Just finished watching this week's episode. It was both eventful and uneventful at the same time. The story is coming together brilliantly, with so many possible cliffhangers for the last episode of the season.

I can't wait for the season finale!

Anyone know how long the break between this season and the next is?

Yes! Like last week, they kept rolling stuff out to set everything up for the conclusion...
I can't wait for the finale, yet I'm upset that after next week there will be no new episodes until next season. It's been a few years since I've been this hooked on a show, so I hope the withdrawal isn't too bad!

Spoiler: Am I the only one who suspects Sylar's freezing power is going to play a part in bringing him down during the battle with Peter?

Something that has bothered me since it occurred: Peter has super-hearing. Are they ever going to acknowledge that he gained this power from Sylar? How come he hasn't discovered it yet?

There's a lot of abilities that Peter could've picked up from Sylar that he doesn't know about besides the super hearing, like the photographic memory, and the ability to liquefy solid objects.

Or the most frightful ability of all, to see how things work. Mwa hahahaha :)

Hiro's character has gotten real annoying in the past few episodes. What a f'n wuss. He used to be one of my favorites but now I find him to be lame.

Also, I felt Sylar is getting to powerful and the fact that he was sop easily able to get Ted was disappointing.

Sylar is so powerful because he stole the quick learning power from the cafe worker. That is why he is able to use his powers so much better than the people who actually had the power originally. He learns to control it quicker. If only Peter realized Sylar had this power he could use it too.

I realized a hole in the story last night. The girl who can look like anyone does not shape shift as she said she makes people see what she wants. Suggesting that she has some sort of illusion power. This was used when Micah tried to run. This suggests that she alters peoples minds to make them see other things. If this were the case wouldn't recorded material still show the original image, thus future Sylar as Nathan would not work because everyone would see him as Sylar when they saw him on TV.

So next season is going to run all new characters right? That suggests that this season will not have any huge cliff hangers relating to these characters as they won't be in next season to resolve them.

Yeah, apparently next week's episode will wrap up this whole season-long story. Then there will be a short off-season spinoff called Heroes: Origins, which will introduce new characters in a different storyline. They're going to take fan voting on who from that spinoff should show up in Season 2.

I don't think she alters minds at all. Micah--when discussing her power briefly--mentioned something about bending light. Light bent is light bent, right? The cameras would be fooled just as the human eye is, I believe.

I wouldn't take the "all new characters" idea too literally. Successful productions don't just dump their entire casts. We have the term "Jumped the shark" for this very reason.

I imagine that a core of this season's most popular and attractive cast members will survive the cliff hanger to form the heart of next season's storyline. Can you honestly imagine NBC dropping a commodity like Claire or Hiro from the show? Besides, someone has to unite and mentor the disparate newcomers.

A natural storyline has Nathan elected and the survivors from this season fighting for social and political rights a la X-Men. (Bleh)

I also expect the resurgence of Eric Roberts' Anti-mutant government agency under some new creep's guidance.

Have the producers really stated that they are going to replace the entire cast?

So, it looks like the League of Geriatric Mutants (Linderman, Mama Patrelli, etc.) have been trying to breed mutants with higher power levels. i.e. Jessica + DL = Micha

So does that mean that Sen. Patrelli's wife has some kind of latent powers and even if she does, what about his kids?

We know for a fact that Old Man Petrelli had powers.

I'm confused, where did you read or hear this?

Oh, SURELY our favorites from Season 1 will be making plenty of appearances. But I could see us picking up the new season with an all-new storyline with some new or lesser-known characters.

I think it would be better that way. If they keep the cast intact, it would end up like Twin Peaks. Great show, until we finally figured out who killed Laura Palmer. Then, there was no point in watching anymore.

Somehow, I don't think watching them try to figure out what to do now that they've saved the world would be as interesting. Even if they did create a us-vs-them type of storyline, I think it would mirror too much of what The 4400 is doing now (get your free Promecin here!!!!!)

