Road cycling for pleasure.. seeking feedback/advice. - Tilted Forum Project Discussion Community

Jimellow · 07-19-2006, 10:49 AM

I am distantly considering getting into road cycling..

While hiking, I often see people cycling on the roads in and around the parks, and it might be something that interests me. I used to have a mountain bike as a kid and would ride often with friends; not in a mountain environment, but instead around the city, etc.

I also see mountain bikers on the trails I am hiking, but of the two types of cycling, I am drawn more to road riding.

At this point, I suspect I am generally just seeking feedback in general regarding road cycling.. I tend to be a bit streaky in my physical interests.. I used to rollerblade daily, then shifted to running, outside and on a treadmill. Prior to all that I used to swim, and was on the swim team during the summer in my high school years. Lately, I've been hiking and enjoying it immensely.

Road cycling tends to be an activity that requires more of an investment financially, and thus I'd really like to think this through before "wasting" money on a bike, etc.

Also, one concern of mine is that I am a pretty tall (6' 2" ish) and thin fellow, and I am not sure if my body type is the best suited for leaning over handlebars for extended periods of time.. I am not concerned about leg strength, as that is where the majority of my muscle is, but my height makes me wonder if cycling might be hard on my back, etc.

If anyone has experience road cycling, on any level, I'd really appreciate any and all comments you are willing to share. I tend to favor physical activity outdoors, and generally my legs end up doing the brunt of the work. Cycling wouldn't be an exception here, and thus I suspect that is also why I may be drawn to it.

Lastly, at this point I don't really want to get into the specifics of bike recommendations, etc, but I would be curious if you could provide a ballpark price range for one interested in getting into road cycling at an entry level. I wouldn't need top of the line gear (obviously), but I'd also look to invest in quality gear.. I gather cycling can be quite a pricey investment, and certainly one of the most expensive I've considered pursuing, outside of buying a car.

Thanks.

thingstodo · 07-19-2006, 11:24 AM

This is right up my alley as I went through the same thing a few years back. Here's my experience:

I'd been wanting to get a bike for some time. My wife and I do a lot together so I also wanted to get her interested. My son had a Raleigh bike a few years before and I really liked how solid and dependable it was. We went to a decent bike store and ended up purchasing two Raleigh bikes for about $400 each. They were a little more because we got aluminum which was a little lighter. These were kind of mountain bikes but were a hybrid with smooth tires and 18 speeds.

As time went on and the distance increased we added bike computers which give you the speed and distance, along with average speed, etc. These in a wireless form are about $40-50. That was when we hit rides of 15 miles or so. Gloves became a require item by that point as well due to sweaty hands.

Next we added clipless (SPD type) pedals, so we had to purchase the pedals and shoes, together for one person maybe $100 or so. They really help your efficiency. We also got better seats as those gell seats are terrible and really numb you in bad places. Believe it or not, a hard, skinny seat feels much better and they fit your "sit" bones. The seats for mountain bikes are a little different than road bikes.

About that time we began to learn about the right clothes. We already had moved to bike shorts. We discovered wicking fabric (name brand Cool Max, for example) and started using that for shirts and socks. It makes a huge difference and all my workout clothing is that sort of thing.

The distances got longer and we started to learn about nutrition. When you ride an hour or less water is fine. When you move over that and depending on how hard you ride, you get into electrolyte replacement drinks, and I don't mean Gatoraide. That's OK in the beginning but there are other drinks that are much better. I personally like Accelerade. You'll also need to think about gel packs for fuel. We were riding these things about two hours for 30 miles so you need the fuel every 45 minutes or so riding that long.

After riding for a little over a year and getting our doors blown off by road bike groups, we began to research road bikes. We also had a good relationship with the bike store owner so he was very helpful and not just a salesman. Six months later we purchased Klein road bikes. We switched to Look pedals for these bikes. The bikes were about $1700 and add on pedals and shoes. I think the bill with everything was about $4300 at that point, shoes, pedals and bikes. Road bike pedals are a little more expensive but well worth it. We were able to use the same computer. The weight of the bike went from nearly 30 lbs to right at 18 lbs. We felt like we had bicycle sports cars it was so different!

Now we were able to join up with riding groups and that added a lot because it wasn't just the two of us riding. Groups are fun because you can go really fast drafting with the other riders, taking your place at the front when it's your turn.

So that was our progression over two years or so. We invested a little in the beginning but made the larger investment later when we were really into it and made other inprovements and investments along the way. And one thing that helped was a subscription to a few bike magazines. There is a great deal to learn about taking care of your bike, equipment, nutrition, etc., and the bike books cover it all pretty much over the course of a year. It really depends on how serious you get. If you get hooked like we did you'll have a great activity you can spend money on that is also healthy!

P.S. ALWAYS wear a helmut. Even if you are riding 2 miles down the road. You just never know. My wife got her back tire touched by a car slowing down at a traffic light. She was only going about 10 mph but it made her flip over the handle bars. Her helmu had a crack but her head was fine! Even better, the helmut companies give you a big discount on a replacement!

Good luck with your decision and pop back with more questions. I'm no expert but I can share what I experienced and how things evolved for me, as well as what I might have done different along the way. Bike riding is a wonderful activity.

Forgot to mention...I don't think height will have much impact. I'm 6'1" and I've had back toruble previously. Your back won't come into play on a hybrid, other than building up to the workload. If you get a road bike a good bike shop can adjust things to take the strain off your back. You don't need to lay down to ride well!

eribrav · 07-19-2006, 04:51 PM

The story above is a very typical one for serious road cyclists.

In addressing your situation specifically I would add that you really need a bike shop that has experience doing fittings. You absolutely can get a comfortable fit on a road bike, but you need to have someone who knows what they're doing fit you. Your body habitus should not be an impediment.

