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Kewpie Dan · 07-01-2007, 09:08 AM

i have recently messed up my rotator cuff and i'm going to see a specialist soon.

that said, anyone who's wrestled and had a cuff injury, what was your heal time? a month, 2, 3?

now i'm not gonna get a clear picture until i see the doctor but to give you an idea when i flip my palm over i can only bring my arm up to 40 degrees before i feel pain.

until i can wrestle again i plan to run and bike and do muay thai with no punching at all with my right arm (the messed up one). bleck, i just want to wrestle...

Bear Cub · 07-01-2007, 02:12 PM

You SURE its a rotator cuff injury? Plenty of other things that mimic it, like a labral tear. If you've got a tear and need surgical repair, wrestling is out of the picture for the immediate future.

Kewpie Dan · 07-01-2007, 09:48 PM

yeah, could be a tear too. i described my symptoms to a friend and he said i might have torn a muscle in my shoulder, something with "super" in its name.

what i'm looking for is maybe a someone who's had a similar injury and how long it took them to heal.

Redlemon · 07-02-2007, 08:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Kewpie Dan

...he said i might have torn a muscle in my shoulder, something with "super" in its name..

Supraspinatus (Wikipedia). It's one of the 4 muscles that make up the rotator cuff, and the one that is most often injured. The only action it has is to abduct your arm at the shoulder joint. So, if you raise your arm starting at by-your-side and going to straight out to the side, that will likely hurt, but the same movement passively (someone moving it without your muscles assisting) will likely be pain-free. Also, it's only dominant in the first 10-15 degrees of motion from your side; the deltoid will take over after that.

Whatever it is, yeah, see the specialist. It'll depend on how badly it is torn as to how long it'll take.

Kewpie Dan · 07-02-2007, 11:19 PM

thank you red lemon, i'm seeing the specialist tomorrow or thursday.

hopefully they'll just tell me i'm so awesome that my shoulder couldn't take it so i just need to rachet it down a notch.

i can deal with that

Bear Cub · 07-03-2007, 06:34 AM

My torn labrum is what's keeping me from having the surgery. I just can't take the time out of school/work to recover from it. I was told that it would be 6-8 MONTHS before returning to everyday status, as I would have to retrain many muscle groups, and my arm would be in a sling for months right out of the gate. I'm unsure how common this is, but I've had 3 opinions all tell me the same thing. I have very limited range of motion, and I deal with it, but leaving it alone has caused a multitude of back problems. Basically, all the muscle groups are compensating for one another at this point, and are constantly overworked.

Kewpie Dan · 07-03-2007, 08:28 AM

CW sorry to hear about that man. hopefully you heal up soon.

Plan9 · 07-03-2007, 05:37 PM

That sucks, bro. I've torn up some cartilage doing these MMA classes. Turns out? It takes forever to heal while you're waiting to train.

Luciian · 07-03-2007, 06:00 PM

I blew out my rotator cuff first year in college tennis. I didn't need surgury but I was out for...about 10 weeks if I recall correctly.

Kewpie Dan · 07-05-2007, 02:48 PM

went to the doctor. it's an inflamation of the tendon most likely.

just a month of physio and then we'll see...

Nimetic · 07-07-2007, 03:50 PM

Good move. I've injured my shoulder a few times. Who knows exactly what - but it's touchy. The physios can normally get it back ok... but there're good physios and bad ones.. judge carefully.

(But their prescription can also be paradoxical which often doesn't help).

The way I see it is this...

1) If you have surgery, you'll need physio anyway.

2) If you have physio you might or might not improve - but you can always
get surgery later if needs be

3) The sports docs are very casual about surgery. Get a second opinion before
rushing into anything.

And finally, remember that a month or two off training is not the end of the world. Though it sometimes seems that way.

Kewpie Dan · 07-08-2007, 10:19 PM

thanks nim, it behooves me to not be breaking arms and dropping people on their heads but i will take the time off.

shoulder injuries are the worst! at least i can still wipe my ass...

Nimetic · 07-15-2007, 01:12 AM

No probs. Feel free to msg me on how it goes. It's hard to take a rest, I know.