I thought the final battle between Sylar and Peter Petrelli would have been a little more action packed, but it was a bit of a let down..

Heroes season 1 went surprisingly well since most season 1 shows take an entire season just for character development (like Lost)..

Man, the scene back at Nakamura Enterprises was BRILLIANT. They got right up to the line of corny overly-sincere hero-talk, and then smashed that all to bits with goofy Hiro-and-Ando geekery. It was beautiful! That RIGHT THERE is why I love this show.

My only disappointment is that Syler is still alive. To me, that A: undercuts Hiro's accomplishment and B: is a cheap cliche. He's a dick and I wanted him dead.

Am I the only one who was hoping that back in ancient Japan, when Hiro turned his gaze up to the looming shadow, he'd see a giant spaceship?

Season one has set a fine standard. Here's to the next one. :thumbsup:

Me too. Not to get into the same argument as the BSG thread, but the cliche no one saw him slink away thing is crap. I think that if nothing else, Mohinder would make sure he was dead this time. He would grab Claire's gun and cap him a few times for good measure.

That being said - how DID he get away? You saw the blood trail to the sewer. Then what was that . . .slime? I don't understand.

Also disappointed by the fight with Peter. I think if you have the powers that Peter and Syler have, the person who uses them most creatively would ultimately win. No real reason that Peter could not stop time, catch his breath and jack up Syler. There are a million and one ways he could win if he just thought about it. Coincidentally, I always think that the Green Lantern suffers from similar creativity problems.

I don't think Sylar's alive. It looks like somebody or something dragged him down into the sewer. Maybe it was a Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtle or something.

I forgot about the new and last episode of this season.



/me excuses himself to go watch "Heroes" now.

No kidding. Green Lanterns can create whatever their little heart desires to work with and it's always a big giant hand, a bubble, or some sort of brick wall. I guess that's fairly utilitarian, but not very creative.

The whole last act was pretty lame. Stop time, turn invisible, fling something sharp at him and bitch slap Sylar up and down the plaza. He has all these superhuman abilities and he punches him? And why did Nathan have to die? Sure it's his redemption, but couldn't Peter just fly up himself? Did Peter survive the explosion? If he was going to die anyway, why not just shoot him there? For that matter, why not just "kill" him to temporarily disrupt his 'nuking up' and then wait for Claire's power to bring him back?

And did Nikki always have the super strength?

Her super strength was a Ruby Slipper. She has the power all along. Once she overcame Jessica, she had access to it directly. Turns out she WAS bat-shit crazy all along.

That was a cool moment, though, when she and Peter meet for the first time. Suddenly he's got super strength. "You go take care of your family. I've got this." BLAM!

I was thinking about why didnt Peter fly up and I was thinking maybe he can only use one power at a time? So with the melt down happening he wouldnt be able to do anything else? or maybe with the meltdown it messes him up at least so he is unable to do anything else.

I was really hoping for a much bigger fight as well, I knew I was going to be dissapointed when there was only one hour for the finale instead of 90 minutes or 2 hours.

I thought season 1 ended in a pretty anti-climactic fashion. Hopefully season 2 brings more super powered battles.

I could be wrong, but it looked like a cockroach to me. There was also a cockroach in his holding cell after Eden and the Haitian had captured him. It signifies his ability to pretty much live through anything (like cockroaches being able to survive nuclear explosions).

Great season in my opinion.

I didn't follow this season as closely as most (I missed a few episodes). But what is up with this new super evil bad guy that is worse than Syler?? The one that the little girl was talking about. Was there any other mention of this new super evil guy in any other episodes or is he going to be the new big bad of future seasons??

Re: the flying bit. Wasn't there an episode earlier when he was trying to learn his powers, when he had to associate a feeling or mindset of the original persons power to be able to mimic it? If that is the case, his brother being kinda slimy has kept him from being able to mimic him.

Whatever happened to The Haitian? After he caught up with Claire at the Petrelli house, he just disappeared.

Just finished watching the Heroes season finale. So Nathan has to be dead, but is Peter still alive? And further, why didn't Peter just fly away since he has Nathan's ability?

