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hulk · 11-14-2006, 04:33 AM

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Originally Posted by THExBOY

[a lot of weird stuff]

Yeah... Buddy, it's obvious you like Nintendo and all, but saying junk like this doesn't help your cause at all.

And it's the GBA, not the DS, that's the best selling system ever.

THExBOY · 11-14-2006, 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by hulk

Yeah... Buddy, it's obvious you like Nintendo and all, but saying junk like this doesn't help your cause at all.

And it's the GBA, not the DS, that's the best selling system ever.

when did I post that that "a lot of weird stuff' it's not in MY post. so you must be mistaken

Redjake · 11-15-2006, 09:16 AM

Holy War Against Sony = Activated.

I just stopped by GameStop, and I won't get a PS3 on launch day, I'll have to wait to the mystical "sometime before Christmas" shipment to get mine. Even though I have an initial preorder. And have it paid in full. I get to wait. This makes me want to cancel the preorder, buy a 360 and get Gears of War.......

Darth_Kettch · 11-15-2006, 09:22 AM

Wii for me, anxiously awaiting the European launch... Looking very much forward to the Virtual Console and nostalgic gaming with my brother this Christmas

bookerV · 11-16-2006, 08:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Redjake

Holy War Against Sony = Activated.

I just stopped by GameStop, and I won't get a PS3 on launch day, I'll have to wait to the mystical "sometime before Christmas" shipment to get mine. Even though I have an initial preorder. And have it paid in full. I get to wait. This makes me want to cancel the preorder, buy a 360 and get Gears of War.......

Come to the dark side! GoW = Most fun game ever

Cynthetiq · 11-16-2006, 09:04 AM

eeh I don't care. The next gens are all over priced hardware and overpriced games.

I'm a bargain shopper. I'll wait until I find it at a bargain. I said that about Gamecube/PS2 and I still don't own one.

Esoteric · 11-16-2006, 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Redjake

Holy War Against Sony = Activated.

I just stopped by GameStop, and I won't get a PS3 on launch day, I'll have to wait to the mystical "sometime before Christmas" shipment to get mine. Even though I have an initial preorder. And have it paid in full. I get to wait. This makes me want to cancel the preorder, buy a 360 and get Gears of War.......

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GameStop not getting enough PS3s to fill preorders
Retailer's launch allocations not expected to cover original batch of reservations; employees "asked" to wait until second shipment to buy systems.
By Brendan Sinclair, GameSpot
Posted Nov 13, 2006 12:28 pm PT

Last month, retailer GameStop began accepting "limited" preorders for the PlayStation 3, asking customers to put down $100 in advance for the system, with a modest expectation of eight units per store in most cases. Now it appears the largest gaming specialty chain in North America won't be receiving even that many systems.

A GameStop representative told GameSpot today that the company received launch allocation numbers from Sony, and that it won't be able to fill its existing PS3 preorders. The representative declined to comment on how many systems GameStop expected to receive, or how short of that figure the company's share of systems would be.

"We are beginning to notify our customers that our initial shipment of PS3 systems will not be what we expected," the representative said. "As this is not an ideal situation, we are asking employees to wait to purchase systems until the second shipment. We are anticipating having systems to cover reservations before Christmas."

For launch day, preorders will be filled in the order they were received, and those who had a preorder but are denied a system on day one will receive something for their troubles. GameStop will give those unfortunate customers (as well as unfortunate employees) a free used game or DVD valued at $19.99 or less when they eventually wind up purchasing the system.

Those who reserved a system won't need to wait long to find out if they can expect a system on launch day. Starting tomorrow, customers who preordered a PS3 will be contacted personally by phone and updated on the status of their reservation, the rep said.

And while it might be a nonissue considering the clamor for consumers to get their hands on the coveted systems, GameStop is also asking anyone with a confirmed preorder to pick their systems up by Saturday evening.

Link: http://www.gamespot.com/news/6161580...stnews;title;4

When I went to pick up my copy of Gears of War last week I was talking with one of the employees at EBGames and they were saying to not even bother with the PS3 as it's a waste of money, lol. I'd say get a 360 and Gears of War imo.

Edit: Messed the link up.

YaWhateva · 11-16-2006, 02:56 PM

Why in the hell would you trust an EBGames employee? haha Nearly everyone I have ever talked to was a brain dead fanboy, usually of the XBox.

But damn, I am being swayed heavily by Gears of War.

Esoteric · 11-16-2006, 04:31 PM

I didn't need to trust him. I already knew myself that the PS3 was going to be a waste of money.

Carno · 11-16-2006, 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by THExBOY

I could talk for hours on this topic. but I will try to keep it short.
for those saying that Sony and Microsoft have been outselling Nintendo, it has not. they may have outsold the gamecube but Nintendo has sold more DS's then any other system ever. handheld or consol. Nintendo has beed makeing money year after year while Sony and Microsoft have been loseing money with there systems. The only reson they are still around is because they are just a small part of large corperations.

