So Van Halen or Van Hagar? - Tilted Forum Project Discussion Community

K-Wise · 09-14-2003, 07:42 PM

We all know they were both great but which one did you like the band better with? I know with David the playing was faster and a little bit better and he was one hell of a showman, but I don't really care much for his voice or his songs for that matter. At least not what I heard at my young age I don't think he has a really great voice. I think Sammy has a fantastic voice and wrote much more beautiful songs. I believe it is noted that they had more hits and sold more records with him too. Also he made great solo records as well while we all know David didn't. Kinda would be a preference eh? Cause they were both so great and such a big asset to the band it would be impossible to argue over whether one was better or not when they were with the band so really it'd have to be who you liked more. I think I'm probably going to be the only one to pick.......my man......Sammy Hagar.

Dudes just awesome and he was a pretty niffty little guitar player too.

Sammy!

Asta!!

coke babies · 09-14-2003, 08:39 PM

I thought they were a lot more fun with Roth. Hagar was decent, but I wouldn't listem to them unless they happened to be on the radio.

perripken · 09-15-2003, 05:16 AM

I liked David Lee Roth as the frontman, but not solo, and I like Sammy solo and not as a frontman.

Thraeryn · 09-15-2003, 05:31 AM

I like both of them solo. "I Can't Drive 55" is one of my favorite songs. However, as far as their time in Van Halen, I've gotta vote for Diamond Dave. They rocked a lot harder then, and Roth was funnier than Hagar. The music was more about good times than anything else.

rogue49 · 09-15-2003, 05:36 AM

Van Halen, all the way.
There was an edge, astounding creativity to their music back then.

lions20 · 09-15-2003, 05:56 AM

David Lee Roth had many more hits with Van Halen than Sammy Hagar did.

DiffEng · 09-15-2003, 07:22 AM

I liked the fun loving attitude of Roth-era Van Halen, but I'm going to go with Hagar. I think the songs were just better.

Do I dare stir it up and admit to liking the Cary Cherone era Van Halen?

Gortexfogg · 09-15-2003, 07:26 AM

Sammy is cool and stuff.... but David Lee Roth is the man. His voice and Eddie Van Halen's guitar were an awesome combination.

Jdoe · 09-15-2003, 07:27 AM

No question for me, I'm definitely a Roth man.

Jdoe

weasel2112 · 09-15-2003, 07:30 AM

Sorry yall but Sammy Rocks. David was good in the day but Sammy is still the "Red Rocker"

90degree · 09-15-2003, 10:57 AM

Diamond Dave... ... he seems pretty strange nowadays though.. hehe.

JohnnyRock · 09-15-2003, 11:26 AM

Gotta say it is close...I liked both for their own reasons and always been a fan of the Red Rocker...but while Sammy is Sammy...Roth is still Van Halen

Redlemon · 09-15-2003, 11:42 AM

I liked Dave 'cause he had a sense of humor, and knew that it was all in fun. Sammy had no sense of humor, as far as I could tell. Gary, well, Gary just didn't fit, although Extreme's "Pornografitti" album was amazing.

God of Thunder · 09-15-2003, 11:53 AM

I'm going to give the Grandma answer and say that I like them both equally.

I was always dissapointed, however, that Sammy was never allowed to do more guitar work with Van Halen. He did on stage, but not on the VH songs. Eddies ego got in the way and they never explored the possibilities of a two-guitar band.

DiffEng · 09-15-2003, 01:23 PM

Van Halen with duelling guitars would have been amazing! I can't knock anything they've done, but having two lead players and only using one just seems like a waste of talent.

hawkeye · 09-15-2003, 11:02 PM

I like VH more for their music, esp. guitar work, than Vocals. So, I'm not too particular about who exactly is singing. I like sammy better as a solo artist, and he seems to be a genuinely friendly guy, as apposed to DLR's Assaholism.

student · 09-16-2003, 03:51 AM

van halen is all about guitar. the roth era stuff was better in terms of guitar work. i really do not like sammy's voice, and dave was not really a talented singer, but he seemed to fit with the style they played. as far as the two leads....eddie is awesome because he plays rhythm and lead at what seems to be the time. he'll be playing the rhythm and all of the sudden you hear harmonics and a some blistering riff and then a dive bomb and he playing rhythm again....another player would have just made it muddy sounding

perripken · 09-16-2003, 04:44 AM

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Originally posted by redlemon
I liked Dave 'cause he had a sense of humor, and knew that it was all in fun. Sammy had no sense of humor, as far as I could tell. Gary, well, Gary just didn't fit, although Extreme's "Pornografitti" album was amazing.

