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Old 08-15-2005, 11:14 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Survivor 11: Guatemala

Just wanted to give my fellow survivor fans a heads up that the new cast is up on the CBS website and they new season is starting September 15th!!

http://www.cbs.com/primetime/survivor11/

I havent read all the info yet so I have comments on the new players..other than they all appear to be white
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Old 08-15-2005, 11:21 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Thanks! I was wondering when that would go up...

I never thought I could watch Survivor in reruns, but OLN just finished showing the 1st season last week and start Outback today, and cool to watch even if you know who will get the boot.
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Old 08-15-2005, 11:21 AM   #3 (permalink)
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I've been trying to figure out if I have OLN
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Old 08-15-2005, 12:20 PM   #4 (permalink)
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I think this will be the last season of Survivor I'm going to watch, unless major changes are made to the game. I've lost interest in the 3 player types: Challenge Dominator; Under the Radar; Coattail Rider

Something needs to be done to shake up the the dynamic.
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Old 08-15-2005, 05:57 PM   #5 (permalink)
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What do you think of having the teams change a player or two each episode.. IE you vote someone off, then a player is randomly picked to go to the other team?
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Old 08-16-2005, 04:19 AM   #6 (permalink)
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I've been trying to figure out if I have OLN
I didn't know it existed until they started advertising Survivor on other cable channels. Its buried toward the end of our channel lineup...
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Old 08-16-2005, 04:55 AM   #7 (permalink)
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I found it!! Its channel 151 on dish network so I got to start watching Australia last nite!! This was the series I started with, but I didnt start watching until weeks into it...Its nice to see it from the beginning. (I have the first season on DVD)
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Old 08-16-2005, 05:20 AM   #8 (permalink)
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Wow, they sure are all white! Never seen that before. I'm sure that will raise the ire of the anti-reality show pundits.

edit: Lydia Morales is Hispanic
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Old 08-16-2005, 11:22 AM   #9 (permalink)
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Can't wait, I always look forward to a new season of Survivor. The bios were interesting. 2 ivy league students. A hotel doorman, and a magician's assistant. Should be interesting.
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Old 08-16-2005, 11:28 AM   #10 (permalink)
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I can guarantee that unless Survivor is up against Lost, which it isn't, I know, I'll be watching it religiously. No real hotties this year. And the guys are even uglier than the girls... isn't that always the way...
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Old 08-16-2005, 12:54 PM   #11 (permalink)
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I disagree Daoust I see plenty of goodlooking people there!!
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Old 08-16-2005, 04:57 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Gary Hogeboom??? haven't heard that name in a while...
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Old 08-16-2005, 07:00 PM   #13 (permalink)
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Gary Hogeboom??? haven't heard that name in a while...
Yeah, when I read it I thought it sounded familiar, then I read 'Ex-NFL', and thought, "He's one of my former football heroes!"
I would pretend to be him, among other football stars, while playing backyard football as a kid.

Hope he still handles himself well.

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Old 08-17-2005, 03:06 AM   #14 (permalink)
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What team did he play for? Was it the Cowboys?
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Old 08-17-2005, 04:38 AM   #15 (permalink)
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All white, 12 of the sixteen under 40, and only one person over 50. This is a bit disappointing. They seem to have given up even putting up any pretense of trying to balance it and packed it with good looking young people.

And yes, I see that as a bad thing. I've got an internet connection. I can see good looking young people anytime I want. I want clashing personalities and a mixture of ethnicities and ages. This isn't well, whatever those MTV shows that I never watch that star 20 somethings are called.

I'll be watching and all, but this better not just be a case of stacking the deck with eye candy.

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Old 08-17-2005, 07:12 AM   #16 (permalink)
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What team did he play for? Was it the Cowboys?
yeah, that's where he started. i think he played with them for a half a dozen seasons or so and then moved on for a year or two for a couple of other teams (i'm thinking the Colts were one of them?)...
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Old 08-17-2005, 09:02 AM   #17 (permalink)
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Yup, the Cowboys were where I knew Hogeboom from. He, Roger Staubach, and Danny White were the quarterbacks I grew up admiring.


