japhyryder

I felt it was kinda rushed also, I didn't like the new admiral from the first second I saw her.

Long time till January... : (

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guthmund

It was rushed. In the latest podcast, he mentioned cutting a whole act, which, if I understand it right, is about 15 minutes worth of material.

About damn time the real Adama showed up. And that's really all I have to say about that.

Interesting choice making Cain a woman. Also interesting how Cain isn't crazy, she's just a bitch. I think it made for a better story to tell.

I had a hard time watching Pegasus-Six, which is odd considering I was advocating kicking Caprica-Sharon out the airlock a few weeks ago. Maybe it was the distasteful thought of her getting gang raped against her will, I couldn't say, but there was certainly a difference.

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well the Pegasus' cylon (Six) got what was coming to her. i dont know why they opted to keep her alive...if you could call that living. i would've scuttled her thru the airlock a long time ago.

I still don't like sharon but it was comical that Pegasus' men were humping a robot and proud of it.

bparker805

I just want to kow, "What the hell happened to Boxy?!"

and when are we going to see a Dagget?



not to mention, when is the love affair between starbuck and Cassiopeia gonna start up?

MPower

Whoa, hold on there. We dont want to move the series to HBO.

And what about Apollo's hot sister?

Plus, give us a Jack Palance cameo!!

bparker805

TaDa! Apollo's Hot Sister... Athena



Didn't she have the hots for starbuck too? I see a great threeway coming our way!

Lestat

I wish..

Great show, but I gotta wait until January??? Come on! WTF!! What kind crap is this!

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It starts again this FRIDAY yeah!!!!

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Willravel

Best show on television. Back this friday. I can hardly contain myself.

pixelbend

Put me down for "Giddy with excitement" too.

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Wow. I just watched the new episode.. I'm actually pretty glad that it wasn't the cliffhanger episode.. or I'd go nuts. At least I only have to wait a week.

This show seems to get better and better... anyone else watch it, what do you think?

Spoiler: I thought the other commander.. the female one.. had a better plan for assassinating Adama than he did her. They were going to lock down the whole area. Adama just wants Starbuck to go in there and shoot her in the middle of her command room. Should be interesting

japhyryder

Oh man what a show, my wife actually got sucked into it, I am turning her into a scifi geek like me. (got her hooked on the Firefly series) We are just dieing to see next weeks episode.)

Oh yeah totally agree Latch

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Best show on television today. Hands down.
Spoiler: Well, you have to consider a few things. 1. Anyone on Battlestar Galactica from the Battlestar Pegesus will be under close observation by Battlestar security. They will have a serious fight on their hands when they strike. On the flip side, Starbuck seems to have gained the confidence of Admiral Cain, and will be able to get right through. Either way, we're in for a heck of an episode. I suspect that the Pegesus will be sacraficed taking out the cylon replication ship.

guthmund

I agree and...

Spoiler: That would be quite interesting. Cain's starting acting a bit crazy and now that some of the details of what's happened have gotten out...well, it looks like she may be a bit kooky after all. Cain sacrificing her ship in her obsession to strike a hard blow against the Cylons would make for some good television.

I kind of hope they find some kind of 'cure' for Roslin, no matter how outlandish it may be. These past few episodes she's kind of grown on me. It be a shame to kill her off (for me anyway ) now that I've come around.

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Spoiler: Agreed! Her conversation with Edward James Olmos..heh I mean Captian Adalma... was really, really interesting. I've liked her all along, but she really has developed into a great leader, and the actress who plays the president (Mary McDonnell) is really coming into her own on the show. I would be realyl sad to see her go, but I'd understand how it was necessary and I'd appreciate the fact that they'd be willing to kill off a very popular character for the sake of keeping the show consistant.

This thread could get relaly funny for those who don't want to spoil anything.

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White Posts of doom!

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Brewmaniac

Damn, I missed both I wanted to watch after seeing a commercial a while back.

