The World of Warcraft Thread

[Reese]

Downed Pit Lord Argaloth in Baradin Hold tonight. Be prepared to kill this guy about a million times as pugs will be 1 shotting him weekly for the next 6 months. Heroic Deadmines is harder than this guy /sigh.

[Zeraph]

I totally agree that they should offer at least 1 free character transfer a year.

I do not like, however, free time added. It makes it super easy for hackers. I've had two accounts hacked that way.

[Zeraph]

So its been awhile since I've said my server, etc. I'm starting anew so far on Feathermoon because that's where my IRL friends play.

I also have two mains on nathrezim and bloody hollow. Anyone on those servers want to friend?

I'd also appreciate a universal friend who knows about all the new changes so I can get caught up, even if we never play together.

PM me for my email to add me.

[Zeraph]

Seriously? No one wants to chat in WoW?

[Cynthetiq]

chat? I'm too busy playing to spend time chatting.

[Zeraph]

Originally Posted by Cynthetiq

chat? I'm too busy playing to spend time chatting.

Not good at multi-tasking? I sometimes forget though that most everyone is a slower typist than I. I usually have 3 or 4 sentences between friend responses lol. All while fighting (in PvE at least, PvP not so much).

[Cynthetiq]

I can multitask but I'm really concentrating on playing. When raiding in vent I mute everyone that is just chatting about crap. I only want to hear directions not "oh man did you hear..." and "Wow, I just pwned some mage earlier in a BG."

I only chat when doing dailies and questing. Otherwise, I'm only on for raids and daily heroics.

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Oh and I got my 480GTX OC rig running again last night. If you aren't running a new graphics card you aren't seeing some of the really freaking cool ass water effects they got going on.

[Baraka_Guru]

I've been pleased with the water effects. They seem to have done a good job getting them to run efficiently. My card is a GeForce 8800 GT.

[Cynthetiq]

on the ultra settings not only do they wave, but the reflect buildings, sky, and other objects. My 9800GTX wasn't able to show the reflections. I saw them for the first time last night.

Watch the boat leaving Stormwind in this video.

YouTube - Ultra Water Effects - World of Warcraft Cataclysm PTR

YouTube - Ultra Water Effects - World of Warcraft Cataclysm PTR

[Baraka_Guru]

Yeah, my "recommended" dropped me down to "Good" settings for the most part. I'm fine with that, the game still looks good. I should play around with the settings to see if I can squeeze out a bit more than that, maybe with the water effects at least. I tend to notice that more than other features you'd get beyond the current settings.

[Scorps]

Originally Posted by Cynthetiq

on the ultra settings not only do they wave, but the reflect buildings, sky, and other objects. My 9800GTX wasn't able to show the reflections. I saw them for the first time last night.

Watch the boat leaving Stormwind in this video.

YouTube - Ultra Water Effects - World of Warcraft Cataclysm PTR

Im lucky my computer runs this game on all the lowest settings.

[Reese]

Water effects definitely look nice. I was a little worried when the first screenshots popped up from beta because the static images just doesn't do it justice. Plus I don't think they were missing either Object reflections or Terrain reflections and it just looked odd.

Has anyone tried leveling archeology yet? I've been working on it for months(it seems) and I'm not maxed yet. I'm not nearly as lucky on getting the rare items as my friends were. It's really demotivating to make grey items over and over with nothing to show for it. I shouldn't say I've been completely devoid of cool stuff. I did manage to finish my Fossilized Raptor mount tonight. Maybe that'll motivate me to get to 525 skill tomorrow.

[Punk.of.Ages]

I envy you lucky ones with actual graphics cards. I have to run my game on the lowest settings now and I had to use a work around they built into the game that takes away even more graphics just so I don't crash randomly. I can't even see a lot of the boss void zones, so i end up dying...

[Cynthetiq]

Originally Posted by Punk.of.Ages

I envy you lucky ones with actual graphics cards. I have to run my game on the lowest settings now and I had to use a work around they built into the game that takes away even more graphics just so I don't crash randomly. I can't even see a lot of the boss void zones, so i end up dying...

don't fret even with the graphics cards they changed that to be something so light and hard to see that people with good cards still die.

