LaZy

Call of Duty TDM has rotating spawn points. Every game should have that option.

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Apokx

I spawn kill,I do it often.

Dont hate the player,hate the game.

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GakFace

Hate the game? What the hell? I don't hate the game, The game is good. Its plaers that spawn kill that make it "LOOK" bad. Its still good, its the spawn killers that I hate.

Please explain why I shouldn't dislike you but the game.

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Kaos

I hope you are joking. What a stupid statement.

I don't spawn kill ever. If someone happens to spawn in front of me, I will not fire unless they commence firing on me.

Right now, the only game I play online right now is Red Faction. Sure there are spawn killers in that game, just like every other game, but with Red Faction when you spawn you can get some pistol shots away before the enemy's shots do any damage.

Any Red Faction players out there?

Apokx

No,I'm not joking.
First of all,you're playing a game where the focus of said game is to A.Kill the other team B.Capture other team checkpoints..or likely C.Both A and B.

Well,with the other team spawning constantly from their base,there is barely any chance that a single player will be able to fend off an entire spawning team.

Instead of being an asshole,and saying my comment was stupid..take a moment to read what you said.

You play games that are based on player vs player..and you wait to see if another player is "ready" before firing? Manners,in a war game? I don't recall the last time a player said "Look out guys,I'm shooting a SCUD,hope you're ready!" in Desert Combat.

In fact,it sounds more like people who are concerned with keeping their scores higher than actually playing the game.

Cheating is one thing,but using the game's own rules to win a situation is hardly cause for bitching,moaning and otherwise hatred of other players.

Lastly,I've never been in a situation where I was pinned down at a spawn point for very long.Change your tactics,don't rush the same area every time..it isnt THAT hard to avoid it.

stinkynutz

I don't really care much for spawn raping. I used to do it back in Delta Force 2. But then thought it was kinda lame, especially when I could win the game and maintain a good body count regardless of whether I was spawn killing or not.
I don't complain about it b/c I usually don't get pinned down for that long. And if the other side abuses spawn raping, i'll return the favor.
but i can see how it would be difficult when there's only one spawn point.

but, in general, spawn raping doesn't even come close in lameness factor to cheating, such as using aimbots and wall hacks (CS 1.6 - steam)

Apokx

I totally agree stinky.

Lasereth

The point of Desert Combat is to gain flags, not just kill people. The team's first strategy is to get the flags. If the team has every flag, they're justified for going to the non-capturable spawn-point base. If you simply go and spawn kill, then your team will lose on a conquest Desert Combat map. It happens often. Snipers go and sit on their asses at the enemy base and their team ends up losing.

It happens all of the time in Desert Combat. An Apache or Littlebird or a UH-60 Blackhawk with a good gunner can base camp for the entire match if the opposing team has no good anti-armor players. Again -- I'm not saying that this is bad gameplay, I'm saying that it's not smart gameplay. Lighting up the enemy base with the Apache is perfectly acceptable if your team has all of the flags.

That's the exact definition of a spawn-killer. In Desert Combat, most people think they'll get more points spawn-killing than actually doing the objective (flags). Going for flags first will get you way more points than spawn-killing will.

-Lasereth

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jujueye

Nah, I hate it. I think some do it to easily up their kill points, and most likely just dont have the skills to take on a fully spawned opponent. I am far more impressed with people who never do it, and win fairly. THAT is impressive.

The only thing worse is being banned for being an SKer, and not actually having done it at all.......wtf???

bonehed1

If someone pisses me off I will spawn kill them over and over till they leave

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darkfalzsux

Spawn campers suck, end of story. As someone stated above, most of the time they can't win any other way, the only time I condone spawn camping is when someone does it to you, and most of the time that I spawn camp when they do it to me, they cry and leave the game, because there's no way they can get out of the base.

Caphreak

See, but if they cant win any other way, you should be able to spawn and kill them before they kill you, because youre implying a lack of skills on their part. There are countless strats to get around spawn campers, none that are overly complex.

MPower

I dont spawn camp, but I do make spawn strikes. If I can get to a spawn point, I try to kill them all for 1 spawn only then run away. It usually forces the other team to respawn there in hopes of getting me, but Im long gone, and my team can try to grab some unoccupied territory. And I do hate the actual campers. Kinda hypocritcal, I know, but I dont stay for more than one respawn per game.

GakFace

Read my First post. One Spawn point.. It was a CTF Map...You couldn't move before they were shooting at your head. Sometimes you can avoid them, but there are times you simply cannot avoid it. I dont' think you can call it a lack of skill when they are camping my only spawn point and shooting me dead with a PK Machine gun to the Head before I even have control to move.

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Apokx

Sometimes that happens,the other team completely dominates the map.I've been on the receiving end before,and no it isnt pretty.


That's how it should be though,take a good enough team and they will wipe the map clean.It's kind of illogical to think that a team shouldnt be able to take your base,because in reality..there would be no spawn points and your side would have lost.If spawn killing is cheating,then spawning is cheating.

They're fighting a near endless parade of soldiers spawning from one camp,they have limited ammo..armor/health..(Im thinking about Desert Combat when I see this scenario)
It would only be a matter of time before the enemy team just couldnt pin down 10 or so fresh players.They would either die/have to restock on ammunition.

Anyways,in Desert Combat..if it came down to one team being pinned to a final spawn point..their team points to drain to nothing and the map would change.In about five minutes.

GakFace

yes yes if you dominate the map you go after their base, but as i said,, it was Capture The Flag Map!!! The point wasn't to spawn kill... there was unlimited Lives... all it caused was for the map to take a full hour, with no action what so ever.. I'm not saying its wrong if you control the whole map.... when you have areas to control....... BUT if its a CTF game.... PLAY THE DAMN GAME.. that means go after the flag!!!

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Amarth

Personally, no I don't spawn kill, but that's because I am not good enough to get in that situation. It is a legit strategy because it takes strategy to get that deep into the enemy base where you can manage to set up spawn killing. I would say, the objective of both teams is to manage setting that type of situation up.

exponent_doobie

If a game is like that where there's only 1 spawn point, camping it would be the main objective while others run and cap the flag. It's the easiest way to win even though it's a pretty shitty way, but that's how it is, there's no way around it unless the game developers change a few things.

In SoF2 when people respawn they have a an invulnerability time period for whatever length the server has. This gives them some time but once they fire their weapon they're fair game. I've always liked that because in the game are incendiary grenades which they can toss into our spawn.

I don't like to spawncamp but you can't get around it because there are always those who will do whatever it takes to win the round and those who will just do it for their ratios.

mbchills

back in the dod 1.3b days in snowtown i used to spawn kill LOl it was soo omuch fun

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GakFace

Actually its not that hard to "sneak" into base. You can just drive a missle truck and tank over in some areas and just bomb the spawn point to death. Been there, done that... its too cheap. Many people will say its O.K. ONLY if All other bases are captured... but if you just spawn kill.. the enemy doesn't get a chance to do anything and then you can capture all the bases.. Is THIS your method of justifying the game? I'm sorry but I'm a gamer who still plays with Honor and Respect. If there's a new generation of gamers, then I'm glad I missed out, because killing people that can't defend themselves have yet to be anything to talk smack about, I don't care WHAT your ratio's might be. I can get someone while they're shooting at me... you on the other hand can kill someone who is in a coma. Oooh big ratios...


I have yet to understand why people think its "fun"....

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exponent_doobie

That's why I play other games that don't have a problem like that.