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dankitti · 05-06-2003, 11:56 AM

from this week's Entertainment Weekly:
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''Anyone can sit down and write some boring artistic song,'' says Britney Spears. ''Pop music is the hardest s--- to write.''</blockquote>

i have NO idea what she means by that. is she debating the merits of sitting down to write a boring artistic song vs. standing up to write a (hopefully not boring) artistic song? or is she just inviting everyone to write a boring artistic song? um, while sitting down. if pop music is the hardest s--- to write, maybe that explains why there are so many really bad pop songs. written while sitting down. OTOH there is that barry manilow song that starts out with that classical piece, which is kind of artistic because it is based on classical music. but barry manilow is such a manly man that me probably stood up to write his boring artistic song.

anyway, i dunno how britney feels about non-boring artistic songs.

Cynthetiq · 05-06-2003, 12:31 PM

maybe it's because she's thinking now that she's no longer blonde...

and how there are 12 writers on JLo's Jenny from the block.. I'll never understand because there's like what 15 words in the whole song?

warrrreagl · 05-06-2003, 12:35 PM

OMGLMFAO!!!!!!

neoinoakleys · 05-06-2003, 12:38 PM

Britney... Hot Piece of A**

Dumb as a pet rock...nuff said...

Magpie0001 · 05-09-2003, 08:13 AM

What? what, what what??

CSflim · 05-09-2003, 01:45 PM

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Originally posted by dankitti
''Anyone can sit down and write some boring artistic song,'' says Britney Spears. ''Pop music is the hardest "stuff" to write.''

BWhahahahaha!!! This is about the funniest thing I've read in a LONG time! Thank you so much for posting it. What a fucking retarded brain dead blonde bimbo.

wakelagger · 05-09-2003, 02:23 PM

/strikes Valley Girl Pose
"Pshaawww, like, like, me and my writers and composers find it, like really hard to write songs that I take credit for, like yeah, like totally."

vermin · 05-09-2003, 07:48 PM

I find it difficult to believe that she knows how to write.

dankitti · 05-11-2003, 05:59 AM

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Originally posted by CSflim
BWhahahahaha!!! This is about the funniest thing I've read in a LONG time! Thank you so much for posting it. What a fucking retarded brain dead blonde bimbo.

actually, in the photo she is a brunette. it did not seem to make her any smarter, though.

sixate · 05-11-2003, 06:51 AM

What a dumb bitch. I don't even think she writes her songs and it's not because it's hard. It's because she fucking brain dead. She has no talent. She a smokin hot piece of ass that every guy wants to fuck! She has zero musical talent. She couldn't plant any instrument to save her life. What a stupid ass.

BulletBob · 05-12-2003, 03:41 PM

If you think about it though pop music IS hard to write when you consider how many songs are wrote with the goal of being popular. Not to side with her or anything because the comment is pretty stupid but she does have a point. Although I'm not sure why she's so worried about writing songs since I doubt she wrote any of her own music.

dankitti · 05-13-2003, 03:43 PM

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Originally posted by BulletBob
If you think about it though pop music IS hard to write when you consider how many songs are wrote with the goal of being popular. Not to side with her or anything because the comment is pretty stupid but she does have a point. Although I'm not sure why she's so worried about writing songs since I doubt she wrote any of her own music.

i went to the All Music Guide and i clicked on an album called Britney, most likely so called because she was still a blonde and they wanted to pick a name she would remember. surprisingly, she is listed as co-writer on five of the twelve songs. one of these songs was written by as many as four songwriters! so what she says is true, that IS the hardest s--- to write!

gibber71 · 05-14-2003, 11:37 AM

I think pop music is the hardest shit to write since any originality whatsoever is a misnomer. Even more difficult is listening to pop music,either sitting or standing especially with bubblegum stuck in your ears.

Magpie0001 · 05-15-2003, 01:25 AM

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Originally posted by Magpie0001
What? what, what what??

I sympathise with little Brit, I too find sitting down rather taxing.

Snoogans · 05-15-2003, 03:45 AM

Holy shit. How can one person be so fuckin' stupid? Every time I read something she said a small part of my brain commits suicide.

