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Old 09-01-2010, 11:13 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Escort vs Traditional Date

Mores aside, would you choose the sure "pay for Play" route with an escort or the longer, uncertain route of dinner, movie and "Back to My Place"?
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Old 09-01-2010, 11:17 AM   #2 (permalink)
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That depends. Am I just looking to get laid or am I looking for a relationship? If I just want my knob rubbed by someone who's not me, I see no issues with an escort (provided she's not working for a pimp and isn't a foreigner - implying that she might be doing it against her will). But if I want something that's going to last for more than an hour (or however long you've contracted for), then obviously the dinner and a movie fills the bill.
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Old 09-01-2010, 04:41 PM   #3 (permalink)
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It has been said that the price you are paying an escort is the price that ensures she leaves when the deed is done.

As Jazz points out, it's all in what you are looking to achieve.
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Old 09-01-2010, 09:36 PM   #4 (permalink)
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fuck man, I would never hire a whore.

1. you never know if they're clean
2. you're spending more money than if you took a girl out to a date
3. i'd rather tug one off and save the money for gee, idk 1000 twinkies? whatever.
4. you gain nothing out of it.

I wouldnt care how desperate I am, thats just hella dirt IMO.
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Old 09-01-2010, 10:53 PM   #5 (permalink)
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As with any commodity, the more you pay the better range of goods you have access to.

The OP mentioned "Escort" rather than "prostitute", and generally I would expect an escort to be good company, and maybe prepared to have sex (assuming this had been agreed in the original commission).

A formal escort service in a country/state where sex for cash is legal and above board is probably regulated, the girls tested for STIs and so on, and if it's a successful business with a good reputation will give you all the normal recourse to complaints procedures and refunds etc as you would get elsewhere.

An illegal escort service that is using "friend for hire" as a cover for "sex for sale" could well have the weaknesses that are mentioned above, and could also see you open to legal action if it actually turns out to be an undercover law enforcement officer hoping you'll solicit for sex.

Not for me (I'm married, AND it's illegal here), but in a place where the legal system allows it I'd say go for it.
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Old 09-01-2010, 11:22 PM   #6 (permalink)
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To tell you the truth if its all about gettin' some I don't really see the difference...in fact the hooker would probably be easier at least the head games, the silly get to know ya small talk, the what ifs, the ass kissing and the unbearably dull dinner conversation can be done away with. I mean if you're going to spend the money anyway right? Whats the difference between buying dinner and movie and buying Michelle?

But like mentioned above its really all about what you want out of your date, for anything other then just sex the answer is pretty obvious.

Having said that I've never bought a hooker and usually go the traditional date route...although at times I wonder why I bother it often seems like more trouble then its worth.
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Old 09-02-2010, 10:54 AM   #7 (permalink)
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I have no problem with prostitution as a concept... paying for "services" is done in all other areas, why not for sex? In practice, the sex trade tends to be rife with abused women, disease, and drugs (as I understand it). On those grounds, I'm against it. But any woman (or man) who willingly decides that they want to rent their genitals or sexual abilities, and is a competent adult should be allowed to do so.

But personally, I've never been so driven for sex that I would be willing to pay someone for it. I may be an oddity, but sex with a complete stranger just doesn't do much for me in anything other than masturbatory fantasies. In fact, it strikes me as little more than a form of masturbation, and I can do that myself. I prefer (require?) at least some emotional content, even if the sex is just with a casual friend... at least there is some connection. So count me as a wine, dine, and hope vote.
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Old 09-02-2010, 12:03 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Screwing just to screw doesn't do it for me.

I'm all about the chase, the game, whatever.

If I wanna get off I'll just noogie the narwhal.

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3. i'd rather tug one off and save the money for gee, idk 1000 twinkies? whatever.
I like the way you think. How do you feel about becoming my financial adviser?
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Old 09-02-2010, 12:28 PM   #9 (permalink)
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Screwing just to screw doesn't do it for me.

I'm all about the chase, the game, whatever.

If I wanna get off I'll just noogie the narwhal.



