dlish

what does everyone think about this?

i definately thik it would swing the pendulum back in Tigers' favour. As a male, i know that i'd support Tiger in this case. Not that i support Tiger in what he did, i just dont think his wife would be entitled to 300M of his cash. what has she done to deserve it? what would she have made without him as a second rate model?

Sure, i can see the arguments already - she's due alimony payments, but its nowhere in the vicinity of 300Mil.

Will you back Tiger if his wife gets greedy?

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Plan9

Lame Intarweb Rule for Nazi Comparison - GO: That's like backing Hitler because Goebbels was an asshole.

I'm still going to use a Mach 3 razor and drink Gatorade (although I prefer Powerade)... Buicks are for grandparents.

His infidelity has little to do with his ability to launch a golf ball with insane accuracy or sell a product based on that skill.

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Oh, the difficult lives of the multimillionaire celebrity. They're under a lot of pressure.

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Now is a great time to be a comedian, though.

"Tiger played 18 holes today... 9 of them golf."

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highthief

I have no sympathy for Tiger. I hope Elin takes him for a big bag of cash and gets the kids - he is obviously an unfit father.

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little_tippler

Well I don't know. I don't think I could sympathize with the guy at all. It's not like he didn't have it all. He just wanted to have his cake, and eat it too. He got caught.

Not to say that I sympathize with her necessarily, though I am more inclined to side with someone who is honest that with someone who was deceitful like her husband. To judge whether she should get half of his assets, I'd have to know more. How long were they together? How important has she been to his success? Things like that. That is what a judge will be looking at.

I don't care if half is a gazillion dollars. If she was instrumental enough, she should get it. Why should he get away scot free and leave her hanging with kids to raise? Would you care what the public thought, or would you get angry? I think in this situation, with all the context...I'd get angry.

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filtherton

I don't support either of them, because I actually don't know either of them, and am in no position to provide any sort of tangible support and so saying I support one or the other is completely meaningless.

Given that Woods earned the bulk of his money doing something generally completely worthless to anyone outside the sports/sports media industry, I couldn't care less what happens to him. He's overpayed anyway.

fresnelly

It doesn't really matter what she asks for but how it's reported.

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james t kirk

Why would he be an unfit father?

Because he fucks other women than his wife? Newflash - Statistics claim that anywhere from 50 to 75 percent of married people (men and women) have sex with partners outside their marriages.

Newsflash - 10% of people in North America if they did a DNA test would find out that their father isn't their biological father.

Newsflash - 50% of all marriages end in divorce.

Newsflash - of the 50% of the marriages that don't end up in divorce court another 50% of those so called marriages are unhappy.


If Tiger was not looking after his children, or beating them, or neglecting them, I would agree, however, to the best of my knowledge he is not.

I'm feeling very sorry for the Tiger man. He's become the latest whipping boy for the media. It's like society is blaming HIM for being THE REASON people cheat. (Maybe it's a race thing. He's black, rich, and fucks only white women. Whites and Blacks are happy to see him hauled down a few pegs.)

What about this wonderful Elin taking a golf club to his head? What if the roles were reversed and she was fucking around (she probably is) and HE took a golf club to her head. Would we be so forgiving?

Glory's Sun

She shouldn't get half of his money because he was someone well before he met her.

I don't think it matters what she gets, if he can get his head right and win tournaments and majors again, he'll win back the fans and the golf community at least. I'm not fond of how he treated his wife, but I'm still a fan of him on the golf course.

ratbastid

Don't they have a prenup? How can she "demand" anything?

The_Jazz

There was a prenup. That's been confirmed. However, he may have breached the terms with his infidelity. That will have been spelled out specifically in the contract (which is what a prenup is), and the divorce court will look at that very seriously. Her attorney may be able to successfully argue for breach of contract based on the publicity and sheer number of women that he's cheated with, which will put her on a much more equitable footing come settlement time. If the court throws out the prenup based on Tiger's behavior, she'll get something close to half. As it stands, the number I've heard is $70M, which is substantial, but a drop in the bucket in comparison to his overall net worth.

As for this making him a bad father - bullshit. It does nothing of the sort. It makes him a poor role model for fidelity, but it does his kids no actual harm nor does it mean that he loves them any less or more likely to hurt them. JTK did a pretty good job with his response, and I'll just add a "yeah!" to that.

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Glory's Sun

well, some prenups are nullified by infidelity. Just depends on how Tigers was worded and the laws of the State

BadNick

The settlement will all just depend on what lawyers can haggle out, and it will have zero effect on my opinion about any of this. In my opinion she deserves whatever the settlement comes up with. Half is a good starting point for negotiations, but probably more than she'll get.

He's a liar and habitually cheated on his wife, and for me to respect him again as a person he'll have to convince me that he's sorry and changed his ways. As a golfer I can admire his great talent.

What he did was a very bad example for his children so that's bad fatherhood. Is it possible to be a serious drug dealer or gangster and still be a good father?...not by my definitions. Setting an example in the realm of law and morals is an important part of parenting.

highthief

You got it.

He's fucked up his family - entirely of his own volition.

That standard, BTW, applies to anyone who deliberately throws away a good thing for a series of clamydia infected one night stands (for which he did not wear protection, apparently). He could have even infected his kids with AIDS or other illness as he's been fooling around for longer than the youngest one has been alive.

He may be a great golfer, but he's a poor excuse for a father and husband and man.

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james t kirk

By your own logic, 50 to 75% of the men out there are unfit fathers then and the same number of women are unfit mothers.

I guess we will just have to disagree because I don't see the co-relation between fucking around on your spouse and being a bad parent.

I think you're really stretching it with the STD thing by the way.

bagatelle

It does affect the mother of children. It will affect the kids. It breaks up the family. Although this happens to a lot of families, in his case there's also the publicity, that may still later affect the kids.

I don't follow golf a lot, but I do remember how the commentators wanted the viewers to pay attention to Tiger Woods' very fast pelvis movement, when he strikes.

Oh, on topic about the money, she should get as much as they've agreed on earlier.

Kaliena

IMO, I think because he had such a large number of mistresses, the female population will stick with the "hang em high" verdict.

Personally, I think he and his wife clearly had communication problems and it probably led to infidelity. Do I care how many ladies he boned and what his wife gets from this? No, not in the least. It's between them and any legally binding agreements.

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Martian

Tiger who?

It's none of my damn business.

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percy

Tiger will take time off. He will come back a new man,..a man for the ages. Polite, remorseful, self effacing, more than willing to admit to his mistakes and how others can learn from him.

His rebirth will be celebrated by Larry King and Oprah. His sponsors will shower him with everything available,...since he will have transformed into every man's man.

He will play golf again. He will win again. He will smile alot and not take the whole damned thing so seriously. He will become the black Phil Mickelson. Lauded and admired. All will be forgotten,..those tawdry escapades fading into the past.

And his wife. No one will give a rat's ass. Ironically, for being the person most affected by this entire event, she already is an after thought,...because it is all about Tiger.

Whether she stays or goes,...again, it isn't about her.

It never was. It never will be.

highthief

I think you're really stretching the 75% thing, too. Why exagerrate the stat which is usually cited between 40-60% at most?

What can I say - I'm a father of two, I've been married twice. I live my life in a certain way - even when there might be more fun options out there - and I think little of men who jeopardize their families for a quick shag. Our actions have effects on those closest to us.

No sympathy for Tiger, here.

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