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NoSoup · 07-08-2005, 09:35 AM

http://www.gamespot.com/xbox/action/...xthepathofneo/

I am very excited about this coming out - not only do you get to play as Neo, you get to play him in all the greatest scenes of The Matrix.

My only issue, I suppose, is the fact that it is coming out in current generation systems - in the 4th quarter of this year. The 360 will be out around that time, it's too bad they didn't wait for the next gens.

On the plus side, they seem to have done very well with the graphics for the current gen systems...

They are using the Enter the Matrix Engine, but modified it a bit to make things look prettier...

(Edit: Alright, I'm lame - I can't seem to get a screenshot or three to show up. If anyone else would like to, you are welcome to add them)

the_marq · 07-08-2005, 09:47 AM

This does look cool, I am looking fwd to the scene were he bangs Carrie-Anne Moss in that cave.

Lasereth · 07-08-2005, 10:25 AM

I love all three Matrix movies. I hope they do good with this one even though I can't say I have high hopes. It seems like a game based on actual movie events would be worse than one that's not...but then again, GoldenEye is one of the best videogames ever.

-Lasereth

FngKestrel · 07-08-2005, 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by the_marq

This does look cool, I am looking fwd to the scene were he bangs Carrie-Anne Moss in that cave.

BuahahaHAHAHHAAA!

Priceless.

sadistikdreams · 07-08-2005, 12:28 PM

OMG, MY MIND JUST EXPLOGASMED.

It's what like, everyone has been waiting for. I mean, it makes sense. With the Spiderman 2 Movie game, you didn't go around playing as a secondary character, you play as spiderman. They should've made this game instead of enter the matrix.

But oh man oh man, I can't wait until this comes out. I hope you get to do all the training contruct dealies, like the jumping program, the dojo fight with Morpheus. That would be off the hook.

NoSoup · 07-08-2005, 12:31 PM

I don't know about the jump program, but you DO get to train with Morpheous in the Dojo.

If you follow the link, there is a portion where you hear Neo say "I know kung-fu" Followed by Morpheous responding "Show Me"

It then shows a portion of a fight between Morpheous and Neo - in fact, the beginning of the sequence looks pretty much identical to the movie - very impressive indeed

Destrox · 07-08-2005, 04:43 PM

Another matrix game eh? They just keep pumping those out. GUess its best that I dont have a xbox, otherwise I'd be tempted to purchase that.

Spoiler: Testing forum ability

Mr.Deflok · 07-08-2005, 06:36 PM

Pumping them out?

Enter the Matrix... years later Matrix Online... that's hardly pumping them out.

Now Star Wars on the other hand..

Mind you we've been getting some freakin' awesome Star Wars games lately.

sadistikdreams · 07-08-2005, 11:26 PM

Yeah, after I posted I looked at the link.

I don't know, it just looks like you do all the fights from the movies. Kinda boring if you ask me. Maybe some extra side missions, like in Spiderman 2 game.

RAGEAngel9 · 07-10-2005, 07:57 AM

As long as it doesn't have as many problems as EtM, I'll probably give it a try.
EtM was great for filling story in the Matrix world, the technical issues annoyed the piss out of me.

SmyDnBz · 07-10-2005, 06:50 PM

This seems interesting, Enter the Matrix seemed to be rushed just so they could boast the game was released with the movie. Hopefully, this makes up for the disappointment that game caused.

begforme2 · 07-11-2005, 06:59 AM

There's a good article about it on IGN. The concept is that people were pissed of at ETM because you can't be Neo or do much of the cool stuff that he can do.

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...anything that Neo could do in the movies you'll be able to do in the game as well

http://ps2.ign.com/articles/611/611395p1.html

bobophil · 07-13-2005, 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by SmyDnBz

This seems interesting, Enter the Matrix seemed to be rushed just so they could boast the game was released with the movie. Hopefully, this makes up for the disappointment that game caused.

Personally, I like Enter the Matrix. I admit, there could be a couple things that could have been better, but overall, focus and stuff, the game is really fun.

NoSoup · 07-13-2005, 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by bobophil

Personally, I like Enter the Matrix. I admit, there could be a couple things that could have been better, but overall, focus and stuff, the game is really fun.

