LoganSnake

What is it with people are their inability to differentiate an adult woman's shaved pussy and a pussy of a pre-pubescent girl? You people have issues if you can't accept a shaved woman for anything less than a girl. Damn.

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mixedmedia

I don't really care about the issue, but very skinny young-looking girls do look pre-pubescent with their pussies shaved. I don't understand how anyone doesn't notice that.

But, statistically speaking, I realize that the vast number of men who enjoy looking at a shaved pussy aren't thinking about it in that way. I don't really see a point in denying that it can appear that way sometimes, though.

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LoganSnake

Wouldn't very skinny young looking girls look pre-pubescent even without their pussies shaved? It's a moot point because they would just look like very young girls with hairy pussies. Which brings me to my original point which is people attributing the status of a woman based on her pubic hair.

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mixedmedia

No, they wouldn't look pre-pubescent because they have pubic hair.

I'm not saying that I think most men like to look at them for that reason, just that there is a visual similarity that, really, can't be overlooked. That is what people, by and large, are basing their objections on. It may be a little reactionary, but they aren't making up what they see.

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LoganSnake

Well, I, personally, think it's dumb. A woman is a woman regardless of whether or not she has a bush.

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BearNaked

Logan, I clearly stated it was MY preference, and what it reminds ME of. I do not think there is anything at all wrong with it, people are free to do as they wish especially when there is no harm. I prefer a woman to look like a woman, they way I percieve they should look, that is my right.

Maybe it is just me, but I fear that there are some weirdos out there who like it because it does make them think they are looking at much younger girls. While I enjoy watching porn with consenting adults in it, I absolutely detest child porn or any thought of it. Being a father with 2 daughters and one granddaughter (as of now), I must admit that my priorities are definitely swayed by this.

Just so it is not read wrong, I want to clarify that I don't think that shaved pussies have anything to do with child porn, I kinda worded that wrong. I was just referring to the sick minds that do draw a parallel between the two.

LoganSnake

I never challenged anyone's opinion here regarding the bush. I'm merely saying that to me, a woman is a woman regardless of whether or not she is bare and I don't understand how anyone could undermine that womanhood based on a patch of hair. There are plenty of sick minds out there for sure, but I can't base my opinions on what they think about when looking at a shaved pussy. That's all.

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james t kirk

With regard to the prepubescent / shave pussy comparison...I think its a bit of a leap to equate guys who like bald pussies to diddlers, especially when so many woman shave on their own accord. I will also say this, some girls can have pubic hair at age 9 or 10, and at that age, they are just little girls.

I do find a nice bush to be very "womanly" though, provided it isn't an overgrown muff, which is a turn off. I think for me though, it's about the contrast between the mons and the rest of the body that gets emphasized by a nice inverted triangle. I do prefer the trimmed bush up front look over bald, however, I wouldn't dictate terms to a GF. Though, if she asked.....

In looking at the numbers in the poll I am frankly surprised just how many male posters on here only want to see a bald pussy. My only guess would be that they are the "younger" demographic on the TFP, whereas I am definitely in the more, ahem, older demographic.

Plan9

I wonder if there is any relationship between the amount of hair that guys like on their girls to the hair that guys are backing down below.

I'm nearly fuzzless thanks the grace of the hair gods. I like the fur-hat-up-top look best.

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noodle

I concur. I keep it rimmed clean around the edges and rather short just because I'm more comfortable that way.
When it's 105 degrees out and 99% humidity, shaven completely burns like fire and thick undergrowth is just swampy.

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highthief

I'm a guy and don't like big bush but a nicely trimmed one is fine, as is the down to the wood look.

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Plan9

"Down to the wood?"

Wow. Never heard it put that way before. I'll remember that.

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BearNaked

Must be for a guy.

BigBaldRon

I take it you have no daughters OR never changed a girl's diaper.


GImme hair.

Leto

Oh not so fast... I love the little extra that hair provides, something to twirl. Nope, bush is good. Not that I would ever say no to an adult bald puss, but the hair definitely does not turn me off.

As JTK puts it, very sexually appealing, that dark, downy patch is. (by the way, which morning show were you listening to?)


This surprises me too. Seems restrictive. I say, bring em all on!


Btw, I voted the last choice.

james t kirk

Maureen Holloway on Q107, maybe about 3 weeks ago or so.