Having said that, I wouldn't flip out too much over the fit of your first bike. Ideally, you could go pay for a fit, then look for a high quality used bike that's close to that fit. Bicycle enthusiasts are total equipment whores, often buying and then selling perfectly good bikes because they just like trying out the latest and greatest, and then moving on. You will get great bikes at 50% minimum discount if you do your homework. Places to look include the message board at the serotta forum, and road bike review dot com.

I'd ride that first bike for a year or so. If you do get into it you will find that your favored position, and your fit, will evolve over that year. Once that's happened, sell the first bike and go get something new (or even custom depending on budget) and go for the ideal fit. If you don't end up getting hooked on cycling, well then it's no big loss and you move on.

Have fun! Let us know how it turns out.

Jimellow · 07-22-2006, 09:44 PM

Great replies!

Unfortunately, my interest is dwindling, and I have to get a steadier bead on my long term desires before I pursue going out and purchasing a bike, etc.

I really appreciate the replies, and certainly welcome any more that may follow while I think about my future regarding this issue.

thingstodo · 07-23-2006, 04:23 AM

I'll tell you this much...it never hurts to own a bike. I didn't get into how easy it is to purchase a used bike for a low price. If nothing else you can get a little exercise and who knows.

I certainly never expected to get into riding and would have told you at the time that it was just for fun. I had other long-term "wants." Just remember: you're not making a life time commitment.

There are a few things in life that really let your body go free. Diving and snorkeling are two of those things for me, along with riding. Sky diving and hang gliding aren't for me, but I'm sure other people see those activities like that. There's nothing like the freedom of coasting down a long hill!

Find something fun that is right for you and try a lot of things along the way!

Rodney · 07-23-2006, 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by thingstodo

I'll tell you this much...it never hurts to own a bike. I didn't get into how easy it is to purchase a used bike for a low price. If nothing else you can get a little exercise and who knows.

Second that. Instead of going full-bore, just get yourself a new or used hybrid -- something that's good for streets and dirt roads, _and_ has handlebars that allow you to ride upright. And just get out on the bike from time to time instead of the car. I enjoy riding bikes in urban areas -- they're the best way to explore, because you have almost the speed of a car and almost the flexibility of a pedestrian: you can got slowly or quickly, stop as you please and stow the bike relatively easily, and so on.

I used to commute to work by bike in a major city, and although I always took the same route, there was always something different to see; I arrived at work warmed-up, awake, and in good spirits.

ozahs · 08-17-2006, 10:54 AM

thingstodo just about says it all, great post.

Last year my brother talked me into a MS society sponsored weeklong ride. It was about 300 miles over 5 days. I started training by riding into work a couple times a week, about 14 miles each way. We have a gym so I can take a shower before working. The limiting factor for me at first was the saddle soreness, but that is overcome by consisitent weekly riding, and gradually increasing the length of rides.

My bike is an old Peugeot road bike that I purchased in about 1983. Only spent about $200 on it back then. You can purchase something today that weighs about 50 percent less for about $350. It actually rolls real nice, but does not fit me perfectly. Cannot afford to buy a new one.

Cycling is a great low-impact way to increase your cardio fitness. I hope you decide to try it.

thingstodo · 08-20-2006, 07:04 AM

So Jimellow - have you decided to take the plunge yet? Keep us posted. It will be interesting to see if you end up liking riding as much as some of us! It will also be neat t hear about your progression if you do decide to get a bike.

Jimellow · 08-20-2006, 08:04 AM

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Originally Posted by thingstodo

So Jimellow - have you decided to take the plunge yet? Keep us posted. It will be interesting to see if you end up liking riding as much as some of us! It will also be neat t hear about your progression if you do decide to get a bike.

I haven't yet.. My interest has dwindled a bit, and I tend to be very streaky in terms of what interests me in a given time period. I also am focusing on saving/investing most of my money currently, so I don't really have a lot to spend on material things.

Cycling is an activity I look forward to in the future, but I think it will be the more distant future, as I am trying to cut back as I approach a potential branching off point in life that will likely involve relocation.

This thread certainly serves as a good resource and I will definitely continue to check it out when I do try it out.

Jimellow · 07-18-2007, 07:15 AM

I am going to bump this, as I recently took brought my dad's Motobecane road bike out of the basement and had it inspected and made ride ready at a local bike shop.

I had it out yesterday and rode for about three hours, probably covering 15-20 miles.

I really enjoy riding, and in my experience I don't really become tired while riding until I stop; at which point I feel it in my legs. I'm in good shape and am a physically active person, and I had a lot of fun driving around the area.

Unfortuntaely, the bike I'm currently using is older (20-30 years), and the back tire constantly starts to rub abainst the frame. Yesterday I was able to set it in a way that it stayed in place and didn't cause an issue, but when I went out today, as soon as I started riding it would shift and start rubbing against the frame again.

I love riding, but the back tire seems to move and rub against the frame after I ride a short distance. I am generally not a fan of using hand me down things, and if this issue isn't resolved quickly and entirely, I will buy a new bike instead of play around with one that was made before I was born.

I love riding and after going out yesterday for three hours, covering quite a few hills and generally having a nice time, I am interested in doing it more, but I suspect this might require me buying a new bike, and that leads to a whole new thought process in regards to the type of bike to buy and how much to spend.

I like road bikes and don't find them uncomfortable. I like the thin tires and the potential to go fast and I much prefer riding the Motobecane over my mountain bike. I also love watching the UCI Pro Tour and related cycling events, but I also am not going to spend thousands of dollars on a bike initially, because I am not interested in racing and am far too frugal to justify spending thousands on anything that is going to give me pleasure. I also find that my interests are too temporary and streaky to justify spending excessive amounts on any one of them. However, I will always be drawn to physical activities, and biking is a nice alternative to running and hiking, so I don't think I will lose interest in it any time soon.