Gary and Nuno should have kept Extreme together!
Man I miss that band!

castex · 09-16-2003, 08:48 AM

Ah yes, Extreme.
The ladies loved it when we gave them a drunken taste of the harmonies on 'more than words' one new year's eve...

As a frontman, I've heard Sammy makes a wicked tequila.

b1gj0n · 09-16-2003, 10:26 AM

Van Roth... But since he wasn't a choice i'd have to say Van Hagar.

frankx · 09-16-2003, 02:01 PM

Van Halen with DLR. Never cared much for Sammy.

holtmate · 09-18-2003, 08:29 AM

I always liked the songe with Sammy more. Dave was all right, but he was a raging dick, and Sammy's got the tequila, too!

Kaos · 09-18-2003, 05:24 PM

With Roth, it was party and sex music...With Hagar, it turned into a love fest.

Diamond Dave forever.

krwlz · 09-18-2003, 07:24 PM

Like both, but a voice is irreplacable.... It just wasnt right after Roth left...

SecretMethod70 · 09-18-2003, 07:55 PM

Definitely Sammy. He's a WAY better singer and helped write much better songs too. Not to mention he's a nice guy. I saw him in concert one time in a fairly small venue and he took a break from playing when they needed to change stuff around or something and taught everyone how to make Cabo Wabo's on stage and then passed some around to the front row

He's just Cool(tm). Roth is a jerk (but, yes, he's more funny).

shred_head · 09-18-2003, 11:17 PM

I think its a little challenging for me to pick one. Roth-era songs are more just fun rock and roll driven whereas Hagar-era songs do tend to revolve around the love theme. But there were still some kick ass songs from the Hagar period (Poundcake, Top of the World, Humans Being). I'll have to go with Roth, you just can't beat him.

And Roth's solo album "Eat 'em and Smile" kicks ass. "Skyscraper" is ok but isn't that great.

Fly · 09-19-2003, 03:38 AM

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Originally posted by perripken
I liked David Lee Roth as the frontman, but not solo, and I like Sammy solo and not as a frontman.

yup....sign me up for this answer as well.

Van Halen died when roth left.

Sammy died when he joined van halen.

i'm glad sammy is solo again.....time for some more kickass tunes from him.

h2ogo69 · 09-20-2003, 07:10 AM

VAN HALEN .... i fucking hate van hagar

Derwood · 09-21-2003, 04:28 AM

Van Neither

Cardinal Syn · 09-21-2003, 05:58 AM

David Lee Roth gave them charisma. I cant stand hagar. But i did enjoy some songs from him. But not as much as VAN HALEN!

krwlz · 09-21-2003, 04:50 PM

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Originally posted by SecretMethod70
Roth is a jerk (but, yes, he's more funny).

Lets face it... Roth, and Eddie (and sammy as well to some extent) were all egomaniacs...

Which is why they broke up.

09-14-2003, 07:42 PM	#1 (permalink)
K-Wise It's All About The Ass!! Location: In a pool of mayonnaise!!	So Van Halen or Van Hagar? We all know they were both great but which one did you like the band better with? I know with David the playing was faster and a little bit better and he was one hell of a showman, but I don't really care much for his voice or his songs for that matter. At least not what I heard at my young age I don't think he has a really great voice. I think Sammy has a fantastic voice and wrote much more beautiful songs. I believe it is noted that they had more hits and sold more records with him too. Also he made great solo records as well while we all know David didn't. Kinda would be a preference eh? Cause they were both so great and such a big asset to the band it would be impossible to argue over whether one was better or not when they were with the band so really it'd have to be who you liked more. I think I'm probably going to be the only one to pick.......my man......Sammy Hagar. Dudes just awesome and he was a pretty niffty little guitar player too. Sammy! Asta!! __________________ "I love music and it's my parents fault (closing statement)." - Me..quoting myself...from when I said that...On TFP..thats here...Tilted Forum Project *It ain't goodbye, it's see ya later! I'll miss you guys!* - Asta!!

