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Old 06-06-2003, 08:27 PM   #1 (permalink)
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quiting smoking need help

well today is day 4 w/o a smoke, im using the commit losange by nicorett but its still hard. anyone quit that can offer up some advice?
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Old 06-06-2003, 08:30 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Just think of the money you will save.
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Old 06-06-2003, 08:31 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Don't hang around people that smoke. Do that for 2-3 weeks and you should be fine. Needs lots of willpower to keep from not smoking, in the future, should you decide to hang out with smokers again.
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Old 06-06-2003, 08:33 PM   #4 (permalink)
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I don't know what to say to help. That said, good luck to you, I hope it goes well. And like rogue said, think of the money, plus, think of your health in the long run.
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Old 06-07-2003, 05:39 AM   #5 (permalink)
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Remember that whether you smoke or not, the urge to smoke will go away.
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Old 06-07-2003, 10:10 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Don't go around people smoking, look at pictures of people who died of smoking, go to the american lung assoc. and ask to breathe through the tube that is like emphizama (creepy shit, makes it really hard to breathe), and if worse comes to worse trade smoking for drinking.
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Old 06-10-2003, 01:10 AM   #7 (permalink)
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So yeah, I'm dead serious when I say this.

Just don't let yourself.

For some reason people are shocked when I say that. I manage to have faith in willpower.
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Old 06-12-2003, 06:19 PM   #8 (permalink)
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I quit cold turkey froma pack-a-day habit. I had started taking Wellbutrin(same as Zyban) for depression which may have helped a lot. After the first three days it became easy because I just got stubborn and did not want to let myself down. Save the money you would have spent on cigarettes in jar. after a month, buy yourself something. I bought myself a watch. If you smoke a cigarette, give the money to charity and start over!
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Old 06-17-2003, 10:48 PM   #9 (permalink)
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Don't hang around people that smoke. Do that for 2-3 weeks and you should be fine. Needs lots of willpower to keep from not smoking, in the future, should you decide to hang out with smokers again.
I can't say it any better...It all about you wanting to do it for you, your health/future, and extra cash.
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Old 06-21-2003, 10:38 PM   #10 (permalink)
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It's cool to smoke!

When I quit smoking in 1988 for the first time, I had been smoking
for 28 years. I lasted for 6 years and then started smoking again in 1994, blaming stress for my relapse. The scary part was that I had succeeded for that long and then went back. Lesson to be learned: The habit NEVER leaves you, at least for me, it doesn’t.

I quit cold turkey, BOTH times. I quit again in 1997 and have not smoked since, so I guess it has been another 6 years this time.

I used money as a motivator to quit. I used to smoke at least 2 packs a day. When I first quit, I figured that I was spending about $100.00 a month on cigs. That was in 1988. Well, I ALWAYS paid myself that amount of money per month. My logic was that a smoker will do without anything but cigs. So, I paid myself $100.00 a month to not smoke, and I stlll do! I really should give myself a raise, as I know if I still smoked 2 packs a day, that it would be well over $100.00 a month now. I set that
money aside and dedicate it to buying extravagant things for myself. After all, it would be up in smoke anyway!

Another motivator was time. I figured that it took about 10 minutes to smoke a cig. If I smoked 6 cigs a day, well, I lost an hour of productivity, and not many serious smokers just smoke 6 cigs a day. Quit smoking, and productivity increases.

The second time I quit was much harder than the first. I think that it was because I had succeeded before and therefore I KNEW I could do it again. So I kept putting off quitting, as I knew I could do it whenever I chose to do so. Another problem with the second time was that it seemed as if the nicotine was so much stronger than before. I was smoking so much that I was literally chain smoking at times. Yes, lighting a new cig with the fire from the old one. My wife told me that she had never seen anyone go from not smoking to smoking as much as I did.

And, yes, when I quite…both times…SHE continued to smoke. Therefore, it was that much harder for me to quit. Having to live with a smoker. There was no: “I’ll go outside, so it doesn’t bother you.” Her perpetual “flick of the Bic” was a constant reminder of my need for a cigarette. It continually triggered a Pavlovian response whenever I heard it.