SecretMethod70 · 05-15-2003, 06:32 AM

Good God.

I nearly had a seizure after reading that. And I'm not even joking. My jaw dropped, eyes widened, I threw my hands in the air, lost control of them and started shaking them, and finally screamed "WHAT?!"

My heart pounded out of shock at the sheer stupidity of that statement as I digested it, reading the rest of this thread.

I'm still full of raw emotion from reading it in fact.

That has got to be the dumbest, most insulting statement pertaining to music that I have ever read in my entire life.

You want to know why she perceives pop music as being so hard to write? I'll tell you why. It's because there is no creativity involved in it. Zero. Zilch. Nada. And I'm serious when I say that's hard to write, because it really is difficult to come up with something new that sounds just like everything else.

HOWEVER, she obviously (and, what a shocker here) has never written any "artistic" music and certainly hasn't written any successful "artistic" music. Creation is much harder than imitation. In fact, it's possible to be creatively imitative - it was done for centuries in music, especially during the middle ages.

If/when I listen to Britney Spears I hear a voice that reminds me of a hot girl whom I wouldn't mind seeing naked and I hear catchy beats that are just like every other pop song that do little more than provide a nice background to other things I happen to be doing. I feel little more emotion from the music beyond the general catchiness of the beat.

When I listen to "boring artistic" music such as Dvorak, or Chopin, or Beethoven, I feel EMOTION. I can be calmed and suddenly jarred to life at the will of the composer through "boring artistic" music.

I'd like to see Britney Spears even ATTEMPT to do that.

Magpie0001 · 05-16-2003, 08:27 AM

SecretMethod70, THank you, that was a great post.

Reese · 05-16-2003, 09:16 AM

Wait a minute... Britney knows what Artistic means?

dankitti · 05-17-2003, 07:28 AM

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Originally posted by SecretMethod70

You want to know why she perceives pop music as being so hard to write? I'll tell you why. It's because there is no creativity involved in it. Zero. Zilch. Nada. And I'm serious when I say that's hard to write, because it really is difficult to come up with something new that sounds just like everything else.
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When I listen to "boring artistic" music such as Dvorak, or Chopin, or Beethoven, I feel EMOTION. I can be calmed and suddenly jarred to life at the will of the composer through "boring artistic" music.

I'd like to see Britney Spears even ATTEMPT to do that.

of course there IS good pop music if you remember the beatles and that seargent pepper album. you KNOW britney could not attempt something like that! she couldn't write something like that, or even sing something like that. it's sort of like people who would NOT be interested in gourmet foods if you served it to them & they would rather you take it away & give them a cheeseburger. anyway, i have lots of "artistic" progressive rock and jazz, and i have philip glass CDs & NO britney in my music collection.

oh, and i think people like Pet Sounds by the beach boys, some really good pop music. that is not something britney should attempt!

CSflim · 05-17-2003, 09:02 AM

I just recently picked up Spears's 12th Symphony in D minor. Incredibly moving piece of work.

LewisCouch · 05-18-2003, 08:29 AM

/s
I believe the hugely talented and heavily marketed Britney summed it up very nicely. Pop music is "shit."
/s

Melwas · 05-18-2003, 09:57 AM

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Originally posted by cybermike
Wait a minute... Britney knows what Artistic means?

lmao! one of the funniest comments yet

I remember having to write a baroque piece in school (15th century poo).... ooo, i never want to go through that again but it sounded good in the end.

dankitti · 05-20-2003, 12:54 PM

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Originally posted by CSflim
I just recently picked up Spears's 12th Symphony in D minor. Incredibly moving piece of work.

but did she sit down to write it?

yeah! d minor!
/spongebob squarepants

arael · 05-20-2003, 04:48 PM

damn airhead...

DelayedReaction · 05-21-2003, 09:39 AM

Five bucks says she confused artistic with autistic.

Seriously though, pop music is pretty hard to write. Do you have any idea how difficult it is to rehash the same beats over and over again, and come out with something that doesn't sound like every other song before it?

Not easy.

dankitti · 05-21-2003, 03:14 PM

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Originally posted by DelayedReaction
Five bucks says she confused artistic with autistic.

