Sister? Have we seen a sister of Angela Petrelli yet? I don't recall.

I think its the first time it's been mentioned that she has a sister. Seems kind of odd four seasons in she'll say "oh yeah I have to go see my sister that I've never talked about before and don't have pictures of in my house" but I hope they can pull it off.

The Sylar/Danko stuff was way better than the stuff with Sylar and that kid and Sylar's dad. They should've done this from the beginning. I thought the ending was good, but I didn't know Sylar could absorb powers without digging in people's brains. I think they've set Sylar up for some interesting stuff and potentially a good exit.

My prediction... Sylar absorbs tons of powers with the help of Danko, then kills Danko. Sylar eventually kills Nathan and takes his shape causing all of the events from the future of season 1 to begin to happen (e.g. Sylar/Nathan becomes president, Hiro finally becomes a badass, etc.). I think the explosion in DC that Matt painted wasn't that bomb strapped to his chest. I think Sylar is going to try to cause an actual nuclear explosion in DC. Its pretty cheesy but it goes along with all the story recycling the writers were doing this season. I hope the writers surprise me.
I like that they are focusing on a few characters at a time per episode now, plus the dialogue is getting better. We'll see...

One other thing... Claire was good in this episode but I don't understand why she would agree to run away with Nathan. I thought she hated him?

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On an unrelated note, has anybody ever heard of a west Baltimore accent?

Clair is the worst part of that series now. Go ahead and quit saving the freakin cheerleader

The friggin gov't storyline is overblown, post-911 hype. I mean I will believe people have super powers waaaaay before I believe the federal government is competent enough to scan all traffic lights to find individuals through facial recognition.....

What ever happened to Nathan's wife and kids from season one? did I miss something? I remember his wife getting the use of her legs back but thats it. were they killed off? I think I'd remember that... I think the last few episodes this season are going to be great! this last episode was pretty damn good.

DB

She took the kids and left him. Rumor is that we're supposed to see them again this season, and at least one of Nathan's sons has an ability.

I agree that this show its getting better. There wasn't much good material from the beginning of this season to work with, but they're making do... Looking forward to seeing if Sylar goes crazy after taking on so many different identities, what Mohinder plans to do in the middle of nowhere by himself (hopefully, die), and how hardcore Danko is going to get now that Parkman screwed up his love life.

I liked the episode this week, it was a huge improvement over earlier this season.

Ok, I'm confused again. (big surprise)

I thought Swoosie Kurtz's character from a few weeks ago was Angela's sister. Now it seems not.
Who was Swoosie's character in relation to Angela?

I thought she was one of Angela's old friends that she lost touch with due to Angela being a Primatech-running psycho bitch.

Weeee, finally got better. Great couple of last episodes.

OK, I didn't like the whole program Sylar to be Nathan bit. It's so blatantly obviously never going to work. Let Nathan be gone and keep Sylar in a Coma or something. Move on.

Now ice girl is aqua girl? Hmm....

I have decided to watch this crap no longer. Between nobody actually dying and writers forgetting a character's particular abilities or changing them with no explanation (Ando going from supercharging somebody's abilities to crimson lightning, for example), this show has turned into an incoherent abortion of ideas. It's not even entertaining to watch because half the time you're spinning around in your chair screaming, "WTF was that all about?!?!?!?!?!?!" at the TV.

All of you budding screenwriters, take note. This is not the way you develop a television show.

It's enough to make me apologize for every bad thing I said about the Galactica finale.

Here is several questions: If you have a power like the characters on Heroes, would you run around acting emo and not wanting to take out some government agents? Or would you take out Danko, the government agents, and Sylar without thinking about it until later?

Personally, I'd take Danko out because he was incompetent and has no idea how to run a covert government operation. Then I'd push Petrelli back to Capitol Hill because covert government operations are more effective when U.S. Senators are not peering over your shoulder interfering with your operations. Then I'd hire Bennett because he was the only one who had some kind of experience and I know he'd rather be a foot soldier than a head honcho. Then I'd hire The Hatian, team him up with Bennett and have them work at nothing but tracking down Sylar because the Hatian don't mess around and I'd think he'd look cool in a suit and tie.

Then I'd return to the old company model, "one of us, one of them," and no bagging and tagging, just eliminate on sight. Dead characters can't exact their revenge.

Speaking of the dead, Ali Larter must have a kickass agent who slipped in a clause that says she can never be written out of the show. How many times is she going to come back?

Or maybe her means of advancement of her character(s) is a little bit of "truth in fiction". ;)

Bleh, that last episode or two was hard to watch. I'm getting sick of musical chairs with powers and dead characters coming back. I know they do this in comics to an extent, but the show just doesn't seem to be able to pull it off like the comics. The writers just can't seem to decide between writing a true hero comic styled TV show or some drama.

Aside from all of the other problems that we all know plague Heroes, what was up with them not showing any of the fight between Sylar and Nathan and Peter? Buffy had to have had 10% of the budget, but when Dark Willow shot blue lighting at people, they flew across the room. And that was years ago! It can't be that hard, can it?

haha, well put.

Sylar as President Nathan Patrelli from the first season seems more and more likely. Were they planning this from the beginning? The writing seems to haphazard, it'd be shocking if there were a feeling of continuity that started to emerge.

That would definately be cool if they could pull that off....