Somehow Derringer got onto the shaved pussy thing and Mo pipes up, "Oh, well, no, bush is back in"

Derringer, "No, really?"

Mo, "Oh yeah, bush is back in style, blah blah blah"

kutulu

I assume you apply this logic to your woman's legs and armpits as well. If you can't differentiate the difference between a shaved pussy and a little girl's than that is your problem.

LoganSnake

I have no daughters, but I have seen plenty of changes of baby girls. Like I said, I'm normal enough to not think about a kid when I'm looking at a shaved pussy.

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Leto

I dont think that is an accurate syllogism.

xxSquirtxx

I prefer at least partially shaved.

As long as ya don't need a machete to get through the jungle, it's all good.

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Leto

I love listening to the Last Word on Q107... the banter can be quite entertaining. I think she also said at another time that males are tending away from the "metro" look of shaving their chest & backs. The normal look is back (i.e. Burt Reynolds..)

BigBaldRon

Those two areas with hair on them wouldn't really bother me either.

Clare

i like keeping it all neat, sometimes a trim but if not all bare.....usually all bare. because shapes arent a skill i have and i love the feeling of it being smooth, when "entertaining myself"

rr1024

We both like bald look, feel and taste

ejm_msp

What really sucks is having no time to wax, and instead shaving. And then waiting for it to grow back enough to wax.


Itchy Itchy Itchy.

Lucifer

I was with a woman some time ago who was completely shaven, except for a tiny little patch about the size of a postage stamp. I thought it was about the silliest thing I had ever seen in bed.

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abaya

This thought is always in the back of my mind when I'm thinking about the shaved/waxed issue. Sure, a guy doesn't think about kids when he sees a woman's bare pussy... but what about the reverse, when he's changing a baby girl's diaper and has to touch and look at bare labia... is there even a millisecond's flash of a sexual thought/reference, in that moment? I'd like to hear an honest response on that, from the *fathers* in the group. Is it just a totally different thing, you make no connection between the two, and therefore my fears are unfounded? Or is there something to it... even though most people would never admit it, for fear of being accused of pedophilia? I'm honestly asking.

I'd also like to know the age spread on the guy's poll responses, because I think one's exposure to porn (different generations) *does* shape what you'd like to see on a woman. For that, I wish we were all back in the 70s.

Anyway, trimmed but natural look here... occasionally, I like it when my husband gets out his electric razor and trims me closer than usual (that method doesn't produce razor burn or ingrown hairs, which is why I like it), but otherwise, I prefer hair. I feel much more womanly and comfortable when I have my dark, natural-looking "triangle" of hair down there, and I keep it as neat and trimmed as I can. It just feels wrong to look like a 10 year old (to me).

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Bill O'Rights

PERFECT!
That's what I'm talkin' about.

And...yeah...it might be interesting to have the "preference" broken down by age. I just turned 45, so...yeah, I grew up in the 70's. I am also very much pro bush. (Wow. Saying that I'm pro Bush just sent a cold chill down my spine)

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Leto

so true... I think my first exposure to *porn* so to speak was my mother's Herb Alpert & the Tijuana Brass album cover: Whipped Cream and Other Delights. Since then I've had a preference for dark haired women covered in whipped cream....



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Jenna

I'm a woman, I tend to go from the landing strip to the completely bald look. I guess it all depends. Some days I feel like shaving it all, while others I don't. Although, lately I'm realizing that I like a little hair down there, otherwise, I feel like I'm 10.

I'm not a fan of NO shaving. I don't mind if a woman keeps it trimmed up a bit, but sometimes it's just wayyy too much.

PlanG

http://www.kindgirls.com/photo.php?d...e&num=12&s=&p=

Perfect amount of bush tbh.

StanT

Nope, none whatsoever.

My thoughts ran the range of "OMG how the hell did she get shit up there?" to "Your mom's been out the house for 5 f'ing minutes and you saved this for me?"

My thoughts while changing a diaper are about the same as changing the oil on a car, just get the job done.


On an adult female; furry, bald, and trimmed are all fine by me. Never saw one I didn't like.

Deltona Couple

I totally agree with you on this one. Just because i like my wife totally shaved, does not mean I desire her to be a prepubecent girl. We BOTH are totally shaved, because we like the feel of skin-on-skin when we make love. no hair in the way, etc. And we both prefer to use regular dental floss for our teeth, not the curly kind.

