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Old 09-06-2005, 01:09 AM   #1 (permalink)
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MLB playoff's and perdictions...

heres your chance to post what you think is gonna happen in the MLB playoffs...whos gonna win it all whos gonna suprise everyboy, how much time will ESPN waste talking to george stienbriner(sp?)


Ok being a red sox fan i really cant go against them...there only question on there team is the bullpen and can they stay healthy.....with schilling struggling lately(i personally think he should have stayed the closer)
and with almost no other bullpen at all there going to need some good starting pitching from wakefield, clement, arroyo and probably most importantly schilling...

Final thoughts: i see them hanging on to the AL east and winning easy first round of the playoffs and making to the world series

The damn yankees- i hate to say it but even with all that overpaid underpreforming talent they have i think they might pull out the wild card, but with many questions on the team i.e matt lawton and the entire outfield, and with only johnson and rivera there only 2 pitchers there gonna need alot of help to win a series

Final thoughts: wild card winner, Lose to Chicago in ALDS....they just have to many questions


Chicago White Sox - there the quiet guys that come out of nowwhere to suprise everyone in a division that has been the twins for the last 3 years...granted the division has a history of being horrible... anyway, they have the making of a great TEAM, garland and Buehrle are amazing, posednick cannot be caught stealing and hermanson the closer has been solid

final thought: cruise to the division title struggle a little with the yanks then lose in 7 to the sox off an error


Oakland- Zito, harden are on fire but with the injury to crosby i dont know if they have enough to make a playoff run, plus its tough to win with a 21 year old closer

final thought: lose the divison to LAA but it will be 1 game or less

LAA- anyone remember the rally monkey, i sure do because i hated it, but it will be back is my guess and they will be the quiet contender, colon is unhittiable when hes on and minus a few bad outings vs the twins frankie rod is probably one of the best closers in the game

final thought: Win the west then lose to the red sox in a decent series filled with many annoying rally monkeys


AL
EAST: BOSTON
CENTRAL: WHITE SOX
WEST: LAA
WILD CARD: YANKEES

ALCS
RED SOX vs. WHITE SOX

WORLD SERIES
RED SOX

ok thats it for now i'll do the NL when i get home from work....if im not to tired

What do you think is gonna happen?
Borla i know you'll pick the White sox(i almost hate them as much as i hate the yankees)
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Old 09-06-2005, 04:03 PM   #2 (permalink)
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In the AL i like the angels and the NL the cardinals, and the angels winning the series based on better bullpen and starting pitching depth
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Old 09-06-2005, 06:10 PM   #3 (permalink)
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In the AL i like the angels and the NL the cardinals, and the angels winning the series based on better bullpen and starting pitching depth
If the Angels continue to forget how to hit, I have my doubts. Yes, the Angels have a great bullpen but they have been awful the last month, just ask Big Papi tonight.

That being said they still have a chance to go deep into the playoffs thanks to unbelieveable starting pitching, but things have to change with the bats and with the bullpen, and soon.

I think it will be a World Series rematch this year with the Red Sox and Cards.
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Old 09-06-2005, 07:19 PM   #4 (permalink)
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What do you think is gonna happen?
Borla i know you'll pick the White sox(i almost hate them as much as i hate the yankees)
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I'm thinking:

AL East = Red Sox
AL Central = White Sox
AL West = Angels
AL Wildcard = Indians

Yup.......I'm saying the Yankees will be shut out of the postseason.

Since the Indians are in the Central, that means Red Sox v. Indians and ChiSox v. Angels.

Red Sox and ChiSox, and I'm pickin the clean socks.


In the NL:
NL East = Braves
NL Central = Cards
NL West = Padres
NL Wildcard = Astros

Braves v. Astros, the Astros bats eek out just enough offense to win. Cards slaughter the Padres, then the Astros.

