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Well, the 360 is already out, but what are your opinions on which console will win the next gen race? I work at EB games and the majority of peopel who come in are looking for a Wii. I believe the Wii will dominate the market this generation. What do you think?

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I'm a PlayStation guy, and while I don't see myself buying a next generation console, I think Sony will retain a lot of consumers, despite the high price. If I did go next gen, I'd get a PS3.

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Gilda

The Wii is the only one of those I'll be interested in playing, so that's the one I chose.

Gilda

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Karby

well, i already own a 360, and i'd love to pick up a ps3 when the price drops to something reasonably sane.
the wii though, has grabbed my interest. so yea, i'll be picking that one up this november, hopefully.

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I'm not sure developers will know how to take advantage of the Wii's unique gameplay. It will be so much cheaper and more tempting to just port games from the other systems over with different control schemes than to spend the time and money on tweaking games for the system.

In the end every generation comes down to one thing: The games.

Aro23

i'll get the ps3 maybe after a year. it also has a higher capacity on the blu-ray disc so that might be used to better achieve their goals on a game

Esoteric

Same. I have a feeling though that despite all the shit that Sony is going through atm with the PS3 that they will end up winning the race in the long run. I think the Wii will do very will in the beginning of the console wars though, with the 360 closing in right behind them. I'm so excited about Gears of War, I really hope it lives up to the hype.

I chose PS3 for the long run winner.

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I think the Wii for a couple reasons...

#1: I'm a Nintendo Fanboy heh.
#2 (real reason): I look at what the DS has done and how it has come into it's own. It started sort of slow and has built up a larger and larger momentum as more and more people (non-gamers) pick it up and start using it. I mean.. I watched my dad get one last month, and he hasn't bought/played a game console since the NES for us kids.

I think the Wii will go down a similar route... it will have the initial rush of gamers that makes it win in the short term, but then it's price will fall and it will look more attractive to non gamers (both via price and via word of mouth). It isn't hard to see what these new controllers can do (there are about 8 million youtube vids out there hehe), and I think some of the "non-game" things you can make with it (exercise "game", brainage-type game, etc) will make it more attractive to non-gamers.

I think trying to get non-gamers will be a good thing for Nintendo, like it was for the DS.

Redjake

The reason most people are looking for a Wii is because they can't afford a PlayStation 3. Simple as that.

I have both on preorder. Both will have knockout games, and both will be worth purchasing - if you have the financial resources. One will outsell the other in the long run, and sell more games - but does that make it a better system? Hard to tell!

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I'm sure the Wii will be the big winner this holiday season. It's cheap, it's family friendly and it's Nintendo. Did I mention it's cheap?

Personally, I had a hard time justifying my 360 purchase. It took four months and an unexpected bit of extra spending money to convince me to pick up a premium package and a couple of games.

I won't have such a problem with the Wii. $250 is quite a bit to spend on something as superfluous as a game console, but it's nothing compared to what Sony wants me to pony up right out of the gate.

I think the Wii will win the season. However, I think the Ps3 isn't going to lose much marketshare-wise despite the plethora of negative publicity the console has managed to garner over these last few months. Unless it's just the biggest hunk o'crap....ever, I don't see Sony being pushed aside for either Nintendo or *GASP Microsoft.

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Lasereth

Redjake is right. The only reason people are so excited about the Wii is its insanely low price. You also get less than the other systems, especially considering Nintendo has admitted that the Wii is "slightly" more powerful than the Gamecube, and whether anyone wants to admit or not, newer, better graphics do make up a large part of the excitement of next-gen systems.

Hard to tell which system will win, but Sony made videogames cool with the Playstation One, so the PS3 will do good no matter what.

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Latch

Surely you can't be serious

The Wii controller and all the new possible uses the new interface can have (I've heard the rumors of shinpads for kicking, as I'm guessing you have) has gotten many people excited about it... it's not just that they're going with a reasonable price.

And don't call me Shirley! hehe.

Manic_Skafe

Perhaps it's just me but despite the fact that the Wii seems interesting enough, it lacks that next-generation feel that the XBox 360 delivers and the PS3 promises. Just like with the PSP Vs. DS scenario - Sony offered much more than a gaming system at a higher price than the DS (and although they didn't succeed in crushing the IPod) they sold a sizable amount of units in and out of their usual demographic (despite the PSPs limited battery life, lack of several original/launch titles) - while with the DS, Nintendo offered little more than portability to those who weren't already gamers.

And although success doesn't equate to a good gaming system, your choice should be pretty easy once you take into account the fact that with the PS3s price tag of $499/$599 you're getting a really good discount on a next generation gaming system and a next generation DVD player (at their original release Blu-Ray DVD players were going for about $999) - while the Wii won't even be capable of playing standard DVDs.

