I don't know if Peter's way of gaining other's powers is proximity, or through touch.

Did he touch his brother and the painter before he got their powers?
'Cause I remember him bumping into Claire, and then later on touching her hand(s) when he's getting her to start running away from Sylar in the locker-room.

He touched Sylar, too, (besides being in his proximity) so I wonder if he has regenerative powers and telekenesis.

I thought a huge battle was going to take place at the high school, but I guess I should have realized everyone is still learning their powers. Except for Cyler, who seems to be uber powerful and did you see how he threw Claire into the wall? Her face was really smashed!

I was being dorky and decided to read a bit on NBC's own Heroes forum... and there was a theory discussed about Sylar that blew me away. No idea if it's what's gonna happen, but I thought it was great nonetheless. I'll spoiler it, just in case...

Spoiler:
Sylar is Peter, from the future (something that's been suggested here before, too). He has come back in time, using Hiro's powers that he's absorbed. But here's the real kicker: Sylar is the alter-ego that's created when Peter absorbs Nikki's powers of split personality / psycho-ness! I think that's a kick-ass idea, and I would be mightily impressed if that's what they did. I think it covers every angle... It gives a reason for Peter becoming evil, and it explains why Sylar let Peter get away so easily. He couldn't kill his past self, now could he? Thoughts?



edit: there's another idea i wanted to discuss, too. Maybe it's obvious, but what the hell. People have brought up the idea that maybe Claire is immortal/invulnerable/unkillable/whatever, and didn't really need protection from Sylar. But, remember she was incapacitated when that metal rod was shoved through her brain. She was unable to heal anything when she was, I guess, brain dead. And what does Sylar do? Steals your damn brain. So that might be an effective (and only?) way to kill her.

Moskie, I like your suggestion. But I would think that if your idea is true, Sylar shouldn't of had any problem identifying who Claire was. Instead, he killed the other one.

hm... good point.

maybe... maybe the other cheerleader had some abilities we didn't know about? Bitchitude? Ultra PMS? :D




grr... and he didn't seem to recognize Hiro in the diner, either.

I've always assumed that one of Sylar's powers is a sort of "gaydar" for special people. Maybe in the diner he knew he'd only have a shot at one of them, and picked Charlie.

What I want to know is: what's he doing with the brains?

Am I the only one who's wondered about Niki's tattoo?

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...roesSymbol.jpg

- well check this out:

Spoiler:
Appearing frequently throughout the series is a symbol which strongly resembles an RNA molecule. Said appearances include:

* Several flotation devices in the swimming pool at a crime scene float in this shape.
* As a recurring shape shown scrolling across a laptop screen in a genetic profiling program created by Chandra Suresh.
* On a drawing done by Peter Petrelli.
* Frequently painted by Isaac Mendez.
* On a post-it note on the map in Mohinder Suresh's apartment.
* Written on a geometry textbook owned by Claire Bennet.
* Written on pictures in Sylar's apartment.
* As a tattoo on Niki's back whenever her alternate personality surfaces.
* Engraved on the hilt of future Hiro's sword.
* Printed on the front of Chandra Suresh's book, Activating Evolution.
* Printed on the upper-left corner of the 14th issue of 9th Wonders! comic book, written by Isaac Mendez (the 13th issue that Micah was reading did not have the symbol).
* On a necklace worn by the Haitian.
* On a picture of Niki painted by Isaac. The symbol was hidden under an extra layer of paint.

A second symbol, consisting of two parallel lines, has appeared on the necks of two of the super-powered characters in the show:

* Matt Parkman, the telepathic main character.
* Ted Sprague, a character who appears to possess radiokinesis.



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More info about the RNA molecule

BUT at the end of the episode it shows Sylar getting captured, and what do those guys do when they capture someone? Yep, that's right, they have the haitian (sp?) wipe your memory.

It also shows Peter getting captured by the cops, perhaps that will be his turning point if he stays in prison. Maybe he even runs into Nikki there.

The only thing that seems off is that I thought his absorbtion powers wore off after a few minutes? Like the flying. Although maybe when he grows in skill he gets to keep the powers permanently.

Also, at the end when they showed Sylar's eye in a brief bit of lighting it reminded me of Peter's eye. Anyone want to check?

