pixelbend

ok, go to newegg.com. Free shipping

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mikec

willravel, that is not building, that is upgrading parts. I can upgrade the memory and HD in my laptop, would I dare to say that I built it? No. I could instruct my brother, who is computer illiterate, on how to upgrade memory over the phone. You know what I'm saying..

Do you mean to say that I can purchase, separately, the newest, latest mac motherboard, mac processor, etc, or used parts? If so, what store offers these parts separately? apple.com?

And PLEASE direct me to where I can purchase a tower with 2 motherboards installed...

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TheBrit

They don't do it so much now, because of the price, but they used to sell PCI x86 based motherboards for macs, so you could run native x86 code on it when you needed to.
You can buy the latest motherboards, but not over the counter, you have to know someone unfortunately.

Nhanced1

I agree with this, but I do believe that your simile leaves something to be desired. I see the mac more as being the Compact sedan or Minivan of the car industry, because Macs come premade with bells and whistles and most people don't end up modding them too heavily. Then I see a homebuilt custom x86 system and I consider that to be the same as a hotrod or a modified sports car simply due to the ability of control.

I ASK YOU ALL, WHERE ARE BIOS CONTROLS ON A MAC?

Can you even control clock speeds, voltages, and multipliers with the motorola chips that Macs use? Is it possible? (no really, I don't know, please answer this one.)

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catback

Mac are great for 3 things: education, audio editing, and video editing. Everything else you might as well have a PC. Macs lack software and user support base. Where does a mac user turn to for help when everyone and their cousin uses windows on their PC. Hear about rad new program that gots you interested, shame no mac version. Fighting off the microsoft monopoly, your just joining the apple monopoly instead-they not only made the OS but the computer and many of the programs you use. All this combined with premium prices are why macs are hated and in the minority. If apple could get more software support they'd do alot better.

Speed_Gibson

There is no reason I 'hate Macintosh computers' - I would buy some in a heartbeat if money were not an issue, but the only possible problem I might have is support for multiple audio codecs that have full windows support. Wish I had at least a powerbook to try though.
Openoffice and the GIMP are both available for that platform and they would be enough anything I would use such a machine for aside from the audio work.

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woodhead

The only thing wrong with Mac is that not enough people use them and they are not yet localised to Russian. It is a complete mystery to me why anyone would use a PC unless they were very poor or uninformed or had extreme niche software requirements.

Redjake

The core reason of why I hate Macintosh (or rather dislike Macintosh) is a rather interesting reason. And if this comment turns this flame-war into a a holocaust, I'll eject and be done with it!

I dislike Macintosh because 90% of every Mac-user I've ever met in my entire life act like Macintosh computers are the GODSEND to the computing world. They bash PCs to the point of absurdity and act like their Mac was forged by the Hand of God. It happens all the time. I realize that a lot of PC users are like that too, but I generally keep an optimistic perspective on Macs. I don't bash Macs unless the evangelists start, well, evangelizing about how good their Mac is and how bad my PC is. I mean, if you like Macs, and you need what a Mac offers, good. If you like PCs, and you need what a PC offers, good! But please, for the love of God, stop being so defensive.

This goes for you PC users too who constantly bash Macintosh

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tinfoil

I was a mac basher for the longest time, until I grudgingly bought my wife a Powerbook (she's a Mac lover) with OSX. After she let me use it for a night she told me to keep my hands off of it. Needless to say I bought myself a TiBook shortly afterwards.

Mac, PC, they're both tools. Use what you feel most comfortable with.

I don't like that I can't play as many games on my mac and I hate the price premium.

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pixelbend

All of you need to read the Cryptonomicon by Neal Stephenson. It handles this argument very well.

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Embic

I am a gamer

I am a hardware enthusiest

All the mac owners that i know personally believe macs are the greatest thing since sliced bread and bash the hell out of pc's

The stupid Switch adds.....the people in thoes adds are complete morons

shadowalker

frist Real computer i ever used was a mac, and i currently own both mac's and pc's, I love my G5, and my pc. Mac's i use for my editing, general web browsing, etc. Pc for publishing web sites, gameing, and general web browsing also. Somethings i love my mac for and somethings i love my pc for. I like being able to Build my own systems off the store shelfs, Which i cannot do for a mac. thats the only problem i have and its not even major.

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SpiffCheese

I don't hate mac computers, I hate people who won't leave me alone about the Mac thing. They seem to live in some kind of dream world where everyone has a Mac and everything works together seamlessly. Why is it not ok for me to have a PC? It's as if Mac users are really concerned that my platform is not all it could be. If you're that concerned, but me one. Other than that, stop acting like 2-year olds and telling me at every junction of life how a Mac would keep food colder than my fridge, get me to work more economically than my car, make my lunch faster, do my taxes all by itself, and even raise my kids better.

