I'm so glad the Paire "love story" has been quashed. It was probably the stupidest thing speculated about the show: a 15 year old girl hooking up with a late 20s-30s nurse channeling Keanu Reaves. No thanks. I thought the Hiro-Charlie love-line would have been more interesting or even Parkman and Audrey or Claire-Zach.

Actually, I find Peter's storyline more and more annoying. He's not very convincing and his character is just too "weenieish". The Claude Rains introduction has just made it worse as he is very annoying too, especially with that awful accent.

Plus, I found it bothersome with his retention of powers. I feel it makes him too powerful and unbalances the show although it does make an interesting contrast by establishing a Peter/Sylar binary.

Idunno, maybe it's Peter's constant playing with his hair and Keanu Reaves acting that bothers me.

What happened with the rest of the guys? I was so looking forward to Ted and Hana meeting (maybe joining forces) and perhaps even joining up with Matt.

What ever happened to the money that Micah stole from the ATMs? Did DL make him take it all back or what? Is Micah on his way to becoming a juvenile delinquent?

Then I wonder if Hana and Micah might cross paths. It only seems natural, she being able to read/hear all telecommunications messages and he being able to talk machines. Or are they being set up to face off against each other?

Still wondering how HRG got out of the cell. So does this mean that the Haitian has two powers?
1. Mind erasing
2. Power blocking?

It seems like Sylar is afraid of the Haitian.

Yeah, the Star Trek shout out was awesome - NCC-1701!!

Claude is just a great character. I like his hands-on approach to dealing with Peter, and his comment about Peters bangs was funny as hell.

So maybe well find out that Jessica is pregnant with Petrellis 2nd baby or something (after that hotel room fling)...then there will be 2 super hero babies...?

Have to say I come to this thread late but have reade most of the posts here. I am a big fan of the show and I was very happy to see this. Hope to be able to connect and chat with the rest of you as the Heroes story unfolds.

I thought it was well established that the Haitian could block powers.

I don't think it has ever been confirmed.

Maybe not confirmed but every time CopMan tries to read someone's mind and can't, the camera pans to HaitianMan lurking nearby focusing on him. It's happened at least twice.

And the reason why Sylar was powerless when captured.

It may be possible that the haitain can block out powers that deal with the mind. ie: mind reading, telekinesis.

If that is the case, nikki in her jessica form will still be super strong.

true, his mind erasing powers could just be extended to stopping mind powers when he is in the vicinity.

Ahhh, but isn't Jessica a manifestation of her "mind"? I realize we can infer that the Haitian has "power blocking" ability per se, but it was never really stated.

Because if the Haitian can block all abilities, then he becomes really powerful? What happens if and when he meets Peter? Will the Haitian block Peter's ability to absorb his ability to block abilities?

I'm going to bed....

I think it's been pretty strongly implied that the Haitian Sensation is a psy blocker as well as a memory eraser. I can't think he'd be able to stop Ted from nuking out, for instance.

Or maybe like the artist, she only THINKS she can't use her powers when she is Jessica. I figure the story line on her will be her own personal triumph over Nikki at a time when she is needed most - hence becoming a true hero as some others have done.

The artist beat an addiction, Peter is working on something, Matt is working on his honesty with himself and his wife, DL is trying to become a dad. . . this is how the writers endear the characters to us. This is how they make the show compelling even though we have no powers (or at least none of YOU do . . . )

My name's on the list.

Wrong Michah. . .

I pretty sure it's me; I get this strange feeling every time Niki (Ali Larter) calls my name... ;)

For all of you who are so sure that the Haitian has indeed "been confirmed" as being able to block powers, then why was Nathan able to fly away? Also, if that's true, then all they have to do is have the Haitian stand next to Peter to prevent New York from exploding. He could then block Peter's powers right?

The blocking of "mind-based" powers sounds a bit more reasonable. I'm sure we will find out soon enough about the Haitian.

Some thoughts. . .

If I am ever assassinated, please make it a 6 ft tall blond Ali Larter in a black pants suit and high heels. By the FSM, that was a hot outfit. Better than Lingerie or a bikini if you ask me.