That being said, I would be interested in buying a well built and reliable road bike that will allow me to spend my time enjoying riding and not figuring out what is broken or needs to be addressed before I can go riding again. As a means for perspective, I enjoy riding the Motobecane and would be content riding that for quite some time, but the tire issue has quickly become annoying; earlier today I was intending to ride for three hours or so, only to have the tire start rubbing, and me ultimately end up walking the bike home.

I wanted to bump this thread instead of starting a new one. If anyone has any thoughts or recommendations I would greatly appreciate it. Initially I did not intend to turn this thread into a bike/brand recommendation thread, but if I am going to consider buying a new bike, such information might end up being very worthwhile.

squeeeb · 07-18-2007, 08:48 AM

the MOST important thing about buying a bike is fit. if you are not going to race and just want a bike to ride for pleasure, brand's aren't really important. they are all about the same. the biggest concern is fit. if you get a 3,000 bike that doesn't fit, it's useless. go to a local bicycle shop, tell them you want a road bike for riding a few hours for pleasure, and they will help you. try different brands of bikes in your price range, they will be the same size, but the geometry may be a bit different. keep trying bikes until you get the bike that you are most comfortable on.

do not buy a bike from a place that is not a bike shop. bike shops build the bike correctly, when you buy from them they usually offer 1 year warranty or so, you meet the local bikers in your community, and they will help you when you need it. if you go to a bike shop and they are jerks, go to another one.

as for brands of bikes...trek, specialized, giant, cannondale, all offer decent entry level bikes that will last. todays bottom line bikes were the top of the line bikes 5 years ago. a decent entry level bike will run about US $800. if you go for a $1,000, you will have a bike that will last you the rest of your life, unless you start racing or doing super long tours, and even then it will last at least 10 years. that's $100 a year for fun and health.

good luck, let us know what you do. and keep asking questions if you have them.

roachboy · 07-18-2007, 08:55 AM

is the back wheel rubbing because the wheel is out of true or because the frame is bent?
my motobecane is also about 40. it is a fine machine. i got to it via more or less the same kind of process that you did, riding a hybrid for a few years, gradually finding that what started as advantages became limitations and then getting a road bike. there is fetish value in the ole motobecane, but there are obviously levels of biketechnology that can get you moving about faster and maybe someday i'll work my way up to one of them (i am lusting after fixed gears these days...) but we'll see.

Jimellow · 07-18-2007, 09:11 AM

I've been doing some reading online, and one of the bikes that attracted my interest was the Bianchi Eros. It comes in at about $1k, and is one step above the entry level Brava, but I'm willing to spend a few more bucks if it's going to result in a bike I can use for a longer time and not have to replace in a few years when I might be more suited to riding longer and faster, etc.

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Originally Posted by roachboy

is the back wheel rubbing because the wheel is out of true or because the frame is bent?
my motobecane is also about 40. it is a fine machine. i got to it via more or less the same kind of process that you did, riding a hybrid for a few years, gradually finding that what started as advantages became limitations and then getting a road bike. there is fetish value in the ole motobecane, but there are obviously levels of biketechnology that can get you moving about faster and maybe someday i'll work my way up to one of them (i am lusting after fixed gears these days...) but we'll see.

The wheel is rubbing as a result of it not staying in place. The frame isn't bent to my knowledge, but it instead seems to be a slipping issue. The tires are secured with the easy release clamps, and while I can set the tire and clamp it in a way that is straight, as soon as I start riding, the tire shifts back and starts rubbing against the frame. Yesterday I was able to ride for three hours without it being an issue, but today it was an issue immediately, and one I wasn't able to fix.

The Motobecane is a fine bike. The shift delay on the gears is noticeable, but given that it's an old bike, I don't really have any complaints with it. That being said, I don't want to constantly be addressing different issues that ultimately are going to prevent me from enjoying riding, and instead result in my becoming frustrated with a piece of equipment that may be past its prime.

guyy · 07-18-2007, 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Jimellow

I enjoy riding the Motobecane and would be content riding that for quite some time, but the tire issue has quickly become annoying; earlier today I was intending to ride for three hours or so, only to have the tire start rubbing, and me ultimately end up walking the bike home.

I wanted to bump this thread instead of starting a new one. If anyone has any thoughts or recommendations I would greatly appreciate it. Initially I did not intend to turn this thread into a bike/brand recommendation thread, but if I am going to consider buying a new bike, such information might end up being very worthwhile.

Did you break a spoke? It happens, even with new bikes. Have someone look at it.

Jimellow · 07-18-2007, 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by guyy

Did you break a spoke? It happens, even with new bikes. Have someone look at it.

I'm honestly not sure what it is. I suspect the frame isn't bent and it's a securing issue.

Just recently, my dad and I centered the tire and secured it, but when I took it out on the road, the tire immediately shifted and rubbed the inside (left) of the frame again.

I am actually impressed with how well the bike runs and functions for being thirty or so years old. Aside from new grip tape, and potentially a new seat, I don't think it needs much, aside from this current tire issue. It is by no means in mint condition, as it was ridden by my parents, and is old, but it's a nice bike. I was pretty frustrated with the tire issue earlier and the obvious choice is to say "Screw this old piece of junk, I'm buying a new bike," but after taking a more controlled view of the situation, I've only spent $35 on the bike for a tune-up and new brakes/tubes and if I can fix it for under $100, it seems like a great opportunity to ride without spending a lot.

I'm really not in a rush to buy a new bike, both because I am content with the Motobecane if I can get the tire issue worked out, and also because I tend to resist entering overly expensive hobbies, and biking seems it could quickly become such a hobby if one doesn't practice self control in regards to spending, etc.