But what did she know? She had NEVER tried to quit smoking…well, that is, until she went into ICU...then she quit.
That is where a LOT of people will quit; they just don’t know it yet. Whenever someone you love is going to have heart surgery and the Dr. says that they don’t know if their lung capacity is good enough to get off of the heart-lung machine, it makes all
those days of looking “cool” seem a bit naïve. Sitting outside the operating room, weeping, and waiting…I lost my mother to lung cancer, and my wife's mother HAS lung cancer, and she STILL smokes! Yeah...it's cool to smoke.
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Old 06-22-2003, 09:29 AM   #11 (permalink)
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I believe that cold turkey is the best. I've heard that getting the nicotine out of your system completely works best in the long run. You might want to get a pipe just to have something to chew on and put in your mouth. That worked for me. No tobacco, just an empty pipe.
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Old 06-22-2003, 11:19 AM   #12 (permalink)
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well. i dont know what to say. i 've never smoked. dont plan on it. but those of u who hav quit, congrats, im sure it was hard as fuck. specially maintining the 'quit' status as mrsandman told us. as for those who are tryin to quit, best of luck
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Old 06-22-2003, 11:19 AM   #13 (permalink)
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well. i dont know what to say. i 've never smoked. dont plan on it. but those of u who hav quit, congrats, im sure it was hard as fuck. specially maintining the 'quit' status as mrsandman told us. as for those who are tryin to quit, best of luck.

but for me. i'd think money and health would be the biggest motivators. that and my gf despises cigs. =P
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Old 06-23-2003, 10:32 PM   #14 (permalink)
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I've quit a few times. Now I smoke a pack a day. My only successes were going cold turkey. The lozenges just stretch out your addiction and they cost a shitload. The second week of cold turkey aint so bad. The second week of lozenges you still have hard-core physical cravings. I made it six weeks cold turkey, and only a week with the lozenges. Overall, I'm still a big fucking failure so ignore everything I say.
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Old 06-24-2003, 03:45 AM   #15 (permalink)
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Try putting the money save on smokes into a jar. After 1 week you'll be surprised. After a month you'll wonder why you started in the first place.

I stopped at new year and I've saved enough for 2 weeks in Ibiza with spending money.
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Old 06-26-2003, 01:32 AM   #16 (permalink)
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Switch to Menthols. You Still get your nicotine. I found them easier to stop smoking, especially since I didnt want to be smoking them. Might Not work if you like menthols

Smoke only when you cant resist it anymore, then only smoke til you are able to throw the cigarette down. Smoke as little of the cigarette as possible then stomp it out. It Might seem like a waste but it is a lot easier to quit that way.
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Old 06-26-2003, 08:23 AM   #17 (permalink)
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when i quit... my mom came up and send hey ill give you X amount of money if you havent smoked one ciggarette a year from now ... Its been about 1 year and 2 months since i quit and i never look back. plus i look at all my friends who smoke and im just like wow i am glad i dont smell, cough or talk like that

just think of all the GOOD/GREAT things that come out of it
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Old 06-26-2003, 09:07 AM   #18 (permalink)
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I quit smoking 1 week ago today. I also quit a while ago for 6 months.

This time it was extra hard, since my girlfriend and i just broke up just over 3 weeks ago, and i found out that there was this other shit to the whole situation, which naturally caused me to become a little depressed.

Either way, even though a lot of this other stress was put on my shoulders after i quit smoking, i still continue to not smoke. I set up a plan for quitting smoking, and a lot of people have said some of the same things that are in my plan.

First of all, i knew i needed a big change in my life. I started going to the gym every day about 3 weeks ago. That was a fairly big change, and i used this to get ready to quit smoking. I was starting to feel healthier, so quitting smoking would help me feel a whole lot better. I also didn't smoke on my way to the gym, or back, so i didn't get into that habbit.

Then i sat down and thought about when i smoke. Every time i came down to my computer, i would light a cigarette up. Every break at work i would go outside and have a smoke. After every meal, naturally, i would smoke. After waking up from sleeping, i would have a smoke.

The best thing to do is, think about other things you can do instead of smoking when you do these things. Take each time as a different event.

When i come downstairs now, i just open up my bag of goodies and suck on a sucker.

After i eat something i focus on the taste of the food rather than the feeling i would be having if i were to have a smoke. I also drink a lot of water after and maybe suck on some candy.

At work on break i still go outside with the smokers, i just dno't smoke. I suck on life savers instead, and i drink a drink when i am out there.


The best advice anyone can be given about quitting is the fact that the actual cravings don't last all that long. Within a few days, you won't crave the nicotine anymore. All of that nicorette and all that other bullshit is exactly what it is... bullshit. It's the mental cravings that you need to overcome. The only way you can do that is by taking action, believing in yourself, and the most important is, you can only do it if you actually want to quit.

