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Old 11-23-2004, 02:54 PM   #321 (permalink)
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Well, i'm borrowing the game from a friend and all i can say is: How many thumbs do the rockstar developers have??

First they remove the abilty to control cars with the dpad, then they expect us to use the left thumbstick, the right thumbstick and the buttons all at the same time!! Pityful..
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Old 11-23-2004, 04:54 PM   #322 (permalink)
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How come no one told me that flight school would be so damned hard? I can take-off, land, and fly straight, but when it comes to flying through the checkpoints and turning, I completely suck! I can at most get through three checkpoints but after that my plane starts spinning and going every which way. The kicker is you HAVE to do it to move on.
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Old 11-23-2004, 06:34 PM   #323 (permalink)
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Where is flight school? when can i go there?
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Old 11-23-2004, 09:43 PM   #324 (permalink)
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It'll come within the missions. You'll see.
Spoiler: Las Venturas
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Old 11-24-2004, 04:07 AM   #325 (permalink)
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The flight school just takes practice. Turning involves more banking than using the rudder, the rudder if for sharp turns. Always remember to keep your plane horizantal after a turn. If your plane is horizontal, that will stablize it. Also, remember to take up your landing gear.
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Old 11-24-2004, 04:16 AM   #326 (permalink)
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Well, I had a similar problem. My advice is thisSpoiler: Just keep trying. Try at different times, and go out and do Cesar's missions/firefighing mission/whatever in between. I went to her house between just about every Las Venturas mission, and eventually she was home. One option is to just shoot the bitch, once you find her. Then you can break into her house and get the card (or so I've heard).
I've had the same problem. I just gave up. Must have spent 2 days there waiting for her to show up.
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Old 11-24-2004, 06:02 AM   #327 (permalink)
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CityOfAngels: Flying the first plane is tough. Remember to use the rudder controls (L2 and R2) more than the analog stick, and don't overcorrect. Try to keep the plane level. It really does get easier. I struggled with flight school, and then my buddy beat it while I was away. I went back after having flown a lot for the later missions to get better medals and the school was much easier, not only because I was better at flying but also because CJ was.

lukethebandgeek: do you mean you just skipped that aspect of the game? I really don't want to do that.
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Old 11-24-2004, 07:29 AM   #328 (permalink)
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I've had the same problem. I just gave up. Must have spent 2 days there waiting for her to show up.
I had this problem too so i bought the safe house closest to her's. Then i'd go to her house and if she wasn't there i'd go save which would advance the game 6 hours or so. Then i'd go back and try again. I had to do this maybe 4 or 5 times til she finally showed up.

Also about taking over gang territory:

Spoiler: I wouldn't bother taking over gang territory before moving out of Los Santos. My roomate took over all the territory before advancing and when he got back to Los Santos toward the end of the game all the gang territory was back and he had to do it all over again.
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Old 11-25-2004, 05:33 PM   #329 (permalink)
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You dont need to do flight school to fly..
take a car to the airport, hop out and jump ontop of your car. climb the wall and go into the hangar. Jump in a plane and fly it around..

You only need about 20% experience flying to move on..

Voila! no need for flight school!
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Old 11-25-2004, 10:38 PM   #330 (permalink)
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AFAIK: Spoiler: you need to finish flight school before moving onto the Toreno/Truth missions at Verdant Meadows, and eventually gaining it as an asset/base for all manner of flying machines

Flight school really sucks though if your flying skill is low, turning the plane through the coronas is like flying a freight train.
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Old 11-25-2004, 11:44 PM   #331 (permalink)
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Maybe i should use Puetetre's idea to build up my flying skill and then try the flight school. Thanks for all the ideas, guys!
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Old 11-27-2004, 10:58 AM   #332 (permalink)
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I seriously have worries about Rockstar's ability to design games. Sure, the game is fun, but there are so many annoying parts that it becomes just a 'good' game.
Take the highways for example, how crappy is the driving of the computer cars? It's disgraceful. Your driving a delicate truck down the road and all of a sudden a vehicle decides it wants the same lane as you.
I stopped at a motel by the side of the highway, after a few seconds there was a huge pileup at the entrance. Seems they can only handle the few seconds of driving and go crazy at other times.
Now, i'm not sure how much of San Andreas is based on real life, but it was also slightly annoying when i set out a nice route for my truck mission, only to find i got stuck in a tunnel!

But, the main annoying thing, is the camera (and controls in general), it's just too damn low. I'm going over a hill and can't see what's infront of me, when i'm driving an expensive car, i need to fiddle with the view to make sure i'm not going to hit something. You can get around it by holding the left thumbstick up a bit as your drive, but i'd much prefer it to be set like that. There is no drawback to the extra height, as the horizon is still on your screen.

Oh, and the draw distance sucks and cars still dissapear when you change your view. But that's to be expected on an ageing console.


On the more strange side of things: I just came out of a burger joint in San Fiero to see a plane exploding down the street! Rather odd. And there was that truck that was doing a permanent front wheelie...
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Old 11-27-2004, 03:59 PM   #333 (permalink)
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I am about ready to throw my control at the TV...