If Syler kills Nikki / Jessica, what exactly would he get? Going back to my previous post's theory, I think Nikki had this multiple personality disorder thing independent of the super power. Jess just knows how to exploit it better since she is more in tune with Nikki's subconscious mind. At least that is how it OUGHT to work. . .

I am sad that Matt took the diamonds. Life is screwing him right now, but compromising your morals just makes you rot inside no matter who the diamonds belonged to.

Primatech - who owns this thing? You figure the most likely person is Linderman right? That would be a little less interesting though wouldn't it? I mean to even a casual viewer, Linderman is tied to everything. They also haven't shown him a la M. Night Shyamalan. It would be better writing if that was a sucker hole for us all to fall into and instead it was someone else that really held the puppet master's strings. How about Nathan and Peter's mom? That would be pretty neato. Incidentally, it was nice to see a bit of good in Nathan this week. He wanted to do the right thing despite his circumstances.

Two weeks. . . is that all we have? Correct me if I am wrong, but so far I can't see any examples of any of the heros changing the future (the future as seen in person by Hiro or that depicted by Isaac). Help me out with this one. Not sure. So Isaac is dead soon and the city blows up. What happens to the show after that? How much time has passed so far (not including flashbacks and travels back in time)? Lets call the "start" when Hiro and Ando leave for the US. Any idea?

He's a psy blocker, that's all. Physical powers like flying, tear-the-motherfucka-in-half super strength, and going nuclear, he has no power over.

There are certain heroes whose powers, while not "under control" require a certain amount of volition. If Hatian came up against Jessica, he could presumably mind-wipe her and render her harmless. He could likewise take away all memory of flying from Nathan. If he took Ted's memory, though, Ted would probably just explode.

Oh MAN. Her scene in the stairs with Parker.... She can tear me in half any day.

That's exactly who I was thinking of. Mama Petrelli is Linderman!

Either that or Micah...

I was very surprised to see Nathan have feelings about the whole think as well. I didn't think he was shakable at all, especially since he jumped out of the car on his wife and left her to possibly die. I do think his and Peers mom is going to come out as something significant as well. But I don't think it will be Linderman..

Nathan flying out of the car was unintentional. It was when his powers first manifested and he was unable to control it.

I thought this week's episode was one of the best. Peter flying was a cool moment and I always like when characters who we spent time getting to know are killed off. Nice.

BTW - Peter doesn't have any powers that save OTHER people lives does he? Maybe she is not dead yet.

I don't understand how Simone can be dead though. She is near Peter when he explodes.

I was wondering about things like this a couple posts ago. . .

The accounts we have of Peter blowing up are in his dreams . . . which lets face it are DREAMS. . . and Issac's paintings. His paintings have a degree of interpretation to them as well. Remember that Peter was flying in the one (really he was falling at that point) and Hero was fighting a Dinosaur in another (model at a museum). Maybe Isaac was painting Peter's dreams and not the future. . . I dunno.

Ugh, this series is starting to drag.

I find Peter to be very annoying. What a little whiny bitch, he is easily my least favorite character on the show. Plus it's getting a little ridiculous that he's getting so powerful. He was very mean to Isaac for no good reason. I hope Claude has disappeared for good. He was such a lame character and that weak-ass British accent is so bad.

I am so glad Simone was killed. She was really getting annoying too. No redeeming value at all. What a heartless bitch.

Hiro needs to grow up. His little boy act is getting old fast. What a wuss!! Hopefully they will go back to developing his storyline and character. It sucks that Ando is going back. I thought he was a good pairing with Hiro.

The Mohinder-Sylar story is getting real creepy. And I really wish they would stop introducing these characters just to have them killed off. I wanted to know more about Dale and even Zane from the last episode. I found it really interesting that Mohinder views the abilities almost like a virus. He sounded almost sinister when he mentioned he wanted to "help" them by giving them an inhibitor. Yikes!! I don't think Sylar would like that... Or maybe he is th key to stopping Sylar if he gives the inhibitor thingy to Sylar and takes away his powers.

I think Claire has finally lost it or at least on the verge of doing so. She's been through too much, especially for a teenager. Poor kid.