The fact that PS3 and X-Box 360 have HD meand nothing. They are just like there previos systems with beeft up graphics. Almost all the games that I've seen for PS3 or X-Box have looked like all the other games they put out on there previus systems. While the Wii is trying to appiel to a hole new demographic. They are pulling in the casual gammers while still appeling to the hard-core gammer.

The Wii is also giveing us free online gameing (like they did with the DS) and they have the capasity to bring the DS into the Wii games. like they did with FFCC and Zelda Four Swords on GC.

The one thing that I did not see mentiond is that The Wii will have no load times in there games. They have is setup so that all the Wiis that are online will feed off eachother. When your system is not in use it will be connectied to all the others over the nintendo WIFI incrasing the systems speed and power.

sorry for the long rant but ther was so much to talk about.

Wow.. one of us has to be smoking crack, and I don't think it's me..............

YaWhateva · 11-16-2006, 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Esoteric

I didn't need to trust him. I already knew myself that the PS3 was going to be a waste of money.

<3 forever

Sgoilear · 11-16-2006, 06:49 PM

If Nintendo can deliver a set of good games that are fun to play I think they'll come out the big winners. I don't see Sony or Microsoft losing sales so much as I see Nintendo sneaking in the back door with a product that can appeal to the entire family. Fun games with a wide appeal (even if they don't have the mindblowing graphics that the 360 or the PS3 can crank out) combined with a relatively low price could pick Nintendo up some market share.

Also with the Wii's development costs being significantly lower then the 360 or the PS3 gives it an edge. I still won't put it past Nintendo to blow a good thing though. They've done it before.

Redjake · 11-17-2006, 04:28 AM

Well if one thing is for certain, none of the Wii launch titles are smash hits yet. So let's hope for Zelda.

The reviews so far say that the games would be great if the Wii controller/remote actually functioned like it should and wasn't annoying. The reviews make it sound like the remote is not adding any value whatsoever. I hope this changes as the system matures.

Cynthetiq · 11-17-2006, 04:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Redjake

Well if one thing is for certain, none of the Wii launch titles are smash hits yet. So let's hope for Zelda.

The reviews so far say that the games would be great if the Wii controller/remote actually functioned like it should and wasn't annoying. The reviews make it sound like the remote is not adding any value whatsoever. I hope this changes as the system matures.

After watching some launch shows seeing people playing the nunchucks, I don't see how it will be something someone can play for 12 hours without being annoying that you can't just twitch buttons

treericetissue · 11-17-2006, 06:08 AM

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Lasereth · 11-17-2006, 06:09 AM

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I keep posting on my GF's name. Ha ha.

I've read a dozen or so reviews of 3 or 4 Wii launch games and a good portion of them are saying that the motion sensor in the controller just doesn't work as it should. They're saying that in some cases it's not sensitive enough (without an option to change it) and that some games (especially Call of Duty 3 and Dowhill Jam) would have been better with a standard controller. I even read that the controller doesn't work good enough to even play some aspects of the games (some bad enough that Call of Duty 3's grapple function only works 50% of the time). I like Nintendo's ambitious tendencies, but they better start making sure their motion sensor works 100% of the time with better than analog accuracy or it's just dead weight.

What is also interesting is many reports are stating that Wii's graphics are somewhere in between PS2 and XBox. That's right, some games don't even look like XBox graphics, much less XBox 360 or next-gen. Argue if you want, but that's freaking stupid. I watched some Wii videos and I definitely had a hard time believing the games were supposed to be next-gen. At least it has Zelda.

Not that much of it matters since most of the games on PS3 and Wii are getting lackluster reviews (besides Resistance: Fall of Man and Zelda).

hulk · 11-17-2006, 06:48 AM

You do try hard to hate the Wii, Lasereth

It's based on Gamecube hardware, 360-like or even Xbox-like graphics were never promised. Nintendo have basically said straight out not to expect graphical power, so why keep bringing it up? You get what you pay for, and you're not paying for a tri-core processor with half a gig of RAM.

Now, they're saying in _some_ cases it's not sensetive enough? You should know enough about games to realise that points to a problem with the developer, not the hardware. I've read nothing but praise for Zelda's control. The game you're playing doesn't change the data that goes from the controller to the Wii, it's what the game does with it that matters. It will be some time before it's used properly. It was the same with the DS, it was the same with the 360's graphical power, it'll be the same with the PS3's sixaxis.

Most of the games on the 360 have lackluster reviews, too, and that's a year after launch

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Originally Posted by Cynthetiq

After watching some launch shows seeing people playing the nunchucks, I don't see how it will be something someone can play for 12 hours without being annoying that you can't just twitch buttons

I don't see how someone can play for 12 hours with a normal controller without having some serious problems *grin* Fifteen minutes on my 360's D-Pad and my thumb starts to hurt.

Lasereth · 11-17-2006, 01:35 PM

Well of course it's the games' problem. That doesn't change the fact that those games are for the Wii, and they're not working properly, and Nintendo's biggest selling point is the controller working properly.