Cards v. ChiSox, with the palehose bringing the first WS title to Chicago in almost 90 years.
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Old 09-07-2005, 07:29 AM   #5 (permalink)
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AL East = Red Sox
AL Central = White Sox
AL West = Angels
AL Wildcard = Indians

In the NL:
NL East = Braves
NL Central = Cards
NL West = Padres
NL Wildcard = Astros
You pretty much nailed my picks, too, except I'm going to have to look at the AL Wildcard a bit closer before committing to the Indians. I too have doubt that the Yankees will make it.

My predictions for the World Series (I'm not even going to try to figure out who would be playing in the playoffs) is White Sox v. Braves, with the Braves taking the title.
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Old 09-07-2005, 07:32 AM   #6 (permalink)
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Cards vs. Red Sox rematch with the good guys winning this year.

Go Cards!
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Old 09-07-2005, 08:55 AM   #7 (permalink)
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AL EAST: God's Team
AL CENT: Who cares.
AL WEST: Who cares.

AL WC: Who cares.

NL EAST: Braves
NL CENT: Cards
NL WEST: Giants (but only if Bonds returns)

NL WC: Astros


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Divisional:
God's Team over Who cares (AL West) 3-1
Who cares (AL WC) over Who cares (AL Cent) 3-2

Cards over Giants 3-0
Astros over Braves 3-0

ALCS:
God's Team over Who care (AL WC) 4-2

NLCS:
Astros over Cards 4-3

World Series:
God's Team over Astros in one of the best Series since the early 90s. 4-3
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Old 09-07-2005, 06:58 PM   #8 (permalink)
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I don't know about predictions, but if God is listening PLEASE let it be anyone BUT the Red Sox or Yankees. These northeastern sports teams are insufferable.
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Old 09-07-2005, 07:43 PM   #9 (permalink)
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World Series:
God's Team over Astros in one of the best Series since the early 90s. 4-3

You are picking the Yankees to win it all?

This question comes from one who is fairly sure that Damon, Schilling and a few others just might have sold their souls to the devil to win last year.

Also, could you imagine if the Cards lost the series to another team that hadn't won for like 80 years?

My pick would probably be cards vs yanks or angels.
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Old 09-17-2005, 05:53 PM   #10 (permalink)
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A.L. East = N.Y. Yankees = I see Boston choking in the last 2 weeks, NY coming strong and as much as i hate the Yankees I hate the arrogance and ignorance of Bosux fans more. (The team is cool, some HOF players.) (I truly see Bosux winning it just hate admitting it)

NY has the tougher schedule.

A.L. Central = CLEVELAND = the Tribe is hotter than Hell having the best record since the all-star break and are peaking. The team is young hungry and strong with tremendous unsurpassed pitching down the stretch. ChiSux are faltering, got off to a great start but appear to be tired, imploding and not very hungry.

CLEVELAND's schedule is by far the most favorable of the 2, in fact their schedule is by far the least threatening of any W/C team. Cleveland faces the Royals and D'Rays 9 more times and hold their destiny against as they play Chisux 6 times.

Meanwhile, Chitown faces Det. and Min 9 more times and those 2 teams are by no means easily beaten.

A.L. West = the A's = their pitching and guts are going to carry them through.


AL Wildcard = I am almost tempted to say Chitown and would be very happy to do so, but it depends on how bad they play. I think they have conceded the Central title but will they hold on for the W/C they have the hardest schedule of any team in the running so even if they do get the W/C they'll be out in 3.

IF Chicago does falter I see the Bosux/Yanks loser being the WC.

My A.L. Champ pick is may appear biased but I am going with the TRIBE. The pitching and hitting have been unstoppable and for what ever reason this appears to be their destiny this year.

I just don't think any other team comes near them in momentum and wanting it.

NL East = ATL
NL Central = STL
NL West = San Diego
NL W/C = Houston = UNLESS FLA. pitching gets through their funk and battles back and dominates like we all know they can.

NL Champ = going on a gut instinct here and saying Houston IF they make it if not STL.

The W.S. Champ = 7 games very close series all the way around ...... CLE takes whichever HOU or STL.

