AfterBurn

I go to a university and my marketing class is full of hot chicks and today me and a friend sat behind this really hot blonde, i don't know anything about her but from what i've seen and heard that she's extremly picky and she blew off another friend of mine a little while ago. I don't consider myself a really good looking guy but some girls seem to like me so I know i'm not a total mess. Now, my plan is to talk to my friend about things that generally girls wanna hear in a guy and hopefully she'll hear all that then i eventually start talking to her etc. If i do this right it'll make things so much easier . My question is, what are some general things I could talk to my friend about that generally girls want to hear. Like today I figured girls like guys with feelings so I said to my friend that it doesn't feel like 2004 yet .

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Munku

I sure hope that was meant to be funny.. Because it was!

AfterBurn

Hahaha, how so? I didn't find it funny

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Munku

It just.. sounded like a joke.

Nazggul

I think your idea of "feelings" isn't quite on target. It sounds like you are trying to show some of that nice guy side of you. If you continue the approach you are using, try talking about a third mutual friend in a caring way. I think the reaction you are looking for from her is something like..."Awe, that's sweet." Am I right?

I think in general though you should just treat her like you would any other girl instead of trying to send subtle messages. Treat her like a friend, get to know her, get a study date going or something.

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I agree with Nazggul... When you put up a charade (not that you're not a nice guy, I'm sure you are...), it is less likely to succeed. I don't know whether you're looking to simply bang her, or whether you're interested in her in a romantic sense.

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AfterBurn

That's what i usually do but she'll definatly know i'm trying to pick her up because no guy asks a girl to do something without wanting something in return. I think the whole act thing will work because she'll get to know 'me' and when i do talk to her i'll already have points. Sorry I know this all sounds very shallow but I'm just asking for advice not opinions . I wanna sound like a guy that generally girls want in a guy.

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Seaver

Why dont you just walk up to her when class is getting out, say "Hi, I'm (fill in name). I just wanted to let you know I really like your (fill in article of clothing)." This will do one of two things, A) she smiles, tilts her head and thanks you, or B) she'll say "thanks" and do a half smile and usually look away.

In case A, talk for about 15 sec, then ask if she would like to get some coffee tomarrow. In case of B, just forget about it, she isnt interested.

If she's interested she'll approach you. Picky women aren't very difficult, you just need to work it differently. If she's interested she'll let you know non-verbally, if she isnt the best you can hope for is the platonic friend silently screaming "WHY GOD?!?!". Anyways hopes this helps.

AfterBurn

Because i've seen alot of guys do that to her in the first week of school. The class is huge so she probably hasn't noticed me and besides, if you're sitting and listen to someone elses conversation you can get to know the person, so by doing this she'll already think good of me and it'll make things easier for me .

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StaindGirl

Its best to be yourself, so you arent going to be acting a lie... and instead of just being nice.. and having "feelings" and all that stuff, get to know the girl.. just annoymously start talking.. maybe she'll like you.. dont jump her all excitedly but play it cool.. and see what happens.. ask her stuff.. talk about stuff you're insterested in .. you know?..

:::OshnSoul:::

Ya know what, if a girl doesn't like you for who you are, then you are better off- they don't know the cool person you really are, just by being yourself without trying to be be anything else.

Sho Nuff

Read the Getting Girls 101 thread

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ratbastid

I love the whole little drama you're putting on, though. Keep that up, there'll be a sitcom writer job in your future! This is a "George Constanza" plan if ever I heard one.

Nazggul

Not sure the two can be separated.


Agree with Sho Nuff, read Getting Girls 101. Sounds like a perfect opprotunity for a field study.

AfterBurn

it's not about her liking or not liking me yet, she doesn't even know me. the class i'm in has close to about maybe 60 people, i could go and talk to her but then i have a higher chance of getting rejected because she doesn't even know me or anything, this plan is very good in my opinion except I don't know anything to talk about which girls would wanna hear. I read the getting girls 101 thread but I don't see anything in it which could help me.

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slimcr

dude, you're lucky im not that girl......doesnt feel like 2004 yet? What the heck is that supposed to mean?


if she heard you say that, thats it, no soup for you.

AfterBurn

Hahahha, I thought it was a cool thing to say, I thought it showed deep thought and feelings...Why seriously what's wrong with it?