I loved the actually running around part - I hated the driving part and the part when you are shooting from the ship is absolutely terrible.

I can't really get over how matrix-eske the game was in most respects - the music is unbelievable, and when you are running from the agents and kicking in doors - not to mention running across rooftops - it feels like you are practically living in the game...

bobophil · 07-15-2005, 12:14 PM

yea, thats all i meant.

StuckinRow · 07-16-2005, 05:09 PM

I cant wait until that comes out. Supposively there is an alternate ending, one where neo doesnt die perhaps?

Wingless · 07-17-2005, 11:20 PM

Oh, but how do you know that Neo died in the end anyways?

StuckinRow · 08-01-2005, 02:09 PM

Yea, that is definately a whole different discussion....

Redjake · 08-01-2005, 04:39 PM

Spoiler: the wachowskis have said unofficially that neo didn't die at the end of Revolutions.....unofficially. they said they haven't decided how they will show this in the future, but they said him being completely dead is pretty much not true.

if I can find a link I'll post it, I can't remember where I saw it.....

sadistikdreams · 08-01-2005, 06:21 PM

Yeah, and Spoiler: The machines haven't returned neo's remains, even though they've confirmed that they haven't recycled his body. Morpheus was very persistant in trying to retrieve/have the machines return Neo's body.

777 · 08-02-2005, 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by sadistikdreams

I don't know, it just looks like you do all the fights from the movies. Kinda boring if you ask me. Maybe some extra side missions, like in Spiderman 2 game.

Don't worry, they threw in some extra stuff to do. I tryed it out at E3 for a few minutes. The demo have 2 stages, the lobby shoot out, with Trinity there as back-up, and a training scene in a snowy part of Japan with Neo fighting some some dudes in white. And everyone wielded katanas!

TrumanTT · 08-16-2005, 12:39 PM

RedJake
sadistikdreams

Hey where are you getting these spoilers from? Is this part of Enter the Matrix online game? Im not a big fan of having more story out through the games but I would like to see something like the Animatrix or hopefully another movie

sadistikdreams · 08-16-2005, 12:56 PM

Yeah, my spoiler is from what's been going on the Matrix Online game.

And, OMG 777! KATANAS? SWEEEET. I knew they wouldn't just make it the fights in the movies, there HAD to be more.

Lwang9276 · 08-16-2005, 03:51 PM

dam this games seems interesting,especialliy if it reveals more of the matrix series!!!

biznatch · 08-19-2005, 09:14 AM

Considering this is the dream of most Matrix fans, I really hope they make this grand. If they fuck this up I'm gonna be pissed. I mean, look at the success of the movies, but you can't manage to make a great ass game on the third try? that would really suck. *crosses fingers*

FngKestrel · 08-19-2005, 09:33 AM

Well, look at the Star Wars movies and the games the game made on that license. That's been pretty hit or miss.

ascarter · 08-20-2005, 02:39 PM

I'm not holding my breath on this one, I played "Enter the Matrix" and wasn't all that impressed.

Vales419 · 08-20-2005, 10:56 PM

Yes, I have to admit that I am really interested in this game, even though the shear HORROR of Enter The Matrix. I played that game and was severly pissed off to the fact the game was buggy and it just didn't flow right. I am always intersested in the additional storyline the brothers put in the game so I think I will have to pick this up.

Peace,

V.

biznatch · 08-21-2005, 12:10 PM

I haven't played The Matrix Online, How was that one?
I think I'm gonna disregard both previous games and get my hopes up for this one...I mean it looks like its gonne be great...have you seen the trailer? kickass stuff.

NoSoup · 11-09-2005, 01:02 AM

Well, I've spent the last... oh... say...

Six Hours playing this game...

Here's my opinion.

Very, very, very disappointing. The graphics are not very good - at all. Additionally there are a ridiculous amount of glitches in the game - Neo "talking on the phone" - except, there's no phone in his hand, and unbelieveable amount of clipping though clothing, the shooting system is relative crap, and the hand-to-hand combat is very below par. Granted, it's been awhile, but if I remember correctly "Enter the Matrix" hand to hand was waaaay better.

I am so very disappointed - if it didn't involve The Matrix, I probably would have quit long ago. Granted, some parts are still entertaining, but it is way below even standard games of today.