The promo I saw for next week's episode claimed we were going to learn how Sylar came to be as the previous 6 months are recapped. They showed a brief shot of him in bright daylight, looking quite innocent. Despite some similarities, it was definitely not Peter.

I do like your implication that he's being "persuaded" to kill the heroes. That's a neat twist.

I am still trying to find out how the guy who absorbs powers died by Sylar, he didn't seem to absorb his powers....whats the deal

One can't use what they don't understand :)

Peter wasn't able to control his flying ability when he was around his brother. It makes sense that he wouldn't even have an idea of how to control Sylar's telekinesis.

As for how he died, falling off a school tends to be quite fatal.

I'm not really betting that the theory I posted is correct, but I'm still looking forward to what will happen when/if Peter absorbs Nikki's powers... sounds like a potentially interesting storyline.

I'm looking forward to the bit where Peter is taken in and he's sat down cause they think he's sylar and he meets up with Matt.. Eventually Peter will start reading minds XD

Definetly waiting for this weeks episode :D I'm still trying to figure why Sylar is doing what he's doing. He's definetly got the list of them all. Maybe he wants to be the only one, the only special one? Perhaps you are right and he's being forced to do this.. I still think it might be more of a power thing. A person finds they've got this great power (which telekinesis is) they go nuts and go from there.

Ya but isn't the insanity part psychological and has nothing to do with her super strength? I don't think she's literally like the hulk, where she has to go insane to get her powers. In other words Peter would only absorb her strength, and not her insanity.

I'm really looking forward to when Peter and the mindreader meet too.

I'm thinking there is some powerful corporation or agency that has gotten ahold of the genetic finding work and is using Sylar to collect their brains so they can make their own super powered soldiers. I had thought it was Claire's Dad that was a part of of it, but it seems he really does care for her. though that doesn't entirely rule out the possibility.

I have this weird feeling that Matt's timeline actually takes place before everyone else's, and the little girl that he saves is Claire, dead parents and all (Sylar must've time travelled to kill her while she's still young, after coming in contact with Hiro at some point). It's also pretty weird how people just unwittingly know what a Haitian (or "Euro dude" as described by Nathan) man looks like...

On a general note, i think Sylar consumes the brains or something like that, it would be nice if the show established some rules to the people's abilities, like them originating in the brain.. it would explain why he's so powerful, can move stuff, cut sculls open, and apparently survive a few bullet hits.

Did he really get hit though? Or did he deflect them at the last second? I dont recall seeing any blood.

This is actually a cool concept which I like,,.. however it doesnt jive.. if syler was after claire as a young girl... why did he kill the wrong cheerleader? This also eliminates the idea that he has a "list" of all the superpowered. My belief is that he he just wanders around looking for signs of these superpowerd, and then targets them. In the diner he could very easily overhear the red head talk about her "power" of remember everything she reads, and then he targets her. Hiro actually "saves" himself by telling the red head his power is "teaching japenese".. brillent!.

I happened to read an article that interviewed the head writers of the show and they had said that the next half of the season will also focus more on Nathen's election... Now doesnt having your brother thrown in jail on murder charges tend to complicate a high profile election???? I can start to see these two drift to opposite sides of the coin.. but hey.. just a hunch right? Guess we'll just have to wait and see.

Claire would look pretty different at age, what 5, and age 16. He wouldn't necessarily recognize her.

I've assumed the Sylar has some sort of "special person radar", but his going after Little Miss "Ooh Ooh It Was Me Saving That Burning Dude" pretty much squashes that theory.

Well, probably . They were very close to each other. I'm sure he could get confused at that point. Same thing with Hiro and waitress. He may only have a general feeling for where they are.

Though I don't know why I'm defending this theory, I think he's working for or being controled by some conglomerate.

Really!? I've never considered that, I've always assumed he's working alone. What makes you think that?

More of an intuition than actual evidence. Mostly because of all the wierd tattoos and signs appearing everywhere.

Also was it ever proven who murdered the indian doctor? That leads me to believe he was killed for his work either to steal it, or because they had already figured it out and didnt want other people to know. Then theyve been using Sylar to take the brains for genetic research so they can reproduce the powers in anyone they'd like. This would also be a possible reason why Sylar may have more than one power, because they've suped him up so to speak.

It could also be aliens, never rule out aliens :hmm: :lol:

Old man Suresh, you mean? It was definitely Sylar--his watch puts him there in the last episode.

