worked for many years attempting to create formulas to predict, prevent, and cause certain natual weather events. If youve ever played Command and Conquer Red Alert 2 they go into detail in the storyline of this game about Einstein and his attempt (and in the game successes) in making weather related machinery to affect weather patterns. In theory this is all possible to create severe storms by playing around with the electromagnetic fields in the atmosphere to create these storms. But then again the amount of energy needed to create a storm like a hurricane is pretty signifigant to the point that it would disrupt any other electronic related device in the area. It would create a 'pinch' effect. If youve ever seen Dark Angel the TV show the result of the world they live in was caused by an electromagnetic pulse (a pinch) and killed all electronic devices in the world. Something similar would occur when attempting to create the force necessary to create a storm of Katrina's or Rita's magnitude. But if you think about it another way they could use smaller amounts of energy timed perfectly and use a smaller storm like a snowball effect. The smaller storm would be sent on its way across the ocean allowing it to gain in force, like a snowball rolling down a mountain gathering snow along the way untill it reaches the bottom as a huge boulder. Who really knows though. Its all just theory. CRX Forum

09-26-2005, 09:34 PM	#6 (permalink)
Ganggreen Tilted	a weapon that nobody knows is a weapon is the perfect weapon.

10-10-2005, 09:46 PM	#7 (permalink)
Lwang9276 Crazy	true words, but yea I believe its unlikely that such a weapon could exist, I mean there are too many variables that need to be taken account for, and would they risk causing a ripple effect that would hurt the world just to blow down a village? (maybe they would but I was just thinking about that movie "The Core" lol)

10-11-2005, 09:24 PM	#8 (permalink)
Ganggreen Tilted	just saw this covered on CNN tonight, talked about the reporter and everything. said that a poll of american scientists said in 1986 that the technology is there to do it. they had a general on who denied it, but the reporter that quit said it was japanese mafia using old soviet technology. also coincidentally, the U.S. military facility that would do such a program if it did in fact exsist was in mississippi and was completely destroyed by hurricane Katrina.