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05-13-2004, 10:06 AM | #162 (permalink) | |
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Contrary to the belief held by conservatives, Bush is the one the terrorists want in office. |
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05-13-2004, 10:30 AM | #163 (permalink) | |
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The problem is, given the situation you listed, walking in on someone banging your significant other and not being able to think of the consequences of ones actions before blowing summons head off. I dont wish to veer any farther from the thread topic. If anyone wants to continue this lets start a new thread. |
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05-13-2004, 10:41 AM | #164 (permalink) | |
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Please explain your reasoning for that statement. I would think they would want anyone but Bush. Bush ordered the invasion of Iraq. Hes not afraid to piss in someone else's cheerios. I dont see how they would not view Bush as a bigger threat than Kerry. |
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05-13-2004, 11:01 AM | #165 (permalink) |
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To make it short I'll just give one main reason. The terrorists are willing to die for their cause. Their deaths inspire other fanatics to join the cause. Bush is aggressive and has huge oil ties, he helps to paint the pictures that America wants to take the oil from the Middle East and destroy the Muslims.
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05-13-2004, 02:02 PM | #166 (permalink) |
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"Just what makes yours arguements facts rather than opinions? Nothing that I see. Stop trashing everyone for having their own opinions."
my arguements are predicated on the pieces of middle eastern history i have laid out and the true roots of conflict in that portion of the world. for instance... fact 1: jews and arabs have been fighting over the land that is israel ever since the british allowed zionist settlement in the region following ww2. i stated that earlier. its a fact. fact 2: radical islamafascist doctrine calls for violent measures against all nations supporting or cohorting with the sons of zion. we treat jews in the US as equals and support thier causes both domestic and abroad (not necessarily as it exclusively pertains to israel), which makes us a target for islamic radicals, regardless of our foriegn policy. i stated that earlier, it is a fact. 3. i think i laid out some facts in my first two posts in this thread. i am not going to go and work up a bibliography page for you people....just do a google search for conflict in the middle east circa 70BC or circa 1947ish. these facts were laid out in response to the several posts here from people who seemed to be convinced that Bush's invasion of Iraq is the root cause of terrorism...or that terrorism would somehow go away if the US left the middle east alone...these assertions are incorrect and so i made some corrections. am i the only one here who thinks its important to form your opinions from factual actual relevant information? |
05-13-2004, 02:50 PM | #167 (permalink) |
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This issue will create negative emotions, simply because it exists.There is really no need to blast each other, and certainly no call to debase one another due to opinions expressed here. If someone feels strongly enough to use petty name calling as a way to express dissatisfaction, just stop posting for awhile.
Count to ten, or sit in a corner, but please don't resort to childish actions as this only makes you and your target more negative. It also makes the instigator look rather foolish to most of those lurking, or attempting to debate the issue with civility. In short, think before you type. Please.
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05-13-2004, 03:19 PM | #168 (permalink) | |
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He may not have been "ordered" over there, but he had BALLS and a HEART and wanted to help out and do his part as best as he knew how. He was doing what he felt he needed to do. Just because he went "trapesing off to a WAR ZONE" does not mean he deserved to die! Some people are willing to take a risk to help others. Would you have symathy for him if he were killed the same way here in the states? What difference does it make WHERE it happened. The fact is that it is a tragedy. My son is in Afghanistan right now and I fear for his life every waking moment. But I am proud of him for his guts and his willingness to risk it all for others. He has more bravery and guts in his pinky finger than SOME people have in their entire being. I despise your lack of sympathy and respect.
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05-13-2004, 03:52 PM | #169 (permalink) | |
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<a href=http://us.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/meast/05/11/berg.family.ap/ target=new>http://us.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/meast/0...erg.family.ap/</a> There's a couple links. This whole side of the story seems to be pretty hush-hush.
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05-13-2004, 05:49 PM | #170 (permalink) |
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There is one bleek future ahead of us, and that is a fact. Is this going to be over, even if we do erradicate every Iraqi alive? Of course not. Holy Jihad has been declared, and I don't think most people truly grasp it's meaning. All of these "acts of terrorism" and violence aren't going to stop until they have destroyed all of the non believers. This is all these people know, and they are everywhere, not just Iraq.
That's the way I see it. If you don't like Bush and gang, thats fine. Come November be sure to make your voice heard. The problem is still going to be there regardless of who is in office. We're in it now, so it's just a matter of trying different methods to stop it. In the meantime though try to live your lives the best way you know how.
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05-13-2004, 07:25 PM | #172 (permalink) | |
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05-13-2004, 08:47 PM | #174 (permalink) | |
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05-13-2004, 09:57 PM | #175 (permalink) | |
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I don't know how I feel about that. It doesn't feel right.
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05-14-2004, 09:26 AM | #176 (permalink) | |
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05-14-2004, 09:44 AM | #177 (permalink) | |
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05-14-2004, 10:23 AM | #178 (permalink) |
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I just heard on the radio the state depart employee that reported Nick Berg was detained by US officials has retracted his statement stating is was based on erroneous information.
I did some searching on the net for more information without finding anything. Anyone else heard this? It does make me wonder if this is truth or damage control. |
05-15-2004, 12:39 AM | #180 (permalink) |
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If the administration weren't so controlled by the oil companies themselves, we'd already have a energized - earth-friendly electric car with no pollution and worked like a champ for years on end.
Corporations want a continuous stream of income. Read: Gas powered machines. We could choose to be well past that point at this stage, however the profits are too great to risk losing them all. A sad end to a life that shouldn't have been lost through this war though. I say put an end to it - already too much blood has been shed.
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