It just seems pretty obvious which one would be the better investment.

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Gilda

It depends on your individual circumstances. We already have a HD-DVD player, so the DVD functionality is irrelevant, and the controller design on the Wii makes it a much better choice for me as an individual.

Gilda

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feelgood

Does the lineup of games affect your choice? I would find it amusing that somebody who is really into hardcore FPS game purchasing GameCube and realize that there's barely any game lined up for Cube with FPS genre.

Other than that, I'm kind of hardpressed to decide between PS3 and XBox 360 for one simple reason, the choices of game. I'm leding toward to PS3 due to its offering of free online gaming compared to XBox 360's monthly subscription, plus, there's gonna be armored core for PS3 and I can't miss that

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Nobody is set to 'win' the console war. Sony and Microsoft had market share but lost enormous amounts of money, and are shaping up to do the same thing this time around. Nintendo lost market share but made a profit regardless, shifting their attention to the handheld scene and consolidating their position.

Microsoft learned a lot about what gamers want, and despite the noisy buggy heavy metal box on offer they convinced me to buy a 360. Nintendo have taken a lesson from the DS' success and are planning to do the same thing. I would say that the large majority of Ninty's market doesn't care about graphics, and those that do can readily afford the Wii as a second console. Sony is being Sony - yet to surprise me, so I'm skipping their console until something does.

I really think that, if not this time around than the next, all three will be very close to a 33/33/33 split on marketshare, which is the best possible situation for us consumers.

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Lasereth

I really just can't get excited over the Wii's controller. Initital reports stated that the controller didn't work worth a crap in the new Metroid game, and a few others said that it didn't respond quickly enough in most games to be a true controller replacement. I hope that's fixed by now.

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Porkchop

Had my xbox 360 few months now. Wont be changing anytime soon.

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I'm with Porkchop, I've already got my 360, love it, and don't think I need another system, though I do really want to play the new zelda.

hulk

Read some updated previews, ones from later than E3 Gamespot has a few new ones up.

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I will be getting a Wii. Looks inovative. Perhaps we'll see some fresh new games and concepts and such.

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I haven't been into consoles in a really long time, but I don't think the PS3 is going to do well compared to the 360 and the Wii. Not only is the price for the PS3 ridiculous, but the choice of games, to me, seems a little lame. A lot of good titles that I've seen for the PS3 also have a port on the 360. As far as I can tell, the only games that the PS3 has a hold on is the Final Fantasy series and the MGS series.

As for the Wii, Nintendo not only has the Mario, Zelda, Metroid, Kirby, and Super Smash Bros. (my favorite fighting game of all time), but they've also made the Wii very affordable and very innovative.

...Yeah...

bookerV

Well I've already got a 360. It rocks and I see no reason to shell out an additional $750+ for a PS3. Also, for whatever reason, I'm not really interested in the Wii at all...

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360 with a 52 inch wide screen and surround, after experiencing oblivion on this theres no turning back. The graphics are clear have depth and are real eyepopper compared to the old Xbox. Right at this moment I'm on edge waiting for the windows to shatter while other half plays call of duty 2. Three times in the last 2 hours he's called out, 'Did you hear that!?' (But thats speakers) Just had to put in my 2 cents, Im very impressed with 360 and wouldnt change a thing

hobo

Nintendo will "win" by making the most money, Sony will "win" by having the greatest market share, and Microsoft will "win" by having closed the huge gap between #1 and #2.

Right now globally, the PS2 is at about 104 million units sold, while Xbox1 is at like 25 million, and Gamecube at like 20 million.

By 2010, I'm pretty sure PS3 will be at like 60 million, Xbox 360 will be at 40 million, and Wii will be at 25 million.

Although Wii is cheaper and fresh, the bad graphics (very bad in comparison to the other 2 consoles) and poor physics and AI in the games will make the Wii show it's age much sooner. The Wii will get off to a good start, but end up as the cheap party game machine like the Gamecube did.

Although I originally wanted the Wii, I quickly realized that swinging the controller to swing a sword/bat/racket/fishing rod isn't really that great, and is a gimmick that will get old fast, plus the visuals for me, coming off PC gaming for the last few years, will be like going back in time 4 years.

The Xbox 360 and PS3 are both pretty close in visuals (to the point where it doesn't really matter) and it'll just be the games that decide this one. Although I think the PS3 will have the greater market share in the end (due to Japan mostly), I think they will be much closer than last time.

Right now, I'm considering an Xbox 360, because it offers the next-gen graphics (what computers are at) at a good price (cheaper than PS3 and new gaming rig) and has at least half a dozen games coming out within a year that I am very interested in. The PS3 only has 1 exclusive I want, Final Fantasy XIII, but it's not worth buying a CA$659 system for 1 exclusive. The Xbox 360 will have Mass Effect, Lost Odyssey, Blue Dragon, Fable 2 (as you can tell I like RPGs), Halo 3 (you almost have to buy this) and Grand Theft Auto 4 the same day as PS3. Knights of the Old Republic 3 will likely get made for Xbox 360 too, since the last 2 games sold very well on Xbox1.