As far as the story goes, it is very... loosely... based on the movies, which I found very odd. The editing of the movie sequences leaves something to be desired. Many, if not most, of the key scenes have been changed to enable more of a playable aspect of it. Unfortunately, most of them are retarded. For instance, Spoiler: In the park fight, where you fight all the Smiths, you have to punch the surrounding buildings to get them to collapse so that more Smiths don't come. At the end, instead of exiting via flying out of a giant pile of Smiths, they just seem to diasappear once the buildings are knocked down.

Other aspects of the game are just completely ridiculously stupid. I kid you not, at one point you fight Spoiler: ANT PEOPLE. Yeah, giant red ants that you have to beat down with a big candle. Ridiculous.

Anyway, I'm just at the point where I left the Merovingian's Chateau, and so there shouldn't be too too much game left. Fortunately, there hasn't been any portion of the game that has taken place outside the Matrix as of yet, nor any driving - both poorly done when it seems that they put some time into the game.

I'll update you as I progress, I imagine I'll finish it in the next coupld of days...

Overally, I'd give it a 4.5 out of 10 - and 4 of those points are given simply because it is based on The Matrix...

More glitches that occur far to often -

The camera is terrible, half the time you are looking at a wall up close and personal and mashing on buttons.

Often, when you die and restart the level, the sound is completely messed up. No Music, no gunshots, no anything except the sound of punches - except the sound is played with a 1-3 second delay.

Theweapons you can use are extraordinarily limited, which isn't that big of a deal, I suppose, but kinda irks me. Regular pistols, "Heavy pistol" (aka the agents weapon, presumably .50 cal) Submachine guns, Assault Rifle, and Grenade launcher. There isn't even a reload key. For the melee weapons, you can choose between a couple of swords, a couple of short weapons (a hatchet and a small scythe looking thing that I'm sure probably does have a proper name, but I can't be bothered to look it up) and a couple of staffs. The problem lies in the fact that the melee weapons are very, very rare - except in the chateau level.

sadistikdreams · 11-09-2005, 07:33 AM

Oh so it's already out?

I should rent it.

I did notice how crappy the graphics looked from the commercials. UGH, I think Enter the Matrix had better graphics.

Oh and Spoiler: ANT PEOPLE? What the hell? I mean, I'd like to fight ant people, but how does that even fit into the story?

Pragma · 11-09-2005, 12:14 PM

Ouch - I'm glad I didn't buy it, I think I'll have to find a copy to rent somewhere. I was excited about the idea, but turns out the implementation is pretty crap, huh?

NoSoup · 11-09-2005, 12:35 PM

Wow... Just.... Wow.

Alright, so I finished the game after about another hour of playing it, so total playtime is approximately sevenish hours.

So, I have some good news and bad news...

The good news is, at the very end of the game - and only the end of the game, they actually have CG cut scenes instead of just using the not-so-great quality models. The CG is fantastic - it looks spectacular. The bad news, however, involves what it is CGing...

*The following spoiler will contain what happens in the end of the game. If you prefer not to know, don't read it. If, however, you don't want to know because you think it may actually relate to anything in The Matrix, read on - because it doesn't.

Spoiler:

Alright, so right after the big fight with Agent Smith in the rain (including the aerial battle) it cuts to the white room with the leather chairs in it. Two old school atari-eske figures walk up and sit down. They explain that although the ending of the movie was great, being Jesus in a video game isn't all that fun. So, they changed the ending. You now get to fight a super-ultra Agent Smith bot.

*cut to CG*

All the Smiths collect rubble and trash left from the fight, and create an enourmous Smith Bot. Think Power Rangers....

To beat him, it's ridiculously simple - dodge to the left every 5 seconds or so, when he attempts to hit you (which is conviently announces by the super-ultra Agent Smith Bot yelling) and press A to charge it when the A button appears on the bottom of the screen.

It gets worse...

When you do beat him, it cuts to portions of the movie where they say that the war is over. Guess what song begins to play?

A hint - the cheesiest, worst song you could possibly choose for the final scene in The Matrix.

That's right, Queens "We are the Champions" begins blaring.

Un-fucking-believable.

Indeed, they certainly are the champions of fucking up what could have been a great game.

