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Caphreak · 09-26-2005, 08:33 PM

If you're going to call all those people stat-exploiters, you need to check out their stats a little. All of them have well over 600 hours played. I just ticked off the 100 hour mark, and i have a little over 12000 points. I score points about average(100/hr), but ive gone on a run where i score several hundred points in a night. Most of those people have more than 2000 matches played. Their stats are good, but there are exceptionally good people that play every game. A friend of mine, who plays no more than i do, but i play with him every night, has over 30,000 points in a little over a week of play time. I've never seen him exploit anything.

I'm not saying there arent stats exploiters out there, but once you get into the bf2 community, you'll realize that some people are just that good.

Krycheck · 09-26-2005, 09:35 PM

Well it looks like it's gonna be expensive for a BF2 server. a 24 player ranked server goes for about $98!!

I'm gonna have to give that some more thought...

portwineboy · 09-27-2005, 03:51 AM

I don't see myself hitting anything past rank 4 either. I'm really torn between the G36 and the Jackhammer. I play medic and antitank mostly. My stats suck!

(same tag if you want to look me up). My K/D ratio is .77 - too many drunk late night Fridays.

I've noticed that I play MEC a lot...and I seem to lose a lot more when playing MEC. Does anyone else notice this?

Lasereth · 09-27-2005, 04:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Caphreak

If you're going to call all those people stat-exploiters, you need to check out their stats a little. All of them have well over 600 hours played. I just ticked off the 100 hour mark, and i have a little over 12000 points. I score points about average(100/hr), but ive gone on a run where i score several hundred points in a night. Most of those people have more than 2000 matches played. Their stats are good, but there are exceptionally good people that play every game. A friend of mine, who plays no more than i do, but i play with him every night, has over 30,000 points in a little over a week of play time. I've never seen him exploit anything.

I'm not saying there arent stats exploiters out there, but once you get into the bf2 community, you'll realize that some people are just that good.

That is an insane amount of playing. 2000 matches? 600 hours of playtime? Damn. That's incredible. I'll attribute their scores to their time played, but not necessary to being "that good." There's only so many opportunities for points in one round.

If they're already up to 600 hours of playtime, I can certainly see having a score in the 50k range, but I'm still calling BS on the people with 150,000 points. I've read quite a few forums with EA representatives showing how they got their points and showing their global scores being reset because of them exploiting. I'd hate to think of someone's life that has 100,000 legit points...

*EDIT*

I checked the stats on one of the top scorers on the leaderboard. His stats are really, really fishy. His highest map score is in the 400 range...and it was Karkand. Else they have the tickets set incredibly high, or he's exploiting with people. His kill streak is also 50 on Karkand. 50 fucking people? Come on! You know how Karkand is...death is right around the corner.

But 50?? That's just odd. Killing 50 people without dying is borderline impossible unless the other side was just standing there. Maybe he's playing with an incredible squad or something that he knows IRL. That just really irks me...I wonder what he does to get stats like that besides playing 24/7. I'm leaning towards the mass-Karkand map with insane tickets, since 90% (literally) of his playtime is at Karkand only.

-Lasereth

Caphreak · 09-27-2005, 05:20 AM

A kill streak of 50 is a commander kill streak. Mine is 35 on karkand. On Karkand, with a good team, on a 64 player map, its incredibly easy to rack up 50 artillery kills. On a 32 player map, my average score on karkand is over 100. 64 would be even higher, but i hate playing 64 player. I'm sure they do things like armor whore, command a lot, heli-whore (nothing but flying and capping flags) but that doesnt really make it an exploit. Also, if you play at certain times of the day, (early morning US time) its easy to find a 64p map with like 10 people on it. You know how long it takes on some maps to work off 350 tickets? Enough to score a few hundred points for sure. I play with a group of about 20 people, former gaming clan, now just a casual clan, and several of us (not me) have high scores in the 300+ range.

The only exploit i would accuse most of them for is multi-people on 1 account. I think i would develop gangrene in my legs if i played for more than 6 hours a day.

I see the top user as 136,000? Is there somewhere else where people show as higher, into the 150k range?

Zeraph · 09-27-2005, 09:57 AM

Ya cap beat me to it, I've gotten upper 20s kill streaks, and I wasn't trying very hard. I could see a commander hiding out on a 64 map and getting that. Would still be hard, but possible.

Those people with such scores seriously need to get a life. This game is just not that indepth to play that much and since stats don't actually mean anything..