If it somehow turns out that in 2 years, the PS3 graphics are significantly better than the Xbox 360, and there are a dozen games that interest me and are exclusive to the PS3, then I might get a PS3 then. It'll be cheaper by then too. Free online means nothing to me if it's crappy online, and $60 a year for Xbox Live Gold is like 1 day's work for a year's fun.

zed wolf

Who will win? I dont know or care realy.
I have only ever played on a Sony.
No that is not brand loyalty but my taste in games. Specificaly, the reason I bought the original Playstation. Gran Turismo. Also the reason I bought a Ps2. Gran Turismo 3 Aspec.
And the reason I will buy a Ps3, Gran Turismo HD.

djflish

I'm very happy with my 360, and I have no plans to replace when either of the other 2 come out.

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I don't care, I'll be sticking with PCs like I always have. They usually have better games, better controls, better graphics, better online play, etc. And theyre basically the same price as a console when you think about it. Since most people consider having some sort of computer standard, now add in the money you'd spend on console(s) for the "gaming" portion of your PC and you easily have something better in almost every way than consoles.

The only thing I can see that consoles sometimes have over PCs are that feel you get when playing with a friend on one side and a beer on the other (though you can do this to a more limited extent with LAN parties on PCs) and the exclusive factor that consoles have some games PCs don't (but then PCs get some games consoles don't so..).

I understand why if you had the money you might want both but I've never gotten (and I see so many people like this) why they focus on consoles for their games.

Though I suppose computers can be more complex to deal with (viruses, software issues, more hardware problems usually, compatibility issues, etc.)

snowy

I've never bought a console before, but I know my boyfriend and I are probably going to get a Wii for ourselves for Christmas. I'm not a big console gamer, but the games I do like on a console are Nintendo's group games, like Mario Kart and Super Smash Bros., so the Wii appeals to me.

I think for a lot of people who may have had consoles when they were younger or have not bought a console before the Wii has a lot of appeal, especially with the available back catalog of classic Nintendo games.

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YaWhateva

the PS3 is only $100 more than the 360.....plus it has 1080p, Blue Ray, Free Online gaming, good games and more.

The Wii has been getting excellent reviews so I don't see how any could say that it isn't going to do good. And to those who say that the graphics suck, look at the new Zelda and then tell me that the graphics suck. Also, if the Wii had SNES graphics and badass games, I would still buy it.

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hulk

The 360 has 1080p now, by the way. Plus you'll be able to buy a 360 this christmas, which is gonna hurt Sony

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YaWhateva

I didn't know that, thats pretty cool of them. was it like a firmware update or something?

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Oh, and I think must live in a cave or something......just to show you how much I pay attention to new game consoles, when I saw the Southpark epp about the Wii I had no idea it was real.

bgivnin

Yeah, it's the latest firmware update, but it's bricking some people's units and the 1080p doesn't work correctly on some high-end Sony TV's, so be careful.

stevie667

I'm getting a wii, going to pre-order this week.

Need to find somewhere that actually gives good game bundles, because i don't want half of the release titles.

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xepherys

I own a 360 and love it. Live, even for a fee, is almost certainly better than either Nintendo or Sony's online offerings to come (from what I've seen so far at least). I will likely buy a Wii, however, because I like to support Nintendo, and having the stash of classic games will be a boon for my gaming needs here and there. I won't buy a PS3. Ever!

I had a Playstation, and it was pretty cool I guess. PS2 pissed me off because they were trying too hard to sell the "DVD Player" aspect of it as well. I mean, I know it HAS the capability, but I'd rather a game console be pushed for it's gaming goodness, not it's secondary features. They're doing it again with the PS3 and Blu-Ray, neither of which I support. *shrug*

I hope Sony Entertainment dies a miserable death over the next few years.

a) If the Wii had SNES graphics and great games, I think a lot of us would still buy it.

b) The Xbox360 has 1080p, is $200-300 less than the PS3 and will support HD-DVD.

c) Free online gaming... just think about it for a minute. Think MMOs... free MMOs are never NEARLY as good as pay-for-play. Besides, content updates and add-ons are virtually seamless on Live, where the tidbits that have been show from Sony's offering are lackluster at best. You take your free service... I'll take the good stuff.

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YaWhateva

I didnt mean the MMOs, I probably wouldnt play an MMO on a console. I meant regular online games. Sports games, Fighting games, other stuff.

Also we aren't paying monthly to play the games online, we are paying Microsoft to set up the service. Sony will give us the service for free. I would rather not get into arguements about it lol. All three systems will be amazing.

