Must be nice to win EotS :P

Hah, You should join The Incredibles you dirty alliance!

Boulderfist horde FTW! except at AV and WSG..

Has anyone used a powerleveling service? My friends just started a guild and I was considering playing again by they are alliance so I'd have to start from scratch.

I depise grinding and just want to be 70. Any reccomended services, or is it a really bad idea?

A friend used a leveling service on his priest from 30 to almost level 50. I actually reported his account every day for a week straight and the worst he got was a 24 hour suspension.

Keep in mind paying money for services like this is the reason we get spam in game from gold farmers/leveling services because it only gives them even more incentive to do it.

Well I went ahead and did it. In less than 3 weeks I should have a level 70 lol. I just have no patience to spend months leveling a guy so I can play with friends.

Just be careful. They're notoriously good at stealing your account later and bleeding it dry.

Use the refer a friend method your friend can grind a toon with you, and you both get 3x the xp when grouped together... Safer then exposing your account to some farmer. Also a lot of these places supposedly use what is called a 'bot' (a program that plays the character but the behavior is kind of obvious that it is not a real person). which can get your account banned.

Definitely take measures to change your account details once you have the character.

I stopped playing about 3 months ago and i'm unshure if i should restart playing with WotLK. I played hardcore style before, raiding 5+ days a week and long into the night. It was a lot of fun, but aiding with raidlead was a lot of effort, to. Do you think, the next addon will change "everything" completley? Beside the new classes for both fraction with the last addon, it was a better (read: heavier) learning curve and a lot of challenging fights.
But i really doubt, that with a 10th class and the same amount of healing requirements (7-8 on regular) it can hold my attention for to long.

Looking forward for WAR, but i've some sorrows about it's future when you can see what happened to AoC after only a few month.

One of the iggest problems with using services for power leveling is that they usually use your account to create toons that they use for spamming in the trade groups. then after enough complaints are filed, wow just suspends your account, and you are short an account, AND the money you paid to the leveling people. I would say dont do it.

WotLK Opening cinematic is up: World of Warcraft: Wrath of the Lich King

Was ok i guess. They always do an amazing job with the visuals.

WOTLK movie is kinda weak imo.

Yeah. Their CG movies always leave you wanting more. I was expecting something about Death Knights in there.

CG is of course beyond amazing as usual.

Ya, about that power leveling deal. Not such a great idea after all.

What ended up happening?

They got me up to level 25 and that's when I received a 3 day ban.



And the services reply:

Lol is it broken english or a 12 year old on the internets?
This is basically BS because I'm the only one who knows my info beside them and I never logged on. Ill keep the updates coming :cool:

I wish I would have seen you ask this question before you tried the power lvling service.

I would have told you not to do it. Begged you even.

You should be happy it was only three days, assuming you get your account info back.

Ya, debating whether to let them try to finish or just stop them and try to get money back. There are no characters on the account so I could care less what happens to it.

I am very strongly against using services like this, but if the tip is already in, you may as well go balls deep.

At the very worst you're looking at losing 40 bucks and whatever it cost to hire the services.

I hate to say it but you were asking for it. :thumbsup:

I agree. Those lvling services use your account all the time to spam for other people for them to offer their services to. Just as bad are the Gold sellers who can really screw up a servers economy. I say do just what was intended, and that is to play the game, and build yourself up naturally.

I PvP on a rogue/priest/warlock.

With the baby and all I had kind of lost some of my pvp arena teams since I could not play as hardcore. Still can get back on almost any of those teams thankfully, due to my reputation. A good druid transferred in who I knew from arena, and we started doing 2s (with my lock), so far we are 53-1, longest match was against a horde team better racials, and my partner had forgotten to respec right but after 2 hours we pulled through insane fight. Waiting for wowarmory to update, but we should be in 8th spot after just 2 weeks, and looking great for the rest of the season.

Now if I can only find a good rogue for my 3s team, a great rogue is rare and so easy for them to mess up, but if you get the right one, watch out!

I just been loving this and can not wait for the next expansion see the new pvp content.

Ha ha ha ha wow. 2 hour arena fight...now that's epic. My longest was a 30 minute fight 2v2. My warrior and a paladin versus a hunter and paladin. That 30 minutes seemed like 5 minutes.......we won, but it was so damn close. My 100 rage execute landed else it would have been all over (the previous 3 executes did crap damage, not enough to finish him off).

I love it when I see a 4k execute flash up on the screen

They're really dumbing down raid management in wotlk. It's not necessarily a bad thing. It will help guilds that don't have the right classes to make a good raid setup, but it's really going to change how people min/max raids and I think it's even going to change how people spec. example: I'm a BM hunter, I raid 100% of the time with a ret pally. I'll have Furious Inspiration, He'll have Sanctified Retribution. Both spells do the same thing, They don't stack. In this case, FI is a pre-req to another needed talent so the Ret pally could put his talent point somewhere else. It's going to be interesting.

I just cannot imagine how the change is a bad thing. It all looks weird and scary now, but the bottom line is that raid stacking to min/max is not fun and not productive. My guild (Drama-Korgath, US) went through nearly 60 (!!!) people trying to clear sunwell, and we had weeks where progression essentially halted because we were down a shaman or a shadow priest or a protection paladin.

It's nothing but a hassle to try to put together "ideal" raids for Sunwell. It's not fun, it's wrecked or halted the progression of a lot of guilds. I think this is a fantastic change for promoting more fun, more player skill and more flexibility. I don't think it's going to end up hurting or burdening any classes in the long run after they get everything put together and polished for raiding at 80.