It's funny, lately I've actually just been playing single player. It can still be a challenge, just in a different way. The NPCs shooting or tactics (or something, not sure) isnt as good as a players but they make up for it in other ways. But the nice thing is you can do whatever you want, no one camps the heli or the tank, don't have to worry about idiots TKing, can play what you want, when you want without having to search for it, no lag, don't have to worry about being kicked at the last part of the game because some admin is a jerk, etc.

Caphreak · 09-27-2005, 10:38 AM

Yeah, they definitely need to revamp the tk system. I dont deserve -20 points for some idiot with a full DPV driving into an arty that i just threw down.

Can you play more than 8v8 in sp? I have pretty much only used SP to set up my PS2 controller to fly the jets, but i could see it being more fun if you could at least play 16v16.

Zeraph · 09-27-2005, 02:50 PM

Naw, only small maps, which sucks, but sometimes I feel like small maps anyway.

portwineboy · 10-04-2005, 03:45 AM

1.3 Patch being released today (although not yet as of this post).

No more TK from commander arty, kick vote requirements lowered, new map (Wake from BF1942), AA missiles do more damage...track better, drivers can now see passenger names, cap points have actual names, server favorites (finally) added and stat comparisons now available in the BFHQ menu.

Weighs in at 175MB.

Supposedly also (can't find this confirmed) helo passengers no longer get cap points for hover caps...pilots only.

Lock n Load!

Lasereth · 10-04-2005, 04:45 AM

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Originally Posted by portwineboy

Lock n Load!

Locked and loaded!! In the next few days I'll get my second weapon unlock. I can't wait!! Wake Island is gonna be a riot too.

-Lasereth

Silvy · 10-04-2005, 06:35 AM

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Originally Posted by portwineboy

1.3 Patch being released today (although not yet as of this post).

Where'd ya get that info?

Anyhow, I just checked, it's not released yet.
I hope they release using bittorrent!

portwineboy · 10-04-2005, 07:24 AM

IGN via Shacknews

jvwgtr · 10-04-2005, 09:17 AM

Hooray!!! The patch is here!!
I'm downloading it now...

Lasereth · 10-04-2005, 10:01 AM

Downloading the patch at 10 KBps. WEEE!! Should be done in a few hours. It's a good thing I have work to do else I'd be mad for the terrible download speed. At least they're not releasing the patch to third party sites instead of hosting it themselves...BF1942 did this quite often, resulting in each player having to filter through a dozen (literally) sign-up membership sites just to download the damn patch.

-Lasereth

portwineboy · 10-04-2005, 03:54 PM

Promotion scores have been lowered. I made it to Sgt. almost automatically. 2 Unlocks! I never dreamed...

ObieX · 10-04-2005, 06:06 PM

heh i got like 4 promotions. and only 1 unlock (wtf?)

ObieX · 10-04-2005, 11:35 PM

hmm nm i guess it just took the other unlocks time to register or something

Silvy · 10-05-2005, 04:06 AM

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Originally Posted by ObieX

hmm nm i guess it just took the other unlocks time to register or something

Note: I think I read in the changelog of the newest patch (1.03) that the requirements for some ranks, etc have been changed. Perhaps that behavior is related to that?

ObieX · 10-05-2005, 04:19 AM

nope i got them. i dunno why it took so long tho.

the requirements that were changed is just the level of points you need. it only takes 8k now to get to gunnery sergeant, and 20k to get to the next one. they finally put in the 2 service ribbons for fareast/mideast.

Lasereth · 10-05-2005, 06:42 AM

Wahoo!! Gunnery Sergeant Lasereth!! That was a pleasant surprise. I went from Lance Corporal to Corporal, to Sergeant, to Staff Sergeant, and then to Gunnery Sergeant in the same map.

-Lasereth

Lasereth · 10-05-2005, 03:25 PM

Damn. I logged in today and found out that my stats weren't updated yet. I now have THREE unlocks!! I chose the G36C as the second unlock...I don't know what I'm gonna choose as my third. I'm thinking either the G3 or L85A1. I'll miss the grenade launcher if I get the G3, but the damn thing has the power of a heavy machine gun, without the terrible accuracy. Only a 20 round clip though. I don't play medic often (even though I enjoy it) so I'm not sure if I should get the L85A1. The rest of the guns aren't for me. I already have the JackHammer (MK3A1) so I don't need another shotgun. Decisions, decisions.

