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Whitch is the best drift car

Hi there
I'd like to know witch car is the best for drift ...

PC35- RX7
R32 Skyline GTS - T Silvia S13 K's
S14 ks Silvia
Toyota supra ...
200sx turbo hatch


plex

ibis

Um... you may want to share what a drift car is. Never heard of that. Neither has google.

1slOwCD8

id say the silvia or a 180sx.i dunno its hard to say cuz most drift cars kinda have the same setup..i.e. rwd, lsd, lots of hp, and a manual tranny. mostly its the drivers skill. r u asking cuz u want to know or u want our opinion?

castex

Anything front engined and rear wheel drive, with lots of normally aspirated power. All the cars you mention would be good - apart from the 4WD skyline of course - but their turbos would make the process a touch trickier to control, I should imagine.
BTW, my old BMW 325i does quite well when the wife's not riding along

Lockjaw

Hmmm sounds like a Camaro would be a wonderful drift car by that criteria.

hirosada

Plex from HR and C4?


Camaro's would be fine if they weren't so heavy.

RX7's are nice and agile, but you really need to understand the mechanics behind the car unless you wanna pay someone to fix everything you break.. But I guess that can be said with any car.

Skyline GTS, not unless you live where they are sold, getting your hands on a Skyline would either mean it's just for track or you've paid quite a bit of money for something to toss around. Oh and the GTS models are RWD, the GTR models are AWD.

Any of the 180sx/240sx(or 200sx in Europe)/Silvia's would be fine, just be sure to toss an LSD on it.. these are easy to come by and have a huge aftermarket.

Toyota Supra, seriously a heavy and powerful car, but a very expensive car to setup for drift. Plus the independant rear suspension in the ass end makes it tricky.

But I noticed the poor old Corolla GT-S didn't make that list, what's the deal with that? A few others to consider are; older Volvo 240's, Miata's, mid '90s BMW 3-Series, SC300/Soarer's.. the list just goes on and on.

But as 1slOwCD8 said front engine, rear wheel drive, limited slip diff, light weight, and manual. Sure you can drift an auto, but you better have lots of power on tap. If you are stuck with a lower powered vehicle it's pretty much manual or nothing.

Xepidemic

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Lockjaw

The LS1 Camaros weren't THAT heavy. 3300 lbs or so. And with that power they have the best power to weight ratio likely mentioned thus far and you can always lighten a car up a bit.

ibis

Seriousally, though. What's a drift car?

HunterDevourer

http://www.meggala.com/driftcss.htm that should give you some idea what it is, basically you swing the arse end around and opposite lock in a turn. You've gotta keep the wheels spinning fast enough to not spin out.
Camaro might be ok, but I don't think the balance is great, and generally you want fairly good balance in a car for drift.
Silvias, rx7s, 200sx, Cefiro, Skyline GTSt, etc etc. Turbo cars don't make it harder, you've just gotta keep it in the rev range to keep getting the forced induction.
It'd also be helpful to mention what country you're in. Australians wouldn't have problems getting any of the cars I mentioned, but would find it very hard to get a Camaro. New Zealanders could get any car...

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germanguy

nissan silvias/240sxs are great drift cars. cheap and easy to build into a drifting machine.

and of course those damn 86 corollas.

hirosada

The only down side to those AE86's are how rare they are, and how much people are selling them for. The drift scene with Initial D is making them pretty hard to come by. If anyone ever tells you, "Oh get an AE86 SR5/GT-S whatever, because it's cheap." Smack them in the teeth, you'd spend less money building a 180/240sx/Silvia and less time invested. So far my 1986 Toyota Corolla Sport GT-S (for some reason my insurance company likes rubbing that long name in my face). I've spent $1500 on the car itself, and nearly $3450 on it in parts and other misc labor, and still need to toss a new engine into it. Not to mention the suspension work, new rubber, paint, more body work, new 2-Way LSD, interior work, and EXTRA-HAPPY-DORIFTO-COOL-SHIFTUH-KNOB.. well maybe not that last thing. But you get the picture, the killer part of this all is I'm not building a drift car really, just something to drive around in and have fun with. Oh the joy of a near 20 year old import.

animal909

like early 240's but you need either a heavily boosted ka engine or swap in an sr20det engine with a quick spool up turbo.

Scooby

Hirosada...do you have any pics of your Toyota?