Basically I just want to go riding. I am not caught up in having the newest and best gear, but instead really enjoy the sense of speed and physical workout cycling provides. It provides a nice alternative to hiking and running, and I really like how the physical exertion isn't made present until afterwards instead of immediately, as is the case with running.

cj2112 · 07-18-2007, 11:11 AM

It sounds to me like the cones on the hub are loose. This will cause exactly what you are describing. There is a nut right against the hub on both sides of the wheel. If this is too loose it will allow the wheel to move left and right on it's axle, too tight and it adds too much friction to the bearings. I would start there, if that's the problem, it's pretty simple fix.

Jimellow · 07-18-2007, 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by cj2112

It sounds to me like the cones on the hub are loose. This will cause exactly what you are describing. There is a nut right against the hub on both sides of the wheel. If this is too loose it will allow the wheel to move left and right on it's axle, too tight and it adds too much friction to the bearings. I would start there, if that's the problem, it's pretty simple fix.

Thanks for the info. It seems this might be the issue!

The nut is on the wheel itself, correct? Do I need to remove the wheel entirely to be able to see the nut, and do you think I will be able to tighten/loosen it myself, or will that require tools that a bike shop would have?

I've generally been making the quick release clamps very tight, but regardless, the wheel still moves, so I suspect there is something "internally" that is causing the movement to occur. Thus, the nut/hub sounds like a viable cause of the problem.

cj2112 · 07-18-2007, 11:31 AM

the nut is right up against the wheel, not on the bicycle. There is one on each side of the wheel. Depending on the hub, you may be able to tighten them your self, just don't get them too tight.

this graphic may help explain where they are:

there is a locknut on either side of the hub, that is what your looking to check.

snowy · 07-18-2007, 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by squeeeb

the MOST important thing about buying a bike is fit. if you are not going to race and just want a bike to ride for pleasure, brand's aren't really important. they are all about the same. the biggest concern is fit. if you get a 3,000 bike that doesn't fit, it's useless. go to a local bicycle shop, tell them you want a road bike for riding a few hours for pleasure, and they will help you. try different brands of bikes in your price range, they will be the same size, but the geometry may be a bit different. keep trying bikes until you get the bike that you are most comfortable on.

do not buy a bike from a place that is not a bike shop. bike shops build the bike correctly, when you buy from them they usually offer 1 year warranty or so, you meet the local bikers in your community, and they will help you when you need it. if you go to a bike shop and they are jerks, go to another one.

as for brands of bikes...trek, specialized, giant, cannondale, all offer decent entry level bikes that will last. todays bottom line bikes were the top of the line bikes 5 years ago. a decent entry level bike will run about US $800. if you go for a $1,000, you will have a bike that will last you the rest of your life, unless you start racing or doing super long tours, and even then it will last at least 10 years. that's $100 a year for fun and health.

good luck, let us know what you do. and keep asking questions if you have them.

I bought my entry-level Trek hybrid for about $300, and then spent about another $100 getting it kitted out with lights, fenders, rack, lock, and cyclocomputer. Not only is it a cute bike (thank you, Trek, for women's specific design), but it just rides so wonderfully. It is the perfect bike for me, and I use it as my primary mode of transportation.

But I wouldn't know any of these things if I hadn't gone to the bike shop, and talked to the guys there. I had pretty much made up my mind that I wanted a Trek, because my SO has a Trek that he loves (coincidentally, we own the same model bike...mine is the women's version). I'm fairly sure in another couple years I'll buy a better bike, because I love cycling so much. Every week I ride more, and love it more. Plus, because I am a taller woman, bike fit was very important, and the bike shop helped with that as well.

So if your hand-me-down Motobecane doesn't work out (I hope it does, old bikes are awesome)...find a good bike shop where you feel comfortable talking to the guys about your wants/needs in a bike. If it does work out--you're going to want a cyclocomputer. I have a Cateye wireless cyclocomputer and it's great--I can see just how far, how fast, and how long I've been cycling.

I am rapidly becoming a bike nerd.

Jimellow · 07-18-2007, 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by cj2112

the nut is right up against the wheel, not on the bicycle. There is one on each side of the wheel. Depending on the hub, you may be able to tighten them your self, just don't get them too tight.

this graphic may help explain where they are:

there is a locknut on either side of the hub, that is what your looking to check.

I just took the wheel off and tightened what appeared to be the nut(s) as far as they would go, but upon flipping the bike over, and spinning the wheel via air pedalling, the tire hugged the frame again. I also think I altered the arm that the chain runs through as it's now making a clicking sound when I pedal. Thus I am entering back into the "Screw this old piece of junk, I'm buying a new bike stage," haha.

If I do opt for a new bike, I'll certainly go to a bike shop, and specifically one located near a velodrome, as I suspect they would have more knowledge in regards to the type of bike I am looking for than the mom and pop bike shop that is more local for me.

I have a cyclocomputer that I used with my Trek mountain bike, and it's very cool. They seem especially nice for road bikes, as I would have liked to have known how fast I was going downhill yesterday. It felt like 30 MPH but it's a rough estimate.

I'm not giving up on the Motobecane, but I'm not really sure if it's a problem I can solve myself at this point. It seems every time I take part of the bike apart, there is a high risk of me causing some other piece of equipment to go awry or not work properly, so I think I might end up taking it to the bike shop and seeing if they can come up with anything. If there is any further advice in regards to what the issue might be, or if I may not have fixed/tightened to bolts properly, I'd certainly be interested, as I am not entirely sure I did much of anything when I took the wheel off.

thingstodo · 07-19-2007, 08:42 AM

Take it to a bike shop and see what they say. It may just be out of round. They can also work on the spokes. Worst case, you just replace the wheel.