Disappointing finale...

Oh, I don't know. Maybe he's busy with the whole not exploding thing :)

What if Peter can only use one power at a time?

And can Sylar still be alive?

I heard in an interview with the dude that plays Mat Parkman (who might live) that the next season will explore everyone's familys and their origins. Hence the title, Volume II: Generations.

finale was awesome. THe generations concept sounds very interesting. I thought that was gonna be separate from the season. Either way i'm still interested

we just had the finale here in Asia...

what an awesome series.

I really can't wait for season two.

Saw an advertisement that showed among a bunch of other box-sets, Heroes Season 1, with a release date of August 28th for those who are interested. Will probably be a sure buy for me since I loved the show, heres hoping for some badass special features!

It's available for pre-order on amazon.com. I'll have to search for some other links; when the release date was announced, a bunch of sites had lists of the special features. Have a look here.

I miss Heroes. Is it August yet?

bleh. too much talk of destiny or gay flashbacks in this serie. I was still super happy i watched it but some parts should have been replaced by some action or more interesting dialogs. I'm also wondering why Hiro didn't tell his friend he would be training swords for the next few hrs. made no sense whatsoever!

I hope the new season brings in some more interesting heros/vilains. Possibly more than just 1 bad ass. What about a bad ass like Sylar that trains other minions so it can be a good vs evil super power fight!

Well, the little girl who can locate people says there's a badder man than sylar. But unfortunately, we're also about 400 or so years in the past in season 2 (judging by the preview). So that character isn't likely to make an appearance.

Does anyone know when season 2 begins?

"NEW SEASON. NEW STORIES. SEASON TWO PREMIERES SEPTEMBER 24!"

From NBC's official Heroes site, oh and my season one dvd is pre-ordered... is yours? =D

Oh and I seriously hope they work the comics into the DVD somehow, I missed a comic here and there, but as a whole they made the season flow much more smoothly storyline-wise.

There's a new spinoff website from the Yamagato Fellowship that has a five-part mocumentary about the life of Takezo Kensei, Japan's greatest samurai. Based on how the season one ended, I'm going to take a wild stab here and say that Spoiler: Takezo Kensei = Hiro Nakamura

http://yamagatofellowship.org/videoEvents.shtml

Just finished watching the first ep. of season two. Showed lots of promise, let's hope they live up to it.

To QuasiMondo, I get the impression your spoiler tag might be true after tonights show.

I think Quasimodo has nailed it. I can totally see that happening as well.

Great first episode, I'm so glad that its back!

Awesome season premier! Sulu!

I just finished watching the premiere of the new season - very impressive. I didn't realise how much I missed the show!

I'm in two minds about the Spoiler: Hiro=Kensei thing. On the one hand, he did change history and could possibly start impersonate him. On the other, he'd know everything about him already, and would be changing history all the time. :hmm:

Can't wait for next week!

Well, unless TV Guide lied to me last month, your Kensi theories are way off.

Spoiler: When Hiro meets Kensei, he's not a man worthy of legends and bedtime stories. So Hiro helps him to be the man that he should be. But there's another complication, the woman that is to be Kensi's wife fails for Hiro. Oh, what is our geeky, time-stopping, Salary-man going to do?

I'd have to say, this is by far one of the most entertaining shows on TV. The Season Premier keep on the edge of my seat the entire time!

Hiro = Best Character

told you so.

*EDIT* or was I a bit premature?

Spoiler: Hiro = dragon?

With what they put on the yamagoto web site, that is what I think. Hiro will realise at the end, that Kensei is worthy of being a hero.

Is it me or was episode 3 really tacky?

Just you.

Just kidding. What made you feel it was tacky? I thought the flying part was pretty cheesy, but I really enjoyed the rest of the episode. It definitely has me looking forward to next week's episode.