I am pretty pysched about getting the Ted-Hanna-Matt thingy, even if it did take a few weeks. I totally want to see Ted throwing radioactive fireballs.

Man, Matt, you are sinking deeper and deeper.... I thought he was going to return the diamonds to Linderman, putting him in Vegas. Maybe getting a reward or whatever, but man, he just stole Linderman's diamonds.... bad, very bad. He's gonna showdown with Jessica again.

The dreams are just that - dreams. Peter was known as the Dreamer earlier on. I guess that was his "power" sort of. There's supposed to be some sort of connection with him, the dreams, Charles Deveaux, and the little Indian kid that appears in people's dreams. But it seems like the writers ditched that idea or something.

I still like the series alot but I'm getting a bit antsy. There doesn't appear to be an end in sight. Too many characters or something.

Oh yeah, the Stan Lee cameo was priceless. But the Star Trek thing Hiro does has got to stop (you're overdoing it).

The actor (Christopher Eccleston) is from Britain. ;)
He was Doctor Who in Season One of the new series.

:thumbsup:

Sure, sure, I know that. It's just that I find his accent and character to be highly irritating. Something about that regional accent.

Peter is an empath. That was obviouse to me from the get go, with Simones father. that is why he was a good nurse. That is where all his powers stem from. I don't think he explodes. I think he saw the explosion from the point of view of nuke boy. His empathy just showed the view as first person, so he THINKS it's him that explodes. It's why he has to think about the person who's power he wants to use. He has to "feel" them. Hum, I wonder if that would mean that if he dreams about someone, touches them empathicly like that, can he use their power without ever actually meeting them in real life?

I just watched the episode last night and loved it. Unfortunately my PVR recording ended in the middle of the fight between Isaac and Peter. Can someone please recap what happened? How did simone die? What else did I miss? Did this episode run long or did my PVR screw up?

Dave

isaac has a gun which he aims at peter. peter goes invisible. isaac hears something and fires. It turns out he shoots simone

If Sylar is having trouble controlling his super-hearing, how can he ride in a car with the Doc? An iPod is killing him from 40 feet away.

BTW, nice cameo from Stan the Man. Excelsior!

I loved the episode this week.

A few questions are coming to mind: If Peter's dreams are true, then how is Simone in his dreams during the explosion? I'm starting to think maybe his dreams show what might happen, but the details are sketchy?

Also, remember how future Hiro said that he didn't recognize Peter without his scar? How does he get the scar? I took it to mean from the explosion, and somehow he lives (through using clair's ability, kind of a stretch though).

I liked seeing the sort of darker side of Peter, during the fight with Isaac. Him using Sylar's telekinesis hinted at that. I think Peter is going to go through what Sylar did since they are both gaining powers at a tremendous rate. He will go through some moral trial where he could either become a major bad guy or a major good guy. I think in the end he will become the anti-Sylar.

I wonder how long Sylar is planning to use the "I'm Zane" charade? If he continues what he's doing, Mohinder's going to notice.

That's the thing about Sylar. He's not just evil. He's also a dick.

Just so everyone knows, if you want to see last week's episode (or any of 'em for that matter if I recall) just go to http://www.nbc.com/heroes and click on "miss an episode."

Poor Zane. My home town gets a hero, and he gets killed his first episode. I'm a little bitter about that.

That rant's a couple weeks late, I know.

And I'm looking foreward to find out exactly who HRG works for. Still not sure about him... though his methods are questionable (having the Haitian erase memories left and right), he seems to genuinely care about Claire's well-being (getting her taken off Pappa Saresh's list, for a start). And he said Sylar deserved to die, but he wasn't authorized to kill him.

Oooh, yeah this week we should be finding out a lot about HRG. I'm guessing we'll get a "origins" type episode. I wonder how the showdown between Matt, Ted and HRG will go down. I'm not sure Hannah will be there though cause I think she went after HRG's boss. That's who she really want to take down. I think HRG is generally speaking, "good". But it will be interesting to find out more of the "why" and "what" of their organization.