I'm curious if anyone else has played this, and what their opinion is. I'm revising my current rating of 4.5-10 to 1.5/10. I originally gave points because it was based on The Matrix, but as you can see from the spoiler, that isn't necessarily the case.

Anyway, I would highly recommend you do not purchase it - rent it, maybe, but rent it knowing that you are in for a game that is laughably terrible - you'd be paying for the humor factor only, that's about all...

FngKestrel · 11-09-2005, 01:43 PM

NoSoup, please tell me you're kidding. That's horrible.

sadistikdreams · 11-09-2005, 03:07 PM

Oh my fucking god.

It really sounds like they set out to make a good game, but then got really baked and were all like: "fuck it, let's just get this shit done for XMAS. Hell, Thanksgiving!".

It still sounds pretty campy, which is good enough for me.

FngKestrel · 11-09-2005, 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by sadistikdreams

Oh my fucking god.

It really sounds like they set out to make a good game, but then got really baked and were all like: "fuck it, let's just get this shit done for XMAS. Hell, Thanksgiving!".

It still sounds pretty campy, which is good enough for me.

Hahahah...

NoSoup · 11-09-2005, 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by FngKestrel

NoSoup, please tell me you're kidding. That's horrible.

I wish I was, my friend

Anxst · 11-09-2005, 04:44 PM

I was afraid something like this would happen. I trust Shiny about as far as I can throw a tank lately.

Enter the Matrix could have used some work, but it was playable, and the movie scenes were cool. This just sounds...

horrific.

777 · 11-10-2005, 09:53 AM

I played it for a few minutes on an X-Box yesterday. I shows some promise. I think a lot of moves are unlock from the begining that the tutorial doesn't mention. I was fighting that one guy at the end of the kung fu tournament (combat training), and did this cool combo that ended with my victim flying through the air, grabing him by the legs, and whiping him down on to the pavement. The montages look cool.

Shiny has made some awesome games in the past, such as Sacrifice and Earthworm Jim. Hopefully, their talent will show with this title.

Czernobog · 11-10-2005, 12:08 PM

Okay, my personal opinion is this: gameplay-wise, it's not bad. The firearms combat is kinda wonky, but with the number of hand-to-hand stuff you can do you probably won't be shooting much anyway. The levels taken from the movies are mostly good, the ones they made up range from nifty to super-uber-rediculously-DUMB.

The ending...sucks. There is NO other way to put it. If you get the game, do yourself a favor and DON'T beat it. Finish the final smith fight, and quit. It'll be more fullfilling, trust me.

My theory is that the Wachowskies didn't actually write the first Matrix movie. There was a lawsuit a while back that no one payed any attention to where someone claimed they stole the screenplay from him. I'm starting to believe it now, though. Consider this; the first movie was great. Amazing. A marvel of technology and psychology all rolled into one. The second...eh. Not quite crap, but nowhere near as good as the first. The third was just awful.
The games have been sub-par, at best. For gameplay, they're not too bad, but the story is just not there. And after watching the final sequence (which I wish I could burn out of my brain), I have to assume that the Wachowskies both stole the original screenplay, and are complete fucking morons.

Okay, I'm done now.

07-08-2005, 09:35 AM	#1 (permalink)
NoSoup Non-Rookie Location: Green Bay, WI	The Matrix: Path of Neo http://www.gamespot.com/xbox/action/...xthepathofneo/ I am very excited about this coming out - not only do you get to play as Neo, you get to play him in all the greatest scenes of The Matrix. My only issue, I suppose, is the fact that it is coming out in current generation systems - in the 4th quarter of this year. The 360 will be out around that time, it's too bad they didn't wait for the next gens. On the plus side, they seem to have done very well with the graphics for the current gen systems... They are using the Enter the Matrix Engine, but modified it a bit to make things look prettier... (Edit: Alright, I'm lame - I can't seem to get a screenshot or three to show up. If anyone else would like to, you are welcome to add them) __________________ I have an aura of reliability and good judgement. Just in case you were wondering... Last edited by NoSoup; 07-08-2005 at 10:05 AM..