Tacky how??? while i thought it wasn't a "mind blowing" episode, I did feel that it moved the story along, we got to see sylar.... which I thought was great.. Where is he? who was candance, or whoever working with? and why can't he use his powers, or hers? I am feeling like the hiro story needs to move along, along with the mexican twins. Also I'm not sure how nicky is going to fit back into all of this. Either way I'm looking foward to next week when we find out more about the "boogyman".


Just a side note... is anybody else pissed off that we havne't yet seen peter's scar or how he got it??? I would have thought after going nuke that might have done it....

only way i can figure peter getting a scar and actually keeping it, would be if he gets the virus that everyone seems to be getting now, and that fights with his healing power he got from claire, somehow leaving him unable to heal that certain part.
similar (this is a stretch) to deadpool, in marvel comics. he was given part of wolverine's healing factor, but because of his cancer, he keeps recreating his scarred skin, instead of fully healing.
just a thought, anyway

The flying part and then Claire and emo boy kissing at the beach. Maybe that scene ruined it for me, hopefully next week will be better.

I couldn't help thinking about the crazy-ass powerful babies they'd have.... They'd come out of the womb belching flames and pooping uranium or something!

The sappiness doesn't come any more syrupy than that Hollywood scene.

Question:
Spoiler: If Sylar kills Maia, does he have to kill Alejendro too to control the curse?[

Yo!! Micah's cousin has the Sharingan!!! Uchiha clan represent!!

Yeah, the entire time claire was on screen was a total bore.

@ spoiler number 1 That's a good question. Do we even know what really happens to maya if she's left alone without her brother? So far the effects seem to be black contacts.

@spoiler number 2: :lol:

Man, that ending scene was creepy. I got goosebumps. It looks like the next episode will be better than this one, I really want to see what's going on with Peter.

I think this is the reason why both are still alive, Sylar don't fully understand the power. And of course he start to realize that not all power are good to have. The super hearing he got his so easily neutralize with little sound.

Just sat through the first 2 episodes of the new season ,& I'm hooked all over again.

The "Mysterious Girl" was clearly overhyped. Parkman's a dummy, and his dad is badass.

I'm loving season two. It's so intense. It's kind of sad though that they have so many story lines now, they can only fit about half of them into each episode. Anyone else find Nathan Petrelli's "face issues" really weird? I'm not sure what to make of it just yet..

I was begining to worry about this show because of the stupid Hiro plot line, but last night was awesome. I think Petrelli's alter ego face is like that becaude of the blast last season.

I'm totally digging Muscle-Mimic Girl!

I was thinking the same thing, but this raises another question. Why can no one else see his burns? Does he heal also now?

i'm pretty sure that his scarred "self" is all in his own head. guilt from what almost happened, for what he was almost responsible for. that's why the nightmare matt's dad put him in had him face off against that version of himself.
i'm thinking we'll see a little bit more of nathan's delusions, at least until peter shows up and tells people he's alive.

anyone else think West is mainly a douche?
i'm glad matt can now project thoughts into other people. it'll make waking molly up a whole lot easier

Agree with your thoughts on Big Petrelli. It isn't a dual personality thing like the blonde chic. It is all in his head.

Which one is Wes? Is that the Irish mob leader?

I can't wait to see the Parkman vs. Parkman nightmare showdown!

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I have nothing much else to add at this point, ...

except, perhaps. --
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My wife and I have been trying to figure who that chic is?^^

A Gorgeous Blonde.




(I believe it is Kirsten Bell, but her fame eludes me...)

I'm really growing tired of the Hiro plot.

yes. it is and she was really popular on Veronica Mars( a tv show that is still running I believe. never watched it though). and the 2006 horror called Pulse.

she was also on a Maxim cover just before that movie. I hope she can do more than just be annoying on this show! i want some smart and funny characters!! no more of these pussies or god lovers. it's getting repetitive as hell.

Finally, we get to the plot of season 2! No more storylines that wander about aimlessly!

And I thought Hiro would be stronger than that, but I guess he's only human, even if he can bend time.

The show Veronica Mars was canceled after the third season because CW thought they could use more stupid reality tv shows.