Another great brand with good entry level pricing between $500-1000 is Raleigh. Solid and will last for years. They also have great hybrids - combo road and mountain bikes. You wouldn't take these off the road but they are good for all kinds of road surfaces. The handlebars are like a mountain bike and the tires are also larger but have a smooth tread.

Jimellow · 07-19-2007, 10:36 AM

I took it to the bike shop earlier. Initially he just tightened the quick release clamp and told me to go give it a ride to see if it was fixed. I'd done that about 100 times to date, but humored him anyway. The wheel hugged the frame again, and he said it might need a new clamp. He seems to think it's a clamp issue, and will potentially replace it with a new one. I'm not really sold on the fact that it is a clamp issue, but I'd like to be proven wrong.

In regards to potential bikes.. Raleigh seems to have a solid track record. I am not interested in a hybrid bike, as I love the road bikes and their ability to go fast on the narrow tires. I've ridden a mountain bike for most of my life, and after experiencing a road bike, I find them fantastic. I get a kick out of watching the UCI Pro Tour riders go over cobblestones, and this year's Gent-Wevelgem cobblestone section claimed quite a few riders, with one being thrown directly onto his face.

squeeeb · 07-19-2007, 11:17 AM

you mentioned a bianchi. my main road bike is a bianchi (i also have a surly fixed gear) and i love it. many hundreds of miles later, it is still going strong. and celeste is just a cool color.

thingstodo · 07-21-2007, 02:40 AM

I totally agree with you on the road bike feeling. I have a Klein and it just feels like driving a great sports car. You don't even turn the handlebar, just lean and it turns! And the speed...wow!! I've actually had to slow down going down hill because I got scared! I hit 50 mph once down hill and said that's OK.

Jimellow · 04-03-2009, 10:46 PM

It's getting warmer and friends are talking of going on bike rides. Thus, I am going to bump this thread and see what sort of feedback I can get.

I've heard good things about hybrid bikes, to the point where I'm almost considering one, but if I got a hybrid it would only be because friends want to hit some trail rides. An ideal ride for me involves roads and long distances; not trails and rocky terrain. I prefer hiking over biking if I'm headed into the woods.

Does anyone have a link to price guides and/or bicycle review sites?

The last bike I've been on is still the Motobecane referenced in this thread, and it still frustrates me that I only stopped riding because the bike kept breaking down; and even when I did ride, ride length was determined by how long I could go before the bike stopped working and not my own desire to stop.

I'm a very active person, and it's really goofy to think I haven't purchased a bike since this thread was created in 2006. The prospect of hopping on a bike and riding outside in the beautiful weather is very appealing to me, and I guess my main reason for this post is to see if anything has changed in the years since my original post; whether it be in regards to the most reliable/best models, or the means by which to purchase a bike, or find reviews.

If anyone has any contributions it would be appreciated.

thingstodo · 04-04-2009, 03:15 AM

In my opinion you can't go wrong with a used Klein. With the economy the way it is now would be a good time. Check out Craig's list.

If you plan to ride more than an hour at a time:

You'll also need shoes for clipless pedals, water bottles, wicking material and bike shorts, learn about electrolytes and recovery from longer rides, Cytomax, a helmut (a must) gloves...check out some of the biking magazines because they will really help educate you on everything. A wireless computer (under $100) and a heart rate monitor are also worth it.

pointbock69 · 05-03-2009, 08:07 PM

sounds like you should get into Triathlon, you got two of three behind you already, swim, run - now go buy a nice used road bike for 400-500, that will get you a decent one that you will enjoy, but if you don't stick with it, it isn't the end of the world. Good luck!

Dammitall · 05-16-2009, 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Jimellow

Does anyone have a link to price guides and/or bicycle review sites?

Check out Road Bike Review and/or Mountain Bike Review, depending on whether you want to focus on road bikes or mountain/hybrid bikes.

As for the type of riding you want to be doing, have you considered getting a cyclocross bike? Aside from their racing-dedicated purpose, they are (in my opinion) suitable for longer duration road rides with the feel of riding a road bike but are tough enough that they can be taken out on trails. Newer models can run you several hundred $$, but you may be able to find a used one in your size on Craigslist.

07-19-2006, 10:49 AM	#1 (permalink)
Jimellow Junkie	Road cycling for pleasure.. seeking feedback/advice. I am distantly considering getting into road cycling.. While hiking, I often see people cycling on the roads in and around the parks, and it might be something that interests me. I used to have a mountain bike as a kid and would ride often with friends; not in a mountain environment, but instead around the city, etc. I also see mountain bikers on the trails I am hiking, but of the two types of cycling, I am drawn more to road riding. At this point, I suspect I am generally just seeking feedback in general regarding road cycling.. I tend to be a bit streaky in my physical interests.. I used to rollerblade daily, then shifted to running, outside and on a treadmill. Prior to all that I used to swim, and was on the swim team during the summer in my high school years. Lately, I've been hiking and enjoying it immensely. Road cycling tends to be an activity that requires more of an investment financially, and thus I'd really like to think this through before "wasting" money on a bike, etc. Also, one concern of mine is that I am a pretty tall (6' 2" ish) and thin fellow, and I am not sure if my body type is the best suited for leaning over handlebars for extended periods of time.. I am not concerned about leg strength, as that is where the majority of my muscle is, but my height makes me wonder if cycling might be hard on my back, etc. If anyone has experience road cycling, on any level, I'd really appreciate any and all comments you are willing to share. I tend to favor physical activity outdoors, and generally my legs end up doing the brunt of the work. Cycling wouldn't be an exception here, and thus I suspect that is also why I may be drawn to it. Lastly, at this point I don't really want to get into the specifics of bike recommendations, etc, but I would be curious if you could provide a ballpark price range for one interested in getting into road cycling at an entry level. I wouldn't need top of the line gear (obviously), but I'd also look to invest in quality gear.. I gather cycling can be quite a pricey investment, and certainly one of the most expensive I've considered pursuing, outside of buying a car. Thanks. __________________ Desperation is no excuse for lowering one's standards.

