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Old 03-11-2006, 08:02 PM   #1 (permalink)
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After checking out Halx's thread on facials, I was thinking about the ideal behind TFP for evolution and growth in areas of our lives, and it occured to me that in our sexuality forum we talk a lot about relationships and what works and what doesn't, but in terms of sex there is less understanding and general comprehension about the act itself.

I think if we pooled our knowledge together it would give us (and me) a better understanding of our bodies and how they relate to pleasure and intimacy.

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Body language is basic stuff. Every woman and man has their sexual peculiarities and unique preferences. Exploring each other's bodies and learning what each other really enjoys is what makes sex so much fun. Every woman is different, but there are certain specific things you can do that are extremely enjoyable to a vast majority of women, that give novel, unique, or incredibly pleasurable feelings to a woman. I think calling these things "techniques" should be fine.


There are few different ways to bring a woman to climax that I know of, so I figure this is a good place to start. The 3 different types of orgasms a girl can achieve through physical stimulation:
1. Clitoral
2. G-spot
3. Deep spot/Cervical ridge


This was the best diagram I could find for it, as I could not find any direct images showing the cervical ridge.

Clitoral orgasm- there are various techniques to have a girl orgasm from clit stimulation, but the anatomy is pretty much basic knowledge. Most girls get off this way.

G-spot orgasm- The standard (for fingers) is the "come hither" technique for both finding and stimulating the g-spot. Area usually feels spongy or sometimes "rough". Size and position vary from woman to woman.

Deep spot/cervical ridge orgasm- I'm not really sure anymore how many people know about this major spot. The cervical ridge goes all the way around the vagina just below where it opens up to the cervix itself and the fornix surrounding it. The tissue is harder, almost rubbery. When a woman has an orgasm the cervical ridge undergoes deep rhythmic contractions. Deep pressing/rubbing motions with the tips of your fingers mimic it/stimulate the area, and the cervical ridge is usually what the cock rubs against when you're fucking.

Something interesting I noticed in bio class that I checked out further. The clitoris actually extends 3 or 4 inches inside the body. It's made up of 4 'bulbs' hidden beneath the surface which wrap around the vagina, 2 on either side. These bulbs fill with blood and become firm and erect during stimulation, just like the penis.

The clit is much larger than what you see on the outside; most of it is on the inside. With the penis, the most pleasurable area for stimulation is the head but pleasure is felt throughout the entire penis, both head and shaft. The clit is the same, pleasure is felt throughout the whole clitoris, glans and the shaft, which is inside the body.


This stuff is just anatomy knowledge, but anything you've found interesting/odd/amazing/great is welcome in the thread.
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Old 03-11-2006, 09:42 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Is there any way for someone to stimulate all three orgasm points at the same exact time?

I think Seaver indicated a way to hit the G-Spot and the clit at the same time. I suppose if you did his method and had a gigantic dick it would work.
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Old 03-11-2006, 11:57 PM   #3 (permalink)
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I've tried actually, any woman i've tried it with said it was "too intense". There seemed to be a general agreement that a clitoral orgasm was much different than a deep spot orgasm and that a gspot orgasm felt "somewhere in between but different".

I've found that it's much easier to sustain an orgasm and encourage multiple orgasms when you stimulate the deep spot
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Old 03-12-2006, 02:05 AM   #4 (permalink)
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I've tried actually, any woman i've tried it with said it was "too intense". There seemed to be a general agreement that a clitoral orgasm was much different than a deep spot orgasm and that a gspot orgasm felt "somewhere in between but different".

I've found that it's much easier to sustain an orgasm and encourage multiple orgasms when you stimulate the deep spot
I agree here, with the women I've been with, usually they like when my fingers (or for the deepspot penis) wander into the deepspot , or I find the sometimes elusive g-spot, then if I just work the clit.
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Old 03-12-2006, 02:29 AM   #5 (permalink)
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Foreplay, Light touch, Mound massage, foot rubbing, and calf massage tend to make the actual orgasm more enjoyable as well. I realize these do not actually "cause " the orgasm but feedback has led me to believe the way we lead up to the final goal is extremely important for the overall experience to be memorable, and it also seems to garner comments as to the skill involved....which really makes the whole thing worthwhile....heh.
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Old 03-12-2006, 03:19 AM   #6 (permalink)
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I don't understand the point of this thread. Could you explain it in perhaps a different way?
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Old 03-12-2006, 08:37 AM   #7 (permalink)
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Hmmm i'll try

Creativity in the physical act of sex itself can be difficult. Many people spice it up by roleplaying, adding toys, introducing new factors ie. pain, dominance/submission. And far be it from me to knock this sort of thing, it's plenty of fun, but other than what you've added, the sex itself is usually the same stuff that you were doing before. I'm interested in finding new exciting, different, better ways to make love to my significant other... by learning more about a woman's body (or my own male body) or learning a new technique/method to give pleasure it'll make the sex more interesting, enjoyable, and exciting.