I think Sylar only has one power, telekinesis, but it might be advanced. Suresh found Sylar and helped him to use his powers, who knows what Suresh might have found out while helping Sylar develps his powers. Did it actually say that he was removing their brains?

As soon as they were investigating sylar and the blonde detective walked into the scene in the house and it had the lady pinned to the side of with stuff sticking out of her, which normally only a couple of people would be able to achieve I knew he would have been a telekinetic.

We'll just have to wait and see ;)

Might be aliens too, the two pin pricks on the back of Matts neck and Radioactive mans neck. The strange tatoo on Niki has on her shoulder coincides with what was on Sureshs' book, and it's what the haitian guy wears around his neck. So I think you could be right about the large company bit..

(Posted at the first commercial break)

Hiro teleported to my birthday!

I have the same birthday as cute memory girl!

Sweet!

I liked how they went back 6 months with all the characters before they learned their powers.

Sylar absorbs other peoples from people who have the genetic mutation in their brain, but how? How exactly does he fix the problem... He was a bit geeky before going on a killing spree.

The episode was ok. Hiro's storyline was the best... sweet and heartbreaking. And I like the fact that Hiro's powers are "bigger" than he is and that he "can't change the past." It's a good way to keep his powers in check.

But I also wanted them to be a bit more explicit about what it is that Sylar does to get his powers. There doesn't seem to be a reason to be so mysterous about it anymore. What does he do once he slices their heads open? Maybe he just rubs their brains all over his naked body, and that magically gives him the heroes' powers..... Ok, maybe not, but just tell us already!

And I'm still pretty ambivalent about the Nikki/Jessica storyline. I want it to tie in to the other storylines soon, because it just seems insignificant otherwise.

Ok, one last complaint (i love the show, really, i swear): Flying Nathan looked really, really hokey. You'd think they'd have the special effects budget to make that look a little better...

Hmmmm.... I think the key to Sylar lays in his ability to "fix things". As Churesh said, evolution is all in the brain, so that is where Sylar has to harvest powers. He seems to be mechanically inclined. Maybe that's his special power? I'm assuming he is able to extract the "DNA" or what-have you from the victim and add it to his own or something like that.

Jessica/Nikki appear to be involved with Linderman who is tied in with the Petrelli brothers. Also, DL and Micah have encountered Hiro & Ando already.

Cool episode, but still more questions than answers!

What is HRG's connection/function?

What was Chanti's ability/mutation?

What exactly does the Haitian mind eraser/sleeper do?

Man, we're starting to get real deep into the show.

Based on the promo for next week, it looks like there is going to be a showdown between Nikki and her Husband where the mind reading Cop intercedes. I wouldn't be surprised if some other heros get in the mix here as well.

Did the Haitian break Sylar's neck and kill him? It kind of looked that way but that would be an awfully quick death. Maybe he just knocked Sylar out and him to the ground to be interrogated later.

Seems like he can also suppress psy abilities. He kept Eden from Jedi-mind-tricking HRG. The first time we saw him was when Matt was in the bar, starting to get overwhelmed by the thoughts he could hear--and when he saw Hatian looking at him, it all went silent.

I'm still confused about Sylar, in that he didn't have telekinesis until after he killed that first guy, the "real" telekinetic. He's killed others since then, but hasn't displayed other abilities. He's not swapping abilities out. If he was adding to them, he'd be too powerful to keep from unbalancing the show (hello Highlander).

His original ability was fixing things (Is watch working a superhuman ability?!?). I would have said, "fixing *mechanical* things". How would that work in an organic, biological environment (human brains)? I just don't see that he's adding abilities as he kills folks. And adding/collecting super powers isn't "fixing" anything. He doesn't turn watches into speed boats. He just made them work again.

I wonder what happened to that little girl he was after, that the Cop saved?

No, Sylar is alive (it shows him in a cell in the preview). He was just knocking him out.

I agree Moskie with all the critiques.