Seriously though, pop music is pretty hard to write. Do you have any idea how difficult it is to rehash the same beats over and over again, and come out with something that doesn't sound like every other song before it?

Not easy.

is that actually done anymore? the part about not sounding like every song before. it's gotten to where "pop music" is made by dancers. not even good dancing. they just sort of hop around like a bunch of demented frogs to the sampled beats of the recycled hit from the new toyota commercial. um, so hard to write they don't even bother anymore.

fuzzix · 05-22-2003, 05:33 AM

Britney's quote just made my IRC quit message! :P

It's far more disturbing than funny though.

Derwood · 05-22-2003, 06:00 AM

Truth be told, many "pop" songs actually aren't badly written, just poorly produced. When you hear a rock group cover a pop song (ie Fountains of Wayne covering "Baby, one more time") you can see some of the merits of the songwriting. Problem is, that decent songs are ruined by shoddy producers whose musical talent lies solely in knowing how to use Pro Tools.

And btw, Sgt. Pepper may be considered "pop" now, but it certainly wasn't when it came out.

I think what Britney is trying to say is that ANYONE can write "OK Computer" or "Yoshimi Battles the Pink Robots", but a song like "Lucky" comes around once in a lifetime....

dankitti · 05-22-2003, 07:32 AM

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Originally posted by Derwood
Truth be told, many "pop" songs actually aren't badly written, just poorly produced. When you hear a rock group cover a pop song (ie Fountains of Wayne covering "Baby, one more time") you can see some of the merits of the songwriting. Problem is, that decent songs are ruined by shoddy producers whose musical talent lies solely in knowing how to use Pro Tools.

And btw, Sgt. Pepper may be considered "pop" now, but it certainly wasn't when it came out.

I think what Britney is trying to say is that ANYONE can write "OK Computer" or "Yoshimi Battles the Pink Robots", but a song like "Lucky" comes around once in a lifetime....

1. of course some producers DO know how to use Pro Tools. trent reznor. there ARE (were?) really good pop songwriters. todd rundgren, brian wilson, etc.

2. it is easy to forget thingies like that, Sgt. Pepper was not considered pop, but there are artistic songs on it, and maybe they were sitting down.

3. yeah, imagine trying to write another song like the Spice Girls did. i really really really wanna zig-ah-zig-ah. they do NOT write 'em like that anymore!

Derwood · 05-22-2003, 06:16 PM

You picked an extreme example with that Spice Girls song, though I could argue that in the right artist's hands, a Spice Girls song like "Goodbye" would be quite beautiful. Same with "I am Beautiful" by Christina Aguilera

h2ogo69 · 05-22-2003, 07:45 PM

and how the fuck would she know if she doesnt even write her own music.

dankitti · 05-23-2003, 01:16 PM

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Originally posted by h2ogo69
and how the fuck would she know if she doesnt even write her own music.

um, actually she DOES, if you remember a previous post of mine in this thread. scroll up if you forget. not that the songwriting is altogether impressive.

Doc_34465 · 05-23-2003, 05:22 PM

WTF! She must have been stoned when she said that.. Even she can't believe that drible..

05-06-2003, 11:56 AM	#1 (permalink)
dankitti Crazy	britney and boring artistic songs from this week's Entertainment Weekly: <blockquote> ''Anyone can sit down and write some boring artistic song,'' says Britney Spears. ''Pop music is the hardest s--- to write.''</blockquote> i have NO idea what she means by that. is she debating the merits of sitting down to write a boring artistic song vs. standing up to write a (hopefully not boring) artistic song? or is she just inviting everyone to write a boring artistic song? um, while sitting down. if pop music is the hardest s--- to write, maybe that explains why there are so many really bad pop songs. written while sitting down. OTOH there is that barry manilow song that starts out with that classical piece, which is kind of artistic because it is based on classical music. but barry manilow is such a manly man that me probably stood up to write his boring artistic song. anyway, i dunno how britney feels about non-boring artistic songs. __________________ Aw' little girl, there ain't no time To wash yer stinky hand Go 'head 'n' roll over I'm goin' in you again In you again In you again In you again... --Frank appa I Have Been In Yo