07-08-2005, 09:47 AM	#2 (permalink)
the_marq All hail the Mountain King Location: Black Mesa	This does look cool, I am looking fwd to the scene were he bangs Carrie-Anne Moss in that cave. <img src="http://image.com.com/gamespot/images/2005/139/926493_20050520_screen002.jpg"> __________________ The Truth: Johnny Cash could have kicked Bruce Lee's ass if he wanted to. #3 in a series

07-08-2005, 10:25 AM	#3 (permalink)
Lasereth Knight of the Old Republic Location: Winston-Salem, NC	I love all three Matrix movies. I hope they do good with this one even though I can't say I have high hopes. It seems like a game based on actual movie events would be worse than one that's not...but then again, GoldenEye is one of the best videogames ever. -Lasereth __________________ "A Darwinian attacks his theory, seeking to find flaws. An ID believer defends his theory, seeking to conceal flaws." -Roger Ebert

07-08-2005, 12:28 PM	#5 (permalink)
sadistikdreams lonely rolling star Location: Seattle.	OMG, MY MIND JUST EXPLOGASMED. It's what like, everyone has been waiting for. I mean, it makes sense. With the Spiderman 2 Movie game, you didn't go around playing as a secondary character, you play as spiderman. They should've made this game instead of enter the matrix. But oh man oh man, I can't wait until this comes out. I hope you get to do all the training contruct dealies, like the jumping program, the dojo fight with Morpheus. That would be off the hook. __________________ "Besides the noble art of getting things done, there is the noble art of leaving things undone. The wisdom of life consists in the elimination of non-essentials." -Lin Yutang hearts, by d.a.

07-08-2005, 12:31 PM	#6 (permalink)
NoSoup Non-Rookie Location: Green Bay, WI	I don't know about the jump program, but you DO get to train with Morpheous in the Dojo. If you follow the link, there is a portion where you hear Neo say "I know kung-fu" Followed by Morpheous responding "Show Me" It then shows a portion of a fight between Morpheous and Neo - in fact, the beginning of the sequence looks pretty much identical to the movie - very impressive indeed __________________ I have an aura of reliability and good judgement. Just in case you were wondering...

07-08-2005, 04:43 PM	#7 (permalink)
Destrox Metal and Rock 4 Life Location: Phoenix	Another matrix game eh? They just keep pumping those out. GUess its best that I dont have a xbox, otherwise I'd be tempted to purchase that. Spoiler: Testing forum ability __________________ You bore me.... next.

07-08-2005, 06:36 PM	#8 (permalink)
Mr.Deflok Blood + Fire Location: New Zealand	Pumping them out? Enter the Matrix... years later Matrix Online... that's hardly pumping them out. Now Star Wars on the other hand.. Mind you we've been getting some freakin' awesome Star Wars games lately.

07-08-2005, 11:26 PM	#9 (permalink)
sadistikdreams lonely rolling star Location: Seattle.	Yeah, after I posted I looked at the link. I don't know, it just looks like you do all the fights from the movies. Kinda boring if you ask me. Maybe some extra side missions, like in Spiderman 2 game. __________________ "Besides the noble art of getting things done, there is the noble art of leaving things undone. The wisdom of life consists in the elimination of non-essentials." -Lin Yutang hearts, by d.a.

07-10-2005, 07:57 AM	#10 (permalink)
RAGEAngel9 Insane Location: Vermont	As long as it doesn't have as many problems as EtM, I'll probably give it a try. EtM was great for filling story in the Matrix world, the technical issues annoyed the piss out of me.

07-10-2005, 06:50 PM	#11 (permalink)
SmyDnBz Upright	This seems interesting, Enter the Matrix seemed to be rushed just so they could boast the game was released with the movie. Hopefully, this makes up for the disappointment that game caused.

07-15-2005, 12:14 PM	#15 (permalink)
bobophil Tilted	yea, thats all i meant. __________________ Check and mate, now king me. -Homer

07-16-2005, 05:09 PM	#16 (permalink)
StuckinRow Upright	I cant wait until that comes out. Supposively there is an alternate ending, one where neo doesnt die perhaps?

07-17-2005, 11:20 PM	#17 (permalink)
Wingless Psycho Location: Metro Detroit, Mich, USA	Oh, but how do you know that Neo died in the end anyways? __________________ Tommy Nibs is a funny word. So here I am, above palm trees, so straight and tall... You are, smaller getting smaller, but I still see... you. Jimmy Eat World - Goodbye Sky Harbor

08-01-2005, 02:09 PM	#18 (permalink)
StuckinRow Upright	Yea, that is definately a whole different discussion....