Lots of questions there. Did the org give them their abilities or is it really genetic mutation (evolution)? Is it Linderman at the top there? What's with the catch and release program?

Well, we do know that HRG had a comprehensive training program going on in Alaska where they trained Hannah. And then that they send the "heroes" out on missions like Hannah's African mission. But they are not tied in with the government.

I'm with you on the intro-then-kill a new character thing. It'd be nice to have them around a bit longer. But then again, the cast is getting to be too big and too many storylines already.

Well, I got the impression it wasn't the iPod, but rather perhaps something to do with the fact he killed that woman, the method he uses to steal powers. The flashbacks, iirc, seemed to focus more on her than on her music.

That's interesting insight. I also thought it was the iPod that was bothering him cause he couldn't control it yet. I wonder if the show will elaborate more on this.

If what you speculate is correct, that would seem to imply that Sylar has a conscience? Despite the general ambiguity of the characters' in the show alliances (good v evil), it seemed pretty clear that Sylar was evil or at least bad-getting worse. The quest and lust for more power has further warped Sylar's mind. He certainly kills with reckless abandon and it is not just limited to people with abilities. He also takes innocent lives like the truck driver in Texas, his "torture" of Mrs. Bennet, all demonstrate a raised level of psychosis. Same with Peter. In some ways, you can see Peter heading down a similar path ala "power corrupts" etc. The guy is getting worse and revealed his dark side in his cruel treatment of Isaac.

I wonder how long Sylar is planning to use the "I'm Zane" charade? If he continues what he's doing, Mohinder's going to notice.

I think his headaches were more the getting used to the powers he had just aquired, as she stated she had bad headaches and things at the start as well..

I just thought it was the ipod because that was the biggest frequency or the sound.

but that anything else would bug him to at that high of a frequency rate.

Perhaps a conscience, or the fact he's going against nature. Remember, he can see how things work as his natural power. Doesn't mean he can always put them back together, especially when it comes to life yknow? It seems that he assumed he knew exactly how life worked, like he knew how to work machines. I got the impression he's finding out otherwise.

Yeah. I think the one thing that made me think otherwise was the fact that he had the radio on in the car...or I thought he did anyway. I assumed that was to drown out the noise.

Maybe someone has brought this up before in this thread and I missed it, but it just occurred to me.

If Claire's family wasn't able to have any children when they adopted Claire, where did her brother come from?

Fertility clinic or another super human that hasn't found his abilities?

Couples that have trouble concieving children start having kids after an adoption. That happened to a friend of mine. After he was adopted, his parents gave birth to 3 kids afterwards.

Last night's episode was interesting. I guess Mr. Bennet isn't really the bad guy. More of a misunderstood anti-hero.

episode five just ran here in asia... i can't wait to catch up to you guys so i can actually read the rest of this thread (i am just posting this without reading anymore).

i am not going to speculate on anything because i am much of it has been laid out already.

all i am going to say is this series is awesome. i am hoping it gets better.

ohhh my friend.. it does.. it gets MUCH better!.. your only on ep 5.. I speculate I have a mild form of Issac's power as i can see your furture... you will become engrossed with this series and will rack your brain trying to wrap your head around all the twists and turns. good luck and god speed.

Finally!!! What an awesome episode, much better than the last two. So much explained and more questions aroused.

So is Thompson the top of OWI or is there another head above him? I get the feeling that an organization like that has a higher layer that never hits the field, more of a behind closed doors thing. Still, it was kind of dumb for him to shoot at Ted, because if he was paying attention at all he should have known what Ted can do.

The back story was phenomenal. I love the scene on the rooftop of the Deveaux building when Hiro's father was giving Claire to HRG. And what's up with everyone speaking Japanese, it makes me think Mr. Nakamura is the guy at the top or at the very least, very high up.

I thought there was going to be more behind how HRG got his glasses.

Loved the bridge scenes, nicely done. Beautiful and very symbolic.

I was really itching to see Hannah though. We do know that she wanted to go after the higher ups but I wanted to follow that story. Plus, I thought it would have been good if she was at the Bennett house and PrimaTech cause then she could have intercepted a lot of the communications and gotten some answers for our trio.