Lol .. I sort of miss hard-core raiding. It was way better in the 40-man days. We cleared every raid instance in my guild - and we had our share of difficulty finding the perfect class/spec balance for raids from time to time. The introduction of 25-man raids made min/max class balance too tight.

WoW will burn soon enough :o .. that is once people realize how its really World of Grindcraft. I'm just shocked that people play between the expansion announcement date and the actual release date. Didn't anyone learn from TBC? Your top-tier gear is worthless at level 72-73 .. how sweet is that?

Eh, my warrior was able to use his T3 gear in instances until he reached 70. But, that was only the grind.

Yeah, able to use it for the grind.

But during the grind you'll find pieces that will match your t3 gear, and for quite a bit less of hassle.


Personally, I think WoW's time had come around when TBC came out. Time for new concepts. Away with the grind I say!

WoW would be better (and I would still be playing) if raiding was never put in the game. It is absolutely absurd that in order to get the best of gear you have to play the game for 3-10 hours at a time. I don't mind playing a game 15 or 20 hours a week, I mind playing it for 10 hours STRAIGHT (and I actually don't mind it, but my wife does, and everyone else in my family).

I remember WoW when UBRS was considered the top end dungeon and raiding didn't even exist. Those were the truly fun times...when you could get the best gear in the game from 5-man dungeons that only took 1-3 hours and could be done with a circle of friends. That and open-world PVP were what made WoW awesome. Now it's just raid, get better gear, walk around in IF, raid, walk around in IF with new items, raid, etc. There is no game to WoW except raiding.

I guess it all boils down to WoW being so focused on gear (which I don't really know how to get around). I wish it were more based on equal(ish) gear and skill based so that PVP was skill and teamwork instead of who has the best epics. I'm still waiting for an MMORPG that doesn't force you to put 10 hours at a time into a game in order to progress your character.

I won't lie, I used to play WoW 50 hours a week, helped my guild get to the top 1% of our server, had an orange (Legendary) weapon on my warrior and over 70 epics before BC came out. It was fun then but look at the life I led. I gained 70 fucking pounds and flushed away my college years and almost ruined my relationship with my now wife. WoW is a great game but it needs to be steered towards 5-man group content only if you ask me.

Agreed. I hate raiding. Won't do it. I tried some of the smaller raids like AQ20, but I just don't have the patience to sit there for hours and listen to people blather on about who needs to do what. It gets really overly complicated with too many people. But some of my favorite group experiences are from LBRS and UBRS. :) Had some really fun fights there. I wouldn't mind for 5-man group content, simply because I can put together a 5-man group of real life friends pretty easily.

My SO used to be big into raiding and was a raid officer for one of the most advanced guilds on our server, but it took so much time away from everything else that he decided it wasn't worth it. Now he sticks to arenas with friends and BGs with friends, because he can do those and be done with them fairly quickly.

As for the time between now and WoTLK, I'm spending it leveling up my first warlock (human), who I abandoned when TBC came out to roll another warlock (Blood Elf) on another server (Tichondrius). I transferred the human warlock to another server (Llane) that my friends actually play on, and have been working on getting her to 70. I'm not in any real rush, as her tradeskills had been horribly neglected and need work, so I've been doing a lot of fishing. :) I love fishing.

I don't even know what a raid is yet. This thread has revealed to me how I've barely managed to scratch the surface of WoW. All I can say, is that I'll rarely play more than 2 or 3 hours at a time. I don't even care about having the best items in the game. I just want to have fun exploring the world and killing monsters. I know WoW isn't the optimal game for me, but I'm giving it a try. I think I'd like a more sandbox type of game. I just know little about the MMORPGs out there. WoW was the easy choice in terms of popularity and knowing people who are already playing.

You don't need to take advantage of all aspects of the game to enjoy it. At least, I don't. I'm sure I'll get bored with it eventually, but I'm giving it a 6-month run.

You don't HAVE to play 10 hours straight, 5 days a week to progress pretty far. We did 3 nights a week, 4 hour raids and would be clearing at least 1 boss Sunwell right now if Summer + wotlk hadn't killed raiding for my whole server. We didn't get any server firsts but those guilds that were ahead of us respected us because we didn't get stuck on any bosses, except for Maulgar of course... They might have cleared BT a few months before us but comparing how much farther they are and how much time they've invested in raiding, They've probably raided hundreds of more hours than us yet they were only 2-3 bosses ahead when raiding died.

The problem for me isn't how much time it takes, It's that you can't organize a raid, especially a progression raid at a time that doesn't conflict with quality real life time. When people are available to raid in game it usually means people are available to hang out in real life and THAT's a problem.

Just to overwhelm you with information, raids are the "hardest" pve content in the game. They're designed for 10, 25 or 40 (pre-expansion WoW only) level-capped players. Success in raids requires strategy and teamwork and lots of hours spent figuring out what to do. And yeah, it's a huge time sink!

10-mans are being designed to last an hour, and the badge and pvp gear go a long way to alleviate the need for raids.

That said - those that -do- have the time and inclination to work to the 25-man raids should have the best gear, there can be no argument about that. You can still get very good gear and never step foot in a raid. An example for warlocks but it's the same for all classes.

Where did you hear that 10 mans are being designed to last an hour? I know for a fact that is wrong. 5 mans are being designed to be <1 hour for non-heroic and about an hour for heroic.

I'm playing a 70 Undead Warlock on Kargath. It's good times if not a little bit boring right now. My guild is finally starting to recruit for 25-man raids thank god. I was getting so sick of Kara and Heroics.

So who here is on the Dragonblight Server like me?

I heard it waaay back, so if you know otherwise you're probably right :P