08-01-2005, 04:39 PM	#19 (permalink)
Redjake I'm a family man - I run a family business. Location: Wilson, NC	Spoiler: the wachowskis have said unofficially that neo didn't die at the end of Revolutions.....unofficially. they said they haven't decided how they will show this in the future, but they said him being completely dead is pretty much not true. if I can find a link I'll post it, I can't remember where I saw it..... __________________ Off the record, on the q.t., and very hush-hush.

08-01-2005, 06:21 PM	#20 (permalink)
sadistikdreams lonely rolling star Location: Seattle.	Yeah, and Spoiler: The machines haven't returned neo's remains, even though they've confirmed that they haven't recycled his body. Morpheus was very persistant in trying to retrieve/have the machines return Neo's body. __________________ "Besides the noble art of getting things done, there is the noble art of leaving things undone. The wisdom of life consists in the elimination of non-essentials." -Lin Yutang hearts, by d.a.

08-16-2005, 12:39 PM	#22 (permalink)
TrumanTT Upright Location: Columbia, MO	RedJake sadistikdreams Hey where are you getting these spoilers from? Is this part of Enter the Matrix online game? Im not a big fan of having more story out through the games but I would like to see something like the Animatrix or hopefully another movie __________________ "I hate quotations. Tell me about yourself." Ralph Waldo Emerson "I feel sorry for the failed lives of everyone who can sum up their experiences in one small quote." MINE! (but thats what I think Ralphie was trying to get at ^up there^

08-16-2005, 12:56 PM	#23 (permalink)
sadistikdreams lonely rolling star Location: Seattle.	Yeah, my spoiler is from what's been going on the Matrix Online game. And, OMG 777! KATANAS? SWEEEET. I knew they wouldn't just make it the fights in the movies, there HAD to be more. __________________ "Besides the noble art of getting things done, there is the noble art of leaving things undone. The wisdom of life consists in the elimination of non-essentials." -Lin Yutang hearts, by d.a.

08-16-2005, 03:51 PM	#24 (permalink)
Lwang9276 Crazy	dam this games seems interesting,especialliy if it reveals more of the matrix series!!!

08-19-2005, 09:14 AM	#25 (permalink)
biznatch Junkie Location: France	Considering this is the dream of most Matrix fans, I really hope they make this grand. If they fuck this up I'm gonna be pissed. I mean, look at the success of the movies, but you can't manage to make a great ass game on the third try? that would really suck. crosses fingers

08-19-2005, 09:33 AM	#26 (permalink)
FngKestrel Junkie	Well, look at the Star Wars movies and the games the game made on that license. That's been pretty hit or miss.

08-20-2005, 02:39 PM	#27 (permalink)
ascarter Upright	I'm not holding my breath on this one, I played "Enter the Matrix" and wasn't all that impressed.

08-20-2005, 10:56 PM	#28 (permalink)
Vales419 Crazy Location: Purgatory	Yes, I have to admit that I am really interested in this game, even though the shear HORROR of Enter The Matrix. I played that game and was severly pissed off to the fact the game was buggy and it just didn't flow right. I am always intersested in the additional storyline the brothers put in the game so I think I will have to pick this up. Peace, V. __________________ "Here's ten bucks, bring me the head of Barry Manilow" --Dr. Denis Leary

08-21-2005, 12:10 PM	#29 (permalink)
biznatch Junkie Location: France	I haven't played The Matrix Online, How was that one? I think I'm gonna disregard both previous games and get my hopes up for this one...I mean it looks like its gonne be great...have you seen the trailer? kickass stuff.