I did like her electric light saber move at the bar so hopefully we can see a bit more of her powers.

Peter vs. Elle who is going to win the fight?

I don't think we know enough about Elle to answer that question yet. Who's her dad, does he (do they) work for "The Company", does she have any additional powers?

As for Hiro and Kensei, why can't Hiro just go back in time and not kiss the girl?? Wouldn't that fix his current problem?

Well, regardless of what powers she has, Peter will have them too. So I think it's safe to say that peter will win most fights.

Perhaps that kiss is part of history as well? You can never be sure about these things. Maybe this is how Kensei is able to destroy all the guns (ie: he gets close to whitebeard).

It's true that Peter will get them, so I suppose it's a matter of how long it would take him to master them.

And I like that theory, I'd never thought of it that way before. :)

I will channel Dark Helmet here and say that evil will win because good is dumb. Peter needs to be more creative when kicking a dude like Slyer's ass.

No question Hiro's acting like a moron.

I was very annoyed with last week's episode. I'm DONE with the History Hiro story line, and I'm not particularly interested in the Mexican Wonder Twins, either.

You don't looooove Majjja and Aleehandrrrro? Wonder Twin powers, activate! Form of: Get the hell off my TV!

I spent all last season shrieking with fangirl glee at the TV over Hiro, and now I'm done with it. Never thought I'd see the day when I'd be glad Hiro wasn't part of the mix that episode. Get him back to present-day and to fine-tuning his power, instead of running around saying "oh no, I break history!" Bleh. His lost-love storyline with Charlie was one of the sweetest and saddest things I'd ever seen, but this whole Japanese princess/drunken anti-hero/mopey Hiro is just too much for me. I hate that they've got these gorgeous intricate characters like Ambiguously Bad Daddy Bennett (love love love!) and Seriously BAD DADDY Parkman but then they drop the ball on a character who was absolutely amazing last season. Hiro was the reason I got hooked on the show-- my sister said she knew the minute they introduced him that I'd be a squeeing little addict-- and now I could care less if I watch his storyline anymore. Bring back your A-game, writers!

It seems to me that Peter has *already* met Elle, and absorbed her powers.
He had electricity shoot out of his hands in the cargo carrier when he was handcuffed inside, iirc.

She may be the one that shipped him.

Spoiler: Peter does have Elie's powers, as you see him shoot adam with electricity

Today's episode totally kicked ass, I can't wait for next week. Except for the fact that they'll probably ruin it by adding in the Twin powered wonders. :rolleyes:

I know Kensei has healing powers, but I didn't know he could stay young for 200-300 years?

Well, that's what healing powers to an extreme would do theoretically. We get old because eventually the number of cells produced < number of cells that die.

So if his cells are constantly regenerating/replacing themselves, it would make sense that he doesn't get old.

Don't tell anyone, but Adam is actually Sark... and he might have a Rambaldi device!

Well as far as the last episode goes, I loved most of it,,, and tolerated a few bits of it. Mostly I was growing very tired of the Hiro story and his whineing ways. But he was redeemed in my eyes with his sword fight with "adam" and then at the end with his interaction with Ando. I loved seeing them together again and hiro's face when he learned of his father. It will be interesting to see how that changes him and his attitude. So far I am liking the twist with Adam turning out to be the Kensi guy... didn't see that coming.... Loved the diaglouge between Nathen and Mohinder's boss dude... Nathen - "Who is Adam?".... other dude - " Adam is complicated" Nathen - "So uncomplicated it".
Also any ideas as to some of the other older generations powers that we don't know about? That newspaper clipping about snow in Florida and that guy saying it could have easily read Tsunami hits east coast... does this mean that somebody had power over weather? hmmm... maybe i'm reading too much into that. But I'm looking foward to next weeks episode to find out what happened after the bomb.... I don't know about the rest of you, but in some weird warped sense, I'm rooting for sylars powerfull return!