I'm sort of rambling on here, it all seemed so clear in my head when I made this thread.
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Old 03-12-2006, 08:42 AM   #8 (permalink)
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Foreplay, Light touch, Mound massage, foot rubbing, and calf massage tend to make the actual orgasm more enjoyable as well. I realize these do not actually "cause " the orgasm but feedback has led me to believe the way we lead up to the final goal is extremely important for the overall experience to be memorable, and it also seems to garner comments as to the skill involved....which really makes the whole thing worthwhile....heh.
Yeah I agree with this, gliding your hands over her body with a very light touch is a lot of fun. I found that on either side of her spine is very sensitive and it gets more so the closer you get to the back of her neck. Gliding both hands up both sides and ending in the hairline at her neck usually makes her shiver. If you don't know massage it'd be a really good idea to pick up a book and learn more about it.
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Old 03-12-2006, 09:22 AM   #9 (permalink)
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All wonderful techniques, gentlemen, that you have obviously found work in reaching your goal. I would like to add that none will work if your partner isn't responsive. I have orgasmed by just have my breasts played and sucked on. On the other hand (heh, no pun intended), the best combo of usually guaranteed techniques have done nothing but get me sore and frustrated because, well, orgasm is a lot of work and I wasn't in the mood for one.
I would also like to add that no one man should stick to one thing through different partners. I really, personally, don't like the idea that what's being done with me has been done with others-a little variation, experimentation and mutual discussion goes a long way. I realize you do what you know works best, just saying keep in mind women, while our physiology is similar, want to feel unique to one another and special to our lovers, whether it's a one-time thing or a committment. I know, for example, anyone who'd go near my feet to rub them would risk a broken nose.
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Old 03-12-2006, 10:53 AM   #10 (permalink)
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I didn't think she could get to orgasm from just cervical ridge stimulation. I found that she loved this being touched all by accident. When she was preggers, she loved to be rubbed there, it relieved the pressure, and just felt great. Now she still loves it, but I've never persued to the point of orgasm, so I'll have to try!
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Old 03-12-2006, 12:31 PM   #11 (permalink)
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All wonderful techniques, gentlemen, that you have obviously found work in reaching your goal. I would like to add that none will work if your partner isn't responsive. I have orgasmed by just have my breasts played and sucked on. On the other hand (heh, no pun intended), the best combo of usually guaranteed techniques have done nothing but get me sore and frustrated because, well, orgasm is a lot of work and I wasn't in the mood for one.
I would also like to add that no one man should stick to one thing through different partners. I really, personally, don't like the idea that what's being done with me has been done with others-a little variation, experimentation and mutual discussion goes a long way. I realize you do what you know works best, just saying keep in mind women, while our physiology is similar, want to feel unique to one another and special to our lovers, whether it's a one-time thing or a committment. I know, for example, anyone who'd go near my feet to rub them would risk a broken nose.
I think that almost goes without saying. Or maybe it should be said more?
I didn't really want this thread to be about just learning new techniques, but increasing understanding about sex and what feels good. i mean, assuming a world where all women were exactly alike, and even if you did find the "perfect" set of techniques, if you did that same stuff over and over you'd quickly become a boring, stiff lover. It's just that on the other side of the coin there are many things other people know to do that you may have never thought of doing that feel amazing for both the man and woman, but would have never occured to you on your own.
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Old 03-13-2006, 08:46 PM   #12 (permalink)
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So, assuming that the deep spot orgasm IS superior to the gspot or clitoral orgasm, does this mean that size does matter? Would a male with an average penis size be able to contact the deep spot on an average woman?
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Old 03-13-2006, 09:18 PM   #13 (permalink)
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Maybe I just haven't figured this all out enough, but i think what ngsawg was saying is that there isn't really a superior orgasm across the board. I know that I've been with girls who get almost nothing from gspot unless it's accompanied by clit and one even that only got off from gspot. I guess i really don't know anything about this deep spot, guess i'll have to look into it...
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Old 03-14-2006, 11:16 AM   #14 (permalink)
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I don't believe there is a "superior" way for sex once you've gotten past the basics- Every man and woman is different and so we react more strongly (or less strongly) to stimulation on certain parts of our bodies- so there's no "one way" to go about it. But all the basic biology is the same. If doing X technique or giving attention to a certain area is not so great, just continue exploring the rest of his/her body. Experiment, you could try Y technique there that you heard/read about or do something unique or familiar. learning of new places that can be stimulated, or learning different ways of stimulating those places can expand the realm of sexual possibilities with your partner, or just make it more fun.

As for the orgasm thing, a deep spot orgasm is just different than, say a clit orgasm. Whether is it stronger, weaker, more enjoyable, or even can be achieved is all dependant on the biology(and personality?) of the woman.and i don't think a man with an average penis would have any difficulty hitting it, as it can be reached with the tips of your fingers.


I've been thinking about this thread though. It's not really a typical thread, the central issue is ambiguous and fairly all-encompassing, and it's not about choosing a position and defending a belief. It's just a sharing of knowledge about sex and sensuality. Once again i'd like anyone reading this thread to share their knowledge, although discussion of the stuff already in here is perfectly fine as well.

*if anyone knows about Tantra, i'd love to hear about it, as my knowledge on that area is fairly sketchy.
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Old 03-14-2006, 02:06 PM   #15 (permalink)
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Tantric sex is a little different than Tantra.
'tantric sex' is more of an umbrella term for wild stuff to do with your SO.
Tantra is a more general term for the physical ways a person can manipulate thier own body for specific results. For instance, preserving your kundalini through meditation. (Known as tantric celebacy) It is also possible to achieve higher states of awareness through this and other methods. The association with sex comes in when you realize that some of the methods for manipulating the body are best achived through the participation of a partner.
Yoga is an offshoot/predecessor of tantra, btw.
...and for anyone that is looking for some variety, check out "Screw the Roses, Send Me the Thorns" by Miller and Devon. (Explores the spectrum of BDSM relationships.)
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