11-09-2005, 01:02 AM	#30 (permalink)
NoSoup Non-Rookie Location: Green Bay, WI	Well, I've spent the last... oh... say... Six Hours playing this game... Here's my opinion. Very, very, very disappointing. The graphics are not very good - at all. Additionally there are a ridiculous amount of glitches in the game - Neo "talking on the phone" - except, there's no phone in his hand, and unbelieveable amount of clipping though clothing, the shooting system is relative crap, and the hand-to-hand combat is very below par. Granted, it's been awhile, but if I remember correctly "Enter the Matrix" hand to hand was waaaay better. I am so very disappointed - if it didn't involve The Matrix, I probably would have quit long ago. Granted, some parts are still entertaining, but it is way below even standard games of today. As far as the story goes, it is very... loosely... based on the movies, which I found very odd. The editing of the movie sequences leaves something to be desired. Many, if not most, of the key scenes have been changed to enable more of a playable aspect of it. Unfortunately, most of them are retarded. For instance, Spoiler: In the park fight, where you fight all the Smiths, you have to punch the surrounding buildings to get them to collapse so that more Smiths don't come. At the end, instead of exiting via flying out of a giant pile of Smiths, they just seem to diasappear once the buildings are knocked down. Other aspects of the game are just completely ridiculously stupid. I kid you not, at one point you fight Spoiler: ANT PEOPLE. Yeah, giant red ants that you have to beat down with a big candle. Ridiculous. Anyway, I'm just at the point where I left the Merovingian's Chateau, and so there shouldn't be too too much game left. Fortunately, there hasn't been any portion of the game that has taken place outside the Matrix as of yet, nor any driving - both poorly done when it seems that they put some time into the game. I'll update you as I progress, I imagine I'll finish it in the next coupld of days... Overally, I'd give it a 4.5 out of 10 - and 4 of those points are given simply because it is based on The Matrix... More glitches that occur far to often - The camera is terrible, half the time you are looking at a wall up close and personal and mashing on buttons. Often, when you die and restart the level, the sound is completely messed up. No Music, no gunshots, no anything except the sound of punches - except the sound is played with a 1-3 second delay. Theweapons you can use are extraordinarily limited, which isn't that big of a deal, I suppose, but kinda irks me. Regular pistols, "Heavy pistol" (aka the agents weapon, presumably .50 cal) Submachine guns, Assault Rifle, and Grenade launcher. There isn't even a reload key. For the melee weapons, you can choose between a couple of swords, a couple of short weapons (a hatchet and a small scythe looking thing that I'm sure probably does have a proper name, but I can't be bothered to look it up) and a couple of staffs. The problem lies in the fact that the melee weapons are very, very rare - except in the chateau level. __________________ I have an aura of reliability and good judgement. Just in case you were wondering... Last edited by NoSoup; 11-09-2005 at 12:38 PM..

11-09-2005, 07:33 AM	#31 (permalink)
sadistikdreams lonely rolling star Location: Seattle.	Oh so it's already out? I should rent it. I did notice how crappy the graphics looked from the commercials. UGH, I think Enter the Matrix had better graphics. Oh and Spoiler: ANT PEOPLE? What the hell? I mean, I'd like to fight ant people, but how does that even fit into the story? __________________ "Besides the noble art of getting things done, there is the noble art of leaving things undone. The wisdom of life consists in the elimination of non-essentials." -Lin Yutang hearts, by d.a.

11-09-2005, 12:14 PM	#32 (permalink)
Pragma I am Winter Born Location: Alexandria, VA	Ouch - I'm glad I didn't buy it, I think I'll have to find a copy to rent somewhere. I was excited about the idea, but turns out the implementation is pretty crap, huh? __________________ Eat antimatter, Posleen-boy!