Even IF the Tribe gets shut out of the WC look for the Jake, the Tribe and CLE. to be rockin' like it's 95 next season.

Cleveland Indians are on the way up and ain't nothing gonna stop them except a cheap ass owner.... who promises to put the money in next year to take the team all the way. (Maybe resign Millwood and Elarton and find the BIG bat we need)
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Old 09-18-2005, 01:19 AM   #11 (permalink)
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Just curious, but what do you see as the difference for the Tribe this year compared to other teams who have had very hot second halves the last few years, like the A's? What is the difference that you see for them getting into the World Series (and winning?). I'm just wondering, because trust me I don't see my Angels getting there at this point...too much inconsistent hitting and bullpen.
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Old 09-18-2005, 05:15 AM   #12 (permalink)
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Just curious, but what do you see as the difference for the Tribe this year compared to other teams who have had very hot second halves the last few years, like the A's? What is the difference that you see for them getting into the World Series (and winning?). I'm just wondering, because trust me I don't see my Angels getting there at this point...too much inconsistent hitting and bullpen.
Good question.

It's that everyone is in sync. It's like '95 only with pitching and no superstar attitudes (i.e. Albert Belle).

If Hafner is down, Sizemore is there or Blake or Boone or Belliard or Martinez.

The bullpen and starting ptching have been great this year, the funk earlier came because you had a yound team that wasn't hitting. Now the bats are alive, the pitching hasn't tired (which is usually the case when the hitting is as bad as Cleveland's was), if anything the pitching is getting stronger.

Another factor is they have been winning at home and the crowds are coming back. And whether people want to believe it or not there is a mystique at the Jake and when that place starts rocking it's like no other park in baseball (and I have been to quite a few and I'll take a rockin' Jake over any of the others) and the team is truly energized and is unstoppable.

The fact that these players will be around for a few more years is exciting especially when the likes of Martinez, Sizemore, CC and so on have signed multi-year contracts forgoing F/A and adding time here. That was unheard of with the 90's teams, the players signed long term to avoid arbitration (which was Hart's genius) but they all left (Thome, Manny, Belle) the second they had the chance (except Lofton, who came back after the trade to Atlanta debacle).

There's just something magical this year about the way they have comeback. Now will they be a force in future years? That truly depends on if the pitching is real or just a fluke. Is Millwood that good or just pitching for a long term high pay contract and once he gets it he's injured again? Another who knows question, but this year he has the magic.

The Tribe may lose and not even get a W/C but I wouldn't trade their second half excitement for anything, the magic of '05 and for some reason there's hope again in Cleveland to become a true powerhouse again.
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Old 09-18-2005, 06:20 AM   #13 (permalink)
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The reality of the situation is that it will most likely be the Braves vs the Yankees in the world series.

WHo wins is any ones guess.
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Old 09-19-2005, 11:50 PM   #14 (permalink)
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The reality of the situation is that it will most likely be the Braves vs the Yankees in the world series.

WHo wins is any ones guess.
I don't see it happening.... you may wish all you want for it tho. But I don't see it happening.
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Old 09-20-2005, 06:43 PM   #15 (permalink)
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The Indians WILL win the series the Indians WILL win the series......

CHICAGO WHO???????????????????

Take that 15 1/2 game lead on August 1st and shove it the INDIANS WILL win the series.

They are unstoppable and moving up to the penthouse..... and the best fans in baseball (and 455 PROVES WE ARE THE BEST), the best stadium in baseball is awakening and beginning to rock.
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Old 09-22-2005, 02:43 AM   #16 (permalink)
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Whoomp there it is .......... Whoomp there it is............. Cleveland beats Chisux 2 outta 3........... with game 3 being an old fashioned ass stompin'... 8-0.

Ain't nothing or nobody stopping this team........

Cleveland is gonna rock this year....... King James and the Cavs bringing gold, the Tribe and fans rockin the Jake and the Browns better than anyone expected.