As to the lack of diversity of this season's cast, I'm in agreement with y'all, in that they need to get back to the old formula of young, old, various sexual preferences, different ethnicities, and best of all, the weirdos.
But all we can do is protest with our remote controls.

I'll be watching for now, anyway.
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Old 08-17-2005, 11:23 AM   #18 (permalink)
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I agree, too young, too little diversity...

Been watching the OLN reruns and when you look at the difference between the "rugged-looking" Season 1 cast and the Season 2 "beautiful people" cast.

I like Survivor mainly for the personality clashes, as long as they don't get 16 boring folks on, I'll watch. I was certain the last one would suck, but turned out to really good.

I would like to see them do other places besides the tropical isle setting. They did Outback, Africa and Amazon, but all the latest have been island..
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Old 08-17-2005, 02:04 PM   #19 (permalink)
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I like the fact that these people have to live in the myan (sp?) ruins!!!
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Old 08-18-2005, 03:11 AM   #20 (permalink)
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Oh that's right...they are living around the ruins. That's gotta be awesome...
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Old 08-18-2005, 04:29 AM   #21 (permalink)
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All white, 12 of the sixteen under 40, and only one person over 50. This is a bit disappointing.
As I posted before, there is one Hispanic woman.

But I see your point. Perhaps they decided against the "token black person" formula and just picked the 16 best applicants. Or maybe they are mixing up the game in such a way that these particular people best fit? Who knows.....the black folks never make it far anyways (the man keeping them down!)
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Old 08-18-2005, 05:32 AM   #22 (permalink)
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Well Vecepia was black and she won season four
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Old 08-18-2005, 05:33 AM   #23 (permalink)
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As I posted before, there is one Hispanic woman.

But I see your point. Perhaps they decided against the "token black person" formula and just picked the 16 best applicants. Or maybe they are mixing up the game in such a way that these particular people best fit? Who knows.....the black folks never make it far anyways (the man keeping them down!)
A white Hispanic woman. Hispanic designates that the language spoken in one's culture of origin is Spanish. Hispanics can be of any color, white, black, Asian. There are several thousand Japanese Hispanics living in Texas, descendants of Japanese foreign nationals kidnapped from Latin American countries and brought to internment in Texas during World War 2.

The only thing that makes an applicant one of the 16 best is that the producers choose them. This isn't a meritocracy where you can be better qualified than your neighbor by getting better grades or doing better on a test. "Best qualified" is whatever the producers decide it is. Apperantly for this season, that means white and young.

I agree tokenism is a bad idea. So why have one black guy and one black woman? Why not have three or four black people and a couple of Asians, an even mix of young, middle-aged, and old? The producers actively choose thier contestants. I'd like to see more diversity than a bunch of white 20 somethings. This coming from a white 20 something.

What I'm getting bored with is the tropical islands. Give us some variety already. Put it in a dense northern forest, or an Alaskan island, or another semi-arid plain or a desert.

Still, I'll be watching.

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Old 08-18-2005, 02:30 PM   #24 (permalink)
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I'd like to see them in the Rockies, or some other mountain range in America.
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Old 08-18-2005, 07:37 PM   #25 (permalink)
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8 contestants in their 20's
8 contestants 30 or over

So an even split, though few are over 40
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Old 08-18-2005, 08:28 PM   #26 (permalink)
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8 contestants in their 20's
8 contestants 30 or over

So an even split, though few are over 40
Yes, an even split at 30. Since all the contestants are adults, that means that fully half the contestants are taken from the first decade of adulthood, and half from the remaining five decades of an average person's life.

Early series tended to have a few young adults (20-40) a few middle-aged (40-60) and two or three elderly (60+). This group has 12 young adults, 3 middle-aged, and one elderly. It's skewing significantly younger, and it seems to be for the purpose of showing off more eye candy. No doubt that's what they think will attract viewers. I'd just like to see a bit more variety.

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Old 08-19-2005, 03:10 AM   #27 (permalink)
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I think they should put them in Northern Canada or Greenland..somewhere fairly cold, but I figure CBS doesn't want them all covered up...