When is it on(Directv midwest), do they air back episodes?

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I only just descovered the remake by seeing the MiniSeries on Sky (in the UK).

I immediately went and bought the pilot and first series on Amazon to catch up before the second series starts soon.

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Willravel

You might have to wait for syndication after the end of the season (over 10 weeks). I'd go to iTunes and just download it.

kutulu

Great premier. The shit hits the fan next week!

Latch

That's what I love about BG. When they hint at something coming next week (an assisination or two, for example), it happens NEXT WEEK. Other shows seem to hint at stuff for the coming week, something happens.. and you're still left hanging waiting for a conclusion (I'm looking at you, Lost).

Mondak

Well - you gotta figure a couple things:

- Neither Cain or Adama get capped this week. Too easy. Why build up all that tension and then just drop it? They will find some common ground somehow. She can't be just an evil bitch. Her characher strikes me as more complex (which may just be because I would like to have sex with her...) Maybe she is inspired by Adama or something and sees the error of her ways. That or she gets capped...what do I know?

- The Pegasus is not long for this world. Despite the fact that the writers/producers don't show loyalty to the old show (which is great) the story is just a bit out of balance with the two battlestars somehow. Vegas has the over under at two more episodes. Any takers?

Couple random things on top of that:

- I know some of you listen to the pod casts and such. I really never have so if they explain this somehow, then whoops. I don't feel like I have a clear understanding of how the Pegasus makes it? I mean you have to figure they have networked computers on there. I understand why the Galactica made it. On that same page, those Viper Mark....the new ones whatever .... I thought they could not be flown by normal pilots (anyone except starbuck to my knowledge) without the computers assisting the flight controls and such. How are they ones from the Pegasus able to make it?

- Before she is "Lost" (I bet they cut away with the Pegasus fighting to the death without really seeing her destroyed a la the OG commander Cain) I would like to see what the Pegasus can do. I mean so far, we have not really seen a lot from the Galactica. What good is a Battlestar? Lets see it!

- What is the Cylon's plan for the Pegasus?

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Willravel

This show is incapable of dissapointing me. I'll plant a huge spoiler after everyone has seen the ep.

portwineboy

Yea the season is off to a rip-roaring start. No spoilers here but from what I can see, this show is going to keep on producing for the fans once again.

I keep watching DS9 reruns on SpikeTV and everytime I see one I think is REALLY good I notice that Ron Moore produced it.

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Ahh, Mondak, good to hear your thoughts again.

And....straight to the white....Spoiler: I just knew Cain was going to get it and I knew it wasn't going to be Adama that had it done. I have to say, I'm glad she's dead, but I'm really disappointed in how it all played out. The escaped Cylon got her...how....convenient.

by the way...how creepy was it to hear Cain's XO in the CIC just laughing?

I don't know how in the world the Pegasus made it either. I could see missing the initial invasion and such, but my understanding was they'd been engaging Cylons up until they ran into Galactica. Not to mention the big battle tonight....why couldn't the Cylons just open up their visors, do their KITT impression and shut the 'new' battlestar and her vipers down? I've heard all but the last two podcasts and Moore has yet to explain it.

I'm glad I'm not the only one irritated by it.

Oh and...Spoiler: Adama and Roslin??? What the hell is that all about? Egads....

And who wrote the second half of that script? Good gravy.

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guthmund, as usual I disagree with you although I have to admit I am surprised. I mean as a Baltar fanboy, I would think you would love his involvement in this whole thing. (by the way, if you see him, can you ask him if he is ever going to finish that damned Cylon detector or not? We still don't know what they all look like and so that COULD come in handy...) This moment has been building for many seasons. We couldn't figure it out, but this Six is who frees him from that crazy puppetmaster in his head. Interesting concept, but totally impossible. I think there might be a single guard or camera in between the brig and her quarters. Just a thought. I don't want to get all technical and stuff, but they better not keep doing crap like this (see my last post). Sloppy.