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Old 09-02-2010, 03:05 PM   #10 (permalink)
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I have no issues with people paying for sex, so long as the seller is in it 100% willingly (and of course the assumption that they are also clean, etc)

That being said...I don't think I could do it myself
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Old 09-03-2010, 01:02 AM   #11 (permalink)
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plan9: My services come with a price, one twinkie every 2 days.
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plan9: My services come with a price, one twinkie every 2 days.
You're going to end up chained down in a Virginia basement somewhere, you know that, right?
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Old 09-03-2010, 06:40 AM   #13 (permalink)
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I had a ~6 month stretch where I was visiting escorts every weekend. I was single and making good money, so I could afford it. Up to that point, I had only had about 4 sex partners (I was 32), mainly because of self-esteem issues. Because I didn't have a lot of experience, I wanted to try some things I hadn't experienced yet. I enjoyed that stretch. There were a few that were just in it for the money and watching the clock, but most of them were easy to talk to and engaging. My paid experience with those ladies really helped improve my confidence level which helped me start dating later that summer. Shortly thereafter, I met a woman I fell in love with and we're coming up on our second wedding anniversary later this month. As I said, the escorts were fun, but every time I make love to my wife, I'm reminded how fulfilling it is to have a deep emotional connection along with the physical. Escorts were definitely cheaper, though, in the long run...
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Old 09-03-2010, 07:09 AM   #14 (permalink)
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How much are escorts these days? I rather spend my money on a date where conservation might turn awkward.
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Old 09-05-2010, 11:15 AM   #15 (permalink)
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How much are escorts these days? I rather spend my money on a date where conservation might turn awkward.
I was always under the impression this service was illegal, at least, in the ways described above.

Anon, I think you are the first person I have heard who has partaked of the service. I'm curious if others have participated as well.
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Old 09-06-2010, 01:10 PM   #16 (permalink)
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I have no issues with people paying for sex, so long as the seller is in it 100% willingly (and of course the assumption that they are also clean, etc) ...
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... Whats the difference between buying dinner and movie and buying Michelle? ...
Disease? I know a lot of people. Lots of diversity. I've met hookers (not all hookers in the planet) and I've met a couple of strippers (4, to be exact) in my short lifetime. They were all desperately desolate and in need of that quick cash. All living hand to mouth. (Granted I met them at a rehab environment, but that's all I have to say about their personalities)

Now as appealing as an escort may sound, as soon as I think about people in the professional sex industry I see exploitation and horribly hazardous work environments.

How exactly would you know they are willing? How would you know they are clean? How do you not know s/he's not going turn in 90% of the money s/he made to her/his pimp? Because the website/classified says so? Isn't the sex industry bent on "selling" a certain personality to you? Isn't it her/his job to convince you that they do, in fact, enjoy their work? Isn't what you are paying for a moments suspension from reality to be with someone who likes you for who you are?

Escorts and prostitutes are torture for the soul. No thank you.
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Old 09-06-2010, 01:29 PM   #17 (permalink)
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I don't like sex just for sex, so an escort or prostitute would never do it for me.
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Old 09-06-2010, 01:56 PM   #18 (permalink)
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as a reason, I'm calling bullshit. I mean seriously

So, Zeraph, a girl walks up to you and says, "let's fuck" aaaand it's free ... you'll say no? I mean, she isn't obligated to "spare your feelings" by faking it. Nor does she require you to be a "regular customer" ... or something like that.

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Old 09-06-2010, 04:22 PM   #19 (permalink)
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And another thing. All those people that gave this ...


as a reason, I'm calling bullshit. I mean seriously

So, Zeraph, a girl walks up to you and says, "let's fuck" aaaand it's free ... you'll say no? I mean, she isn't obligated to "spare your feelings" by faking it. Nor does she require you to be a "regular customer" ... or something like that.
I concur. It's a simple pleasure, one of those many small things that makes life worthwhile. Just fucking sometimes is a natural method of release.

Furthermore, you don't have to hunt every piece of fine meat you eat (Redundant analogy is redundant; I am vegetarian :P)

I view the whole escort thing as similar to wine. I can't terribly be bothered all the time, but if I do it's because I want the good stuff and because it feels damn good. Not worth the cheap stuff though.
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It is. I think that was half the fun of it