*EDIT*

I feel stupid. I unlocked the G3 just now and realized that I had 2 MORE unlocks on top of that one. Now I have the JackHammer, G36C, G3, L85A1, and DAO-12 unlocked. The rest are the guns I'd never get -- the PKM and the M95. I personally think the heavy assault (support) class is terrible...the accuracy is so bad on the PKM and M249 SAW that they're unusable, even at prone. I hate playing Sniper, so I'd never get the M95. They seriously need to give a little more accuracy to the PKM...that class is useless against most classes now. I played Heavy Assault with the PKM and M249 SAW in the Desert Combat mod for 1942, so it'd be really cool to go back to my "huge fucking gun" roots.

-Lasereth

Scorpion23 · 10-06-2005, 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Lasereth

Wahoo!! Gunnery Sergeant Lasereth!! That was a pleasant surprise. I went from Lance Corporal to Corporal, to Sergeant, to Staff Sergeant, and then to Gunnery Sergeant in the same map.

-Lasereth

wow, how long did you play?

Lasereth · 10-07-2005, 07:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Scorpion23

wow, how long did you play?

Earlier in the thread it was mentioned that they lowered the requirements for each rank. In other words, if before, rank 4 took 10k points, and now rank 7 or 8 takes 10k points, you're gonna gain 4 ranks when you log in because you had 10k points to begin with. I simply jumped a few ranks because of the lowered requirements. I'm happy to have more unlocks, but I think they went a little overboard. The ranks are fine, but they should make it so that the unlocks aren't as easily attainable.

-Lasereth

WillyPete · 10-07-2005, 07:57 AM

I agree, it would make for better team work to include some of the awards for promotion requirements, and change some of the awards so that they require 'team time' to be valid.

It sucks playing commander on a 32 player server and seeing only one 3 man team to command.

As for the weapon choices, I grabbed the m95. I often play a sniper and do as much spotting as the commander.

I try and find a tower or overlooking spot near their chopper pads. I can shoot the pilot with 2 hits with the m95. They weren't joking when they said it can go through cockpits. Tip: keep the fire button pressed for that rifle and the anti-tank missile to avoid reloading and not seeing where your shot is placed. I wasted so many shots without knowing that.

Lasereth, what's your id?

me: http://bf2s.com/player/wp1969/

Lasereth · 10-07-2005, 08:07 AM

My ID is http://www.bf2s.com/player/lasereth/ .

Many people don't know that if you keep the fire button held down for the anti-tank missile, you actually control where the rocket goes. I didn't figure that out for a while.

-Lasereth

Lasereth · 10-07-2005, 09:28 AM

Wow. I started using the RPK-74 support machine gun and I think I like it. I've started getting into the habit of prone-firing, so now I don't have a hard time with accuracy. Just now I did a match on Karkand with the support gun and laid complete waste to the Americans. I think I might have broke my killing streak.

I got 82 points with 39 kills on a single, 150 point Karkand map. It was great. My next unlock will definitely be the PKM (Desert Combat style

).

-Lasereth

Redjake · 10-07-2005, 10:14 AM

Lasereth doesn't tell about his little "microphone fun" he has with the game. I am chillin' out doing homework or talking on AIM or something and I hear JESUS CHRIST GOOD SHOT SOLDIER!!!!!!!! and FIRE IN THE HOLE GOOD GOD!!!!!!! and shit like NORTH NORTHWEST WE GOT CHARLIE ALL OVER THE PLACE!!!!!!!!

He enjoys the microphone, what can I say. Half the time I think he is talking to me, but nope, he's talking to the Squad.

Caphreak · 10-07-2005, 12:35 PM

The patch is good, except i feel a little cheated. Me and my squad worked really hard to get all our ribbons/medals/unlocks (the far east and mid east service ribbons were always there, you just needed 250 global hours total before they would unlock) and now every nub and their brother has all those ribbons. I guess most of the changes in gameplay is ok, the promotion requirements are a little soft though.

Cardinal Syn · 10-10-2005, 06:21 AM

What servers do you guys frequent?

I go to DFL Legends,
=V9W= ,server
Trinity Games BoC squad,

JUst to name a few,

My name is CardinalTC

I want to change my name. But i guesss you need another email address.

Scorpion23 · 10-10-2005, 06:33 AM

I normally join whichever has the lowest ping, but now that they have favorites I might stay on one or two servers.

portwineboy · 10-11-2005, 05:03 AM

Yea I do the same thing as Scorpion23. Sort by ping, sometimes for 64 players, sometimes for 32.