Yeah baby, it's Cleveland's time to rise from the ashes and take it's rightful spot as a major sports entity and a great city.
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Of course there's a reason why he is the Mets' former GM but:

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Sunday, September 18, 2005
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Obviously, the first task of the playoff-contending Indians is to make the AL postseason - but former New York Mets General Manager Steve Phillips says if they do, their odds of making the World Series are quite good.

"If they make the playoffs, they have a great chance at the World Series," says Phillips, now an ESPN baseball analyst, of the Indians. "I like Cleveland's pitching, from starters to closer, better than Boston, Anaheim or the [New York] Yankees, and Chicago just seems to have lost its stride.

"But there's definitely not going to be any AL playoff team that makes you say, 'Wow, they're the ones to fear.' And that's a great advantage for the Indians."
http://www.cleveland.com/sports/plai...590.xml&coll=2

Whoomp there it is........... destiny and fate are on the Indians side this year.
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Old 09-22-2005, 06:28 AM   #18 (permalink)
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Four consecutive posts with no reply from another TFPer? That's got to be some sort of record.


Oh wait. Nevermind. Nobody cares about Cleveland, not even Drew Carey.
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Old 09-22-2005, 07:31 AM   #19 (permalink)
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Oh wait. Nevermind. Nobody cares about Cleveland, not even Drew Carey.
Well no other TFP'er is as proud of their team as I am of mine..... and considering the other 29 MLB teams..... well there's not a lot to be proud of......

Hey now that's not true, Don King is promoting fights here, in fact one of the fights was just on Showtime.... Drew's series was very innovative and one of the most original shows ever.

All we need in Cleveland is a mayor that wants to develop the lakefront, a governor that isn't all f'ed up and getting caught in scandals 24/7 and whether I like it or not a casino or 2.
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Old 09-22-2005, 11:09 AM   #20 (permalink)
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AL will be Yanks, White Sox, Angels, and Indians. The way I think that would play out seeding is like so:

Yanks vs Indians

White Sox vs Angels

Yanks and Angels meet, with Yanks back in the series.

NL is the Cardinals all the way (the other teams don't even really matter). They have a true ace this year, so should be clear sailing. Who's gonna beat them, the Padres?

And in the series, Yanks over Cardinals in 5 and all is well in the baseball world.
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AL will be Yanks, White Sox, Angels, and Indians. The way I think that would play out seeding is like so:

Yanks vs Indians

White Sox vs Angels

Yanks and Angels meet, with Yanks back in the series.

NL is the Cardinals all the way (the other teams don't even really matter). They have a true ace this year, so should be clear sailing. Who's gonna beat them, the Padres?

And in the series, Yanks over Cardinals in 5 and all is well in the baseball world.

The seeding would look like that IF the White sox hold off the Tribe and well.........

8-0

2 out of 3

I seriously do not think the Yanks are going to be a factor, hell they may not even make the playoffs. When the Tribe overcomes the White Soc the Yankees hopes are beating Bosux for the Eastern title and I don't see them doing it.

I see seeding as:

Cleveland vs. Cali/Oak (this is just way too close to call)

Cleveland having the better win/loss so should have home field advantage (I think that's how it is determined for the division winners)

Boston vs. Chitown

Chitown takes on Boston because W/C cannot play same division in playoffs

Quite frankly, I am starting to think the White Sox with the W/C may get a fire the first series and kick ass....

so I'm amending my previous ALCS prediction to say:

Cleveland vs. Chitown...... Cleveland in 5


In the N.L. Houston's pitching is scary for a short series....... Clemens, Oswalt and Pettitte......

The only team that I think may stop Houston is the Braves. The Cards don't have the pitching and pitching wins series.