Sylar's ability isn't fixing mechanical things, it's understanding how things work. In other words once he applied himself to the problem he became an expert in how genetics work (which when you get down to it we are just advanced organic machines). But as far as what he's doing with the brains and why he even needs to kill them . . . kinda lame so far. I can't think of a reason they could give that would make sense. I was thinking maybe he removed the part of their brain that gives them powers and added it to his own. But how the heck could he perform brain surgery on himself to insert it?

all I can say is I was rather disappointed with this epp. It was almostinteresting to see sylar's beginnings but then again....meh...
I was also hopeing for more of the Hiro story.
Yep, my opinion for the most part is this one was a waste of an epp.
Although.. it was nice to see that persuader girl with long hair. I thought she was pretty cute before but with long hair like that, WOW!

Well, to quote Gabriel Grey, aka Sylar, "Just a talent I have for the way things work. How the parts should go..." The moment that Siresh works in, Gabe noticed that his watch was broken. And when Sylar met Brian, he was "broken". Sylar can see the "part" in the brain that make up one's power. He appears to be able to extract that ability and take it into himself, and make it his own (the basterd). And yes, villians tend to over power the heros.

And regarding the little girl, I think she has a normal, less tasty brain.

Why do you think he came after her in the police station, then? Pretty risky move, if he's not going to get some sort of badassness out of it.

He can freeze people too. He did it in the future to Issac.

True! And to the little girl's father!

Perhaps she has the ultimative power. That would certainly be worth the risk..

Indeed I do:
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http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...ldt/heroes.jpg

I suspect that the deceased are all Sylar's victims.

Oh and two more whom Suresh has identified:
Spoiler:
"March 19
Location: Palu, Indonesia
Continent: Asia
S: Female
Age: 22
Race: Malaysian
Sample Type: Toenail Clipping
Acquisition of Sample: ( ) subject in the ( ) for a few weeks realising that she had her nails done every five days. So I went to the ( ) one day after seeing her ( ) and asked the manicurist for samples. Subject was unaware of any intentions to get data from her.
Potential Power: Transportation

February 12th
Location: Marabai, Brazil
Continent: South America
S: Female
Age: 13
Race: Columbian
Sample Type: Blood
Acquisition of Sample: I ( ) this who (was known) as being Brazil's greatest wrestler under the age of ( ) so I had to check her out. It became apparent at the match to me that she had some special power. It was as if she knew every move that her opp(onent) was going to make before they made it. She got distracted at one ..."

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http://img144.imageshack.us/img144/3669/febentryjv4.jpg

What do you make of the individual symbols beneath the dates? Perhaps they're Suresh's way of classifying their abilities or perhaps they're something else. Something very significant ...

Thanks Nancy!

Tonight's mid-season finale was great. Claire's friends being mindwiped, Persuado Girl getting wasted (sigh), Matt staking out the Haitian, Claire and Peter getting all googley, Hiro set to take on a T-Rex... I can't wait for the story to pick up again.


Here's a tidbit I found on a Doctor Who website http://www.gallifreyone.org:

Fun, no?

I liked the episode, too. I had my money on Isaac being the one to die, but I didn't really like Persuado Girl (her power was cool, but she's an awful actress), so I'm fine with what happened. And I like how the Haitian is actually a character now, and it's cool that he's helping Claire.

Peter and Matt experiencing feedback when they were in the room together was nice. And I guess Peter is starting to be able to access powers he's absorbed after the fact, right? I think that he was using either Isaac's powers of clairvoyance, or Hiro's power of time travel/teleportation when he passed out.

So with Sylar: he was just choosing not to use powers until the end? Why did HRG think he couldn't? And I guess we already knew he could his powers when he visited Peter (assuming he actually did visit Peter...)


something funny i noticed, and i hope this doesn't offend anyone: isn't it so transparent how the writers are referring to the Haitian as "the Haitian," when you KNOW they're just saying that because they can't say "Holy crap, the black dude!!".... or, dare I say, the n word?? ;)

I was wondering that the whole episode. He's got him in this big glass and plasic cage--like he's freaking Magneto or something--and he thinks that's going to keep him suppressed?

I'm not convinced that Hatian had anything to do with Sylar not just coming through the glass at HRG. I think Sylar was biding his time. I think from the moment he heard Persuado Girl put him down outside the high school, he had his eye on that ability, and he waited for his moment to get it.

Actually, I believe that Sylar's prison had a sort of power nullifier installed. Like what the Haitian does. Something that would keep special people from using their power(s). But when Eden (Persuado Girl) walked in with her plan to kill off Sylar, she would have to switch the device off in order to persuade him. Unfortunately, Sylar seems resistant to it, and shattered the glass (with poor Eden).