Lyle is also adopted by the way. Besides, the Bennetts didn't adopt Claire by choice, HRG was ordered to, although there does seem to be some discrepancy as to the motive. In the episode, it appears HRG is quite uncomfortable with the notion of adopting or caring for Claire, but is ordered to do so by Mr. Nakumura. But in the graphic novel, HRG appears to have softened and vows to take care of Claire.

Man, what is up with Simone coming back from the dead? Please don't let that happen, that would be so lame. I think she sucked so I was happy when they offed her.

The more I think about it, the more I think Mr. Deveaux may have been an empath. And Peter "absorbed" his power. There is something very significant about the building (the rooftop), Deveaux, Claude, and Peter that is all tied together. Maybe even Simone a little too but she was supposed to have died.

I wonder who the other "new" partner is. This Candice. She kind of looks like Hannah but I'm curious to see what her ability is. Will Parkman end up working for OWI or will he refuse?

Anyways, finally, a great episode. Can't wait til next week.

Don't you think when radioactive man created a mini-explosion in the house that the other heroes would have received some major radiation poisoning?

Well, the "science and physics" on this show is already challenged.

There is usually an amount of suspended disbelief you should allow for a show, especially a science fiction show, and more so, a show about mutations.:thumbsup:

I loved the last episode!

Just finished watching today's episode.

I have to say that I really enjoyed this one. But at the same time, makes you start to wonder... who DOESN'T know something about the heroes? Seems that outsiders know more than the actual heroes :lol:

In tonight's episode, at least Hiro's day went well. This series has been a real downer lately.

I agree, and one of the biggest downers are these breaks. I mean the show rocked the first episodes. Since the first break, they haven't been nearly as good, and now we have to wait another 7 weeks?

I was so excited for Hiro to get his sword, and because he gets it dissappears and I have to wait 7 weeks I was kind of like eh, whatever.

And please, Claire's dad is supposed to be pretty smart right. He couldn't figure out the possibility that it might not be his wife he's really talking to? Painfull...

I'm thoroughly depressed, I was so in to this show earlier this season, but the disappointments have been piling up lately.

I'm still a huge fan of this show! I, too, hate the breaks - but every show has them. At least by the time May Sweeps rolls around, we should be seeing the very best the show has to offer. And, hopefully, some big questions will get answered. It looks like Nathan & Peter's mother definitely knows more than she led on. Exactly how much does she know?

Can anyone translate what the Haitian and Claire's grandma (Mrs. Petrelli) were saying to each other?

I took French in high school, but that is longer ago then I wish to admit.

A shape shifter!!.. thats just awesome.. my heart just sank when it wasnt HRG's wife he was confiding in... I kinda seen it coming , but still!.. And I guess we also see how peter gets his scar!!.... Should be a good battle between sylar and peter.. 7 weeks?... damnit... just damnit...

OK, I've cooled off now, and am still crazy about this show, but my thoughts exactly about the 7 weeks.

Tonight's episode was GREAT. Or it could be that the withdrawl I was suffering from the lack of Heroes has ended.

They're putting shape shifter girl to a lot of use. I wish they'd say something about her.

And i'm really curious about how isaac teaches the others how to kill sylar.

fantastic episode! I really like the actor playing Linderman, and I still dislike Nikki/Jessica and Micah. Their story just bugs the hell out of me. I can't wait for next week, the future they don't want to happen.

This episode was awesome. Next week will be FREAKIN awesome.

Linderman is played by Malcom McDowell. IMDB him--it's a major coup for Heroes to have gotten him.

I wonder what Mama Petrelli's power is.

Also, who doesn't remove a big-ass glass shard from a seemingly dead guy, to show a little bit of respect for the dead?

Weren't they curious how he died?

Me too my friend, though I wonder maybe if it has to do with some sort of Iassic like power as when Nathan and Peter we talking at the end she said something like she had known their decision or something along those lines.

Interesting how her and Linderman and popping up with powers. I wonder what Linderman needs Micah for, at first I was thinking to fix the computer with the 'list' on it but I don't think so now as he seems to already know about most of them.