07-19-2006, 11:24 AM	#2 (permalink)
thingstodo A Storm Is Coming Location: The Great White North	This is right up my alley as I went through the same thing a few years back. Here's my experience: I'd been wanting to get a bike for some time. My wife and I do a lot together so I also wanted to get her interested. My son had a Raleigh bike a few years before and I really liked how solid and dependable it was. We went to a decent bike store and ended up purchasing two Raleigh bikes for about $400 each. They were a little more because we got aluminum which was a little lighter. These were kind of mountain bikes but were a hybrid with smooth tires and 18 speeds. As time went on and the distance increased we added bike computers which give you the speed and distance, along with average speed, etc. These in a wireless form are about $40-50. That was when we hit rides of 15 miles or so. Gloves became a require item by that point as well due to sweaty hands. Next we added clipless (SPD type) pedals, so we had to purchase the pedals and shoes, together for one person maybe $100 or so. They really help your efficiency. We also got better seats as those gell seats are terrible and really numb you in bad places. Believe it or not, a hard, skinny seat feels much better and they fit your "sit" bones. The seats for mountain bikes are a little different than road bikes. About that time we began to learn about the right clothes. We already had moved to bike shorts. We discovered wicking fabric (name brand Cool Max, for example) and started using that for shirts and socks. It makes a huge difference and all my workout clothing is that sort of thing. The distances got longer and we started to learn about nutrition. When you ride an hour or less water is fine. When you move over that and depending on how hard you ride, you get into electrolyte replacement drinks, and I don't mean Gatoraide. That's OK in the beginning but there are other drinks that are much better. I personally like Accelerade. You'll also need to think about gel packs for fuel. We were riding these things about two hours for 30 miles so you need the fuel every 45 minutes or so riding that long. After riding for a little over a year and getting our doors blown off by road bike groups, we began to research road bikes. We also had a good relationship with the bike store owner so he was very helpful and not just a salesman. Six months later we purchased Klein road bikes. We switched to Look pedals for these bikes. The bikes were about $1700 and add on pedals and shoes. I think the bill with everything was about $4300 at that point, shoes, pedals and bikes. Road bike pedals are a little more expensive but well worth it. We were able to use the same computer. The weight of the bike went from nearly 30 lbs to right at 18 lbs. We felt like we had bicycle sports cars it was so different! Now we were able to join up with riding groups and that added a lot because it wasn't just the two of us riding. Groups are fun because you can go really fast drafting with the other riders, taking your place at the front when it's your turn. So that was our progression over two years or so. We invested a little in the beginning but made the larger investment later when we were really into it and made other inprovements and investments along the way. And one thing that helped was a subscription to a few bike magazines. There is a great deal to learn about taking care of your bike, equipment, nutrition, etc., and the bike books cover it all pretty much over the course of a year. It really depends on how serious you get. If you get hooked like we did you'll have a great activity you can spend money on that is also healthy! P.S. ALWAYS wear a helmut. Even if you are riding 2 miles down the road. You just never know. My wife got her back tire touched by a car slowing down at a traffic light. She was only going about 10 mph but it made her flip over the handle bars. Her helmu had a crack but her head was fine! Even better, the helmut companies give you a big discount on a replacement! Good luck with your decision and pop back with more questions. I'm no expert but I can share what I experienced and how things evolved for me, as well as what I might have done different along the way. Bike riding is a wonderful activity. Forgot to mention...I don't think height will have much impact. I'm 6'1" and I've had back toruble previously. Your back won't come into play on a hybrid, other than building up to the workload. If you get a road bike a good bike shop can adjust things to take the strain off your back. You don't need to lay down to ride well! __________________ If you're wringing your hands you can't roll up your shirt sleeves. Stangers have the best candy. Last edited by thingstodo; 07-19-2006 at 11:27 AM..

07-22-2006, 09:44 PM	#4 (permalink)
Jimellow Junkie	Great replies! Unfortunately, my interest is dwindling, and I have to get a steadier bead on my long term desires before I pursue going out and purchasing a bike, etc. I really appreciate the replies, and certainly welcome any more that may follow while I think about my future regarding this issue. __________________ Desperation is no excuse for lowering one's standards.

07-23-2006, 04:23 AM	#5 (permalink)
thingstodo A Storm Is Coming Location: The Great White North	I'll tell you this much...it never hurts to own a bike. I didn't get into how easy it is to purchase a used bike for a low price. If nothing else you can get a little exercise and who knows. I certainly never expected to get into riding and would have told you at the time that it was just for fun. I had other long-term "wants." Just remember: you're not making a life time commitment. There are a few things in life that really let your body go free. Diving and snorkeling are two of those things for me, along with riding. Sky diving and hang gliding aren't for me, but I'm sure other people see those activities like that. There's nothing like the freedom of coasting down a long hill! Find something fun that is right for you and try a lot of things along the way! __________________ If you're wringing your hands you can't roll up your shirt sleeves. Stangers have the best candy.

08-20-2006, 07:04 AM	#8 (permalink)
thingstodo A Storm Is Coming Location: The Great White North	So Jimellow - have you decided to take the plunge yet? Keep us posted. It will be interesting to see if you end up liking riding as much as some of us! It will also be neat t hear about your progression if you do decide to get a bike. __________________ If you're wringing your hands you can't roll up your shirt sleeves. Stangers have the best candy.