It's not the mac, it's the guy who won't leave me alone about the mac.

ps. I'm bitter, yeah. sorry about that.

SpiffCheese

also, I can't spell

SpiffCheese

if I had a mac, I could spell better

brandon11983

You make some really insightful and eye opening points here. I thought the Switch ads were stupid too, until I switched and realized it was all true. Everything I had bashed them about was in error. There are few, if any, software issues, and there is an abundance of hardware available. I am not a gamer, and I have yet to run into any software that is available on PC that is not on Mac. Someone mentioned that the Mac and PC thing is like the beautiful luxury car (think E55 AMG) off the showroom floor, or the ricer that the kid put together from other parts. Sure the ricer may be faster, but an E55 AMG is an E55 AMG.

I should let you all know that I did not intend for this to become a flame war/pissing contest. I just wanted honest opinions on why others do not like the Macintosh platform. I have never found myself to be more passionate for something like I now am for Mac's. I am currently writing a ten page paper for class on them and their history. I also do not appreciate others calling my thread useless, as I did not come into their "mega videocard buying guide" thread and do so.

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mkultra

Macs are better for video editting (less stutter) and that's about it. As a big computer gamer I also shun Macs since so few games get ported over. The upgrade issue is also a big issue for me, I don't like the idea of not being able to upgrade things myself as I go along. And this may just be my geekiness talking, but I like to have a computer I can get elbows deep in tweaking things

Ustwo

WAY back when I had an Amiga when Mac's came out.

There was a bit of a 'geek war' between the Amiga and the Mac.

Being an Amiga user I had to hate Macs. Sure its 20 years later now, but damn it, those Mac people suck!

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CHollman82

1. Limited software (read: game) support
2. Limited hardware support
3. Can't tweak the OS like you can in windows

My post was edited by Cynthetiq because I made an offensive comment and earned an Official Warning.

Embic

im not to sure about this car analogy....sure an E55 AMG is a nice car.....but i would take a ferarri over a mercedes any day

http://www.voodoopc.com/systems/tower.aspx

and personally i find these more esthetically apealing then any mac

mjw

many people have said the software (games) that's a big issue (go M$ for buying Bungie)

The tweaking of the system is a definate bonus, and once you turn off the "gay" as i call it of winXP it's not too bad, granted you gotta go in there and turn off all the services that they decided you needed running to help you with every damn thing you tried to do.

I feel somewhat less masculine trying to decide between a mango or fucia (or however you decide to spell that damn color) computer.

The big kicker for me, is development. You just don't see ANY software dev companies for Macs.....granted this is big because i'm a programmer and all, but one thing M$ did right was release tools to let you develop for the platform.

Oh yeah, and the "My name is XXXXXXXXXXX and I switched to Apple because I'm a pretentious a$$hole" commercials are.......uuurrrgghhh!!!! the english language doesn't have words angry or powerful enough for me to fully convey my feelings on those.

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pixelbend

Every copy of OS X comes with a Developer Tools CD. You get a plethora of cool stuff from GCC to Apple's own Project Builder, all completely free.

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Redlemon

Dude, it's been over 2 years since Apple sold a frut-flavored Mac. They are now either pure white or metal. Manly enough for you, or are you lovin' the beige?

Herk

I think a lot of people, or myself perhaps, are missing some key points. Some people are complaining that Macs aren't heavily controlled by software, like clock and multiplier controls. Macs are built hardware first, then software within those specifications, pc's are dynamic in both ways, software pushes the specifications on the hardware. I think this might be what causes a lot of the problems in pc's as it is. And doesn't it say something that the company is, at least, telling the end users that the chips come set to perform as well as they can. lol. Instead of, yeah here is your chip, and if you are a geek you can get it to work up to design specifications. *snicker snicker*

Mac's don't have as much support - Of course not, they are extremely stable.

Not enough programs - Thats what happens when you have less then double digits in marketshare. Only we can change this.

That being said, I use a pc, for now. I have to stick with the mainstream temporarily, but Steve Jobs is still my hero, and one day I will have a mac.

Sidenote - Somebody said that IE's updating showed they care about their customers. pfft. In a press release a few weeks ago, they said something to the effect of, they were doing no more updates for that version. In order to get the more secured version you'd have to purchase the highest version of windows or some bullshit like that. I saw it on Bullseye. Anyway, it ended up sounding like, "Well, despite the fact that we delivered shit, keep paying and we promise we'll get it right next time. For now, stick with our shit product."

Anyway, I don't hate MS, in fact I love it. But they difinitely help push people away with their antics.

Long live open source browsers.

Herk

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