WillyPete · 10-11-2005, 11:25 AM

I'm usually on th EA Europe or Multiplay UK servers.

Lasereth · 10-12-2005, 08:35 AM

I wish I could find a server that plays medium or large sized Sharqi Peninsula and a small-sized Strike at Karkand on repeat. I found a few that play similar versions, but those exactly are my favorite levels in the game. I got on one server a few days ago and played Sharqi Peninsula for hours. That map is AWESOME on medium/large. It's true infantry combat. Levels like Dragon Valley on large are annoying because it's a vehicle-fest. If there's gonna be massive levels with vast distances to travel to get to each flag, then there should be enough vehicles to transport the entire damned team. I hate sitting around waiting on a vehicle, and that seems to happen a lot on the large, open maps.

The close-quarters maps like Sharqi and Karkand offer action non-stop, with the flags being so close to each other that you can easily run the distance. The one server I found that plays the maps I want is always full, not to mention half the slots are reserved for clan members so I can't play on it anyway.

-Lasereth

Lasereth · 10-16-2005, 07:19 PM

I really think they stealth-nerfed the grenade launchers. I used to be insanely good with them before the patch and now my K : D ratio is going down. I even hit one guy in the CHEST with the M203 and it didn't kill him. Come on. They either nerfed the damage or nerfed the splash damage on them by around 25-50%. I'm starting to play medic a bit now as well. I got 28 revives on the last match I played.

There should be a defibrillator ribbon...I killed 6 people in the same round with the shock paddles. I want a reward!!

I imagine it would be rather embarassing to be killed by a medic running full steam ahead at you with shock paddles out. I got a few people while they were shooting at me.

I've started playing with a clan and I noticed one member had a really high score for how long he had been playing. I checked out his stats and he has like 2000 copter kills. Of course he's a chopper whore! He gets like 50-100 kills in the chopper on Sharqi and just plays it over and over to get more points. It's ridiculous. His kill streak is like 70 in the chopper.

I really like being the squad leader/medic combo. The medic gun is pretty damned good if you get used to single firing instead of going auto with it.

-Lasereth

Jinn · 10-17-2005, 12:56 PM

After 1.03 I've really been loving the unlocks. I was not impressed with the AT secondary when I got it for my first promotion, but now I've gotten a chance with the medic gun and the M95. Let me say, I fuckin' HATED sniping with the other two guns -- I felt so underpowered.

But damn, using the M95 on Wake or Karkand or Sharqi.. F - YES...

Anyone else enjoying the oodles of new unlocks?

Lasereth · 10-17-2005, 01:30 PM

So you're one of the sniping bastards with the M95.

I seriously hate snipers. I do my best to dodge the fuckers but on Sharqi it's nearly impossible. I make it a point to fire loads of SRAW and Eryx rockets up at the crane to piss them off.

I also like the unlocks, but I can definitely do without them if I had to. The M16 and AK series are still my favorite guns. Give me an M16 and M203 and I can take on an army.

-Lasereth

FngKestrel · 10-17-2005, 01:48 PM

So what cheeses me now is that I still can't install Battlefield to play it, but I gave Coppertop a copy and he installed it, but has yet to play it!

wolf · 10-23-2005, 07:39 PM

The one complaint I have about the new patch is the whole people in vehicles need to get out to get credit for flag captures. Why? It is almost discouraging being in a vehicle. I know it is more difficult for the driver since they had to drive there, and everyone else just sat there but it isn't easy to get out of the apache or blackhawks and get credit and try to get back in.

Dragonknight · 10-25-2005, 07:29 PM

It sounds like I have a lot of catching up to do. I haven't played in like two months (no internet at home). I can't wait though. Only a couple more days and I'll be playing again. I love this game.

Zeraph · 10-26-2005, 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by wolf

The one complaint I have about the new patch is the whole people in vehicles need to get out to get credit for flag captures. Why? It is almost discouraging being in a vehicle. I know it is more difficult for the driver since they had to drive there, and everyone else just sat there but it isn't easy to get out of the apache or blackhawks and get credit and try to get back in.

That's exactly why they did that, copters were too powerful at capping AND defending/offending. Theyre like jets that can cap.