Okay - I was wrong that I did not think that they would get capped. What happened worked with what was in my head. I mean - I just could not see Adama or Cain doing it. The fact that a bullet from someone else got her works just fine. Sad I did not see her naked before she was gone.

By the way, blowing up all that cylon shit has to give us space for a few episodes of whirlyball or whatever or some space casinos or something. Starbuck has to be hankerin' for a hunk o' tail about now. I was kinda hoping she would dike out with the president before she packed it in, but alas. . .

Oh yeah - and Can a brotha get some space battles for gods sake? I mean holy crap! They take two Battlestars against gobs of Raiders, the Cylon's most important ship and Two fraking basestars and all we get is some wide angle shots from 10,000 miles away cut in between images of Apollo floating? Sheesh. I mean, I watch the show for the stories and the charachters, but gimme a couple minutes of space shoot-em-up every once in a blue moon.

I still have not seen jack shit of what a Battlestar can do? Oh yeah - and why didn't both Battlestars get hit with like 150 nukes or something?

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Baltar did finish the cylon detector, and the Pegasus has their own, anyway. 6 was able to escape becuse guards had been reassigned in case of cylon boarding parties. She did have one guerd (R.I.P.). I suspect though that they did not view her as a threat anymore. Up until Baltar worked his mojo, she was comatose.
Well, go watch her as Ensign Roe for a while on the old Star Trek TNG eps. She kinda shows skin every once in a while.
Maybe she did, and we'll get to see it in a flashback later!
This episode was supposed to be about the battle between Cain and Adama. The space battle, believe it or not, is supposed to play second chicked to the assasination plot line. The space battle was a sub plot! The second sub plot is what has my attention. Spoiler: This season not only do we get to see Apollo break out of his shell, we get to see him melt down. His misadventure in space is the flint that starts the fire of his mental deterioration. I suspect he will have a break down before the season is up. Also HE WILL GET SOME STARBUCK. Trust me on that one. Will in be a halucination or reality? Who can say.
Not all base stars are armed with nukes. These were defensive shipes, and thus were simply stocked with a ton of raiders. The producers said in an interview, "This is not Star Wars...this is not Star Trek..." This series is about the people and the cylons; the space and science stuff has to take a back sea in order for the dramatic element of the show to work. That is where both Star Wars and Star Trek failed quite often.

guthmund

Fanboy?!? Why...that's SLANDE----LIBEL!!! Ahhh, nevermind. What can I say..? I do like the good doctor....

Man, if you hated that you would've really hated the original idea. Moore talks about (in the podcast which I finally got around to listening to) about how the original idea was for Gina to kill Cain in Pegasus' CIC, which meant killing everyone else in CIC as well before making her escape. So...as unbelieveable as it was that goodwoman Gina managed to kill the Admiral and escape with nary a guard or camera in sight, it could have been much, much worse.

Since we're talking about the good doctor...I thought when he swiped Six's Pyramid story and passed it off as his own to get closer to Gina...brilliant. Although, I have to wonder why he chose Gina over Six...

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The way he swiped the Pyramid story helped me to understand how the whole Cylon transfer conciousness thing works I think. Tell me if I have this wrong:

So the Six who died on Caprica who worked to get the codes out of Baltar (I am guessing she died here) transfered her conciousness to the other Sixes that were made, but only those who had not yet been "deployed". So lets say that the Six aboard the Pegasus was on it before the Six who was with Baltar on Caprica died, she would not know much about Baltar (only what she knew from being a Cylon and being privy to operations or something). So that means that the Six on the Pegasus was put there after the Cylon attack.

Ok - no that doesn't work at all since the Sharon who came back with Helo knew about the Chief .... Okay anyone want to explain it to me?

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Bear in mind that Sharon works differently than the other cylons, so yo coud be right. I suspect that there are various levels of Sharons. Some Sharons are cylon, some are (for all intents and purpouses) human.

That being said....TONIGHT'S EPISODE WAS AMAZING.