I have nothing against the Wii, I'm just annoyed at how people say the Wii will win the console war because it's the best console because it's $250 and soo cheap and because it's innovative when there's huge trade-offs for all of it. Cheaper = not next-gen graphics. Innovation = risk. I want the Wii to do good, just as I want all consoles to do well, but I'm not going to blindly follow any console until it has proven itself.

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11-15-2006, 09:16 AM	#43 (permalink)
Redjake I'm a family man - I run a family business. Location: Wilson, NC	Holy War Against Sony = Activated. I just stopped by GameStop, and I won't get a PS3 on launch day, I'll have to wait to the mystical "sometime before Christmas" shipment to get mine. Even though I have an initial preorder. And have it paid in full. I get to wait. This makes me want to cancel the preorder, buy a 360 and get Gears of War....... __________________ Off the record, on the q.t., and very hush-hush.

11-16-2006, 09:04 AM	#46 (permalink)
Cynthetiq Tilted Cat Head Administrator Location: Manhattan, NY	eeh I don't care. The next gens are all over priced hardware and overpriced games. I'm a bargain shopper. I'll wait until I find it at a bargain. I said that about Gamecube/PS2 and I still don't own one. __________________ I don't care if you are black, white, purple, green, Chinese, Japanese, Korean, hippie, cop, bum, admin, user, English, Irish, French, Catholic, Protestant, Jewish, Buddhist, Muslim, indian, cowboy, tall, short, fat, skinny, emo, punk, mod, rocker, straight, gay, lesbian, jock, nerd, geek, Democrat, Republican, Libertarian, Independent, driver, pedestrian, or bicyclist, either you're an asshole or you're not. What's the best nation in the world? DO-NATION!

11-16-2006, 02:56 PM	#48 (permalink)
YaWhateva Friend Location: New Mexico	Why in the hell would you trust an EBGames employee? haha Nearly everyone I have ever talked to was a brain dead fanboy, usually of the XBox. But damn, I am being swayed heavily by Gears of War. __________________ “If the Americans go in and overthrow Saddam Hussein and it's clean, he has nothing, I will apologize to the nation, and I will not trust the Bush administration again.” - Bill O'Reilly "This is my United States of Whateva!"

11-16-2006, 04:31 PM	#49 (permalink)
Esoteric Tired Location: Florida	I didn't need to trust him. I already knew myself that the PS3 was going to be a waste of money. __________________ From a head full of pressure rests the senses that I clutch Made a date with Divinity, but she wouldn't let me fuck I got touched by a hazy shaded, God help me change Caught a rush on the floor from the life in my veins

11-15-2006, 09:22 AM	#44 (permalink)
Darth_Kettch Insane Location: Norway	Wii for me, anxiously awaiting the European launch... Looking very much forward to the Virtual Console and nostalgic gaming with my brother this Christmas

11-16-2006, 06:49 PM	#52 (permalink)
Sgoilear Tilted Location: Colorado	If Nintendo can deliver a set of good games that are fun to play I think they'll come out the big winners. I don't see Sony or Microsoft losing sales so much as I see Nintendo sneaking in the back door with a product that can appeal to the entire family. Fun games with a wide appeal (even if they don't have the mindblowing graphics that the 360 or the PS3 can crank out) combined with a relatively low price could pick Nintendo up some market share. Also with the Wii's development costs being significantly lower then the 360 or the PS3 gives it an edge. I still won't put it past Nintendo to blow a good thing though. They've done it before. __________________ "People are always blaming their circumstances for what they are. I don't believe in circumstances. The people who get on in this world are the people who get up and look for the circumstances they want, and, if they can't find them, make them." -George Bernard Shaw

11-17-2006, 04:28 AM	#53 (permalink)
Redjake I'm a family man - I run a family business. Location: Wilson, NC	Well if one thing is for certain, none of the Wii launch titles are smash hits yet. So let's hope for Zelda. The reviews so far say that the games would be great if the Wii controller/remote actually functioned like it should and wasn't annoying. The reviews make it sound like the remote is not adding any value whatsoever. I hope this changes as the system matures. __________________ Off the record, on the q.t., and very hush-hush.

11-17-2006, 06:08 AM	#55 (permalink)
treericetissue Upright	EDIT*****

11-17-2006, 01:35 PM	#58 (permalink)
Lasereth Knight of the Old Republic Location: Winston-Salem, NC	Well of course it's the games' problem. That doesn't change the fact that those games are for the Wii, and they're not working properly, and Nintendo's biggest selling point is the controller working properly. I have nothing against the Wii, I'm just annoyed at how people say the Wii will win the console war because it's the best console because it's $250 and soo cheap and because it's innovative when there's huge trade-offs for all of it. Cheaper = not next-gen graphics. Innovation = risk. I want the Wii to do good, just as I want all consoles to do well, but I'm not going to blindly follow any console until it has proven itself. __________________ "A Darwinian attacks his theory, seeking to find flaws. An ID believer defends his theory, seeking to conceal flaws." -Roger Ebert