05-06-2003, 12:31 PM	#2 (permalink)
Cynthetiq Tilted Cat Head Administrator Location: Manhattan, NY	maybe it's because she's thinking now that she's no longer blonde... and how there are 12 writers on JLo's Jenny from the block.. I'll never understand because there's like what 15 words in the whole song? __________________ I don't care if you are black, white, purple, green, Chinese, Japanese, Korean, hippie, cop, bum, admin, user, English, Irish, French, Catholic, Protestant, Jewish, Buddhist, Muslim, indian, cowboy, tall, short, fat, skinny, emo, punk, mod, rocker, straight, gay, lesbian, jock, nerd, geek, Democrat, Republican, Libertarian, Independent, driver, pedestrian, or bicyclist, either you're an asshole or you're not. What's the best nation in the world? DO-NATION!

05-06-2003, 12:35 PM	#3 (permalink)
warrrreagl pinche vato Location: backwater, Third World, land of cotton	OMGLMFAO!!!!!! __________________ Living is easy with eyes closed.

05-06-2003, 12:38 PM	#4 (permalink)
neoinoakleys Psycho Location: Michigan	Britney... Hot Piece of A** Dumb as a pet rock...nuff said... __________________ It's My Duty to Please That Booty!!

05-09-2003, 08:13 AM	#5 (permalink)
Magpie0001 Nobody Loves Me Location: Irish In Madrid	What? what, what what?? __________________ Music is my first love & It will be my last.

05-09-2003, 02:23 PM	#7 (permalink)
wakelagger Insane Location: Toronto	/strikes Valley Girl Pose "Pshaawww, like, like, me and my writers and composers find it, like really hard to write songs that I take credit for, like yeah, like totally."

05-09-2003, 07:48 PM	#8 (permalink)
vermin Indifferent to anti-matter Location: Tucson, AZ	I find it difficult to believe that she knows how to write. __________________ If puns were sausages, this would be the wurst.

05-11-2003, 06:51 AM	#10 (permalink)
sixate Registered User Location: Somewhere in Ohio	What a dumb bitch. I don't even think she writes her songs and it's not because it's hard. It's because she fucking brain dead. She has no talent. She a smokin hot piece of ass that every guy wants to fuck! She has zero musical talent. She couldn't plant any instrument to save her life. What a stupid ass.

05-12-2003, 03:41 PM	#11 (permalink)
BulletBob Psycho Location: Rupp Arena	If you think about it though pop music IS hard to write when you consider how many songs are wrote with the goal of being popular. Not to side with her or anything because the comment is pretty stupid but she does have a point. Although I'm not sure why she's so worried about writing songs since I doubt she wrote any of her own music.

05-14-2003, 11:37 AM	#13 (permalink)
gibber71 Loser	I think pop music is the hardest shit to write since any originality whatsoever is a misnomer. Even more difficult is listening to pop music,either sitting or standing especially with bubblegum stuck in your ears.

05-15-2003, 03:45 AM	#15 (permalink)
Snoogans Veteran Location: Uppsala, Sweden	Holy shit. How can one person be so fuckin' stupid? Every time I read something she said a small part of my brain commits suicide. __________________ Internet hint: If someone's asking if what they do is weird, it always is.

05-15-2003, 06:32 AM	#16 (permalink)
SecretMethod70 Human Administrator Location: Chicago	Good God. I nearly had a seizure after reading that. And I'm not even joking. My jaw dropped, eyes widened, I threw my hands in the air, lost control of them and started shaking them, and finally screamed "WHAT?!" My heart pounded out of shock at the sheer stupidity of that statement as I digested it, reading the rest of this thread. I'm still full of raw emotion from reading it in fact. That has got to be the dumbest, most insulting statement pertaining to music that I have ever read in my entire life. You want to know why she perceives pop music as being so hard to write? I'll tell you why. It's because there is no creativity involved in it. Zero. Zilch. Nada. And I'm serious when I say that's hard to write, because it really is difficult to come up with something new that sounds just like everything else. HOWEVER, she obviously (and, what a shocker here) has never written any "artistic" music and certainly hasn't written any successful "artistic" music. Creation is much harder than imitation. In fact, it's possible to be creatively imitative - it was done for centuries in music, especially during the middle ages. If/when I listen to Britney Spears I hear a voice that reminds me of a hot girl whom I wouldn't mind seeing naked and I hear catchy beats that are just like every other pop song that do little more than provide a nice background to other things I happen to be doing. I feel little more emotion from the music beyond the general catchiness of the beat. When I listen to "boring artistic" music such as Dvorak, or Chopin, or Beethoven, I feel EMOTION. I can be calmed and suddenly jarred to life at the will of the composer through "boring artistic" music. I'd like to see Britney Spears even ATTEMPT to do that. __________________ Le temps détruit tout "Musicians are the carriers and communicators of spirit in the most immediate sense." - Kurt Elling