I just don't see the Cards nor the Yanks in the WS...... I think the way Cleveland has been going and the way the season has gone..... it is their destiny to win it all this year.
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Old 09-22-2005, 06:38 PM   #22 (permalink)
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I just think that Cleveland is this year's Oakland (catches fire, burns out in playoffs). Also, don't know if they have the experience (they might feel happy just getting there). As for the Yanks not being a factor, I still would take their lineup over any in the majors, depending on who is DH'ing and playing OF. I mean, Sheffield, A-Rod, Matsui, Giambi (who's been on a tear after the all-star game), Playoff Jeter (totally different than regular season Jeter). Remember, they were a couple of fluke hits away from the series last year. Plus, their defense seems to be stiffening, which makes their pitching better.

But as for the NL, there is something scarier than Houston's pitching, and that's Houston's hitting. Sure, Clemens might only give up 1 run, but chances are that 1 run will be more than Houston puts up. And I think they still have the rule where the wild card can't play someone in their division round 1, so St. Louis wouldn't have to face Houston in the short series. The Braves are always able to somehow get into the playoffs (I think Ted Turner made some sort of demonic pact) where they quickly choke/flame out/underachieve. And unless Bonds somehow wills the Giants out of the West, that division's representative is gonna get swept.
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Old 09-24-2005, 01:18 PM   #23 (permalink)
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yankees are coming on strong down the final stretch but i dont think they can get it done,
i still think boston is gonna win the east

but now who would have thought that willie mays hayes, roger dorn, pedro cerrano and Rick 'Wild Thing' Vaughn and the hapless indians would win like 19 of there last 20


indians might end up taking the central, a task that seemed improbable by both them and the twins like 3 months ago


this is gonna be a tight finish this year in almost every division, minus the NL Central for ovbious reasons and the NL West because no one cares or should care
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Old 09-27-2005, 09:10 PM   #24 (permalink)
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Wow, who would've thought the Angels would be the first to clinch a division title in the AL. A lot of things change in a month, from 2 games down on August 30th to 6 games up now. The team is on fire right now winning 10 of 11, and with the starting pitching so strong, I like our chances. Even the bullpen has came around the last couple weeks after an abysmal July and August. With any luck maybe they can gain home field for the Division Series.

As for who I would rather see the Angels play, I think it is obvious that it would be the White Sox. The Angels swept them in Chicago a couple weeks ago and played them pretty well all year, even when the White Sox were on fire. But who knows whats going to happen...Boston, NY, and Cleveland all have the same record right now and the matchups will likely change.
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Old 09-28-2005, 06:55 PM   #25 (permalink)
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congrats to the angels tonight

bronson arroyo and my red sox did not fare as well tonight.... hopefully they can pull it off at home in the final series
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Old 09-29-2005, 03:08 AM   #26 (permalink)
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Old 09-29-2005, 04:36 AM   #27 (permalink)
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Friggin Indians are choking too, and so am I...on my own rage here!
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Old 09-29-2005, 06:35 AM   #28 (permalink)
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They'll be ok. 4 games left 4 wins to go. They'll get Tampa tonight and crush the Sux.

Even if they don't make it..... I see the Indians only being better next year. And IF Dolan puts up some cash like he said he would ..... we'll get Millwood resigned or Burnett. and a hitter.

Elarton will be back and so will Hafner, CoCo, Boone, Victor, Jhonny, Belliard, CC, Westbrook, Lee and most of the RP and we have some great up and comers in the minors .....

I have no doubt the Jake will be rockin next year..... but we have this year also and once they get to the playoffs, with their pitching and hitting...... WE WILL OWN BASEBALL.
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Old 09-29-2005, 05:19 PM   #29 (permalink)
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Yeah, I guess. I just was so excited at the Indians finally being back and playing like a team again. I suppose it doesn't all happen in one year. However, I'm worried about attendance -- with the exception of this recent slide, the Indians were the best team in baseball for a while and still they couldn't get people in the door.
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Yeah, I guess. I just was so excited at the Indians finally being back and playing like a team again. I suppose it doesn't all happen in one year. However, I'm worried about attendance -- with the exception of this recent slide, the Indians were the best team in baseball for a while and still they couldn't get people in the door.
There's a lot to that though. Worst economy in the States is here in NE Ohio, Hoover closing, Timken leaving, the tire and car companies getting rid of workers, the mom and pops that were built up are hurting (although it is starting to strengthen). Yeah, cheap tickets maybe $10 or so, but then you figure parking, food (since you can't take anything but water in) and gas you're looking at $50 or so. May not sound like much but you can only do it a couple times a season and NE Ohio is losing population, so there's the big reason. Look at the theme parks, Cedar Point, Geauga Lake, King's Island they are struggling big time because population is leaving and the economy in the area sucks, but again it is getting better and next year hopefully we'll see some true growth in it.