I'm STILL stuck in flight school, trying to "circle around the airstrip." Well, I FINALLY completed it, and I was all excited and happy....but no, I got 0% because it took me 116 seconds. ARGH!!
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Old 11-27-2004, 09:26 PM   #334 (permalink)
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I've been thinking about the characters in the game....

The two Brits are obvious pisstakes of Oasis.

Ken Rosenberg... am I the only one who thinks he's based on Larry David ? I swear that "Do you like my shirt ?" comment was taken straight from an episode of Curb your Enthusiasm.

OG Loc... a pisstake of 50 Cent ? Or a more general pisstake of gangsta rappers ?
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Old 11-28-2004, 01:35 PM   #335 (permalink)
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Just got the game on Friday. Ignored all the side mission stuff and started doing "real missions". A lot of them probably would have been easier if I had a better weapon than the pistol, and if I had bothered to find an armor vest. I'm at a point where the only "real mission" I can do is for Jeffery (OG Loc). It may be time to do some side missions 'cause having $3 sucks (lost 2 grand betting on slow horses), and more guns would help.
Does getting a tattoo eventually come back to haunt you? I noticed that there is a remove tattoo option at the tatoo artist's and figured it's probably there for a reason.
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Old 11-28-2004, 01:38 PM   #336 (permalink)
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No, I don't think tattoos mean anything (other than boosting your sex appeal and maybe respect).

I liked the fact that it was so difficult for CJ to learn to fly. He's a ghetto boy, what the hell does he know about planes? Just stick with it. Plus, if you fail a few times you get to hear Toreno just rip into you with the patented James Woods verbal abuse. I especially liked Harry Horsecock.

The absolute hardest part of the game is the second mission in the Zero strand, "Supply Lines". Controlling the little RC plane is difficult, but you can master it. Even so, you still have to get lucky to finish the mission within the time limit.

Overall, an excellent game. This is the one that pushes the PS2 to its absolute limit. I expect that the next GTA game will be on a new system (XBOX 2?) with a new engine.
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Old 11-28-2004, 08:32 PM   #337 (permalink)
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Ken Rosenberg was definitely based on Sean Penn's classic David Klienfeld character in Carlito's Way, this much I know...
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Old 11-29-2004, 01:25 AM   #338 (permalink)
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Ken Rosenberg was definitely based on Sean Penn's classic David Klienfeld character in Carlito's Way, this much I know...
You reckon ?

He looks EXACTLY like Larry David.

Tatts add respect and sex appeal, although sometimes your homies and random civs will mock you for them "have you been drawing on yourself again CJ?".

I got tattoos all over, except the abs, not really keen on getting a grove street logo tattoed over the sixpack.
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Old 11-29-2004, 11:03 PM   #339 (permalink)
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All i have to say is its fun
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Old 11-30-2004, 02:51 PM   #340 (permalink)
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Haven't been able to play it in like 2 weeks! I want to! now!!!
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Old 12-01-2004, 04:02 AM   #341 (permalink)
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This game never ceases to amaze me really...

I mean, is there any other game where you can spend the evening beating hookers to death with a dildo, then cruise on back to your crib and take your badarse nitro car out racing?

Has anyone even attempted the freight train missions? They seem awfully difficult, I just derailed for the fun of it...
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Old 12-01-2004, 04:04 AM   #342 (permalink)
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You reckon ?

He looks EXACTLY like Larry David.
Sorry, my bad, allow me to clarify, I meant, in Vice City.
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Old 12-01-2004, 06:53 AM   #343 (permalink)
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How to do the freight train mission easily. Sort of cheating but not really.

Spoiler: Keep the speed below 45. 45=derailment, 44= O.K. My braking technique was to keep the speed at roughly 10% of the distince. i.e: 300m to go, speed=30, 150m to go, speed=15 until the last 50m or so, keep at speed=5 and stop in the red thingy. Don't overshoot because reversing is slooooow.
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Old 12-01-2004, 08:32 AM   #344 (permalink)
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I agree with jwoody's assessment of the train missions. That was the strategy I had worked out, with a slightly lower top speed.
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Old 12-01-2004, 07:39 PM   #345 (permalink)
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The improvements in this game are amazing! I just bought this game a few days ago and i've been on it forever! Its totally huge! Big map, so many more details like appearance. I mean, now there are so many more stuff to do like playing pool, gym and such. But... Is it getting too complex?
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Old 12-02-2004, 12:36 AM   #346 (permalink)
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too complex?..........that's what I'm thinking