09-26-2005, 09:35 PM	#162 (permalink)
Krycheck Sultana ruined my evil persona Location: Los Angeles	Well it looks like it's gonna be expensive for a BF2 server. a 24 player ranked server goes for about $98!! I'm gonna have to give that some more thought... __________________ His pants are tight...but his morals are loose!!

09-27-2005, 03:51 AM	#163 (permalink)
portwineboy Master of No Domains Location: WEEhawken, New Joisey	I don't see myself hitting anything past rank 4 either. I'm really torn between the G36 and the Jackhammer. I play medic and antitank mostly. My stats suck! (same tag if you want to look me up). My K/D ratio is .77 - too many drunk late night Fridays. I've noticed that I play MEC a lot...and I seem to lose a lot more when playing MEC. Does anyone else notice this? __________________ If you can read this, thank a teacher. If you can read this in English, thank a veteran.

09-27-2005, 09:57 AM	#166 (permalink)
Zeraph Banned Location: The Cosmos	Ya cap beat me to it, I've gotten upper 20s kill streaks, and I wasn't trying very hard. I could see a commander hiding out on a 64 map and getting that. Would still be hard, but possible. Those people with such scores seriously need to get a life. This game is just not that indepth to play that much and since stats don't actually mean anything.. It's funny, lately I've actually just been playing single player. It can still be a challenge, just in a different way. The NPCs shooting or tactics (or something, not sure) isnt as good as a players but they make up for it in other ways. But the nice thing is you can do whatever you want, no one camps the heli or the tank, don't have to worry about idiots TKing, can play what you want, when you want without having to search for it, no lag, don't have to worry about being kicked at the last part of the game because some admin is a jerk, etc. Last edited by Zeraph; 09-27-2005 at 02:50 PM..

10-04-2005, 03:45 AM	#169 (permalink)
portwineboy Master of No Domains Location: WEEhawken, New Joisey	1.3 Patch being released today (although not yet as of this post). No more TK from commander arty, kick vote requirements lowered, new map (Wake from BF1942), AA missiles do more damage...track better, drivers can now see passenger names, cap points have actual names, server favorites (finally) added and stat comparisons now available in the BFHQ menu. Weighs in at 175MB. Supposedly also (can't find this confirmed) helo passengers no longer get cap points for hover caps...pilots only. Lock n Load! __________________ If you can read this, thank a teacher. If you can read this in English, thank a veteran.

10-04-2005, 07:24 AM	#172 (permalink)
portwineboy Master of No Domains Location: WEEhawken, New Joisey	IGN via Shacknews __________________ If you can read this, thank a teacher. If you can read this in English, thank a veteran.

09-26-2005, 08:33 PM	#161 (permalink)
Caphreak Insane Location: Ames, IA	If you're going to call all those people stat-exploiters, you need to check out their stats a little. All of them have well over 600 hours played. I just ticked off the 100 hour mark, and i have a little over 12000 points. I score points about average(100/hr), but ive gone on a run where i score several hundred points in a night. Most of those people have more than 2000 matches played. Their stats are good, but there are exceptionally good people that play every game. A friend of mine, who plays no more than i do, but i play with him every night, has over 30,000 points in a little over a week of play time. I've never seen him exploit anything. I'm not saying there arent stats exploiters out there, but once you get into the bf2 community, you'll realize that some people are just that good.

09-27-2005, 05:20 AM	#165 (permalink)
Caphreak Insane Location: Ames, IA	A kill streak of 50 is a commander kill streak. Mine is 35 on karkand. On Karkand, with a good team, on a 64 player map, its incredibly easy to rack up 50 artillery kills. On a 32 player map, my average score on karkand is over 100. 64 would be even higher, but i hate playing 64 player. I'm sure they do things like armor whore, command a lot, heli-whore (nothing but flying and capping flags) but that doesnt really make it an exploit. Also, if you play at certain times of the day, (early morning US time) its easy to find a 64p map with like 10 people on it. You know how long it takes on some maps to work off 350 tickets? Enough to score a few hundred points for sure. I play with a group of about 20 people, former gaming clan, now just a casual clan, and several of us (not me) have high scores in the 300+ range. The only exploit i would accuse most of them for is multi-people on 1 account. I think i would develop gangrene in my legs if i played for more than 6 hours a day. I see the top user as 136,000? Is there somewhere else where people show as higher, into the 150k range?

09-27-2005, 10:38 AM	#167 (permalink)
Caphreak Insane Location: Ames, IA	Yeah, they definitely need to revamp the tk system. I dont deserve -20 points for some idiot with a full DPV driving into an arty that i just threw down. Can you play more than 8v8 in sp? I have pretty much only used SP to set up my PS2 controller to fly the jets, but i could see it being more fun if you could at least play 16v16.