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Xepidemic

yeah your right hirosada! op just forget it in his list

YakuzaStinger

which is a better drift car depends on ur own driving really i assume u mean the rx7 fc turbo 2 the 85-92' model that car makes a nice drift car cause it has a perfect 50/50 weight 50 % in the front 50% in rear. But to get that you have to deal with the rotary engine and it needs lots of maintaining so if u can work on it, its a good one. As for the skyline i would worry too much with it dont know bout the r32' 4wd system and if its always on but either way its more wieght and $$$ for getting it and its parts. The silvia is a very good drift car light nice power just need suspension work and some engine mods and a rear end and bam u got it or u could do a 240 engine swap. As for the supra i own an 87' supra myself too heavy to drift with and lots of body role but 52% to 48% so if u can gut it enough and do suspension u could drift with it now assume u mean an mk4 supra though 93-98' i have seen ppl drift with it but i personally wouldnt choose it but thats just me. Even an mk4 has some serious weight stock. i would go with a sil over a 200sx hatch but again its ur call and it all depends on what u are good at driving just cause one setup works well for one guy that can tear up the track does not mean it will work for you.

Death9099

Mazda RX-7 FC, and Toyota Corolla GTS AE86 both have 50/50 weight dis or near it. Also i think they look the best, but from a reliable stand point id choose the AE86 and 240sx.

hirosada

Here you go, pics of my boro-project.

Current, side skirts will go on after the engine swap.. plus they need some modification.



Originally when I bought it:



The wheels threw me at first, but they are just Celica wheels, known as Baby Supra's. I've got a set of Rewinds waitting for rubber, but the engine of course comes first.

See the extra cheap blingy wheels? A whopping $345 shipped.

bodypainter

I must be over the hill too. I would have thought the OP was looking for a good car to drift through corners on a twisty road.

klo

MR2, seems pretty good. No good for driving in the snow though...

the old Toyota cars are pretty good for drifting as well and also the RX7 series (too much initial d)

stingc

I'm not sure why you need a special car to drift. As long as it's RWD and easily controllable, you should be fine. Hell, even my old e-class mercedes is good at it (got to play at an empty airport once).

Scooby

Hey nice car! Good luck with restoring it! It's nice to see someone who has time and desire to rebuild such a car.

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mdryfhout

What engine are you putting in your ae86 nothch back "Haci Roku" , 3tgte . 4age20v,gze or a 3sgte any on of those is good look like it will look good when fin
Good Job
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MSD

I'd go for the RX7

Good article on this in Car&Driver a few months ago. See if they have back issues at the library. They blew two engines before they decided that an upgraded oil pump system would be a good idea.

hirosada

Yeah the RX7 is a great car, you don't even need to get the TII models to have fun. Just be sure to maintain them, of course that's common sense. Thanks for the comments. As for my engine choice it'll wind up being a newer high-compression 7 rib block (red top), rebuilt low-compression head (blue top), and some mild to hot cams. So you could say a hybrid with nice cams.

STi

ae86 (Hachi-Roku) gets my vote. cheap, durable, 130HP, not much... but enough

4AG engine which can be modded easily.

mdryfhout

So ahh sounds fat good luck with ya project and yor right AE86 are not cheap to get trueno here your looking @ $6000 NZD for semi desent

MrMooney

I've been into drifting and canyon driving for like 4 years now and i have to say if your gonna drift then just get some cheap RWD car IE AE86 or S13 or maybe even an NA FC3S I've also drifted a Cresida. Go with a beat up old buster because drifting always ends in messed up fenders suspension pieces!!!! and just plain wear and tear. If you think u can drift a nice shinny car down the roads think again most of the best drifters i know drive broken down POS's..... just my .02

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Scorps

All the top drifters use 240SX's so I would go with one of them!

geeza

How about a moody Ford RS Cosworth Sapphire 2WD with 400HP on tap? However, thanks to the narrow 'powerband' you get with some turbo engines, it can be interesting: if you're not on boost as you enter the drift it kicks in as soon as the wheels get going, and the RPM soars. Then it goes mad. If you are in boost when you enter the drift, it rips through really quickly. You have to feed it in and out carefully.

bodypainter

I guess 'drift' cars have been around a long time! My wife's boss owns an old race car (from the 50's - it won its class at La Mans several times) and I got to see it the other day. The odd thing was, the engine is way out in front of the front axle. When I asked him why anyone would put so much weight out front he said it was so the car could slide easily around corners. Makes sense I guess especially back in those days when tire science wasn't exactly advanced.

Here it is - check out where the engine is!

http://www.oldweakandpathetic.com/tilted/PA122431s.jpg

Here's the car from the back.

http://www.oldweakandpathetic.com/tilted/PA122432cs.jpg

deve

2004 Pontiac GTO---ask Ryhs Millen or,
of course a 92 240sx. SR20 bitch!