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water_boy1999

"doesn't feel like 2004 yet"? Awww....you're such a sensitive man!

Bwaaahahahahahaha!!!!

In my experiences, the super picky women generally aren't the best girlfriends. Thing is, they get hit on and harassed by so many men, that the tend to think that the next man that talks to her is going to be the same as every other guy.

Good thing, you are in a class with her so you have ample time to let her get to know you. Perhaps asking if the seat next to her is taken might show you are a classy guy right from the start. Don't try to be something you are not. If your friend is sitting with you, just get into a general conversation....talk about a movie you have recently seen with him, then glance at her and ask if she has seen it as well. I found that when I try to make a woman like me for something I am not, it never works. Then again, some of the picky women out there are only looking at the exterior instead of what's on someone's insides. If that's the case, you will find out very quickly that she isn't worth your time.

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AfterBurn

Lol, ok, I gotta know, what's wrong with the 2004 comment?

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SpikeQX99

I thought the 2004 comment was pretty good. In a funny sort of way. One such line that you could use and hopefully she gets it, otherwise she stands there and stares at you and you go "get it? doesn't FEEL like 2004?" She just stares at you and walks off. Congratulations, you had her attention for the 20 seconds you needed to introduce yourself and you spent it trying to explain a "joke".

I know what you are thinking though I've not done any of that. My first day at college, I was outside the classroom and a gal came up to me and commented she liked my hat or something like that. So we kinda make idle chit chat, and when class opened up, I thought I would be "smooth" and sit next to her, so as i sat next to her, she got up and moved 2 seats over! I was like WTF is that? Kinda funny now that I supposed that idle small talk implied interest.

Oh well. Gotta keep on movin'

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Sleepyjack

guys with feelings normally means stuff like they care about things, can talk about their own emotions, be sensitve and caring basically. The fact that it doens't feel like 2004 is not really related to any kind of caring or empathetic aspect of human nature, in that it's an observation, nothing really about emotions so much.

I thought it was a joke as well, a sorta play on words and they're differing meanings in different and ambigious contexts.
Like the stupid joke:
"I feel like an icecream"
"That's funny, cause you don't look like one"

other than that, i agree with ratbastid though, sounds definitley George material which is good and bad i guess.
Maybe you should start doing the opposite of whatever you've ever done before, and something will click?

motdakasha

To reiterate:
Don't be someone else, be yourself.

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Knowing me I would walk up to her and say say in the most melodramatic way, followed by deadpan humor "I have feeling, I'm talking to you aren't I. Wait is horny a feeling... ? it really doesn't matter, you want to get coffee after class ?"

That would be a "see if the girl has a sense of humor and can carry a conversation" test, if she says no I figure it wouldn't have worked anyway and if she says yes

*disclaimer* The following opinion involved very bad ideas which should not be followed by anyone who is slow on their feet or lack a good feel for humor and people... infact it simply shouldn't be followed by anyone. Seriously, why are you reading this... horrible idea

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analog

If you just want to hook up with her, then sure you can try that (sounds a little lame anyway, and if she's smart she'll probably pick up on it anyway).

If you're looking for something more... you can't start a relationship with dishonest intentions, like having a fake conversation.

emphant

That is so not true. If your intentions are to have a relationship, there is nothing wrong with using the Plan9 stuff. Confidence, humor, and unpredictability are all attractive traits to women no matter what typeof relationship you want.
Furthermore, there is no need for Plan9 in this thread,I'll tell you what he would say.

Be confident!

Don't be a sissy. Girls don't want to hear about feelings (and if they did, it doesn't feel like 2004 is NOT something that would qualify as been sweet, or sensitive)

Go up to her and say something funny or unique. Maybe an observation on today's class. Smile! If you get a genuine smile in return, you are in. Chit chat for a quick second, then ask if she wants to go get coffee or for her phone number.

This girl likely already knows if you have a chance or not, there is no use spending weeks trying to get her to like you, it doesn't work like that. Just go ahead and speak to her.