07-19-2006, 04:51 PM	#3 (permalink)
eribrav Junkie Location: upstate NY	The story above is a very typical one for serious road cyclists. In addressing your situation specifically I would add that you really need a bike shop that has experience doing fittings. You absolutely can get a comfortable fit on a road bike, but you need to have someone who knows what they're doing fit you. Your body habitus should not be an impediment. Having said that, I wouldn't flip out too much over the fit of your first bike. Ideally, you could go pay for a fit, then look for a high quality used bike that's close to that fit. Bicycle enthusiasts are total equipment whores, often buying and then selling perfectly good bikes because they just like trying out the latest and greatest, and then moving on. You will get great bikes at 50% minimum discount if you do your homework. Places to look include the message board at the serotta forum, and road bike review dot com. I'd ride that first bike for a year or so. If you do get into it you will find that your favored position, and your fit, will evolve over that year. Once that's happened, sell the first bike and go get something new (or even custom depending on budget) and go for the ideal fit. If you don't end up getting hooked on cycling, well then it's no big loss and you move on. Have fun! Let us know how it turns out.

08-17-2006, 10:54 AM	#7 (permalink)
ozahs Tilted Location: Eden Prairie, MN	thingstodo just about says it all, great post. Last year my brother talked me into a MS society sponsored weeklong ride. It was about 300 miles over 5 days. I started training by riding into work a couple times a week, about 14 miles each way. We have a gym so I can take a shower before working. The limiting factor for me at first was the saddle soreness, but that is overcome by consisitent weekly riding, and gradually increasing the length of rides. My bike is an old Peugeot road bike that I purchased in about 1983. Only spent about $200 on it back then. You can purchase something today that weighs about 50 percent less for about $350. It actually rolls real nice, but does not fit me perfectly. Cannot afford to buy a new one. Cycling is a great low-impact way to increase your cardio fitness. I hope you decide to try it.

07-18-2007, 07:15 AM	#10 (permalink)
Jimellow Junkie	I am going to bump this, as I recently took brought my dad's Motobecane road bike out of the basement and had it inspected and made ride ready at a local bike shop. I had it out yesterday and rode for about three hours, probably covering 15-20 miles. I really enjoy riding, and in my experience I don't really become tired while riding until I stop; at which point I feel it in my legs. I'm in good shape and am a physically active person, and I had a lot of fun driving around the area. Unfortuntaely, the bike I'm currently using is older (20-30 years), and the back tire constantly starts to rub abainst the frame. Yesterday I was able to set it in a way that it stayed in place and didn't cause an issue, but when I went out today, as soon as I started riding it would shift and start rubbing against the frame again. I love riding, but the back tire seems to move and rub against the frame after I ride a short distance. I am generally not a fan of using hand me down things, and if this issue isn't resolved quickly and entirely, I will buy a new bike instead of play around with one that was made before I was born. I love riding and after going out yesterday for three hours, covering quite a few hills and generally having a nice time, I am interested in doing it more, but I suspect this might require me buying a new bike, and that leads to a whole new thought process in regards to the type of bike to buy and how much to spend. I like road bikes and don't find them uncomfortable. I like the thin tires and the potential to go fast and I much prefer riding the Motobecane over my mountain bike. I also love watching the UCI Pro Tour and related cycling events, but I also am not going to spend thousands of dollars on a bike initially, because I am not interested in racing and am far too frugal to justify spending thousands on anything that is going to give me pleasure. I also find that my interests are too temporary and streaky to justify spending excessive amounts on any one of them. However, I will always be drawn to physical activities, and biking is a nice alternative to running and hiking, so I don't think I will lose interest in it any time soon. That being said, I would be interested in buying a well built and reliable road bike that will allow me to spend my time enjoying riding and not figuring out what is broken or needs to be addressed before I can go riding again. As a means for perspective, I enjoy riding the Motobecane and would be content riding that for quite some time, but the tire issue has quickly become annoying; earlier today I was intending to ride for three hours or so, only to have the tire start rubbing, and me ultimately end up walking the bike home. I wanted to bump this thread instead of starting a new one. If anyone has any thoughts or recommendations I would greatly appreciate it. Initially I did not intend to turn this thread into a bike/brand recommendation thread, but if I am going to consider buying a new bike, such information might end up being very worthwhile. __________________ Desperation is no excuse for lowering one's standards.

07-18-2007, 08:48 AM	#11 (permalink)
squeeeb part of the problem Location: hic et ubique	the MOST important thing about buying a bike is fit. if you are not going to race and just want a bike to ride for pleasure, brand's aren't really important. they are all about the same. the biggest concern is fit. if you get a 3,000 bike that doesn't fit, it's useless. go to a local bicycle shop, tell them you want a road bike for riding a few hours for pleasure, and they will help you. try different brands of bikes in your price range, they will be the same size, but the geometry may be a bit different. keep trying bikes until you get the bike that you are most comfortable on. do not buy a bike from a place that is not a bike shop. bike shops build the bike correctly, when you buy from them they usually offer 1 year warranty or so, you meet the local bikers in your community, and they will help you when you need it. if you go to a bike shop and they are jerks, go to another one. as for brands of bikes...trek, specialized, giant, cannondale, all offer decent entry level bikes that will last. todays bottom line bikes were the top of the line bikes 5 years ago. a decent entry level bike will run about US $800. if you go for a $1,000, you will have a bike that will last you the rest of your life, unless you start racing or doing super long tours, and even then it will last at least 10 years. that's $100 a year for fun and health. good luck, let us know what you do. and keep asking questions if you have them. __________________ onward to mayhem!