[Reese]

Originally Posted by Cynthetiq

don't fret even with the graphics cards they changed that to be something so light and hard to see that people with good cards still die.

Yeah if you have your graphics turned up to max you still die because there are so many friendly textures and lights on the ground that it hides the bad ones.

[Punk.of.Ages]

At least there's something there for you guys to try to see. Certain things just aren't there for me.

Like the second boss in The Throne of Tides. I have to constantly run around while I tank him just to make sure I stay out of his aoe because it is simply not on my screen and by the time I realize I'm dying from standing in it, I'm dead...

[Shauk]

Eh, finally going back to a good server with a good guild, just got approved today. Thank goodness, 85 was already making me cry with only pugs to look forward to.

[Zeraph]

eh so why doesn't anyone want to friend me

[Orchrist]

I have not been playing too much, hitting 85 and getting sick of pugs fast will do that to you. So just back to playing the alts now and raising my tradeskills.

Any questions you have Zeraph you're better off posting here, I don't know about anyone else but I'm still leery about their implementation for cross server and character chatting. I don't want to give my e-mail address/account name out to anyone I don't trust and know outside of the interwebs!


Punk, that reminds me of back when I played EverQuest in the early days on an unsupported video configuration, at least 50% of the textures were flat gray for me for a loooooong time!

[Zeraph]

Ok, question.

Fastest way to level? I'm playing a 31 druid feral dual spec healing. I'm thinking DF (cause healers get in so quick) but then I don't get to see the changes in the world.

[Orchrist]

Everyone has their own preference for leveling, but Dungeons mixed with questing while you are queued is probably going to be the preference. Even straight leveling through PVP experience is viable now according to my one friend who leveled a character that way. Myself I've been through the dungeons and done em all a million times. I'll do them once for the quests while I'm leveling but otherwise see all the new zone changes and quest everything out. It all comes down to what you really want out of the game... is getting to the max as fast as possible to you to meet up with some friends or would you rather see more of what the game has to offer while leveling.

Also keep in mind if you play on a PVP server, DF is going to be much less of a hassle, alternately if you play on a PVP server you may not see random world PVP as a hassle!

[YaWhateva]

I think questing and then doing the dungeon quests is the fastest. since they have raised quest xp rewards like 19 times.

[Cynthetiq]

definitely the questing and dungeons. I can't believe how fast people can level now to 80. It's absolutely crazy.

[Strange Famous]

I started playing the werewolf character.

Its quite an interesting story, although all the humans from this city speak pretty funny.

I have only played for a couple of days up to level 10, but I would definitely like to know who would do this to me? curse me to be a werewolf?

These Forsaken pricks seem to me to be straight clowns and not capable of masterminding it. Hopefully it will become a part of the story to deliver a definite and final treatment of death to the man responsible, Maybe it was this fucking dragon who smashed up SW?

[YaWhateva]

Originally Posted by Strange Famous

I started playing the werewolf character.

Its quite an interesting story, although all the humans from this city speak pretty funny.

I have only played for a couple of days up to level 10, but I would definitely like to know who would do this to me? curse me to be a werewolf?

These Forsaken pricks seem to me to be straight clowns and not capable of masterminding it. Hopefully it will become a part of the story to deliver a definite and final treatment of death to the man responsible, Maybe it was this fucking dragon who smashed up SW?

what if it was a woman? where would your raging hatred lie then? women can't be evil! can't ever hurt a woman!

[Orchrist]

The worgen curse is very old lore wise and has been revisited several times in the course of WoW's history until the most recent explanation. Read the history section here for a brief run-down and if you still have questions I may be able to fill in any blanks....

Worgen - Wowpedia - Your wiki guide to the World of Warcraft

[Strange Famous]

Originally Posted by YaWhateva

what if it was a woman? where would your raging hatred lie then? women can't be evil! can't ever hurt a woman!

Blizzard wouldnt make a major villian female I wouldnt have thought, as most of the people who play are probably male and wont want to kill a female enemy.

[Punk.of.Ages]

Lady Sylvanis is behind the attacks on the worgen...

She's the leader of the forsaken. She tells them what to do.

[Zeraph]

Originally Posted by Punk.of.Ages

Lady Sylvanis is behind the attacks on the worgen...