The older players usually do ok, hell Rudy and Rodger (seasons 1&2) both made it far..
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Old 08-19-2005, 07:40 AM   #28 (permalink)
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I think they should put them in Northern Canada or Greenland..somewhere fairly cold, but I figure CBS doesn't want them all covered up...

The older players usually do ok, hell Rudy and Rodger (seasons 1&2) both made it far..
There are probably more safety concerns in cold weather than in warm. Heat Stroke vs. Frostbite, etc.
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True, but I was thinking like during the warm months....
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Old 08-19-2005, 09:45 PM   #30 (permalink)
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I think they should put them in Northern Canada or Greenland..somewhere fairly cold, but I figure CBS doesn't want them all covered up...

The older players usually do ok, hell Rudy and Rodger (seasons 1&2) both made it far..
And Paschal, the only Survivor never to have a single vote cast against him.

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Old 08-25-2005, 03:01 PM   #31 (permalink)
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Cindy, the twin, is from my small ass hometown in Eastern KY. Like myself, she got the hell out and now lives in Florida. The show hasnt started and shes already a local celeb because of the local newspaper. Once the show gets started she will probably become a hero like "Kentucky Joe".
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Old 08-27-2005, 01:17 AM   #32 (permalink)
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Hello, new here.. so be gentle *snicker*...

I now need a new reality show alongside Aussie Idol .. so bring on Survivor.. !

I thought there was going to be an all stars Survivor which would include none other than Rupert (RROOOOAAARRR!!!).. that would have been excellent. Maybe it clashed with Amber and Rob competing on the Amazing race huh...
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Hello, new here.. so be gentle *snicker*...

I now need a new reality show alongside Aussie Idol .. so bring on Survivor.. !

I thought there was going to be an all stars Survivor which would include none other than Rupert (RROOOOAAARRR!!!).. that would have been excellent. Maybe it clashed with Amber and Rob competing on the Amazing race huh...
Welcome to the TFP, and to the thread.

There was a Survivors: All-stars season, Season 8 I believe, and Rupert was a big player in it.
I would hazard a guess they didn't air it down there.
Maybe they will in the future.

Here's a link to a bunch of sites about the season.
http://tinyurl.com/d84r6 (Beware of spoilers, though.)


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Old 08-27-2005, 04:45 PM   #34 (permalink)
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there was an all stars....thats where Rob and Amber met and among other things they would do..they did the Amazing Race
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Old 08-29-2005, 02:31 PM   #35 (permalink)
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What do you think of having the teams change a player or two each episode.. IE you vote someone off, then a player is randomly picked to go to the other team?
how about they just put ppl on a island and make them survive, with no stupid challenges
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Old 09-02-2005, 11:22 AM   #36 (permalink)
 
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how about they just put ppl on a island and make them survive, with no stupid challenges
you mean like in battle royale? hahaha! fuck ya! i want to see that. it's still the most interesting idea for a tv show ever.

and i want to see a real TVshow with REAL ppl(i mean that they know how to make fires, hunt for fish, and not just sit on the fucking beach)... plus it would be sweeeet to see a northen survivor. i camped for weeks at a time and it's possible. the water is almost always clean (or just boil to clean like usual) and theres PLENTy of animals to catch... etc... if i still watched tv, i'd write a note to the survivor ppl...
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and i want to see a real TVshow with REAL ppl(i mean that they know how to make fires, hunt for fish, and not just sit on the fucking beach)
I foten wonder if the main thing they look for on Survivor is the inabilty to light a fire.
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Old 09-06-2005, 12:51 PM   #39 (permalink)
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Survivor Spoilers

Warning: This site will tell you in advance who is going to get booted, win reward etc... etc... you have been warned.


Edit: Link removed, look down 5 or 6 posts to see why.

So far the only spoiler is the two "Surprise Guests" definately not who I would have expected.
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Old 09-13-2005, 05:21 AM   #40 (permalink)
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ok...so who are your guesses for the surprise "past" survivors that are joining them? I think its rob and amber...the outlines of the people clearly show a man and a woman and they guy def dont look like rupert.....
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