I love the game, but it just doesnt have the same feel of gta 3 and vice city, it's just getting too real, not the same "game" sort of feeling the others had/have



also seems to be getting too far away form the very first gta games as well with the whole south central gangster element, doesnt seem to blend with the others like it should (not the gang element itself, obviously, just the way it's portrayed). although i'm sure this is the games major selling point, especially to those not really familiar with the series.
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Old 12-02-2004, 02:23 PM   #347 (permalink)
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well I actually like the incorporation of the whole SoCal, Crips vs. Bloods (here Grove Gang vs Ballaz), gangsta/thug all that stuff...because the golden age of "gangstas" is after all around 1992...
and I was getting sick of VC being too Scarface oriented..and too many Italian mafia people in GTA3(and Italian mafia is too cliche)..
Well maybe its because I appreciate rap and hip hop.. but....yeah
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Old 12-03-2004, 12:27 AM   #348 (permalink)
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I heard there's a clothing shop where you can buy underwear, so you can change them whenever you go swimming to prevent the "You wearin' a diaper!?" comments. Anyone know where to get 'em?
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Old 12-03-2004, 08:59 AM   #349 (permalink)
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Zero's missions are really pissing me off. I did the first one (took me about 10 tries) and I've made like 4 attempts at his second one. I don't even want to think about the last one.
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Old 12-03-2004, 01:40 PM   #350 (permalink)
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Old 12-04-2004, 09:31 PM   #351 (permalink)
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Zero's missions are really pissing me off. I did the first one (took me about 10 tries) and I've made like 4 attempts at his second one. I don't even want to think about the last one.
The last one is actually the easiest of all of them, IMHO.
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Old 12-05-2004, 12:04 PM   #352 (permalink)
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IMHO means? In my holy opinion? In my humble opinion? hrmmm..
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Old 12-05-2004, 12:20 PM   #353 (permalink)
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It means quit being a biznatch.
Yes, it means "In My Humble Opinion." You can also look at it literally and they'll be saying "I'm Ho," whatever that means.
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Old 12-06-2004, 02:01 AM   #354 (permalink)
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I've finished the game but I thought I'd get Zero's missions.

I've had about 5 goes at them.

The fucker never said anything about returning the plane home!!!! I was literally 10m away from the circle when I ran out of fuel, what a rip, I could have easily coasted there
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Old 12-06-2004, 08:27 AM   #355 (permalink)
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It took a bunch of tries but I finally got 'Supply Lines' done. fhqwhgads was right, his last mission was a piece of cake. I also got all golds in Driving School last night. 'City Slicking' was a pain in the ass. I had no problem getting a low enough time to get the 100% but I'd always nick something along the way. I did it for over an hour straight.
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Old 12-06-2004, 04:21 PM   #356 (permalink)
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i would have to say that the stupid mission with the red baron i was losing my hair it took me like 20 tries but i eventually got it, driving school was tough too i'm trying to get all golds but that city slickin mission is just too damn hard however i did get all golds in the flight school the destroy targets was the hardest. i also did boat school, so there's just bike school and whatever other school that there is, oh yeah has anyone got all of the cars for the first list at the docks???? and if so can u tell me where u found the remington, patriot, and camper....i think the camper is on the highway down by angel pine i could be wrong,.
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Old 12-06-2004, 08:39 PM   #357 (permalink)
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Remington - Badarse lowrider thing with fins, I've seen em around Grove St.

Patriot - There's one in the naval base if you're game, I've also seen one parked outside a food place in Venturas.

Camper, these suckers are all over San Fierro in the hippy districts.

In other news, I'm curious to know what you guys deck your character out in. Any good clothing combinations you can reccomend. Currently, since I'm engaging in an all out street war, I've got CJ in a 'Battle of Algiers' getup: Khakis, aviators, red beret and a lot of weapons. But when I'm doing business I prefer the tweed suit, spats and dark trilby - you get a pimping cane too!
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Old 12-06-2004, 09:10 PM   #358 (permalink)
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Spartak: if you don't finish Zero's missions, you can't do the Heist, can you?
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Old 12-06-2004, 09:35 PM   #359 (permalink)
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I don't have this game, but a friend does and everytime I go visit I play this game. Trying to play Vice City after San Andreas is like trying to play Everquest after playing WoW. Just completely different and alot better.
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Old 12-06-2004, 11:33 PM   #360 (permalink)
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In other news, I'm curious to know what you guys deck your character out in. Any good clothing combinations you can reccomend. Currently, since I'm engaging in an all out street war, I've got CJ in a 'Battle of Algiers' getup: Khakis, aviators, red beret and a lot of weapons. But when I'm doing business I prefer the tweed suit, spats and dark trilby - you get a pimping cane too!
I always put on the best chain and the best watch available.

For the last part of the game CJ rocked a proper mob suit which cost me over $15k from DS. I had the tweed pants and jacket with the blue and black boat hat.

At the start I had him in a combat jacket and green jeans (for the grove!).

At SF I had him in beige Kahkis, a black sunhat, some shades, and a Jerry Rice 49ers top... well it looked EXACTLY like a 49ers top, minus the logo, although it did have a certain #80 on the back and the white bands on the sleeves, I think I got it from BinCo in SF... or maybe it was a Zip.

I did some of LV in the forementioned top, but when I got back to LS I got me a LV Bandits baseball jersey and some better shoes, the spats from DS.

I also bought heaps of random clothes, my clothing budget is well over 45k

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Spartak: if you don't finish Zero's missions, you can't do the Heist, can you?
I did. He still said something about Berkley and I was like.. uhuh.

In other news I just finished the Zero missions. The last one was actually fun and not stupid and annoying like the others.
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