And here I thought that RadioactiveMan would be the one to blow up New York. Isn't he charged for terrorisim?

Radioactive Man may well still blow up New York, but it could just as easily be Peter if he absorbs that particular power. D'oh!

That's what I was thinking.

And why is Peter sick now? I was wondering if it was a small thing, being near Claire again would help him get over it (if she can heal injuries, shouldn't she be able to heal illness too?).

It's nice to see the cop being utilized more interacting with the others, he seemed unfairly isolated for a long time.

Oh, and do you suppose that Sylar can now pursuade people, now that Eden's brains were all over the glass? Or does he need a whole brain to figure out someone's power?

Did you notice that Eden (and Claire's father, apparantly) was under the impression that "The Haitan" couldn't talk? Obviously wrong.

Something I just wanted to bring up about a previous episode. But did anyone notice that when Hiro first meets Charlie, she mentions that she was given a japanese phrase book for her birthday? And then when Hiro goes back, what does he give her? A japanese phrase book. Does that mean that when he first met her, it was already a present that took into account that he would go back in time??

This could easily go around in circles, so i'll stop now.

I believe that the reason Peter is sick was because of all the internal injuries that he sustained when he fell from the back of the stadium. He was in a hurry to protect Claire, so he had her run away, but he only had use of her powers for a short time, so he was unable to fully heal before she was out of range. I think that the explosion MAY be Peter, after he absorbs some of the NuclearGuy's powers, but is unable to control it, since it is new to him, so he overloads, but of course you KNOW they aren't gonna allow that to happen. NO WAY the network would actually allow a nuclear explosion in New York. So we KNOW that something is going to stop it.

I picked up on Peter's sickness as well. The best theory I can come up with, is that his body can't handle the multiple powers he's absorbing. I'm thinking back to an old X-files episode where the villian was a kid who could run like The Flash. The kicker was that the power was slowly killing him because his mere mortal body just wasn't designed for the strain.

I think this question qualifies you for the Geek Merit badge. :D I have no idea.

I was also thinking about that, but if Hirio did travel to the past to give Charlie the Japanese phrase book then when they meet again in the present she should have recognized him and said "Hey Hirio, how are you!? Thanks for the phrase book. But, instead she seemed to be meeting him again for the first time.

I also noticed Peter looking quite ill, but that might be due to the loss of blood from falling off the building and breaking numerous bones, but I like your idea that absorbing people's powers is slowly killing him.

I don't think anyone's brought this up yet, but how could Sylar resist the persuasion voice she uses?

Something odd is going on with power usuage, let's hope it's something that makes sense and not bad writing...

And do we know all of Sylar's powers yet? We know he has more than one at least, right?

Space time continuum logic is tricky in TV & film. It's best not to try and figure it out (or yes, you will indeed go in circles). There are many problems associated with it - parallel time lines, dimensions, the grandfather paradox etc.

I think that's why Hiro's story/timeline is difficult enough for the writers to sketch out.

I think we are to presume that Eden's power is rendered useless for Sylar to "absorb" as she essentially committed suicide by blowing her brains out.

Sylar's talent is seeing how things work and "fixing" them. From there, he was able to obtain other powers beginning with telekinesis from Bryan Davis. Other powers MAY include: freezing, speed, strength.

I am also confused to how he was able to resist Eden the second time around (in the cell).

Peter's illness is intriguing. Many of the heroes display a similar tendency for illness that seems to be related to their powers. EX: Matt, Ted both had headaches, Claire's coughing as a little girl. There seems to be a connection.

Maybe the cumulative effect of all that power is overwhelming Peter. We do know that in future episodes, Peter gains a mentor (Invisible Man) who helps him control his power. From the previews, it looks like Peter is in the hospital, maybe in a coma.

Peter's dream is not necessarily literal; it is often metaphorical or allusory (Peter is often referred to as the Dreamer). We already know Peter does not blow up or if he does, he lives because Future Hiro already came back and established that Peter was present in the future after the explosion.

Needless to say, January 22 seems like an eternity. I am doing all I can to resist pulling a Cartman and having myself frozen til the "future"......