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How much are escorts these days? I rather spend my money on a date where conservation might turn awkward.
All depends on the girl. Typical rates were probably around $200-250 for an hour. Some girls charged less (chunky or ragged girls), some more (Angela Aspen, a porn star, was charging $1500 for bareback with a completed STD screen). All the sex was protected, while oral was not, with rare exception. If you wanted a trip to the islands (Greek, codeword for anal), you had to pay extra, if the girl was so inclined. Tried it once. It was Ok. I definitely like the front side a whole lot more. I know Craigslist has been in the news lately for removing their adult services section, but I never used them. Preferred 411 is a website that makes it easier for the girls to pre-screen their clients and most of them offered a discount if using P411. There were also a few local boards with ads on them.
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All depends on the girl. Typical rates were probably around $200-250 for an hour. Some girls charged less (chunky or ragged girls), some more (Angela Aspen, a porn star, was charging $1500 for bareback with a completed STD screen). All the sex was protected, while oral was not, with rare exception. If you wanted a trip to the islands (Greek, codeword for anal), you had to pay extra, if the girl was so inclined. Tried it once. It was Ok. I definitely like the front side a whole lot more. I know Craigslist has been in the news lately for removing their adult services section, but I never used them. Preferred 411 is a website that makes it easier for the girls to pre-screen their clients and most of them offered a discount if using P411. There were also a few local boards with ads on them.
Holy shit that is EXPENSIVE! Forget the reasons I gave earlier. I don't do it because for anything less than $250 I'll end up with a troll. At least when it comes to dating, it's an all round healthy experience, you meet new people, you get an ego boost talking to someone flattering the hell outta you ... yeah .. I'd rather date.
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Old 09-10-2010, 08:41 AM   #22 (permalink)
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During my drug days I tried escorts, and it was horrible.
Couldn't get into it (or get it up). Might have been the drugs
"giveth the desire but taketh away the ability", or it might be
I felt like I was exploiting someone.

Just my experience.
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Old 09-10-2010, 09:30 AM   #23 (permalink)
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Let's look at this at a purely economical view...

Typical Date:
Transportation: $10 (depending on where you live, if you are picking her up or not)
Movie: $25
Dinner: Anywhere from $40 (cheap) to $120 (with drinks at a nice restaurant)

(Chances of getting laid? Let's say 50/50)

Escort: $250 for an hour (which no guy needs for sex)

(Chances of getting laid 100%)

So let's say... $80 for dinner, $25 for the movie, $10 in transportation. That's half of what you would pay for an escort for an hour. Plus, there isn't a chance that you won't get laid after you drop all that money.

I don't say hire escorts all the time, but if you are horny and just want to get laid? What's the big deal? Use condoms and get tested afterwards.

I've always found that I do better on dates when I'm not desperate to get laid. Girls can smell that on you. It's like a really stinky cologne.



I agree with what greywolf says, as long as she is doing it under her own free will, why the hell not.

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I knew a call girl once. She was one of my best friends and only did it when she needed quick cash. She was $200 bucks a pop and usually had someone wait in the car for her while she was on call. She didn't see it as a huge deal and never really let it bother her. She just saw it as offering another service (She cleaned houses and worked part time as CNA). Some hookers are like Xman said and some... arn't. I guess it depends on the person.

I went a LONG time without sex because of some fucked up head issues keeping me from hitting on girls. When I did, it wasn't pretty. Would I have hired a hooker just to get over that "I haven't fucked in a long time" spurt? Yes, but I didn't know how. Sex is what you make of it, if it's a HUGE DEAL in your mind, then you will have the problems that come about with it. If you don't... then you end up getting laid a lot.
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as a reason, I'm calling bullshit. I mean seriously
One time, when we were in a hotel, my wife dressed up as a hooker and pretended to be someone else. I was completely unable to perform until she became herself again. So yes, for me, it is not just the sex.
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Old 09-11-2010, 06:02 PM   #25 (permalink)
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Let's look at this at a purely economical view...

Typical Date:
Transportation: $10 (depending on where you live, if you are picking her up or not)
Movie: $25
Dinner: Anywhere from $40 (cheap) to $120 (with drinks at a nice restaurant)

(Chances of getting laid? Let's say 50/50)

Escort: $250 for an hour (which no guy needs for sex)

(Chances of getting laid 100%)

So let's say... $80 for dinner, $25 for the movie, $10 in transportation. That's half of what you would pay for an escort for an hour. Plus, there isn't a chance that you won't get laid after you drop all that money.
One thing you left out is that if you play your cards right with a non-professional, you can get laid more than once; your initial investment can continue to pay dividends for a while after a date. I don't think an escort will offer frequent customer perks anywhere near that generous.
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Old 09-13-2010, 08:13 AM   #27 (permalink)
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Interesting article about this very subject. Especially where men just end up
talking to these girls.
washingtonpost.com
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Good article. From strippers to hookers, there are widespread myths about the sex industry that just aren't true. Human trafficking and coercion are the real problems.
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