Plan9Senior

God, sorry but you sound so pathetic. Why are you putting this girl up on a pedestal before you even have spoken to her. For all you know she could be a total idiot and completely below you. The problem with a lot of guys is that they look at these "hot girls" and get intimidated and immediately start wondering what to do.. what to say.. how to act... etc. STOP IT! Act as if this girl would be lucky to talk to you. Regardless if this is true or not, think this. Keeping her below you in your mind will make it a lot easier to approach her or even talk to her. Like I said before, don't get all exited over her anyhow. Just because she is good looking doesn't mean she is anything special. I know a ton of phenomenal looking women that I wouldn't give the time of day with because they are not worth my time. Change your mindset, because approaching this situation the way you are about to will get you about the same distance as your friend got with this girl... rejected .

Minx

No guy asks a girl to do something without wanting something in return???? Oh please....someone say it isn't so. I think this is a VERY immature attitude to take (forgive me for saying so) and if that's the way you truly feel and think....I hope this girl doesn't give you the time of day. It is not about points either. *Minx rolls eyes and shakes her head* As analog put it so well, a fake conversation is no way to try to start anything with this girl.

And I agree 110% with Plan9. Just because this girl is "hot" doesn't make her a goddess. She could be a supreme bitch...she could be a complete idiot that cannot carry on a conversation at all....she could be the most selfish, nasty person you would ever have the misfortune to meet. Try to get to know her first (even a little) before you start trying to "fool" her into thinking your a stand up guy based on the "planned" conversations you allow her to overhear.

You know, the best way to enter into a GOOD relationship is to be honest and be yourself.

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AfterBurn

Well think of it this way, if a guy came up to you and started talking to you about whatever would you actually think he's just being nice and wants to be friends?

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Conclamo Ludus

Talk about romantic comedies and chocolate and manicures and Oprah and cooking and soap operas. This is what every woman likes.

The only answer you should read on this thread is this one:

That sums it up. Good luck. Women like insensitive men too. Women like damn near anything. Just like guys like damn near anything. Here's a real ground-shaking concept: talk about the things you give a shit about.

Then again I'm a single guy, so maybe I don't know what I am talking about.

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AfterBurn

Hey it's just university. I don't really plan to have a boyfriend/girlfriend relationship with anyone just yet.

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toxic515

I'm totally with Ratbastid on this deal... George Castanza if there ever was one... Your idea about feelings is that it doesn't FEEL like 2004?? "I can't FEEL my legs" "I FEEL like barfing"? Come on, you wanna be a guy, be a straight up honest guy. If she doesn't like you , so what?? Frankly if you pull off a caper like this and she DOES like you, what do you have??? Someone who doesn't like YOU, but a poor imitation of whoever it is you're going to try to be.

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emphant

Er, let me get this straight. You do want to pick this girl up right?

Why do you not want her to think you are picking her up? That's like not wanting a sandwich to know you are going to eat it. What do you plan to do, make her think you just want to be friends? That will land you just that, a friend. Not a girlfriend, not a sex partner.

Unless what you really want is a friend, you are going abou this the entirely wrong way.

AfterBurn

My plan is to talk to my friend and sound like a 'perfect guy' then when she hears all of that I start talking to her and by then she would already like me so I would have to do practicly no work to get in her pants hopefully .

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wry1

After reading your stuff, all I've got to say is:

You'd better be rich, and she'd better be shallow. If both of these conditions don't exist, you don't have a hope in Hell with her. Minx (and everybody else) is right when she points out that you don't know what this girl is like, and that putting up an act to try and "fool" her into thinking you're worth the time of day is not a good idea. If your buddy that she blew off is a lot like you, then take the hint: be a decent guy! According to the women I know, that's what they want!

As always, it's just my opinion. I could be right.

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emphant

Um, no. Stop. Don't even start. Why don't you just go up and introduce yourself? Then you know RIGHT AWAY whether or not you have a chance.

AfterBurn

Update: I started talking to my friend about Lord of the Rings and kept saying things like "I noticied that frodo was feeling very frustrated in that part, blah blah blah" and I noticied after a while that she was actually paying attention to what I was saying then yesterday (Friday) I was talking to my friend about Paycheck and she turned around and we were all talking about it and how bad it sucked. I decided not to do anything yesterday though but on Monday I'm going to ask her out. Wish me luck.

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mlrd

Well, good luck on the path you have chosen .

At least your method got her talking to you, although I do agree that you should be yourself, not pretend to be someone you are not.

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