Well, Claire plus Radioactiveman makes Peter, "The Great Explodoman!" The ability to blow yourself up and reconstitute your body. And ready for another explosion :)

But seriously, it's "The Haitian" that everyone has to worry about. He can keep someone from using their power, and make them forget everything he wants you to forget. And now, it looks like he not mute at all, and has plans of his own. "Can you keep a secret?"

I think he's the connection/the one working for the previously mentioned conglomerate conspiracy thing.


I wonder if Sylar's downfall will be convincing him that he's broken and needs to be destroyed?

Okay, WHY would the Hatian EVER need to worry about Claire keeping a secret? He can just wipe HRG of anything Claire might say to spill the beans. Maybe that's why he feels confident going behind HRG's back with Claire.

Maybe his plans involve something greater than just HRG.

Remember... save the cheerleader, save the world. :suave:

Woo! So Ninja Hiro visited the Hatian too?

I hadn't actually considered that, but that would be damn cool.

I was just thinking that the Haitian is aware of something bigger, as in maybe he is getting his orders from someone higher up than HRG. Remember when HRG was on his cell phone for a second? It sounded as if he was talking to his boss.... and the boss didn't seem too happy. (I forget exactly what was said, but that's the impression I got.) And whoever the Haitian is working with is somehow aware of Claire's importance.

One thing I don't believe, is that the Haitian is working alone, or is seeking personal gain.

I think the key here is that Charlie did recognize him, but played innocent. It's kind of touching really: She got to meet him for the first time all over again.

I'm not sure the writers actually played it that way, but that's how I can reconcile it.

There's a thought. Perhaps when Hiro "retires" (or takes a break after they save the world) later in the show he goes way back in time to spend time with her (like years) and after getting to know her all over again and gaining her trust and convinces her of his ability he tells her to meet all his future selves as if for the first time. Maybe they even got married.

Yep, I'm in favor of another rescue attempt. The show could use a brianic redhead :love:, since it's currantly over run with blondes.

Ahh, you know, I actually enjoyed the Hiro-Charlie love story. I thought it was really sweet and very touching. Very surprising actually that those two would have a love interest. Same with Nikki and DL, Peter and Simone.

Kudos to Hollywood for "taking a chance".

Surprisingly, Hiro tops the fan polls. Somewhere in Hollywood, teams of execs and marketing people are scratching their heads.

I don't know. This whole show totally speaks to the power of the geek demographic. I don't think it's a surprise to them at all.

That's just it. The geek mystique is still unfathomable to many people. It's more than that. Since when is "Screech" or "Urkel" the hero, or the love interest? Is there anyone more nerdy than Peter Petrelli or Hiro? The show's success was definitely a surprise to the execs as they were picked up for more episodes.

It also breaks a lot of traditional Hollywood formulas. Having this many characters is risky. Also, this is one hell of a diverse cast and not just bit roles either. Having a few interracial couples is quite shocking in the entertainment world. Despite popular opinion, Hollywood is quite conservative which is why it's always funny when people refer to it as crazy liberal. Hollywood can be quite resistant to change and fears anything new.

Let's not forget Toby McGuire as Peter Parker.

It's definitely a good time to be a comic book geek. Thank the X-Men and Spider-Man movies for that. Hollywood needed to see that the kids that grew up during a time when comic books were very popular (10 - 15 years ago) are now old enough to spend their money.

And NBC seems to be the first network to take notice, and they're reaping the benefits.

I think the best thing about Heroes is that the show isn't afraid to have its characters use their powers. That was my biggest fear going into it, that the show would be focused on the mystique of people *sort-of* having powers, but your were never sure what was really going on. Sort of like Lost or the X-Files, in a sense. But they've instead embraced the idea that these people can do extraordinary things, and the show isn't aren't afraid to explicitly show that.




Wait a second.

Have we seen any powers used *on* HRG? Both Persuado Girl and the Haitian were around him all the time... but there was never any indication that they tried to use their powers on him. Maybe that's his ability? He's invulnerable to other heroes' abilities or something? That might explain why Sylar couldn't do anything to HRG... just throwing that out there.

Could be something to do with his glasses. There were a few instances where the show seemed to focus in on that (especially as an identifying feature). Think in the first couple of episodes, when Mohinder was in his father's apartment there was a close up of his glasses. Then there was the time when his glasses were cracked in the scuffle between him, the Haitian and Nathan. Then Nathan took off.