I used to like Mohinder and what he was doing for research, but now I noticed he lacks a lot of common sense, like when he decided to stay to look at each individual frame in an abandoned warehouse in the middle of nowhere and agents bust down the door to take him out again. Or when he was making an observation about Daphne's health to Danko only to be taken out seconds later.

Is Suresh even licensed to practice medicine?

I really wonder what the F these folks were thinking. Killing Sylar by decapitation and burning and re-animating Nathan with Clair's blood was the way to go.

Instead they chose a more complicated method, keeping Sylar alive. I mean he can heal. Like Peter did when he met Adam.... What happens when Nathan discovers he can't get sick, die, what if Nathan is shot and the whole of his body heals and so does his brain???

So many freakin complications. Are people this inept?

Eh, that's not why that plot line was bad. People are emotional, his mom desparetly wants to hang on. It makes sense in that regard. It was bad because it was bad writing, its ok for a subplot point, like in the middle of a season, something brief, where things go back to normal quick, but for a season finale...retarded. The audience all knows whats going to happen, obviously sylar isn't going to go on that way. He'll figure it out eventually, would be even stupider if he didn't. And even worse it ruins the emotionality of nathan dieing.

I see what Xerxys is saying... I mean they DID bring Noah back from being shot in the eye by using Claire's blood, but everyone seemed to forget about that? Actually... didn't Nathan die before but they used I think Adam's blood to bring him back? :orly:

Nathan's death was really intense, and I thought well done, but the ending of this episode completely shit all over it. Can't the writers just let people die?

I was willing to stick with this show up to this point, but the Sylar/Nathan hybrid BS is just too much. I hope the writers forget about it like they do with so much other stuff, and Sythan mysteriously disappears in the first episode of next season.

Yes.

It doesn't make sense to think that Bennett, the man who's been chasing Sylar for years, the man who views Sylar as the #1 threat against Claire, the man who blames Sylar for nearly killing his wife and ending their marriage would stand there and agree to this. This was his one and only chance to end Sylar as a threat, and he should know that keeping him alive would only lead to a bigger disaster (like it did when they the Company ignored his pleas to kill Sylar the first time they caught him). He should've been trying to talk Parkman out of doing what he did, not talk him into it.

For that matter, Parkman should've been trying to talk her out of it too. He's had to deal with death and the desperate desire to hang on. He knows you can't truly bring back the dead (despite the wishes of the writing staff).

Everybody in that room who had an ounce of common sense, knowing what Sylar is capable of should've told her hell no to what she suggested, and in one fell swoop, they abandoned all of it, without any regard to the monstrous mess they will inevitably create.

Tim Kring has no regard for character development.

Anybody else think the season premier was kind of a snoozefest?

Yikes, that doesn't bode well. I watched House last night and Tivo'ed Heroes, figuring I'd watch the first few episodes and then cut it loose if it was sucking like the two years previous. Are you telling me I don't even have to wait the few episodes? :)

I think some diabolical bad guy used his powers to suck all pretense of logic, characterization, and plot out of this show. And well-written dialogue. And subtlety. And excitement.

Once again, I'm left wondering what Joss Whedon could do with the kind of money getting spent on this show. And where that Irish girl from season 2 is.

Anyone else think Matt Parkman is getting ripped off? Baltar gets Caprica Six in his head and Parkman get Sylar? He really should complain.

BTW, for the first time since season 1, Peter is interesting. It's refreshing.

I always wished Sylar was done with after the first season. I won't be watching.

Definitely a mediocre premier. I don't think I've ever been so back and forth on a show. Sometimes it sucks so much yet sometimes its so great. I don't get what's with the writers. Are they just randomly replacing writers or something?

^^ I thought the exact same thing. They begin so many story lines and don't end them.

This show has become completely pointless and with each episode it just gets worse and worse. I'm pretty sure this will be the last season... its like the writers/producers have already given up.

This isn't a bad show. It seems like the writers tho have issues i the middle of every season and try to just let the story work itself out.

BUT, they do a decent job with ending the season and making you want more.

I don't know about the current season, (just watched the first 4 seasons on DVD), but this whole jumping into the future seeing the "bad things and the end of the world" and then battling it to stop is a good way to keep a show going, but I'd have liked it a little more if the writers would jump back and forth so that we could see some of the "changes" to the future as they happen. OR what about having someone jump back from the future trying to change the past because he was happy with his life as it was?

At times this is one of the sloppiest written shows I've ever seen and others it is well scripted, thought out and fun to watch. The one true thing I do enjoy over and over is Hiro and Ando's comic relief but those times are getting fewer and far between. If those go, I'll probably stop watching all together. I'd rather see more of Hiro and Ando and the comic relief than to watch Parkman shaking his head and holding off the bad guys.

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Iwas not a Sylar fan, thought his was a very one dimensional character. What I found is in times when he was "with the company", or the future where he gives Peter his power, and even with the kid on his way to find his dad. He can add a lot when he shows some form of humanity and inner turmoil. Problem is the writers seem to keep liking him as a one dimensional character. while everyone else gets deeper and more substantive in their character.

I'd like to see an episode where the entire cast is wiped out. Especially Sylar. If the show absolutely has to continue, they need a new cast and new writers. Maybe they can finally address where the powers came from and what they ultimately mean.