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Old 05-19-2007, 06:21 AM   #1 (permalink)
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who digs the bluegrass?

just curious...i think there was some tangential discussion of this focusing primarily on nickel creek about a year ago...but i re-found this earlier this morning and wanted to share it....which led to a general curiosity about how many other tfp'ers have the bluegrass bug?



Kenny Smith, Wyatt Rice, and David Grier. holy shit.
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Old 05-19-2007, 07:17 AM   #2 (permalink)
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dude........totally dig this stuff.

although my band doesn't play exactly bluegrass,we do go all acoustic at times.

just bought myself an acoustic bass a couple months back,just for the acoustic sessions around the firepit.good fuckin' times baby.

thanks for the vid pigglet
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Old 05-19-2007, 07:26 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Bluegrass is good but kinda needs the right setting. Its like theme park music
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Old 05-19-2007, 07:41 AM   #4 (permalink)
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fly: search youtube for 'david grier' if you dig that bill cheatum cut...that dude can fucking play. i'm kind of hoping to use this thread to share different shit...i can't get enough of it. then again, i sort of grew up with it.

non traditional from david grier



live cut from tony rice, mark o'connor, jerry douglass and sam bush



same players, different live venue



fly, i don't know if you know sam bush or not; he's the mando player in these last two. he's up your alley as far as character and so forth.

do you have any of the acoustic stuff up on bluefly trio page?

edit: missed bbtb's post: i can't even relate to that 'right setting' thing i can listen to bluegrass round the clock. wait, i pretty much do. i admit it, i'm a bluegrass whore.
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Old 05-19-2007, 09:36 AM   #5 (permalink)
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fly, i don't know if you know sam bush or not; he's the mando player in these last two. he's up your alley as far as character and so forth.

do you have any of the acoustic stuff up on bluefly trio page?

yup........likin' me some sam bush baby........great player.

as for acoustic bluefly........nothin' really recorded other than a few on a 4 track.......but all you really hear is the damn fire crackling.(must place mics away from fire)


maybe i'll convince the boys to "bluegrass" up a couple tunes........they both play the mando fairly well.........we'll see what happens.

thanks for all these cool vids too pigglet.
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Old 05-19-2007, 09:46 AM   #6 (permalink)
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I love the stuff, though I don't know a lot of the artists or the very obscure stuff. I pretty much just have Nickel Creek and Yonder Mountain String Band in my collection. Thanks for sharing these vids and keep 'em coming!
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Old 05-19-2007, 10:23 AM   #7 (permalink)
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just for you supple

quick things: if you're into yonder mountain, don't settle for less the live mountain tracks series. fucking amazing - they are definitely better live than on recording.

if you're into nickel creek, you have to own chris thile's new 'solo' album (with noam pickelny on banjo...jesus that kid can play) and his previous solo album...can't recall the name of it, but you can tell it was a bunch of songs that nickel creek just wasn't appropriate for.

now, since you asked: Dan Crary



bryan sutton (w/ thile)



a little more sutton / thile



Tony Furtado fingerpicking



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but wait, he's really known as a banjo player. asshole! being so good.



his album 'swamped' is out of control.

ok, that's enough for now...i'll flood this thing. i heart youtube.

edit: fuck it, i just found this: thought it was interesting.

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Old 05-19-2007, 10:45 AM   #8 (permalink)
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Depends...is Brian Setzer bluegrass or is everyone still calling that 'swing'? I love Brian Setzer.
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Old 05-19-2007, 11:01 AM   #9 (permalink)
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i wouldn't really call brian setzer 'bluegrass,' so to speak...at least not the stuff of his i'm familiar with. i've usually heard it referred to as rockabilly / swing - regardless, i agree that dude can seriously play. totally badass...all the way from the stray cats and up. i'm sure he could put together some bluegrass work if he wanted to.
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Old 05-19-2007, 11:09 AM   #10 (permalink)
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I grew up playing bluegrass fiddle. I don't play much anymore ... but I do enjoy translating a lot of the stuff I played on fiddle to piano.

My neighbor across the street used to play bass for John Hartford. His record collection is amazing.

I love traditional bluegrass, and I love the new stuff coming out too. I also love the jazzy bluegrass that was hip for a while.