11-09-2005, 12:35 PM	#33 (permalink)
NoSoup Non-Rookie Location: Green Bay, WI	Wow... Just.... Wow. Alright, so I finished the game after about another hour of playing it, so total playtime is approximately sevenish hours. So, I have some good news and bad news... The good news is, at the very end of the game - and only the end of the game, they actually have CG cut scenes instead of just using the not-so-great quality models. The CG is fantastic - it looks spectacular. The bad news, however, involves what it is CGing... The following spoiler will contain what happens in the end of the game. If you prefer not to know, don't read it. If, however, you don't want to know because you think it may actually relate to anything in The Matrix, read on - because it doesn't. Spoiler: Alright, so right after the big fight with Agent Smith in the rain (including the aerial battle) it cuts to the white room with the leather chairs in it. Two old school atari-eske figures walk up and sit down. They explain that although the ending of the movie was great, being Jesus in a video game isn't all that fun. So, they changed the ending. You now get to fight a super-ultra Agent Smith bot. cut to CG* All the Smiths collect rubble and trash left from the fight, and create an enourmous Smith Bot. Think Power Rangers.... To beat him, it's ridiculously simple - dodge to the left every 5 seconds or so, when he attempts to hit you (which is conviently announces by the super-ultra Agent Smith Bot yelling) and press A to charge it when the A button appears on the bottom of the screen. It gets worse... When you do beat him, it cuts to portions of the movie where they say that the war is over. Guess what song begins to play? A hint - the cheesiest, worst song you could possibly choose for the final scene in The Matrix. That's right, Queens "We are the Champions" begins blaring. Un-fucking-believable. Indeed, they certainly are the champions of fucking up what could have been a great game. I'm curious if anyone else has played this, and what their opinion is. I'm revising my current rating of 4.5-10 to 1.5/10. I originally gave points because it was based on The Matrix, but as you can see from the spoiler, that isn't necessarily the case. Anyway, I would highly recommend you do not purchase it - rent it, maybe, but rent it knowing that you are in for a game that is laughably terrible - you'd be paying for the humor factor only, that's about all... __________________ I have an aura of reliability and good judgement. Just in case you were wondering... Last edited by NoSoup; 11-09-2005 at 12:38 PM..

11-09-2005, 01:43 PM	#34 (permalink)
FngKestrel Junkie	NoSoup, please tell me you're kidding. That's horrible.

11-09-2005, 03:07 PM	#35 (permalink)
sadistikdreams lonely rolling star Location: Seattle.	Oh my fucking god. It really sounds like they set out to make a good game, but then got really baked and were all like: "fuck it, let's just get this shit done for XMAS. Hell, Thanksgiving!". It still sounds pretty campy, which is good enough for me. __________________ "Besides the noble art of getting things done, there is the noble art of leaving things undone. The wisdom of life consists in the elimination of non-essentials." -Lin Yutang hearts, by d.a.

11-09-2005, 04:44 PM	#38 (permalink)
Anxst Condensing fact from the vapor of nuance. Location: Madison, WI	I was afraid something like this would happen. I trust Shiny about as far as I can throw a tank lately. Enter the Matrix could have used some work, but it was playable, and the movie scenes were cool. This just sounds... horrific. __________________ Don't mind me. I'm just releasing the insanity pressure from my headvalves.

11-10-2005, 09:53 AM	#39 (permalink)
777 drawn and redrawn Location: Some where in Southern California	I played it for a few minutes on an X-Box yesterday. I shows some promise. I think a lot of moves are unlock from the begining that the tutorial doesn't mention. I was fighting that one guy at the end of the kung fu tournament (combat training), and did this cool combo that ended with my victim flying through the air, grabing him by the legs, and whiping him down on to the pavement. The montages look cool. Shiny has made some awesome games in the past, such as Sacrifice and Earthworm Jim. Hopefully, their talent will show with this title. __________________ "I don't know that I ever wanted greatness, on its own. It seems rather like wanting to be an engineer, rather than wanting to design something - or wanting to be a writer, rather than wanting to write. It should be a by-product, not a thing in itself. Otherwise, it's just an ego trip." Roger Zelazny

11-10-2005, 12:08 PM	#40 (permalink)
Czernobog Insane Location: NJ	Okay, my personal opinion is this: gameplay-wise, it's not bad. The firearms combat is kinda wonky, but with the number of hand-to-hand stuff you can do you probably won't be shooting much anyway. The levels taken from the movies are mostly good, the ones they made up range from nifty to super-uber-rediculously-DUMB. The ending...sucks. There is NO other way to put it. If you get the game, do yourself a favor and DON'T beat it. Finish the final smith fight, and quit. It'll be more fullfilling, trust me. My theory is that the Wachowskies didn't actually write the first Matrix movie. There was a lawsuit a while back that no one payed any attention to where someone claimed they stole the screenplay from him. I'm starting to believe it now, though. Consider this; the first movie was great. Amazing. A marvel of technology and psychology all rolled into one. The second...eh. Not quite crap, but nowhere near as good as the first. The third was just awful. The games have been sub-par, at best. For gameplay, they're not too bad, but the story is just not there. And after watching the final sequence (which I wish I could burn out of my brain), I have to assume that the Wachowskies both stole the original screenplay, and are complete fucking morons. Okay, I'm done now. __________________ Embrace the flame