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THExBOY

I could talk for hours on this topic. but I will try to keep it short.
for those saying that Sony and Microsoft have been outselling Nintendo, it has not. they may have outsold the gamecube but Nintendo has sold more DS's then any other system ever. handheld or consol. Nintendo has beed makeing money year after year while Sony and Microsoft have been loseing money with there systems. The only reson they are still around is because they are just a small part of large corperations.

The fact that PS3 and X-Box 360 have HD meand nothing. They are just like there previos systems with beeft up graphics. Almost all the games that I've seen for PS3 or X-Box have looked like all the other games they put out on there previus systems. While the Wii is trying to appiel to a hole new demographic. They are pulling in the casual gammers while still appeling to the hard-core gammer.

The Wii is also giveing us free online gameing (like they did with the DS) and they have the capasity to bring the DS into the Wii games. like they did with FFCC and Zelda Four Swords on GC.

The one thing that I did not see mentiond is that The Wii will have no load times in there games. They have is setup so that all the Wiis that are online will feed off eachother. When your system is not in use it will be connectied to all the others over the nintendo WIFI incrasing the systems speed and power.

sorry for the long rant but ther was so much to talk about.

Redjake

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Nintendo hasn't sold more DSs than any other console, ever. The PlayStation itself has sold 100 million units. Quite a bit more than the DS' figure of 25 million.

PS3 and Xbox 360 games will not look like PS2 and Xbox games. Sorry. It might take a while to tweak the PS3 programming and get truly amazing graphics, but games like Gears of War for 360 are already pushing the boundaries of next-gen. You won't find Gears of War graphics on PS2 or Xbox.

Wii doesn't "pull power from other Wiis over the WIFI." It will not increase the system's speed or power. It features WiiConnect24, which does keep the Wii connected via WIFI 24 hours a day; however, it only serves a purpose of receiving messages and updates during the Wii hours of the morning.

Lastly, Wii will have load times. The press statement about Wii not having loads times was referring to the Virtual Console. I'd hope a next-generation console loading the original Zelda wouldn't have load times.

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Ehh, I've jumped out of console gaming, and did so a long time ago. I'm a pc gamer, but the direction Nintendo seems to be going interests me, and I'm curious if the Wiimote is gonna cut it. It looks gimicky. Putting the Nintendo name behind it and making it flagship? If it comes out gimicky, it's gonna surprise me. They'll sell a hella lot until the word get out that it doesn't actually work well, then they're only gonna get the uninformed, and then people are going to start distrusting Nintendo products. I don't think that Nintendo is going to risk that at all, I think they've tested the hell out of the Wiimote, but I'm not gonna buy one straight out, because I want some reviews of how well game designers are using it, and maybe to try one myself. Plus I always go get game reviews before I get a game, and thats a bit hard for a new console when your thinking about pre-ordering. If the Wiimote and nunchuk pull it off, I'm getting one.

If they add shinpads (first time I've heard this rumor), people are going to have to hold me back from it. I came very close to rooming with a person that had an x-box and a DDR pad with Dance Dance Revolution Extreme (3 I think), and I use to play DDR avidly for exercise in an arcade until that machine got popular and suddenly I had to wait in line to get on it. Making exercise fun and interactive, distracting me from doing exercise, and I will shell out some money for it. I've a history of it, three dollars every day I worked was spent at that arcade which was on the way back home on that DDR machine, I've shelled major money for disc golf disc's and a basket, so on so forth.

The most interesting thing that Nintendo appears to be doing, and I hope so, is not really even trying to improve the graphics so much. On a PS3, how much money for developing a game is gonna be spent on graphics? Now, on a Wii? That money for developing game on a Wii could, and I hope will, go to improving AI. Processing power on the chip can go to AI too.

I'd like to see a FPS game where I get to pick up a walkie talkie from a guard, and I watch a group go in to assault me, I retaliate with a hail of gunfire, they take cover and shoot while popping out of doorways, and then on that walkie talkie it starts going "On 3, everyone out and charge. 1...2..." I'm going to freak the first time. If I find out thats not scripted, the next time I run through I hear on that walkie talkie "alright, ambush setup here." and they wait at a T hallway, and I just waltz past the corner, and get shot to death, I'm gonna freak again. If its on easy, and they put men at both sides of the T intersection and I get to watch them shoot eachother by accident while I get shot to death, I'm going to freak yet again, and I'm gonna be LMAO not because I'm pathetic and just died on easy by falling into an obvious trap, and I'm trying to laugh it off, but because I just watched an inept squadron of enemies crossfire into themselves.

I don't imagine this is going to happen for a long time, especially on consoles, and especially if people keep going "Graphics! It's so pretty..." then buying consoles because of graphics power.