08-14-2007, 07:02 AM | #1 (permalink) | |
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Barry Bonds cheating... but it isn't the drugs.
A friend of mine just linked to this fascinating article. I don't know how accurate it is, but...
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08-14-2007, 05:59 PM | #2 (permalink) |
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Thanks for the good read. I've always thought baseball has started to become a pansy sport. Bring back the days where players don't mind shedding some blood on the plate. This really falls on the owners lap I think though. Although it would be nice to see baseball implement some rules regarding how big protective equipment should be, owners invest alot of money into these players and naturally they want to protect that investment.
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08-15-2007, 12:24 PM | #5 (permalink) | |
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08-15-2007, 01:24 PM | #6 (permalink) |
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there's a pretty big difference between playing in high school and playing in the big leagues. For starters in high school you don't even come close to playing the amount of games in a season as you would in the majors. The level of talent you see in high school in most cases isn't close to what you find in the major's either.
I played since I was 3 and I never felt it to be mind-numbing to watch or play. To say it takes no skill is pretty bold. How can you say that being that good on a consistent basis takes no skill? Perhaps it was you who had no skill and that's why you never made it past high school. no matter how you feel about the game being pansy or not, it's not really relevant to the OP. |
08-16-2007, 06:40 AM | #7 (permalink) |
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Intresting article. And although I'm no fan of Bonds, I have to say it looks like it could possibly be all speculation on the part of the writer. Unless someone actually gets ahold of this armature and tests these claims, I'd have to side with the defendant in this case.
And willravel, I have to respectfully disagree with your opinion of playing and watching baseball. The level of play in the Majors is so high that to compare it with High School ball is pretty silly. Also, I watch lots of games, and am never bored with the action. It's by far my favorite sport to watch.
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08-16-2007, 10:52 AM | #8 (permalink) |
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It takes a lot more individual skill to be a successful ballplayer than any other team sport. In football, basketball, hockey, and soccer you can use your strength to overpower your opponent. The only time being the stronger one counts in baseball is a collision at the plate.
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08-16-2007, 02:00 PM | #9 (permalink) | |
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Sorry, I don't buy it. If that were true, the strongest players would be the highest paid... and also, if that were true you'd think every team in every sport (except baseball) would be throwing tens of millions of dollars at those World's Strongest Man competitors.
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08-16-2007, 02:24 PM | #10 (permalink) |
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Nice strawman. Does being stronger help you hit HRs? Sure, but it isn't a requirement. Soriano is 6-1, 180 and he's had three seasons with more than 35 HR. Bonds and Griffy were the best HR hitters in the 90's and neither was that big.
There are a bunch of other hugely successful small hitters out there like Ichiro and Utley. Pitchers don't need bulk either (Randy Johnson or Billy Wagner) Body types in baseball aren't important. It's about the tools (skills) you have and how good you are at making adjustments. "We aren't selling jeans" Last edited by kutulu; 08-16-2007 at 02:34 PM.. |
08-16-2007, 06:50 PM | #11 (permalink) |
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Are people still watching baseball?
Barry Bonds is a farce but if you want to make him the boogey man that broke down baseball you are mistaken. He's just the most obvious symptom of the Selig era where home runs put butts in seats. As long as something keeps attracting the minions to spend their dollars on the steriod abusers old Bud and his cronies are going to keep talking a big game about getting tough on the drugs and what not... then they will conveniently look the other way. Baseball is a face ... end of story.
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08-31-2007, 11:18 AM | #12 (permalink) |
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Baseball was originally played without gloves.
It was anything but a pansy sport.
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09-03-2007, 03:50 PM | #13 (permalink) |
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Bonds is a genius. He has figured stuff out and has gotten away with stuff that no average ball player can get away with. For that alone he deserves to be place on the top spot of baseball's totem pole.
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09-04-2007, 04:03 AM | #14 (permalink) | |
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Hell, even being left or right handed has a huge impact on many sports. The effect on baseball is the biggest I can think of.
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09-04-2007, 01:52 PM | #15 (permalink) | |
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