12-08-2003, 09:46 AM | #41 (permalink) |
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Gotta love the smoking gun.
http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/rushsearch5.html This kind of wacky crap is one of the reasons Rush is being investigated so thoroughly. This doctor Deziel prescribes Rush 4-6 prescriptions a month from this page alone. Almost 500 pills of Norco a month. Good for the prosecutors siezing these documents. It is important to get enabling doctors locked up in jail. Like these guys who are looking to make some fast cash off of weak people like Rush. |
12-08-2003, 12:11 PM | #42 (permalink) | |
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Did I say you were "left" NO, ad nauseum. You are decidedly anti-Rush so you fall into the so named category. By your posts, it's clear that you are most certainly more liberal than center, so why is it you take offense at the term liberal? Did I group lurkette in there? Nope. Where are the groups who are against mandatory minimums for drug possession? How about those who advocate treatment versus punishment? If they were SO committed to it, why aren't they speaking about Rush's case? I have yet to hear a single As far as your google search, they are not appropriate to this case in relation to charges against Limbaugh. Perhaps they are appropriate if the target of the investigation is the prescriber but not in the case of use by Limbaugh.
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12-08-2003, 12:16 PM | #43 (permalink) | |
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12-08-2003, 12:29 PM | #44 (permalink) | |
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12-13-2003, 05:54 PM | #45 (permalink) |
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Hmmm. I am normally against anything that has a shadow of a hint of a shade of an iota of an inkling of a whiff of police powers about it. When I next hear a politician say "tough on crime" and see that they mean all crime, not just crime by lower and middle class people, that could change.
However, for the full force of the law and then some to descend upon a man who has consistently called for more police powers and harsher penalties to be applied to just those practices in which he admits to being engaged, how can that be anything but justice? Oh, and I used to listen to his show three days a week between All Things Considered and Pacifica. I have determined that Rush Limbaugh is every bit as relevant a political commentator as Cheech and Chong were in their time, which is to say, as a political thinker, he's a fair entertainer. Edit: Strange, I didn't consciously pick Cheech and Chong for their drug use. Martin and Lewis or Rowan and Martin or even Tiny Tim would have worked as well.
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12-14-2003, 12:32 AM | #46 (permalink) |
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I can't belive I'm supporting rush either, but tho me the point is that these were prescription drugs. I feel bad for him that he was in engought pain to require them. I have a freind who is a preofessional athlete and it's unbeliveable to me how much pain he is in daily. I wish Rush the best.
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12-14-2003, 04:03 PM | #47 (permalink) | |
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12-16-2003, 10:07 AM | #49 (permalink) | |
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01-05-2004, 06:52 AM | #50 (permalink) |
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According to a New York Daily News article with regard to the prosecutors going after Rush Limbaugh... "The Palm Beach Post review found only one case in which the county filed charges of illegally acquiring overlapping prescriptions, but the defendant died before trial." While there is still the possibility that this investigation isn't politically motivated, it has smelled from the beginning as being outside the norm and this only strengthens my belief. http://www.nydailynews.com/01-04-200...p-133587c.html
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01-05-2004, 02:32 PM | #52 (permalink) | |
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01-05-2004, 03:05 PM | #53 (permalink) | |
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01-05-2004, 03:06 PM | #54 (permalink) |
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Using public resources to prosecute drug users who are not committing crimes or harming anyone else in service of their drug use is a complete waste of tax dollars, and it could happen any one of us.
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01-05-2004, 03:06 PM | #55 (permalink) | |
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As long as conservatives continue to try to marginalize liberals by calling them communists, I'll marginalize them by calling them mean spirited right-wingers (hey, it's better than traitors).
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01-05-2004, 03:09 PM | #56 (permalink) | |
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01-05-2004, 03:16 PM | #57 (permalink) | |
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Seriously, the war on drugs is a complete failure, but no politician with any amount of ambition will touch the issue bc it's tantamount to throwing oneself on a grenade in the political world: they'd be doing all of us a big favor, but they can kiss their political career goodbye.
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01-06-2004, 05:58 AM | #58 (permalink) | |
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Oh please. It's different, not completely different but still different. Rush Limbaugh is an entertainer he is not an elected official. An elected official who is sworn to uphold the Constitution AND one that is supposed to be a court officer should not be committing perjury. It wasn't about sex, it wasn't about lying, it was about PERJURY. People claim that Nixon's crime was covering up the crime. It's the same as with Clinton. I could care less if he screwed the poodle in the Lincoln bedroom. It doesn't matter. When he then lies about it in court, under oath, it becomes a crime. Was the Clinton investigation politically motivated? Of course. Should it have been investigated? Absolutely. The President committing crimes is different than the average citizen (or even a celebrity pseudo-journalist like Rush) committing them. Rush whining about being singled out is a joke, just as Clinton whining about it is. They each chose careers that could make them targets, they each understood that. The difference is, the President has more of a responsibility to the people as a leader than some self righteous radio "personality".
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01-06-2004, 06:44 AM | #59 (permalink) |
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The comparison to Clinton does ring true, in a way. Should Clinton have been asked about his personal life at the grand jury hearing? Without a doubt, no. Should DAs be investigating into someone's personal drug use? No. If you are socially liberal (ack, scary word, SCARY WORD!!), then odds are you agree with me.