09-15-2003, 05:16 AM	#3 (permalink)
perripken Now a registered fossil Location: Home of the shrinking Kodak	I liked David Lee Roth as the frontman, but not solo, and I like Sammy solo and not as a frontman. __________________ And in the end, it’s not the years in your life that count. It’s the life in your years. Abraham Lincoln

09-15-2003, 07:22 AM	#7 (permalink)
DiffEng Tilted Location: Canada Eh!	I liked the fun loving attitude of Roth-era Van Halen, but I'm going to go with Hagar. I think the songs were just better. Do I dare stir it up and admit to liking the Cary Cherone era Van Halen? __________________ Plan for today: 1. Contemplate end of world 2. Build fort out of sofa

09-15-2003, 07:30 AM	#10 (permalink)
weasel2112 Upright Location: Lost in space	Sorry yall but Sammy Rocks. David was good in the day but Sammy is still the "Red Rocker" __________________ My Bad Ass Hummer

09-15-2003, 11:26 AM	#12 (permalink)
JohnnyRock Addict Location: Taxachussetts	Gotta say it is close...I liked both for their own reasons and always been a fan of the Red Rocker...but while Sammy is Sammy...Roth is still Van Halen __________________ Not only do I not know the answer...I don't even know what the question is!!!

09-14-2003, 08:39 PM	#2 (permalink)
coke babies Crazy	I thought they were a lot more fun with Roth. Hagar was decent, but I wouldn't listem to them unless they happened to be on the radio.

09-15-2003, 05:31 AM	#4 (permalink)
Thraeryn Loser	I like both of them solo. "I Can't Drive 55" is one of my favorite songs. However, as far as their time in Van Halen, I've gotta vote for Diamond Dave. They rocked a lot harder then, and Roth was funnier than Hagar. The music was more about good times than anything else.

09-15-2003, 05:36 AM	#5 (permalink)
rogue49 Loser	Van Halen, all the way. There was an edge, astounding creativity to their music back then.

09-15-2003, 05:56 AM	#6 (permalink)
lions20 Insane	David Lee Roth had many more hits with Van Halen than Sammy Hagar did.

09-15-2003, 07:26 AM	#8 (permalink)
Gortexfogg I and I Location: Stillwater, OK	Sammy is cool and stuff.... but David Lee Roth is the man. His voice and Eddie Van Halen's guitar were an awesome combination.

09-15-2003, 07:27 AM	#9 (permalink)
Jdoe Crazy	No question for me, I'm definitely a Roth man. Jdoe

09-15-2003, 10:57 AM	#11 (permalink)
90degree Insane	Diamond Dave... ... he seems pretty strange nowadays though.. hehe.

09-15-2003, 11:42 AM	#13 (permalink)
Redlemon Devoted Donor Location: New England	I liked Dave 'cause he had a sense of humor, and knew that it was all in fun. Sammy had no sense of humor, as far as I could tell. Gary, well, Gary just didn't fit, although Extreme's "Pornografitti" album was amazing. __________________ I can't read your signature. Sorry.

09-15-2003, 11:53 AM	#14 (permalink)
God of Thunder Talk nerdy to me Location: Flint, MI	I'm going to give the Grandma answer and say that I like them both equally. I was always dissapointed, however, that Sammy was never allowed to do more guitar work with Van Halen. He did on stage, but not on the VH songs. Eddies ego got in the way and they never explored the possibilities of a two-guitar band. __________________ I reject your reality, and substitute my own -- Adam Savage

09-15-2003, 01:23 PM	#15 (permalink)
DiffEng Tilted Location: Canada Eh!	Van Halen with duelling guitars would have been amazing! I can't knock anything they've done, but having two lead players and only using one just seems like a waste of talent. __________________ Plan for today: 1. Contemplate end of world 2. Build fort out of sofa