Spoiler: For a moment, I honestly believed that Baltar was going to abandon the Cylons and then....he went and did one of the best 180s I've ever seen. Facinating. The president is not only not dead, but CURED, and by the cylong amalgam none the less!!!! The Six from the Pegusus (corporeal Six) is now in charge of a terrorist group pushing for peace with the cylons.
I need to go lie down.

guthmund

See? 'one of the best 180s he's ever seen,' Will says... A Baltar convert in the wings, eh?

How do you figure that? Did I miss something...? Did Gina recognize the story?

I thought Baltar using the pyramid story was kind of like..."If you're all basically the same then the things that make you (Six) are going to make her (Gina) feel the same way." I'm going to rob from Mary...to seduce the other Mary.

Either way, using Six as a baseline for any of the Cylon's behavior or abilities wouldn't work as she seems to be operating on a different playing field and playing with a different rule book. (In his head...not in his head. Canoodling in the lab unseen by any....trying to seduce Adama and seen by all.)

I'm not sure how the 'downloading Cylon consciousness' thing works at all. Both the Caprica-Sharon and the Galactica-Sharon were operating in their respective places at the same time. So, how did Caprica-Sharon know about Tyrol? Were they in contact? When Galactica-Sharon was killed did her experiences 'download' to all the Sharon duplicates...active and inactive? For that matter, how did Galactica-Sharon's memories get there? Were they still close enough for the trick to work or did Galactica-Sharon's consciousness go the Resurrection ship?

This week's episode was fantastic, by the way. Of course, that's probably tainted by my Baltar fanaticism.

Now that Roslin knows there's a connection between Baltar and a known Cylon agent... Well, it looks like Moore and company are finally setting things up for the shit to hit the fan...so to speak.

Either way, I'm with willravel....I need to go lie down

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Mondak

I can't wait until the President shoots Baltar in the effing head! That traitor piece of crap needs a bullet for frak sake.

I agree though - nice turn around.

By the way - doesn't the president now officially have cylon "cooties"?

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Willravel

Baltar has a very duplistic persona, and I suspect that we've not seen the last of 'good' Baltar.

Baltar saves the presidents life while the president learns of Baltar's deceit and shame. How could this possibly tuern out?

mrklixx

How about another way of looking at the Pyramid story as Baltars way of testing whether the 6 in his head is "real" or just psychosis.

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How so?

I guess I'm just not seeing it.

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Before I explain, let me see if understand something. Are all of the "online" cylons tapped into a collective conciousness ala Borg?

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As I have been understanding it, all the cylons are individual entities with no nural ties to one another. But if a cylon is destroyed, it's conciousness is sucked back to home base and stuck in another copy of that model. Kinda like "respawning" in video games. Maybe I'm wrong though.

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You mean all the time? All Cylons aware of all other Cylons all the time? I don't think it's ever been specifically mentioned...

That being said, I don't think so. I think once a cylon is 'in the wild' that they communicate with their 'commanders?' much the same way their human counterparts do.

Is that what you meant?

Edit: -2 Redundancy

apparently I managed to forget reading pixelbend's post and said the exact same thing...

I'm going to agree. I think it's like respawning in a video game.

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Ok then I'm confused. Because the Sharon that shot Adama and the Pregnant Sharon are 2 different 'entites' that were online at the same time. And yet when pregnant Sharon got to the Galactica, she knew all about her "other self" and the Chief.

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They are different models of the Sharon mold. Some of the cylons (the ones seen talking to other cylons) are able to monitor cylon activity in some way. Whether that is a hive mind, or spy transmissions is anyone's guess. Maybe they have updaters like our operating system (Windows XP is a cylon!!!), that routinely give reports. I dunno.

Helo: "This is my Sharon. There are many like it, but this one is mine. My Sharon is my best friend. It is my life. I must master it as I must master my life. My Sharon, without me is useless. Without my Sharon, I am useless...."