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01-06-2004, 08:39 AM | #60 (permalink) | |
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Clinton should have never been asked that question and even though he was he should have had no obligation to answer it. That was an issue between him and his wife not the government. Now your saying that we should have double standards? I just want to make sure i get your side correctly. We should have double standards when prosicuting crimes? |
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01-06-2004, 10:50 AM | #62 (permalink) | |
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WE SHOULD HOLD OUR LEADERS TO HIGHER STANDARDS THAN WE HOLD OTHERS. THOSE WHO SWEAR TO UPHOLD THE CONSTITUTION SHOULD BE EXPECTED TO ABIDE BY THE LAWS SET FORTH UNDER IT. Clinton lied under oath in a sexual harrasment case. The question was not out of bounds. If it were, obviously the judge would not have allowed it. If you think he shouldn't have been obligated to answer it, as someone else recently posted, write your congressman and change the laws.
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01-06-2004, 10:58 AM | #63 (permalink) | |
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''the British government has learned that Saddam Hussein recently sought significant quantities of uranium from Africa.''
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01-06-2004, 11:17 AM | #64 (permalink) | |
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01-06-2004, 11:30 AM | #65 (permalink) | |
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01-06-2004, 11:44 AM | #66 (permalink) | |
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01-06-2004, 11:54 AM | #67 (permalink) | |
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01-06-2004, 11:58 AM | #68 (permalink) |
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please both of you go back and read onetime2's post. With the exception of the part about the president sleeping with poodles, it was dead on.
One is holding political office, one is not. One individuals character is of national interest to us, the other is not, etc etc etc. And this assuming they had done the same thing. I like Rush, but I would have lost total respect for him, had he been getting BJ's by a early 20something intern behind Marta's back. This scenario is a fuck of a lot more telling about one's character (and to reiterate, an entertainer's character is neither here nor there as far as the rest of us are concerned, but the presidents....) than one who has had back back pain for years, develops a tolerance, and becomes addicted. And the orignal posters suggestion that this is a "designer drug", might have been more on target had the motivating factor been hedonism (as was Clinton's, without regard to his wife, the intern, or the country). He was not found in possession of 100's and 100's of pills (as some have suggested he is being come down on as a dealer) - the mother fucker was never found in possession at one time of this quantity of that. That's like telling your average college kid that you have evidence he's bought 100 1/8's of weed over the last 4 years, so your going to try him as a dealer because of the quantity involved. You're hypocrisy's really are stunning. |
01-06-2004, 12:04 PM | #69 (permalink) |
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......how many people died in that aspirin factory Sparhawk? Contrary to what Clinton would have you believe character does mean something, and if one of the two presidents had gone on a bombing spree for personal gain - who's proven character would you guess would be more likely to do such a thing?
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01-06-2004, 12:12 PM | #70 (permalink) |
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I commend you, matthew330, for supporting Rush Limbaugh through this difficult time. However, I suspect your qualifyer "I would have lost total respect for him, had he been getting BJ's by a[sic] earl 20something intern behind Marta's back" is designed to give you cover to support those you are in favor of politically.
Let's do the BJ Litmus test, shall we? What do these five politicians have in common: Bill Clinton Newt Gingrich Bob Livingstone Strom Thurmond Henry Hyde Somehow I doubt your lack of conviction in despising those who cheat on their wives, when they wear an elephant pin on their lapel.
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01-06-2004, 12:12 PM | #71 (permalink) | |
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It's terrible that 486 people lost their lives in Iraq but their deaths helped to give millions a chance at a better future. Their sacrifices may help to stabilize the Middle East. Now, I'm sure you will claim that it has done nothing but destabilize the region and create a thousand other Bin Laden's but only the future will determine who is right.
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01-06-2004, 12:19 PM | #72 (permalink) |
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I agree 100% that cheating on your wife is a failure of character, matthew330, and while I wish that our politicians were angels, it is pointed out all too often that they are not.
Also, you really don't want to start up a debate on wars or military operations for personal gain - save it for another thread.
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01-06-2004, 12:21 PM | #73 (permalink) | |
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01-06-2004, 12:38 PM | #75 (permalink) |
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No no no, matthew330, it's my BJ Litmus Test.
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01-06-2004, 01:01 PM | #79 (permalink) |
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getting a blow job is worse than being a drug addict? We better rewrite our laws to match your premise. Did you know that George Washington along with many other expresidents screwed his slaves? JFK had an affair with Maralyin Monroe....
People shouldn't complain about being prosicuted for a crime unless they are arguing directly against it being a crime. Is Rush arguing that doctor shopping is not illegial or shouldn't be? No he is saying he shouldn't be prosicuted even though the law is valid.... Be careful of encuraging double standards they already exist enough the last thing we want to do is segregate the nation even more. To argue that prosicuters are holding Rush to a double standard because he is a well known politition but then say it was ok for prosicuters to do the same thing to the president you are being hypocritical. |
01-06-2004, 01:31 PM | #80 (permalink) | |
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So you can argue that there is nothing wrong with getting a BJ in the oval office while talking to people on the phone, and thats fine, but thats not the issue.
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