More home games are televised, and the ratings have been going through the roof, which means the interest is definately there.This last home series has sold out, and I believe even though they aren't guaranteed to even be in it, playoff tickets went fast. So the fans are there and hyped up, just this was unexpected, no one planned for it and that shrinking disposable income had already been spent by the time the Tribe showed what they could do.

Then you have an owner that is blamed for tearing the team up (wasn't his fault, entirely) and yes, he has been very, very cheap and a lot of the criticisms towards him are justified..... However, he and Shapiro deserve props for rebuilding as fast as they have and making baseball exciting again. It's just this season started slow, and people had spent money in other places.

Downtown and the Flats are not as safe and have gone to shit. You can't go to the flats after the games and party, 1) crime is too high and 2) there's nothing really there anymore. The party and joyous atmosphere has left, but as the Tribe wins and people return developers will come back.

In the 90's everything fell into place, the Flats were rocking, Nautica had the giant TV screens to watch the games, the Jake was new, with a great team in the Indians, there was no football to compete with, no Cavs with King James to compete with and the economy was much better.

Cleveland is a very cyclical town, and a town where old money for a very, very long time had kept them down and prevented growth.

The old money is dying off and they have some great ideas to bring the town alive again. Gateway and Tower City and the Flats and Warehouse Districts can thrive but they need to get apartments built up, get tougher on the crime in the area and find ways to pump money into the area so people will come back downtown. (I know this sounds bad but, drunk driving laws also have a lot to do with it..... who in the suburbs or Akron wants to go to a game or downtown now and get busted for DUI because they had a few beers. They can watch the games at the corner bar and drive a short distance home.)

And they are on their way to doing that. The thing about the 90's they had that going on and it rocked, CLEVELAND was a very serious party, good time rockin town. But the economy went south and this area is always the first to get hit hardest and one of the last to recover. BUT we are coming on strong, we just need to find something other than manufacturing as our economic stronghold.


My personal beef is with WTAM and Trivissonno being complete asswipes about "if you don't go you don't deserve to be a fan" and other blackmail BS. You don't get fans in by threatening and calling them names.... if anything you inspire contempt and resentments. Triv needs to lighten up and sell next season.

Plus you have the owner saying he won't put money in if fans don't come..... well true it's a business and he needs to try to make money, but if you can't put a decent team that people want to see on the field no one will come and then you end up in a serious downward spiral (which was what happened to Cleveland in the 50's-94). So Dolan needs to show the fans he will get the needed pieces and put some money into the team now (and he just needs to get a power hitter and resign Millwood or get a Burnett and re sign Elarton (who was not a great pitcher but knew how to win games). Prove his critics wrong.

Next season is when you judge the fan base, but you also have to keep prices very fair, keep in mind the economy is still very sluggish but is slowly coming around. If games don't start selling out and you only sell averages of 20,000 for next season, then you worry. But I have a feeling you'll see us selling 32 - 35,000 games easy. IF Dolan can keep prices reasonable.

If the games sell like I think they will and the economy shapes up, Downtown and the Flats will rock again, the cycle of the 90's will be back in full swing in a year or 2.