07-01-2007, 09:08 AM	#1 (permalink)
Kewpie Dan powered by the souls of dead warriors Location: In the rain, dying	Calling all wrestlers/jiu-jitsu people... i have recently messed up my rotator cuff and i'm going to see a specialist soon. that said, anyone who's wrestled and had a cuff injury, what was your heal time? a month, 2, 3? now i'm not gonna get a clear picture until i see the doctor but to give you an idea when i flip my palm over i can only bring my arm up to 40 degrees before i feel pain. until i can wrestle again i plan to run and bike and do muay thai with no punching at all with my right arm (the messed up one). bleck, i just want to wrestle... __________________ I'm so awesome I made your mom cry!

07-01-2007, 09:48 PM	#3 (permalink)
Kewpie Dan powered by the souls of dead warriors Location: In the rain, dying	yeah, could be a tear too. i described my symptoms to a friend and he said i might have torn a muscle in my shoulder, something with "super" in its name. what i'm looking for is maybe a someone who's had a similar injury and how long it took them to heal. __________________ I'm so awesome I made your mom cry!

07-02-2007, 11:19 PM	#5 (permalink)
Kewpie Dan powered by the souls of dead warriors Location: In the rain, dying	thank you red lemon, i'm seeing the specialist tomorrow or thursday. hopefully they'll just tell me i'm so awesome that my shoulder couldn't take it so i just need to rachet it down a notch. i can deal with that __________________ I'm so awesome I made your mom cry!

07-03-2007, 08:28 AM	#7 (permalink)
Kewpie Dan powered by the souls of dead warriors Location: In the rain, dying	CW sorry to hear about that man. hopefully you heal up soon. __________________ I'm so awesome I made your mom cry!

07-03-2007, 05:37 PM	#8 (permalink)
Plan9 I Confess a Shiver	That sucks, bro. I've torn up some cartilage doing these MMA classes. Turns out? It takes forever to heal while you're waiting to train. __________________ *Whatever you can carry.* "You should not drink... and bake."

07-01-2007, 02:12 PM	#2 (permalink)
Bear Cub The Reverend Side Boob Location: Nofe Curolina	You SURE its a rotator cuff injury? Plenty of other things that mimic it, like a labral tear. If you've got a tear and need surgical repair, wrestling is out of the picture for the immediate future.

07-03-2007, 06:34 AM	#6 (permalink)
Bear Cub The Reverend Side Boob Location: Nofe Curolina	My torn labrum is what's keeping me from having the surgery. I just can't take the time out of school/work to recover from it. I was told that it would be 6-8 MONTHS before returning to everyday status, as I would have to retrain many muscle groups, and my arm would be in a sling for months right out of the gate. I'm unsure how common this is, but I've had 3 opinions all tell me the same thing. I have very limited range of motion, and I deal with it, but leaving it alone has caused a multitude of back problems. Basically, all the muscle groups are compensating for one another at this point, and are constantly overworked.

07-03-2007, 06:00 PM	#9 (permalink)
Luciian Upright Location: south florida	I blew out my rotator cuff first year in college tennis. I didn't need surgury but I was out for...about 10 weeks if I recall correctly. __________________ i am ninja "Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind dont matter, and those who matter dont mind." -Dr Seuss

07-05-2007, 02:48 PM	#10 (permalink)
Kewpie Dan powered by the souls of dead warriors Location: In the rain, dying	went to the doctor. it's an inflamation of the tendon most likely. just a month of physio and then we'll see... __________________ I'm so awesome I made your mom cry!

07-07-2007, 03:50 PM	#11 (permalink)
Nimetic Junkie Location: Melbourne, Australia	Good move. I've injured my shoulder a few times. Who knows exactly what - but it's touchy. The physios can normally get it back ok... but there're good physios and bad ones.. judge carefully. (But their prescription can also be paradoxical which often doesn't help). The way I see it is this... 1) If you have surgery, you'll need physio anyway. 2) If you have physio you might or might not improve - but you can always get surgery later if needs be 3) The sports docs are very casual about surgery. Get a second opinion before rushing into anything. And finally, remember that a month or two off training is not the end of the world. Though it sometimes seems that way.

07-08-2007, 10:19 PM	#12 (permalink)
Kewpie Dan powered by the souls of dead warriors Location: In the rain, dying	thanks nim, it behooves me to not be breaking arms and dropping people on their heads but i will take the time off. shoulder injuries are the worst! at least i can still wipe my ass... __________________ I'm so awesome I made your mom cry!

07-15-2007, 01:12 AM	#13 (permalink)
Nimetic Junkie Location: Melbourne, Australia	No probs. Feel free to msg me on how it goes. It's hard to take a rest, I know.