She's the leader of the forsaken. She tells them what to do.

She's eeeeeeeeeevviill. With a capital E.

[YaWhateva]

Originally Posted by Strange Famous

Blizzard wouldnt make a major villian female I wouldnt have thought, as most of the people who play are probably male and wont want to kill a female enemy.

UGH. I don't even know why I bother responding to anything you say. You're so in your own little world its crazy.

[Strange Famous]

Lady Sylvanis isnt exactly a villian

She is someone who protects her people by any means necessary - including some questionable ones.

When they cured me they told me that a night elf druid created the worgen curse... it was more a case of who spread the curse to Gillneer (sic?)

If it was Lady Sylvenas she must have had a good reason to do it, and the real treachery probably lies with King Greymane who provoked her to it.

[Baraka_Guru]

Did you just blame the victim? And how is invading a peaceful people protecting her own?

Sylvanas was the Horde general in the conquest of the formerly isolationist Gilneas. And by our contemporary standards, she's also a war criminal and has committed crimes against humanity with her use of chemical weapons.

She is a dark, vile sorceress who has cruelty in her heart and a corrupt desire for power.

[Punk.of.Ages]

Originally Posted by Strange Famous

Lady Sylvanis isnt exactly a villian

Tell that to the people of Gilneas...

Spoiler: At the end of the worgen starting area you watch her go directly against the orders of Garrosh and tell her general to use the chemical weaponry against the people of Gilneas. The chemicals turn any living thing they touch into undead. Since the forsaken can't procreate, she's using the weaponry to create more followers for herself.

The worgen curse was originally created by the druids of the fang, but the forsaken hostility is all to blame on Sylvanis and the Undercity.

[Strange Famous]

Originally Posted by Baraka_Guru

Did you just blame the victim? And how is invading a peaceful people protecting her own?

Sylvanas was the Horde general in the conquest of the formerly isolationist Gilneas. And by our contemporary standards, she's also a war criminal and has committed crimes against humanity with her use of chemical weapons.

She is a dark, vile sorceress who has cruelty in her heart and a corrupt desire for power.

Well, I am not claiming she is an innocent princess, but this is a bit strong.

She does what is necessary to free her people from slavery to the Lich King, and then to protect them from a world that would exterminate them simply for what they are.

[Baraka_Guru]

Originally Posted by Strange Famous

She does what is necessary to free her people from slavery to the Lich King, and then to protect them from a world that would exterminate them simply for what they are.

But at what cost? She is beyond redemption.

[Strange Famous]

Well then, she is like the lInquisitor in Ivan Karamazov's story then in that case. Casting herself into sin to save and redeem the people.

Those who think that wars (against massively superior forces) can be fought by fine, moral standards and tender kindness had best prepare themselves for slavery or death!

She fights by any means necessary to protect the freedom of a people who are surrounded by forces that think thay are unfit for "life" and should be liquidated. If she did not make hard choices then the undead would be crushed. SHe might have done things that are monsterous and evil. She doesnt live protected by millenium old magic or massive stone walls like these characters who can afford to condemn such things (ie the elves and humans)

[Reese]

The more I read about Sylvanas, the more evil she becomes. She might try to justify it as trying to save her "race" but she's only ever had revenge on her mind. Now that she has Val'Kyr under her command she has an unlimited force and no longer needs the Horde. I can't imagine she's going to come to her senses and quit using the Val'kyr and the new plague. She's got some really scary weapons in her arsenal right now and neither the Alliance or the Horde are safe from them. I'd say the next expansion has some really devastating consequences in store for Sylvanas and maybe the entire forsaken faction.

If you're curious about her entire story I'd suggest reading up on wowwiki.com.

[Zeraph]

So for rogue weapons, mutilate spec, is it still go for the highest dmg, not the highest DPS? Or did they change that? Or high dmg one hand, fast dagger in the other for more poison procs?

[Shauk]

The one person she wanted revenge against (Arthas) is dead, she did not deliver the killing blow, Fordring did. She too, will begin the cycle of misguided rage against innocents.

[Zeraph]

Ah so arthas is permanently gone from the game now? I can't experience that raid anymore?