And if they build up the lakefront and Burke Airport ....... CLeveland truly will become a powerhouse again and stay one for a long time.
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Old 10-01-2005, 12:43 PM   #31 (permalink)
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Confused about something: How does NY winning today make them the AL East winners? They're one game up on Boston now, with a game against them tomorrow. If Boston wins, they're tied again. What's the deal?
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Confused about something: How does NY winning today make them the AL East winners? They're one game up on Boston now, with a game against them tomorrow. If Boston wins, they're tied again. What's the deal?
My dad and I have been talking for the last hour about the same thing. I'm confused as hell.
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Old 10-01-2005, 01:14 PM   #33 (permalink)
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From the AP Sports recap of the game:

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The Yankees' victory, their 16th in 20 games, clinched a playoff berth, and they took the division because Cleveland lost 4-3 to the Chicago White Sox a few minutes earlier.
How in the HELL does a Cleveland-Chicago game have anything to do with the AL East title?
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If Boston wins, they are the wild card team which is why there wouldn't be a one-game playoff (both teams are in the playoffs no matter what). That's why Cleveland losing is significant. New York wins the division because they were better head-to-head during the season (I think).
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I think that's pretty dumb :-/
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That is also how Chicago won the Central when theoretically at the time Cleveland could have tied Chisux's record.

It really doesn't matter if Boston clinches the East or not.... IF they are as great as their fans believe them to be they can handle being the WC.

Unfortunately, my INDIANS had their fate in their own hands and went up all weekend playing like inexperienced bush leaguers, swatting at the ball trying to get big hits. They somehow forgot what got them into their position, a position no one expected them to be in. Perhaps the pressure got to them, perhaps they played above their heads and it caught up or perhaps this is just a very young team that will learn what they did wrong this year and next year come out start stronger and kick ass and make the playoffs.

My guess is the latter. Win or lose today, get the one game playoff vs. Boston or go home for the winter, it's been one Hell of a great season and they have nothing to be ashamed of, they will still have a top 5 in all baseball record, they competed for something no one believed they even had a shot at, and they were exciting, heartbreaking and edge of your seat dramatic...... That is what sports is all about and this year no one did it better then the CLEVELAND INDIANS.
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..Perhaps the pressure got to them, perhaps they played above their heads and it caught up or perhaps this is just a very young team that will learn what they did wrong this year and next year come out start stronger and kick ass and make the playoffs.
Or perhaps they just lost two games each by one run against very good White Sox pitchers. No need for dramatic analysis, they just ended up barely losing a couple tough games.
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Or perhaps they just lost two games each by one run against very good White Sox pitchers. No need for dramatic analysis, they just ended up barely losing a couple tough games.
No Cross.... trust me, I've watched the games (as I watched just now 2 doubles and no outs and they could only score 1 run).

They just aren't concentrating on hitting, you can watch as each and every one of them stands and swings, they're swinging for that "big hit" instead of trying to make contact getting on base and starting a rally. Even when they have gotten a rally this weekend, the hitters instead of trying to move the runners or just extend the rally, they swat for the fences and pop up or strike out.

They're playing in front of sold out jazzed up crowds and are trying to become famous with one swat, instead of just playing like they have all season, being loose and and just hitting the ball.

Don't get me wrong Chicago has good pitching, but Cleveland has had many, many oppurtunities this weekend and as I watched they just couldn't swing to make contact, they had to swat for the "big hit".

This is inexperience and pressure. And that's not a rip on them, they made it farther than ANYONE thought possible and ever dreamt, they're just young and are learning to deal with pressure now.

Next season though will be a fun one to watch.
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Gotta give it to the Indians though, they came from nowhere (to most people) and made a good run at the end. Chicago was scared out of their pants, but came up big at the end. I just hoped that the Indians would've been able to knock Boston out of the playoffs, but it was not to be. But on a brighter note-Go Yankees!!!
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Even when they have gotten a rally this weekend, the hitters instead of trying to move the runners or just extend the rally, they swat for the fences and pop up or strike out.
pan, my condolences.

I feel bad. I should've given you these instructions, earlier. Maybe they will come in handy next year when the Indians are choking again?


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