Hard to believe this season is almost over and next season is a whole 'nother storyline with new characters (which is both really cool and kind of sucks).

I was thinking that it was probably something in his sketch book that he gave the delivery guy - or something that was in the last comic book he drew. Just my guess, though.

I would assume that the newest comic that he sent to the publisher would be the instruction manual.

You know, I think Issac can fight the future, he's just in denial about it. I mean, he could have simply, not been home, the night that Sylar would come by to kill him :)

And there was a golden oppertunity to put a bullet in Sylar's brain this episode, and they didn't take it. ARG!

Seriously, you've knocked him out cold and you decide to......run away?

Probably, after trying to shoot Sylar and see him stop the bullet and then having him cut you up and stick you to the ceiling for an undetermined amount of time, Mohinder was just scared and ready to run for his life.

Maybe Sylars out for a minute, maybe an hour, but do you really want to chance the time to pick up the gun and shoot him?

As opposed to carrying a dead man over your shoulders out the apartment?


But yeah, people don't exactly do the most rational things when they are scared.

I'm not into the series as much as I was before the break. The episode wasn't up to par with the rest of them. I find myself more interested in lost again. I heard the ratings are down a bunch also. The moral of the story is that the networks need to stop placing insanely long breaks in the middle of the seasons. Just make enough episodes to cover the whole season!

i hear you.. What's up withthat anyways? a season should be: sept to may. end of story. Re-runs during summer. No breaks for anything special and no repeats during the season.

don't tell me that it's too expensive. It's the cost of doing business. At this point I just want to borrow the series on DVD after it has completed.

Yeah, and put him in a taxi?!? :lol:

Yeah, that had me curious too. How DOES someone transport a dead guy around New York? My assumption is that Mohinder still has his cab.

I figure to do something to steal the election. Either influence the polls since most people just want to vote for the winner or to do the actual manipulation of the results.

Do you have a clip of it?

I forgot that Mohinder had a cab, but he's been home to India and returned since then. He wasn't in a cab when they met the Super-hearing lady (rip). :lol:

Hey, did you guys notice that Syler used Prosuader Girl's power on Isaac in his apartment shortly before crusifying him to the floor?

He didn't, and he couldn't have-- Eden shot herself so he wouldn't get her power. That was just a nifty "ooh, look how evil I am" effect. Otherwise he could have commanded Mohinder to let him go, etc.

No, he does do the voice. I believe that Syler found what he needed from what was left of Eden's brain. Isaac couldn't show Sylar "The Plan" because he doesn't have it. And getting "brushed" to the floor broke the suggestion. Besides, the show has plenty of otherwise this, and why didn't they do that. :)

Sylar is pretty hardcore in this future episode since he killed the shape shifter illusionist and everyone else who had awesome powers. I just hope someone can destroy Sylar, but it doesn't look like it.

um, Spoiler: this episode foreshadowed Sylar's death (in the present). Since Claire was saved, Hiro can do what future Hiro did but failed. And it was a totally awesome episode! Future Hiro and Peter were great. Parkman being a bad guy was pretty neato.

This episode, "Five Years On", was the best hour I've seen on television in I don't know how long. Even for Heroes, this was an extraordinary episode.

I have yet o watch an episode of Heores, but after finding an online stream of the show, I will watch the eighteen or so episodes in order to provide a healthy discussion point in future posts. See you Heroes fans in a couple of days, and be kindly receptive to any confusion or question I may have about the story, characters, etc.

Onward to Episode 1! :D

Spoiler: But that guy in the comic that Mohinder gave present Hiro....was that Peter he's stabbing with the sword? Isn't Peter the one that blows up? Hiro would kill him in New York the day after the election, right?

I really didn't think this episode would be any good. It felt like the filler to fill all fillers, but it turned out to be pretty damn awesome. As much as they've built up to the death of Sylar, I can't imagine the reality is even going to come close to satisfying.

Spoiler: Well yes it is peter that blows up, I guess we will have to see what happens in the next few episodes. It could be that sylar is the reason peter blows up (or something, I have no clue). I don't really think the comic picture looked like Peter, but it could be. At least if Sylar is dead, he can't become future president.