I was thinking when he first showed up "Sark can't possibly be a 'good guy'"

:confused:

Anybody else think HRG has Spoiler: the same powers as Adam now? -- He healed and came back to life like Adam did in the 16th Century, if I'm not mistaken.

If so, then Nathan does too.

Alias reference.

Am I crazy or are the timelines not lined up properly? The order of events as presented were Kaito Nakamura killed, then Adam escaped. If he escaped first, then Peter and Adam were free by episode one's murder of Kaito Nakamura... which suggests that it's possible all of the independent stories may not be happening simultaneously. I guess I should have figured this out with Nathan being healed in the first ep and then Adam healing him last time. It's all a bit confusing... I may need to make a big room with yarn and pictures a la Hiro to figure it all out. And I'll need a sword.

You'll definitely need a sword. But not to cut through this one--it's simple.

Peter sprung Adam in the episode named, you'll remember, "Four Months Ago"--after he exploded and was recovered by the company and given weeks worth of drugs. Peter was then hunted down, and shipped to Ireland by the Hatian Sensation, which is where Seasion 2 begins. Adam's killing spree starts immediately after that. Now (by which I mean "now"), Adam's in Ireland reminiscing with Peter.

Also: when you've got time travelers like Hiro and Peter around, there's no need to have the timeline be linear. Although in this case, it is.

I deserve to be confused for playing Desktop Tower Defense during the past few episodes.

Actually, the whole thing really is simple. Thanks for esplainin!

Bearing all that in mind... we're led to assume that Peter and Adam are allied considering that he and Peter met up again when he regained his memory by healing (which was badass). I wonder if Peter is playing a part in Adam's vendetta...

So was Glasses-Man cured using a serum derived from Adam or Claire's dna? Could this serum be a hedge against the coming virus?

Is Adam's name a play on the story of Adam and Eve? Who's the Eve in this arc? Claire?

It looks like it's just their blood. Apparently even a small amount can heal someone and bring them back from the dead. From this, it would make sense that they would also live forever. Just a small amount of blood heals a huge amount of damage so maybe the blood is replicating itself or directing the other cells. I'm probably looking into this too much plus I doubt the writers want to make it possible for other people to be immortal just because they got some blood.

I guess I missed when HRG got the blood.

Does anyone know if the fact there are only two episodes left is a result of the writers strike? The show is going to have to rush things to wrap it up I wonder how easy that will be to notice.

I just finished watching all the episodes in a row over the last couple of days.

Wow.

Why didn't I start watching sooner?

I agree with a lot of you that Hiro started wearing thin with his future self, but I don't think that was a fault. We weren't really supposed to like "future Hiro". He was a totally different guy, with different ideals and agendas, etc.

I also agree that the brother/sister team (who are Dominican, btw, not Mexican) is pretty much totally lame. I'll grant you that it makes for a pretty interesting "oh my God, what will Sylar do with THIS power" kind of plot line, and he needs to have a legitimate story for getting back to New York (not just "ok i'm here in NY now, I drove up with some lame characters no one cares about). Still, I think they've put way too much screen time into them because they're just really not that interesting. I think it's more about keeping Sylar on everyone's minds and the only way to do that is more scenes with the "nobody gives a shit about your character arc" sibling combo.

Elle is massively hot and totally sociopathic. She's awesome. I hope her character sticks around for a bit.

And the idea that Adam is like 400 years old makes perfect sense. If your body can heal by regenerating cells, that means no cell death. No cell death means nothing breaks down, weakens, or gets old. The cells would continually replenish. They could be immortal, really.

Yeah, she's a GREAT character. My prediction is that she'll spring HRG (a.k.a. Bennett, but he'll always be HRG to me) and go to work with him against daddy.

Which means Claire is too. Question is whether HRG and Nathan inherited those traits when they were infused with Claire and Peter's blood.

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I hope not, because that would set an odd precedent... gaining someone's powers, which are supposedly genetic in origin, simply by getting some of their blood. If they do go in that direction, though, it'll be interesting to see how else they leverage such a thing.