09-27-2005, 02:50 PM	#168 (permalink)
Zeraph Banned Location: The Cosmos	Naw, only small maps, which sucks, but sometimes I feel like small maps anyway.

10-04-2005, 09:17 AM	#173 (permalink)
jvwgtr Completely bananas Location: Florida	Hooray!!! The patch is here!! I'm downloading it now...

10-04-2005, 10:01 AM	#174 (permalink)
Lasereth Knight of the Old Republic Location: Winston-Salem, NC	Downloading the patch at 10 KBps. WEEE!! Should be done in a few hours. It's a good thing I have work to do else I'd be mad for the terrible download speed. At least they're not releasing the patch to third party sites instead of hosting it themselves...BF1942 did this quite often, resulting in each player having to filter through a dozen (literally) sign-up membership sites just to download the damn patch. -Lasereth __________________ "A Darwinian attacks his theory, seeking to find flaws. An ID believer defends his theory, seeking to conceal flaws." -Roger Ebert

10-04-2005, 03:54 PM	#175 (permalink)
portwineboy Master of No Domains Location: WEEhawken, New Joisey	Promotion scores have been lowered. I made it to Sgt. almost automatically. 2 Unlocks! I never dreamed... __________________ If you can read this, thank a teacher. If you can read this in English, thank a veteran.

10-04-2005, 06:06 PM	#176 (permalink)
ObieX Pickles Location: Shirt and Pants (NJ)	heh i got like 4 promotions. and only 1 unlock (wtf?) __________________ We Must Dissent.

10-04-2005, 11:35 PM	#177 (permalink)
ObieX Pickles Location: Shirt and Pants (NJ)	hmm nm i guess it just took the other unlocks time to register or something __________________ We Must Dissent.

10-05-2005, 04:19 AM	#179 (permalink)
ObieX Pickles Location: Shirt and Pants (NJ)	nope i got them. i dunno why it took so long tho. the requirements that were changed is just the level of points you need. it only takes 8k now to get to gunnery sergeant, and 20k to get to the next one. they finally put in the 2 service ribbons for fareast/mideast. __________________ We Must Dissent.

10-05-2005, 06:42 AM	#180 (permalink)
Lasereth Knight of the Old Republic Location: Winston-Salem, NC	Wahoo!! Gunnery Sergeant Lasereth!! That was a pleasant surprise. I went from Lance Corporal to Corporal, to Sergeant, to Staff Sergeant, and then to Gunnery Sergeant in the same map. -Lasereth __________________ "A Darwinian attacks his theory, seeking to find flaws. An ID believer defends his theory, seeking to conceal flaws." -Roger Ebert

10-05-2005, 03:25 PM	#181 (permalink)
Lasereth Knight of the Old Republic Location: Winston-Salem, NC	Damn. I logged in today and found out that my stats weren't updated yet. I now have THREE unlocks!! I chose the G36C as the second unlock...I don't know what I'm gonna choose as my third. I'm thinking either the G3 or L85A1. I'll miss the grenade launcher if I get the G3, but the damn thing has the power of a heavy machine gun, without the terrible accuracy. Only a 20 round clip though. I don't play medic often (even though I enjoy it) so I'm not sure if I should get the L85A1. The rest of the guns aren't for me. I already have the JackHammer (MK3A1) so I don't need another shotgun. Decisions, decisions. EDIT I feel stupid. I unlocked the G3 just now and realized that I had 2 MORE unlocks on top of that one. Now I have the JackHammer, G36C, G3, L85A1, and DAO-12 unlocked. The rest are the guns I'd never get -- the PKM and the M95. I personally think the heavy assault (support) class is terrible...the accuracy is so bad on the PKM and M249 SAW that they're unusable, even at prone. I hate playing Sniper, so I'd never get the M95. They seriously need to give a little more accuracy to the PKM...that class is useless against most classes now. I played Heavy Assault with the PKM and M249 SAW in the Desert Combat mod for 1942, so it'd be really cool to go back to my "huge fucking gun" roots. -Lasereth __________________ "A Darwinian attacks his theory, seeking to find flaws. An ID believer defends his theory, seeking to conceal flaws." -Roger Ebert Last edited by Lasereth; 10-05-2005 at 04:08 PM..