A lot of people want to quit because it's bad for their health and all that, but they would still like to smoke if it was good for them. DON'T EVER THINK THIS WAY. If you do, you won't quit.

Just make little changes in your life to compinsate for the times you would have been smoking.







I know how to explain it a little better.....

You know those cravings you get when you would normally be having a smoke... you get a craving to have a smoke at that time? Well, instead of thinking about that craving being a craving for a smoke, try to turn it into a craving for something else. Mine is candy (life savers and suckers)... You might gain a little bit of weight, but that's a fuck of a lot better than dying from cancer.

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Old 06-26-2003, 10:00 AM   #19 (permalink)
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I smoked of a year to find out why people can't quit... (I know, I know) it was an experiment, and I can say that I don't know why people can't stop. I found out my wife was pregnant and threw away the pack right away. Never looked back and never cared to.

Sorry not much help, but if you want to quit it's really a matter of just not doing it.
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Old 06-26-2003, 12:14 PM   #20 (permalink)
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Old 06-26-2003, 03:39 PM   #21 (permalink)
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I smoked of a year to find out why people can't quit... (I know, I know) it was an experiment, and I can say that I don't know why people can't stop. I found out my wife was pregnant and threw away the pack right away. Never looked back and never cared to.

Sorry not much help, but if you want to quit it's really a matter of just not doing it.

It is that easy if you actually want to.


I know that i'm not going to be a smoker for the rest of my life now because of one thing and one thing only.

I smoked for about 5 years, then quit for about 3 months. Then started again and that went on for another year, then i quit for 6 months. The second time was much much harder than the first. The nicotine cravings were insane. This time, being almost 2 years after i quit the second time was the hardest with the physical cravings. That mixed with the fact that people actually do want to light up a smoke will prevent people from quitting.

Your wife is a very common case though. She probably quit for the kid. The easiest thing to do is something for your kid.

Everybody is different and it basically comes down to.. you aren't goin gto quit if you still want to light up a smoke at some point in time in your life (whether it be while drinking or whatever).. as long as you want to never light one up, you will be fine.
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Old 06-26-2003, 06:42 PM   #22 (permalink)
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Everyone can tell you it's as easy as just throwing the pack away and not picking it back up, but that just isn't the case. As you probably know the addiction can overpower your will to quit and you fail. Positive thinking is helpful and neccasary to quit, but all to often is not enough. I don't sugest using nicotine supplements to curve cravings because that is what you are addicted to. The first product to actually help the chemical addiction is a product called Zyban. It is a fancy new name for a antidepresent thats been around for a few decades called wellbutrin. They found that it helps with the craving because it stimulates the same receptors in the brain as nicotine. This may explain why alot of smokers suffer from depression and have a hard time quiting. Any way Zyban is fairly expensive and not covered by alot of insurance companies. I would suggest requesting wellbutrin from your doctor and getting checked for depression as this may have something to do with the trouble quiting.
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Old 06-26-2003, 10:50 PM   #23 (permalink)
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i would not suggest using Zyban

for one... if you aren't depressed, it has some pretty weird effects on you

for another, if you are allergic to it (only aboiut 2% of the population is) it really sucks.

I say screw any drugs or anyting like that and just prepare yourself to quit before doing so. It's the best thing to do!!!!
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Old 06-27-2003, 10:11 AM   #24 (permalink)
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I was fortunate enough not to develop an "addiction" to them. The only thing I am addicted to now is sex and cycling... So hey all things are possible if you put your mind to it and don't give up.... Never give up.. Carpe Diem
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Old 06-27-2003, 12:17 PM   #25 (permalink)
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The first product to actually help the chemical addiction is a product called Zyban. It is a fancy new name for a antidepresent thats been around for a few decades called wellbutrin.
Bupropion.

An over the counter amino acid DLPA might be more effective. With an MAOI antidepressant it will be even more effective.
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Old 06-27-2003, 10:16 PM   #26 (permalink)
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Bupropion.

An over the counter amino acid DLPA might be more effective. With an MAOI antidepressant it will be even more effective.
Same drug. Bupropion is the generic name. An MAOI may be effective for depression but doesn't effect the same triggers as smoking. That is what makes the Zyban work. It does have side effects, but they aren't nearly as bad as smoking!!
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