07-18-2007, 08:55 AM	#12 (permalink)
roachboy Super Moderator Location: essex ma	is the back wheel rubbing because the wheel is out of true or because the frame is bent? my motobecane is also about 40. it is a fine machine. i got to it via more or less the same kind of process that you did, riding a hybrid for a few years, gradually finding that what started as advantages became limitations and then getting a road bike. there is fetish value in the ole motobecane, but there are obviously levels of biketechnology that can get you moving about faster and maybe someday i'll work my way up to one of them (i am lusting after fixed gears these days...) but we'll see. __________________ a gramophone its corrugated trumpet silver handle spinning dog. such faithfulness it hear it make you sick. -kamau brathwaite

07-18-2007, 11:11 AM	#16 (permalink)
cj2112 Unbelievable Location: Grants Pass OR	It sounds to me like the cones on the hub are loose. This will cause exactly what you are describing. There is a nut right against the hub on both sides of the wheel. If this is too loose it will allow the wheel to move left and right on it's axle, too tight and it adds too much friction to the bearings. I would start there, if that's the problem, it's pretty simple fix.

07-18-2007, 11:31 AM	#18 (permalink)
cj2112 Unbelievable Location: Grants Pass OR	the nut is right up against the wheel, not on the bicycle. There is one on each side of the wheel. Depending on the hub, you may be able to tighten them your self, just don't get them too tight. this graphic may help explain where they are: there is a locknut on either side of the hub, that is what your looking to check.

07-19-2007, 08:42 AM	#21 (permalink)
thingstodo A Storm Is Coming Location: The Great White North	Take it to a bike shop and see what they say. It may just be out of round. They can also work on the spokes. Worst case, you just replace the wheel. Another great brand with good entry level pricing between $500-1000 is Raleigh. Solid and will last for years. They also have great hybrids - combo road and mountain bikes. You wouldn't take these off the road but they are good for all kinds of road surfaces. The handlebars are like a mountain bike and the tires are also larger but have a smooth tread. __________________ If you're wringing your hands you can't roll up your shirt sleeves. Stangers have the best candy.

07-19-2007, 10:36 AM	#22 (permalink)
Jimellow Junkie	I took it to the bike shop earlier. Initially he just tightened the quick release clamp and told me to go give it a ride to see if it was fixed. I'd done that about 100 times to date, but humored him anyway. The wheel hugged the frame again, and he said it might need a new clamp. He seems to think it's a clamp issue, and will potentially replace it with a new one. I'm not really sold on the fact that it is a clamp issue, but I'd like to be proven wrong. In regards to potential bikes.. Raleigh seems to have a solid track record. I am not interested in a hybrid bike, as I love the road bikes and their ability to go fast on the narrow tires. I've ridden a mountain bike for most of my life, and after experiencing a road bike, I find them fantastic. I get a kick out of watching the UCI Pro Tour riders go over cobblestones, and this year's Gent-Wevelgem cobblestone section claimed quite a few riders, with one being thrown directly onto his face. __________________ Desperation is no excuse for lowering one's standards.

07-19-2007, 11:17 AM	#23 (permalink)
squeeeb part of the problem Location: hic et ubique	you mentioned a bianchi. my main road bike is a bianchi (i also have a surly fixed gear) and i love it. many hundreds of miles later, it is still going strong. and celeste is just a cool color. __________________ onward to mayhem!

07-21-2007, 02:40 AM	#24 (permalink)
thingstodo A Storm Is Coming Location: The Great White North	I totally agree with you on the road bike feeling. I have a Klein and it just feels like driving a great sports car. You don't even turn the handlebar, just lean and it turns! And the speed...wow!! I've actually had to slow down going down hill because I got scared! I hit 50 mph once down hill and said that's OK. __________________ If you're wringing your hands you can't roll up your shirt sleeves. Stangers have the best candy.

04-03-2009, 10:46 PM	#25 (permalink)
Jimellow Junkie	It's getting warmer and friends are talking of going on bike rides. Thus, I am going to bump this thread and see what sort of feedback I can get. I've heard good things about hybrid bikes, to the point where I'm almost considering one, but if I got a hybrid it would only be because friends want to hit some trail rides. An ideal ride for me involves roads and long distances; not trails and rocky terrain. I prefer hiking over biking if I'm headed into the woods. Does anyone have a link to price guides and/or bicycle review sites? The last bike I've been on is still the Motobecane referenced in this thread, and it still frustrates me that I only stopped riding because the bike kept breaking down; and even when I did ride, ride length was determined by how long I could go before the bike stopped working and not my own desire to stop. I'm a very active person, and it's really goofy to think I haven't purchased a bike since this thread was created in 2006. The prospect of hopping on a bike and riding outside in the beautiful weather is very appealing to me, and I guess my main reason for this post is to see if anything has changed in the years since my original post; whether it be in regards to the most reliable/best models, or the means by which to purchase a bike, or find reviews. If anyone has any contributions it would be appreciated. __________________ Desperation is no excuse for lowering one's standards.

04-04-2009, 03:15 AM	#26 (permalink)
thingstodo A Storm Is Coming Location: The Great White North	In my opinion you can't go wrong with a used Klein. With the economy the way it is now would be a good time. Check out Craig's list. If you plan to ride more than an hour at a time: You'll also need shoes for clipless pedals, water bottles, wicking material and bike shorts, learn about electrolytes and recovery from longer rides, Cytomax, a helmut (a must) gloves...check out some of the biking magazines because they will really help educate you on everything. A wireless computer (under $100) and a heart rate monitor are also worth it. __________________ If you're wringing your hands you can't roll up your shirt sleeves. Stangers have the best candy.

05-03-2009, 08:07 PM	#27 (permalink)
pointbock69 Registered User Location: Dallas, TX	sounds like you should get into Triathlon, you got two of three behind you already, swim, run - now go buy a nice used road bike for 400-500, that will get you a decent one that you will enjoy, but if you don't stick with it, it isn't the end of the world. Good luck!