The picture in the comic book looked a lot like nathan to me.....

I totally agree. I was discussing this with Fat_Boy and he brought up and interesting point:

Peter has to win his fight with future Syler. If not he will open up Hiro's brain and travel all over the timeline messing things up regardless of what fixes they manage to make.

I doubt they address this but it is a cool paradox situation.

Good point. Along the same lines, Peter can also go back in time and undo anything major. This would be easy since he seems to have mastery over his absorbed powers in the future.

Time travel in Heroes is a very iffy endever. With Hiro and Charlie, she had learned japanese from a person that left her a book of japanese phrases. And when Hiro goes back in time to save her, he gives Charlie a japanese phrase book. So that means that she learned that language from Hiro in the first place, but no one recognizes him when Hiro arrives in the present (the day that Sylar kills her), and when he returns after having failed to warn her about "the brain man". Especially since Hiro worked there bussing tables for a few months!

And for a moment, when I first saw future Clarie as a brunette, I thought it was Amanda Bines from the show, What I Like About You :)

Quick question: Has it ever been established that Sylar can take powers from dead people?

I think the other person has to be alive in order for Sylar to take their power.

Although I suspect it wasn't the right time (and possibly the right person, who knows, now there's three potential human nukes, although wait, Syler would have to kill the original nuke dude to be able to be a nuke himself), I was frustrated that even after seeing Isaac mangled on the floor, and after what happened to his love Charlie the Memory Girl, Hiro still wasn't able to do what needed to be done.

And yeah, it doesn't seem that Syler was able to take Eve's power of persuasion after she blew her brains out.

What a lovely relationship Syler had with his mother, eh? I failed to feel *any* sympathy for his character at all, although I'm not sure that's what was intended.

I think it would have been kinda funny though if even though Syler took Isaac's ability to paint the future, that he wasn't anywhere as near as good as Isaac (Isaac being a painter before all this happened), and that the ominous figures Syler painted were like stick figures and stuff!

I wondered why they did not include Syler in the Larry King Live interview. I think that sucks, and I'd have really enjoyed seeing him with the rest of the cast.

Like Peter's flying sketch from way back the beginning of the series? Makes sense!

Well this last episode wasnt too exciting, but it needed it to set up the coming events. The next two episodes are going to be mind blowing, and I suspect the next week ending is going to make for one looong week! I am getting frustrated with Hiro. I really wish he would grow some balls and stop acting like such a wuss. And how was sylar able to "un freeze" when Hiro stoped time?... was his power a bit weaker as when he was getting the sword and could only slow time down?.. too many questions... too little time.

Naw, I think Hiro lost his focus and dropped into normal time. Note Momma Sylar falling in a dead heap, for instance.

Yeah, I thought this episode was a "transitional phase" for the last two episodes actions! Totally agree that the coming episodes will be killer!


On a sidenote, where did Sylar gain the ability to freeze and ice things over? :orly:

Are you guys reading the comic online?

It fills in a few blanks and shows how some characters came in.
http://www.nbc.com/Heroes/novels/

I am not sure "where", or who he got it from, but we did see this ability in the first, or second episode where he had killed Molly's parents. If you remeber her dad was frozen in his chair with his top cut off. I don't think we ever knew what molly's parents powers were. I also don't understand how molly can be the only one to stop slyar... she can only find him... so she's gonna go "he's over there!" and then sylar will hurl cars and ice and whatever at em... so not sure how's thats going to play out.

It was in the dude's opinion, he has yet to know about anyone other than the Mute, the Mind-Reader, the Shape-Shifter, and the Glowing-Hands Man.

Well if Sylar steals Candace "I can look like anyone"'s power as the "5 years past" episode suggested, then I'm guessing that Molly would be the only one who would be able to to point Sylar out in a crowd.

One of the questions that I have is, the very first time Hiro transported to the "future" and saw Isaac dead, I could've swore that he was all iced up, yet Sylar didn't use his freeze powers on Isaac in the "current time".

I don't know about that. I suspect he knows about most all the Heroes.