Real ... reel? ... music.
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i wouldn't really call brian setzer 'bluegrass,' so to speak...at least not the stuff of his i'm familiar with. i've usually heard it referred to as rockabilly / swing - regardless, i agree that dude can seriously play. totally badass...all the way from the stray cats and up. i'm sure he could put together some bluegrass work if he wanted to.
I suppose rockabilly is a better description. There sure are a lot of genres out there. Thanks!
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and his previous solo album...can't recall the name of it, but you can tell it was a bunch of songs that nickel creek just wasn't appropriate for.
Deceiver?

My exposure so far has been Nickel Creek and Strength in Numbers. I'll probably fill out my Watkins/Thile collection before looking onto other artists... though I'm wondering if there are any other 'impure' bluegrass acts that blend in folk and pop like Nickel Creek.
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Old 05-19-2007, 12:58 PM   #13 (permalink)
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fta, yep deceiver is the one i was thinking of.

for other 'non-traditional' artists, off the top of my head i'd say:

bela fleck and the flecktones
tony furtado
pyschograss
leftover salmon
old and in the way (jerry garcia, peter rowan, dave grisman, john kahn, and vasser clements)

this sounds more traditional, but its a take on an old and in the way tune by psychograss:




i can't say enough about tony rice...more traditional in his days with j.d. crowe circa the new south, all the way up to his more 'progressive' stuff like his album measure of time...now he's playing with peter rowan.



tony more recently showing up some skill



but doing this shit is why he became well known back in the 70's



better link to some old tony

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Old 05-19-2007, 02:53 PM   #14 (permalink)
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I dig the traditional bluegrass, but I'm also quite fond of the newer guys in the scene like Nickel Creek and Yonder Mountain Band.

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Old 05-20-2007, 07:53 AM   #16 (permalink)
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shit derwood, i haven't thought about them in ages; i had some friends a long time ago who were down with the splitlip, but somehow i never caught on. thanks for the link; are you also a gourds / hayseed dixie fan?

best gourds i could find



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Old 05-20-2007, 09:38 AM   #17 (permalink)
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this is turning into a damn fine thread guys..........


awesome set of vids...........thanks



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Old 05-20-2007, 11:55 AM   #18 (permalink)
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I get a little burned out on too much bluegrass, but I must say that I really enjoyed the Blueground Undergrass show that I went to a few months ago. Does that count? We get more into the Codetalkers and the like... that's more jam band stuff, I think.
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This is the first hints of bluegrass I remember, and will always hold a lasting memory for introducing me to such a laid-back sound.
Thanks pigglet for all the great bands and experience.


Dueling Banjos, which was found after watching this.

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ahahhhahhhaa...........bugs fuckin' bunny ............niceeeeeeeeeeee.
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i'll do this again when i figure out how to embed those video things...
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Old 05-20-2007, 03:07 PM   #22 (permalink)
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I think the Soggy Bottom Boys are considered Blue Grass. I like it.

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New BBcode [youtube] [googlevideo] [metacafe] [revver]

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Old 05-20-2007, 03:45 PM   #24 (permalink)
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for you elph:



which is [ youtube]g6LqX2v3lvY[ /youtube] where there's no spaces in the brackets, and the original link was http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g6LqX2v3lvY

jet you're more than welcome. i'm also being selfish in that i get some new links, and i have a place to archive what i find so i don't have to look for it again.

ok, another hero of mine: john hartford.



w/ johnny cash on the grand ole opry. i think vasser clements in on the fiddle.



he wrote gentle on my mind, which glen campbell made huge



live version of his song steam powered aero plane, off the album of the same name. great fucking album.



edit i'm adding these too so i won't have to look for them later





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thanks to comrade pigglet, i think i can do this embedding operation.
i'm not really a bluegrass fan at all--i grew up with it, though, so i've listened to alot of it--but i also avoid it when i can. it's a string player music and i am not one. but once i was away from it for a while, i got to appreciate the care that the players who do it put into it.

here are some of the things i kinda like...

seldom scene back in the day, with john duffy.
there's not much footage about of them, but there is this old chestnut:


here's another old chestnut: stéphane grappelli with david grisman.
i liked earlier grisman stuff quite alot--less and less as time went on. last things i heard had a truly miserable flute player. i dont this that jazz is as easy as some of these cats seem to think it is--but whatever, this stuff is grand:




and for sentimental reasons, here's a clip of the horseflies. they are very very ithaca ny. and they only get to me live. so this:

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Old 05-20-2007, 04:50 PM   #26 (permalink)
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hey roach...that's pretty sweet shit for a non bluegrass affectionado. good calls all the way around.

i sort of found a few more that i guess i'll post up here...but i think i'm going to overwhelm it soon. well, y'all can pick and choose. however, maybe you're thinking bluegrass is all about a bunch of misogynistic rednecks who beat their wimmens. well, maybe it is, but them wimmens also play some mighty fine music.

first up, michelle shocked. these aren't so bluegrassy..but couldn't find that material on youtube.






how about alison brown?


rhonda vincent?


and if mixed ever gets in here, she'd hurt me if i didn't include the oh my god awesome alison krauss.
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ok so here are a few more treats:

earl scruggs & the byrds:


flying burrito brothers: sin city


ok so it's not bluegrass...

this should make up for it:
the stanley brothers


and i figured the bluegrass guitarist light like ralph towner.
this has nothing to do with anything--but he is a great player.
give it a minute to get by the head, which is a little wimpy.

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shit derwood, i haven't thought about them in ages; i had some friends a long time ago who were down with the splitlip, but somehow i never caught on. thanks for the link; are you also a gourds / hayseed dixie fan?
Unfortunately, Split Lip Rayfield is no more, as guitarist Kirk died of esophageal cancer earlier in the year

As for the Gourds/Hayseed Dixie....meh. I mean, I haven't heard a ton of them, but I'm not at all into goofy bluegrass covers of metal/hip hop songs. I like originals
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shit, i didn't know that about split lip derwood...like i said, i haven't been really following them. that sucks donkey balls.

as for the other...i hear you on the hayseed dixie. as for the gourds...they have mostly original material...i think they did that gin & juice cover as part of their live shows a long time ago as a funny crowd gimmick...and it just fucking caught on. i wouldn't really call their material bluegrass, actually - more along the lines of folk / acoustic rock that frequently features a mando. the first time i heard that cover, it was brilliant to me. now...its sometimes hard to listen to. ok, usually.

ps and btw: you ever listen to the asylum street spankers? you might like them if you like split lip rayfield.





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Old 05-21-2007, 06:03 AM   #30 (permalink)
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you dig Leo Kottke pigglet?

i've been tryin' to find this 1 vid where he's finger pickin' on a 12 string.



fucking amazing

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lnQTC...elated&search=


this ain't the one but still you'll get the idea.


i too am unable to embed......sorry guys
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Old 05-21-2007, 06:10 AM   #31 (permalink)
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fly,

leo is fucking amazing. pure natural talent...dude can seriously play.

to embed:



[ youtube]lnQTC5ICGik[ /youtube]

without the spaces inside the bracket, taken from your link fly.

how about this? a little leo, a little doc watson, a little jack lawrence, a little chet atkins





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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CX-jO...elated&search=


this fucker can play man

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r2BOA...elated&search=


diggin' this guy too pigglet....
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Old 05-21-2007, 07:05 PM   #34 (permalink)
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Derwood............you mean the dude in the later vid?

i'd like to dial this guy in more............he's good
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fly, which one are you talking about...later vid in which post. the guy with the crazy guitar skill derwood linked above you is none of the artists he mentioned in the post (leo, ralph stanley or doyle lawson...i don't think he plays in any of their bands, either)

edit: ps, he's not bluegrass so i'm not linking him here, but have you checked out michael hedges?
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Dominic Frasca..............the impossible guitar.


your right........not quite bluegrass but...........pretty damn close.



add a mando and a banjo..........toss a bit more tempo at it..........you got bluegrass.


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oh i agree...i love the link. fuck it.

check this guy out:









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That's my cousin singin He can play every one of those instruments better than most people can play one. I'm not a fan of bluegrass but I've got fond memories of the family comin down and setting up in my grandparents' living room. Great stuff
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sweet mike. whereabouts? got more links?
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I was neve a huge fan as a kid cuz it was "stupid country stuff". But as I started to actually play music, I realized the talent it took, and appreciated it more. Great links.

It's kinda funny because just the day I was poking around Borders and came across "Picking on Green Day" which is simply some Green Day songs made bluegrass.

http://www.amazon.com/Green-Day-Blue.../dp/B0002MPQBE

There are some samples on that page, and definitely worth the listen. I ended up picking up the CD and have been playing it non stop in my car =)
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