For your equation, I am 39 years old. and have always prefered it shaved, or at a bare MINIMUM, no hair around the labia.




Honestly answering, as a father of 2 girls, never once had a thought in that direction when changing diapers. its more of a job, considering the SMELL! AUGH! they are teenagers now, and I can STILL remember the smell of their diapers! I think that will burn in my nose memory til the day i die!!...lol.

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abaya

Whoa, forgot about my last post here!

Thanks, StanT and Deltona, for your honest answers. It's not as if I thought parents went around secretly hiding pedophile behaviors, but I just wondered if parents ever had to sort of push away weird thoughts that might crop up when they see their own children naked, y'know? (Come to think of it, I think I got it from this Icelandic novel I read a long time ago... some strange incestuous thoughts that the father had to deal with, never acting on... so you can blame that for putting the idea in my head.)

But I guess I was still curious about the link to pre-pubescence, etc. so thanks for answering and clearing that up for me!

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BearNaked

I will turn 50 this year. I have changed 2 daughters, and so far 1 granddaughters, diapers. Have I ever looked at their genitalia as sexual organs and not just parts to dispose of waste, yes. Though, I have absolutely no fear that it would ever be more than an observation, to say that I did not notice would be a lie. But, there is no way I could muster up any sexual thoughts, even if I tried **shiver**.

When I see a woman shaved, it just does not look right. It does not look womanly. I love the look, and the feel, of the fuzz. It in no way interferes with any sexual activity at all, and anyone who says otherwise is just using that as an excuse. Sure, you get the odd unexpected bit of floss, but that is part of the fun.

I would not care at all if a woman did not shave any other part of her body, we as a society are getting way to hung up on stuff like that.

Again, all this said, I do believe any adult should do as they please, as long as it is good adult fun things are good.

abaya

Thanks also for your honesty, too... this seems like a pretty human thing, I would imagine.

And yay for more people liking hair down there! Just my bias.

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MEAD

Forgetting for a moment the "adult woman's shaved pubic hair as a symbol of pre-pubescence, and the desire for such equates to some complicated desire for the pre-pubescent female" idea, consider instead something more simple. We are speaking on sexual desire here, specifically that desire aroused by nudity. Obviously, the state of nudity only really exists because the state of being clothed does too. Simply, to become nude one must remove their clothes. So this sexual desire aroused by nudity exists in the juxtaposition of what is clothed to what is unclothed, what is covered and what is uncovered. I argue that this creates a specific schema (thought pattern).

Now the question is whether or not pubic hair can work within that schema, is pubic hair like clothing? Well, it is true that it is removable like clothing, and does obscure the view of bare flesh as clothing does. It also provides some form of protection from the elements that clothing does. With all these similarities to clothing, I think that the removal of pubic hair can be seen to cause arousal in the same way the removal of clothing does.

I know I wrote that in such a manner as to open myself up to criticisms in my logic, or tightness of my argument, but that's a good thing here.


Personally, bare certainly feels a lot nicer. But I do go for trimmed, bare, or full bush at times. I'm not picky, it depends on the vagina and my mood.

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daneo

I must admit to liking the completely newly shaved look, but here's the thing. To me it's something sort of extra, a spice so to speak, something extra enticing.

On a daily basis I'm actually more into there being a somewhat big amount of hair, not the "full bush/hair forest" look, but enough so that it isn't some sort of ridiculous "hair ornament". I'm not that much into triangle or other geometric shape sort of hair. So I guess it's either the one or the other for me.

Willravel

So long as it's maintained, I'm fine. Bald is a bit... old school (read: high school), but it's not horrible. I tend to keep things clean, personally, but bald isn't my style.

DaveOrion

Yea, I gotta agree with Squirt, its all good. Shaved or bushy, I prefer neatly trimmed or partially shaved, its a matter of personal preference, but I'm not fanatical. I'm flexible and easy to get along with on this matter. I still don't think a grown woman with a shaved muff looks anything like a prepubescent little girl, nor would I want them to. The lack of hair is the only similarity with nothing else in common, except being female. Maybe the idea, in males, stems from a lust for very young girls which I do not have. Few things in life (mine in particular) are better than a sexually liberated woman past the age of 30..........shaved or not.

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