05-16-2003, 08:27 AM	#17 (permalink)
Magpie0001 Nobody Loves Me Location: Irish In Madrid	SecretMethod70, THank you, that was a great post. __________________ Music is my first love & It will be my last.

05-16-2003, 09:16 AM	#18 (permalink)
Reese Delicious	Wait a minute... Britney knows what Artistic means? __________________ “It is better to be rich and healthy than poor and sick” - Dave Barry

05-17-2003, 09:02 AM	#20 (permalink)
CSflim Sky Piercer Location: Ireland	I just recently picked up Spears's 12th Symphony in D minor. Incredibly moving piece of work. __________________

05-20-2003, 04:48 PM	#24 (permalink)
arael Banned	damn airhead...

05-18-2003, 08:29 AM	#21 (permalink)
LewisCouch Insane Location: Pacific NW	/s I believe the hugely talented and heavily marketed Britney summed it up very nicely. Pop music is "shit." /s __________________ "The gift of liberty is like that of a horse, handsome, strong, and high-spirited. In some it arouses a wish to ride; in many others, on the contrary, it increases the desire to walk." -- Massimo d'Azeglio

05-21-2003, 09:39 AM	#25 (permalink)
DelayedReaction BFG Builder Location: University of Maryland	Five bucks says she confused artistic with autistic. Seriously though, pop music is pretty hard to write. Do you have any idea how difficult it is to rehash the same beats over and over again, and come out with something that doesn't sound like every other song before it? Not easy. __________________ If ignorance is bliss, you must be having an orgasm.

05-22-2003, 05:33 AM	#27 (permalink)
fuzzix Psycho Location: Australia	Britney's quote just made my IRC quit message! :P It's far more disturbing than funny though. __________________ I'm most definately not 'lovin' it'.

05-22-2003, 06:00 AM	#28 (permalink)
Derwood Who You Crappin? Location: Everywhere and Nowhere	Truth be told, many "pop" songs actually aren't badly written, just poorly produced. When you hear a rock group cover a pop song (ie Fountains of Wayne covering "Baby, one more time") you can see some of the merits of the songwriting. Problem is, that decent songs are ruined by shoddy producers whose musical talent lies solely in knowing how to use Pro Tools. And btw, Sgt. Pepper may be considered "pop" now, but it certainly wasn't when it came out. I think what Britney is trying to say is that ANYONE can write "OK Computer" or "Yoshimi Battles the Pink Robots", but a song like "Lucky" comes around once in a lifetime.... __________________ "You can't shoot a country until it becomes a democracy." - Willravel

05-22-2003, 06:16 PM	#30 (permalink)
Derwood Who You Crappin? Location: Everywhere and Nowhere	You picked an extreme example with that Spice Girls song, though I could argue that in the right artist's hands, a Spice Girls song like "Goodbye" would be quite beautiful. Same with "I am Beautiful" by Christina Aguilera __________________ "You can't shoot a country until it becomes a democracy." - Willravel

05-22-2003, 07:45 PM	#31 (permalink)
h2ogo69 Banned	and how the fuck would she know if she doesnt even write her own music.

05-23-2003, 05:22 PM	#33 (permalink)
Doc_34465 Psycho Location: Inverness, Fl.	WTF! She must have been stoned when she said that.. Even she can't believe that drible.. __________________ "Badgers?!? We don't need no stinking Badgers!!" "Now.. The mushrooms? Yeah, I'll have some more!" Does he have a name? Can I name him Dancey Mcgee? Spinach_Indeed