Eden did try to use her powers on him or at least it was implied. HRG said something to the effect of ,"your power won't work on me here" or something like that. However, maybe because it was because the Haitian was in the vicinity.

Sylar might not have been able to do anything to HRG due to the cell. Somehow it was "power proofed". Sylar was able to break through when Eden had to switch it off in order to use her power to try and persuade Sylar to kill himself.

Something I just realized by going through the older episodes that helps my little time theory.

In one of the episodes, charlie says "anata wa yasashi desu" (which actually means "you are kind" not "you are cute" don't know why they didn't put that in the subtitle). Yasashi is not in the book (or so says Hiro). But what word does she use in the flashback episode to hiro? Yasashi.

about the fact that Sylar couldn't use his powers in the cell when HRG was there but he could use them to kill that girl, I think it's far-fetched to think that they created a machine or the like that can turn off his powers. I am fairly sure it was just that the Haitian was around. The Haitian always seems to be with HRG. He wasn't around when the girl (I can't remember her name) got killed.

On a side note, I am having extreme withdrawls from the show! This is the coolest, most well-written show that I have seen in a long time.

Did you see it got nominated for a Golden Globe?

As it should. Also, Masi Oka (Hiro) is nominated for Best Performance for a Supporting Actor. That's really cool.

I'm pretty sure that the reason Sylar was able to break through the glass was because of the gun. Previously, he didn't have any object to telekenetically move. As for Eden, she pulled the trigger on herself just so that Sylar could not gain her ability.

Don't forget Heroes is back tonight! I for one have been eagerly awaiting this day. Man my DVR better not screw up in taping this and 24...

I can't wait, this is gonna be great!

Just finished watching it. Not exactly happy about how they jumped around all the characters. I would've preferred they stuck with only a few characters.

However, the invisible man should be interesting if he is peter's mentor.

I didnt mind so much the jumping around, only because I havnt seen the show in so long, i do hope in the future though they continue the 'only a couple of characters per episode' formula.

I did enjoy the episode though, the invisible man looks great, I can't wait for the next one!

Anybody else trading emails with Primatech Paper's HR department?

Was the e-mail address on the card that was given to suresh? I didn't notice.

There was a web address and a phone number. If you call the phone number, you get a code to enter on the "Jobs" part of the website, inside which you can subscribe to a mailing list for information on open positions at Primatech... after taking a brief psychological profile test. :thumbsup:

So who saw Heroes last night? Again, I absolutely love this episode, I knew Sylar was going to open his eyes but I jumped when he did it. I also completely marked out when I saw George Takei, I can't wait to see where this storyline goes.

I think the storyline thats boring me the most is the Nikki/Jessica storyline but only because it doesnt seem to connect to anything else yet - I wonder where they'll go with that.

I loved the invisible man, who is the actor who is playing that? Is he the same guy that was in Doctor Who? Or where do I know him from? He's awesome!

Yes, Invisible Man is the actor from Dr. Who. He is supposedly going to be recurring on the show as Peter's mentor.

Takei is pretty badass as Hiro's father, interesting development.

The story just keeps getting deeper and deeper, it's like the neverending saga/epic.

Sylar is crazy. I wonder if he "took" the cockroaches" attributes. Do you think HRG is killed?

Does Claire's mom have an ability? I mean both of them survived the fire.

We're not sure what Claire's mom's ability is - except for the fact that she lit her cigarette by producing a flame with her fingers. I'm sure we'll learn much more about her next week.

I, too, am very intrigued to see where they go with Takei as Hiro's father. And, even more, who is he? He's not Linderman, who I'm sure will be very interesting once he's cast, as it seems to me that he'll be the factor to tie other characters into Nikki/Jesse's storyline.

Great episode last night. :)

What did Hiros father have? All I caught was that he had real power, which I assumed was like, control over money and people.

Yep. She didn't die in the explosion: she was the explosion.

Right at the end of the episode, the Heroes web game sent me an SMS with a username and password on primatechpaper.com.

Yeah, I'm rather certain that if she can produce and hold flame in her bare hand, she's not likely to be hurt by fire at all.

She probably had some fire-power-related accident in her sleep or something, and all these years thought that she killed her baby....