09-16-2003, 02:01 PM	#21 (permalink)
frankx Psycho Location: The Tip of the Boot	Van Halen with DLR. Never cared much for Sammy. __________________ Louisiana: We're Not ALL Drunken Cajun Wackos, But That's Our Tourism Campaign

09-21-2003, 04:28 AM	#29 (permalink)
Derwood Who You Crappin? Location: Everywhere and Nowhere	Van Neither __________________ "You can't shoot a country until it becomes a democracy." - Willravel

09-15-2003, 11:02 PM	#16 (permalink)
hawkeye back from sabbatical Location: Mosptopia	I like VH more for their music, esp. guitar work, than Vocals. So, I'm not too particular about who exactly is singing. I like sammy better as a solo artist, and he seems to be a genuinely friendly guy, as apposed to DLR's Assaholism. __________________ You're not fat, You're just a giant ball of love, covered in anger.

09-16-2003, 03:51 AM	#17 (permalink)
student Crazy	van halen is all about guitar. the roth era stuff was better in terms of guitar work. i really do not like sammy's voice, and dave was not really a talented singer, but he seemed to fit with the style they played. as far as the two leads....eddie is awesome because he plays rhythm and lead at what seems to be the time. he'll be playing the rhythm and all of the sudden you hear harmonics and a some blistering riff and then a dive bomb and he playing rhythm again....another player would have just made it muddy sounding

09-16-2003, 08:48 AM	#19 (permalink)
castex Psycho Location: france	Ah yes, Extreme. The ladies loved it when we gave them a drunken taste of the harmonies on 'more than words' one new year's eve... As a frontman, I've heard Sammy makes a wicked tequila.

09-16-2003, 10:26 AM	#20 (permalink)
b1gj0n Upright	Van Roth... But since he wasn't a choice i'd have to say Van Hagar.

09-18-2003, 08:29 AM	#22 (permalink)
holtmate Flailing White Boy Location: Cincinnati	I always liked the songe with Sammy more. Dave was all right, but he was a raging dick, and Sammy's got the tequila, too! __________________ "Give her your coat" "Why me?" "Because you're perfect." "You have a point there."

09-18-2003, 05:24 PM	#23 (permalink)
Kaos Ssssssssss Location: Ontario	With Roth, it was party and sex music...With Hagar, it turned into a love fest. Diamond Dave forever.

09-18-2003, 07:24 PM	#24 (permalink)
krwlz Fledgling Dead Head Location: Clarkson U.	Like both, but a voice is irreplacable.... It just wasnt right after Roth left...

09-18-2003, 07:55 PM	#25 (permalink)
SecretMethod70 Human Administrator Location: Chicago	Definitely Sammy. He's a WAY better singer and helped write much better songs too. Not to mention he's a nice guy. I saw him in concert one time in a fairly small venue and he took a break from playing when they needed to change stuff around or something and taught everyone how to make Cabo Wabo's on stage and then passed some around to the front row He's just Cool(tm). Roth is a jerk (but, yes, he's more funny). __________________ Le temps détruit tout "Musicians are the carriers and communicators of spirit in the most immediate sense." - Kurt Elling

09-18-2003, 11:17 PM	#26 (permalink)
shred_head Psycho Location: Atlanta, GA	I think its a little challenging for me to pick one. Roth-era songs are more just fun rock and roll driven whereas Hagar-era songs do tend to revolve around the love theme. But there were still some kick ass songs from the Hagar period (Poundcake, Top of the World, Humans Being). I'll have to go with Roth, you just can't beat him. And Roth's solo album "Eat 'em and Smile" kicks ass. "Skyscraper" is ok but isn't that great. __________________ "Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition from mediocre minds" -- Albert Einstein "A clear indication of women's superiority over man is their refusal to play air guitar." --Frank Zappa

09-20-2003, 07:10 AM	#28 (permalink)
h2ogo69 Banned	VAN HALEN .... i fucking hate van hagar

09-21-2003, 05:58 AM	#30 (permalink)
Cardinal Syn Insane Location: Arizona	David Lee Roth gave them charisma. I cant stand hagar. But i did enjoy some songs from him. But not as much as VAN HALEN!