10-07-2005, 07:57 AM	#184 (permalink)
WillyPete Addict	I agree, it would make for better team work to include some of the awards for promotion requirements, and change some of the awards so that they require 'team time' to be valid. It sucks playing commander on a 32 player server and seeing only one 3 man team to command. As for the weapon choices, I grabbed the m95. I often play a sniper and do as much spotting as the commander. I try and find a tower or overlooking spot near their chopper pads. I can shoot the pilot with 2 hits with the m95. They weren't joking when they said it can go through cockpits. Tip: keep the fire button pressed for that rifle and the anti-tank missile to avoid reloading and not seeing where your shot is placed. I wasted so many shots without knowing that. Lasereth, what's your id? me: http://bf2s.com/player/wp1969/ Last edited by WillyPete; 10-07-2005 at 08:00 AM..

10-07-2005, 08:07 AM	#185 (permalink)
Lasereth Knight of the Old Republic Location: Winston-Salem, NC	My ID is http://www.bf2s.com/player/lasereth/ . Many people don't know that if you keep the fire button held down for the anti-tank missile, you actually control where the rocket goes. I didn't figure that out for a while. -Lasereth __________________ "A Darwinian attacks his theory, seeking to find flaws. An ID believer defends his theory, seeking to conceal flaws." -Roger Ebert

10-07-2005, 09:28 AM	#186 (permalink)
Lasereth Knight of the Old Republic Location: Winston-Salem, NC	Wow. I started using the RPK-74 support machine gun and I think I like it. I've started getting into the habit of prone-firing, so now I don't have a hard time with accuracy. Just now I did a match on Karkand with the support gun and laid complete waste to the Americans. I think I might have broke my killing streak. I got 82 points with 39 kills on a single, 150 point Karkand map. It was great. My next unlock will definitely be the PKM (Desert Combat style ). -Lasereth __________________ "A Darwinian attacks his theory, seeking to find flaws. An ID believer defends his theory, seeking to conceal flaws." -Roger Ebert

10-07-2005, 10:14 AM	#187 (permalink)
Redjake I'm a family man - I run a family business. Location: Wilson, NC	Lasereth doesn't tell about his little "microphone fun" he has with the game. I am chillin' out doing homework or talking on AIM or something and I hear JESUS CHRIST GOOD SHOT SOLDIER!!!!!!!! and FIRE IN THE HOLE GOOD GOD!!!!!!! and shit like NORTH NORTHWEST WE GOT CHARLIE ALL OVER THE PLACE!!!!!!!! He enjoys the microphone, what can I say. Half the time I think he is talking to me, but nope, he's talking to the Squad. __________________ Off the record, on the q.t., and very hush-hush.

10-07-2005, 12:35 PM	#188 (permalink)
Caphreak Insane Location: Ames, IA	The patch is good, except i feel a little cheated. Me and my squad worked really hard to get all our ribbons/medals/unlocks (the far east and mid east service ribbons were always there, you just needed 250 global hours total before they would unlock) and now every nub and their brother has all those ribbons. I guess most of the changes in gameplay is ok, the promotion requirements are a little soft though.

10-10-2005, 06:21 AM	#189 (permalink)
Cardinal Syn Insane Location: Arizona	What servers do you guys frequent? I go to DFL Legends, =V9W= ,server Trinity Games BoC squad, JUst to name a few, My name is CardinalTC I want to change my name. But i guesss you need another email address.

10-10-2005, 06:33 AM	#190 (permalink)
Scorpion23 Psycho	I normally join whichever has the lowest ping, but now that they have favorites I might stay on one or two servers.

10-11-2005, 05:03 AM	#191 (permalink)
portwineboy Master of No Domains Location: WEEhawken, New Joisey	Yea I do the same thing as Scorpion23. Sort by ping, sometimes for 64 players, sometimes for 32. __________________ If you can read this, thank a teacher. If you can read this in English, thank a veteran.

10-11-2005, 11:25 AM	#192 (permalink)
WillyPete Addict	I'm usually on th EA Europe or Multiplay UK servers.