I laughed when Hiro, all dejected about the sword being a reproduction says, "I'll take it back." :lol:

I'm sure the sword will be a mental focus for him, but I tend to think his lack of power is just in his head, I don't think he really *needs* it, except as a totem/confidence-booster since Memory Girl died and he failed to save her.

ooo! What does that take you to?

Next week's episode looks like it'll be really really good.

This weeks was good, but like daval, i'm getting bored of nikki and dl.

I'm quite curious about Hiro's dad. I wonder how he fits into all of this.

I wonder who Claire's father is... Could it be Nathan? Linderman?

You know, the character relationships are starting to sort themselves out a bit. There are various groups or cohorts we can group.

1. HRG and the Primatech organization
- the Haitian

2. The Heroes
a. Nikki/Jessica, DL, Micah
b. Hiro (and Ando) --- Mr. Nakumura

c. Peter Petrelli/Nathan Petrelli -- Claude Reigns ---mama, papa Petrelli
d. Matt Parkman, Audrey --- FBI ----wife Sandy, unborn child (ability?)

e. Issac --Simone

3. New alliance/faction
a. Ted Sprague
b. Hana Gilgeman

4. Linderman

5. Sylar

These five groups can be linked via many ways. Chasing Sylar, going after HRG, tracking down the rest of the "heroes".

I find the new "group" of Ted and Hana to be really interesting. I loved the scene with Ted playing with "fireballs" in his shack. Will Ted and Hana stage an assault on Primatech throwing fireballs and her with her military skills? I wonder if Hana will be able to counter the Haitian and/or HRG?

Plus Sylar seems like a great twist in this scenario. Will there be a coming showdown between Ted and Sylar with Ted chucking fireballs at him? and will Sylar "throw" them back or maybe he will be radiation resistant on account of absorbing the cockroaches ability (fake death, radiation resistant).

At some point I think, in the near future, all these guys will start converging more and more as their storylines interconnect.

I hope they'll have an episode the shows what powers Sylar has stolen.

The thing I don't get is, dig HRG's organization bring out Hana's (et al) abilities or did he just stimulate them or trigger them to "activate"? As in "activating evolution"?

But then again, it seems like Hana always had her ability, so it was more that HRG was harnessing it and "using" her.

Ted, Matt, and Hana surely have to converge at some point, most likely soon, especially since Matt has been suspended. This little trio is pretty potent.

great episode. The stories are all finally coming together and I love it!

Haven't seen tonight's episode yet, I'm on west coast time. I will check as soon as I have seen it though.

Where are all the Heroes' fans?

I saw the episode, was pretty darn cool. I was hoping to see a lot more of George Takei though, I didnt think his whole storyline would be wrapped up in one episode (unless it hasnt and he comes back). Did anyone notice the guy's deragatory comment to Hiro in the preview calling him Sulu?

I'm glad that HRG survived, I thought he was gonna die for sure. I also wasnt overly suprised by Nathan being Claire's father, but still a cool twist.

Man, I was DYING for them to finally bring out Linderman there. But tying Nathan into that story line is cool. Little did Peter know that "the cute kid in Odessa with the sad smile" is his niece!

Yeah, so much for a romance storyline. :lol:

Did anyone notice the license plate of the limo Takei's character got into? "NCC-1701" - the registration number of the starship USS Enterprise from the original Star Trek series.

I didnt notice last night but read that elsewhere, neat.

We're going to find out that Peter and Nathan aren't true blood brothers: Peter is adopted. Peter's actual fraternal brother is Sylar (they both absorb powers of others). Sylar is the Evil Twin and Peter is (trying to be) the Good Twin.

These are the days of our lives.

Is that speculation or spoiler? If spoiler please put that statement in spoiler tags to hide. If speculation, pretty interesting thoughts.

Pure speculation. Although, at times, I think I could be a writer for shows like Heroes and Lost when my speculations come true.

Nothing will happen between Peter and Claire. Mainly because she's a minor on the show! Unless Hiro does some sort of Time Warp. Hmmm... we may be on to something... ;)

Actually, I believe nothing would have happened as it's been reported that they loathe each other and can't even stand to be in the same room to do scenes together. Definitely not likely for them to ever "hook up". Although, now that's not a problem, since she's been written in as his niece.

Shoegirl, can you please provide a source for that? I'd love to read the article.

I would also like to see a source for that. Why would they have some much animosity towards each other?