10-12-2005, 08:35 AM	#193 (permalink)
Lasereth Knight of the Old Republic Location: Winston-Salem, NC	I wish I could find a server that plays medium or large sized Sharqi Peninsula and a small-sized Strike at Karkand on repeat. I found a few that play similar versions, but those exactly are my favorite levels in the game. I got on one server a few days ago and played Sharqi Peninsula for hours. That map is AWESOME on medium/large. It's true infantry combat. Levels like Dragon Valley on large are annoying because it's a vehicle-fest. If there's gonna be massive levels with vast distances to travel to get to each flag, then there should be enough vehicles to transport the entire damned team. I hate sitting around waiting on a vehicle, and that seems to happen a lot on the large, open maps. The close-quarters maps like Sharqi and Karkand offer action non-stop, with the flags being so close to each other that you can easily run the distance. The one server I found that plays the maps I want is always full, not to mention half the slots are reserved for clan members so I can't play on it anyway. -Lasereth __________________ "A Darwinian attacks his theory, seeking to find flaws. An ID believer defends his theory, seeking to conceal flaws." -Roger Ebert

10-16-2005, 07:19 PM	#194 (permalink)
Lasereth Knight of the Old Republic Location: Winston-Salem, NC	I really think they stealth-nerfed the grenade launchers. I used to be insanely good with them before the patch and now my K : D ratio is going down. I even hit one guy in the CHEST with the M203 and it didn't kill him. Come on. They either nerfed the damage or nerfed the splash damage on them by around 25-50%. I'm starting to play medic a bit now as well. I got 28 revives on the last match I played. There should be a defibrillator ribbon...I killed 6 people in the same round with the shock paddles. I want a reward!! I imagine it would be rather embarassing to be killed by a medic running full steam ahead at you with shock paddles out. I got a few people while they were shooting at me. I've started playing with a clan and I noticed one member had a really high score for how long he had been playing. I checked out his stats and he has like 2000 copter kills. Of course he's a chopper whore! He gets like 50-100 kills in the chopper on Sharqi and just plays it over and over to get more points. It's ridiculous. His kill streak is like 70 in the chopper. I really like being the squad leader/medic combo. The medic gun is pretty damned good if you get used to single firing instead of going auto with it. -Lasereth __________________ "A Darwinian attacks his theory, seeking to find flaws. An ID believer defends his theory, seeking to conceal flaws." -Roger Ebert

10-17-2005, 12:56 PM	#195 (permalink)
Jinn Lover - Protector - Teacher Location: Seattle, WA	After 1.03 I've really been loving the unlocks. I was not impressed with the AT secondary when I got it for my first promotion, but now I've gotten a chance with the medic gun and the M95. Let me say, I fuckin' HATED sniping with the other two guns -- I felt so underpowered. But damn, using the M95 on Wake or Karkand or Sharqi.. F - YES... Anyone else enjoying the oodles of new unlocks? __________________ "I'm typing on a computer of science, which is being sent by science wires to a little science server where you can access it. I'm not typing on a computer of philosophy or religion or whatever other thing you think can be used to understand the universe because they're a poor substitute in the role of understanding the universe which exists independent from ourselves." - Willravel

10-17-2005, 01:30 PM	#196 (permalink)
Lasereth Knight of the Old Republic Location: Winston-Salem, NC	So you're one of the sniping bastards with the M95. I seriously hate snipers. I do my best to dodge the fuckers but on Sharqi it's nearly impossible. I make it a point to fire loads of SRAW and Eryx rockets up at the crane to piss them off. I also like the unlocks, but I can definitely do without them if I had to. The M16 and AK series are still my favorite guns. Give me an M16 and M203 and I can take on an army. -Lasereth __________________ "A Darwinian attacks his theory, seeking to find flaws. An ID believer defends his theory, seeking to conceal flaws." -Roger Ebert

10-17-2005, 01:48 PM	#197 (permalink)
FngKestrel Junkie	So what cheeses me now is that I still can't install Battlefield to play it, but I gave Coppertop a copy and he installed it, but has yet to play it!

10-23-2005, 07:39 PM	#198 (permalink)
wolf Ravenous Location: Right Behind You	The one complaint I have about the new patch is the whole people in vehicles need to get out to get credit for flag captures. Why? It is almost discouraging being in a vehicle. I know it is more difficult for the driver since they had to drive there, and everyone else just sat there but it isn't easy to get out of the apache or blackhawks and get credit and try to get back in. __________________ Thousands of years ago, cats were worshipped as Gods. Cats have never forgotten this.

10-25-2005, 07:29 PM	#199 (permalink)
Dragonknight Insane Location: Hawaii	It sounds like I have a lot of catching up to do. I haven't played in like two months (no internet at home). I can't wait though. Only a couple more days and I'll be playing again. I love this game.