The All Encompassing Star Wars Galaxies Thread - Tilted Forum Project Discussion Community

onezero1 · 06-18-2003, 06:02 PM

Ive been waiting for Swg for ages and im sick of all the other MMORPG atm. I have my sites on Swg and Im hopeing its not all fluff and is actully fun to play.......

Will SWG live up to the hype?

Why are all the recent MMORPG been Sub-Par?

Lark

Hydralisk · 06-18-2003, 06:09 PM

My friend had a beta of it at my LAN. He was showing it off to us and it looked fun. Being an FPS person myself, I'd have to say it looked a lot more interesting than Everquest. It looked like it had active battles.

NeverBorn · 06-18-2003, 06:21 PM

hopefully it won't suck, and with all the addons they have planned..they might as well call it Matrix v.1 for Star Wars people

thecow · 06-18-2003, 07:47 PM

I have some serious worries about it not being near ready to be put out, but of course I will still buy it and hope for the best. I have not yet tried any MMOGs yet, so this will be my first step into it. The only other one that peaks my interest is WOW, and I will definately try it when it is released.

Mr.Deflok · 06-18-2003, 08:09 PM

Well it doesn't get released to the world market until 12 months from the US release date so that's quite a bummer.

Nappa · 06-18-2003, 08:27 PM

Everything I've seen has me feeling pretty excited about the game. Not a big fan of MMORPGs in general, but if the Star Wars atmosphere is done well I'll probably get sucked into playing it.

El Conquistador · 06-19-2003, 06:14 AM

Back off, folks. My roomies have it, it's not looking all that appealing to me personally right now. You may also want to consider that at it's initial launch, you can expect some fairly heavy bugs as well as some SERIOUSLY swamped servers. Your best bet is to wait at least a month for the hype to die down, check the reviews, hit some forums, and see what the players think (keeping in mind that an MMORPG players favorite thing to do is to bitch about their MMORPG). Also, keep in mind that it's hitting the shelves in a matter of weeks and they still haven't lifted the NDA. Whaddup wit dat?

Nappa · 06-19-2003, 11:04 PM

Could you be a little more specific? Does the game seem totally hopeless or can you see it getting better with expansions?

Mr.Deflok · 06-20-2003, 02:32 AM

What species did you play as?
What planets did you go to?
What was your profession?
What were the graphics like?
What were the bugs you experienced?

You'd think that if someone were to post a thread about why they disliked a game they'd actually give clear reasons why.

Sparhawk · 06-20-2003, 08:44 AM

*sniff*

Please, no...

Prophecy · 06-20-2003, 09:47 AM

Wow, thats another person I've heard say this game sucks. The offical boards are split right now on this. Half the board seems to hate the game with a passion and the other half loves it. Unlike other games, I see no middle ground here...

portwineboy · 06-20-2003, 03:16 PM

I was in the beta as well and I didn't give it much time. I never played EQ but I played AO and E&B. I was quite bored with it after 4-5 hours of play. The graphics are amazing but I agree with Forks when he says it is like a huge chatroom. I thought AO, for all it's faults, did a better job of creating a sense of atmosphere. I didn't like the combat system very much and stopped playing pretty quickly. I'm certainly not an expert on this game, but I play a lot of games and this one didn't hold me.

GakFace · 06-20-2003, 03:59 PM

I heard that It takes forever to actually even Reach Jedi.. and once you do, You obtain the Perma-Death ability... Which sucks cause EVERYONE is out to kill.. NPCs and PC alike.. as PCs get great bonuses for killing a Jedi...

Yeah From what I heard, I lost any interest.. now it complete rubble (disentigrated Rubble even..)

twister002 · 06-22-2003, 06:25 AM

check out Penny Arcade (http://www.penny-arcade.com) for some of a beta testers thoughts about SWG. His bottom line, and he's a big Star Wars fan, was "it's like any other MMORPG, just with different creatures." He also said he might try it again when they have vehicles in it since running for an hour wasn't his idea of fun.

I also liked his comment about watching the 7 foot Wookie running from the rat, sad.

Kec · 06-22-2003, 07:17 AM

Far be it from me to violate an NDA or anything, but the only way I'd play this game as it is right now, was if someone else bought it, paid for it, and gave me at least 10,00 an hour to play it.

Funky Koval · 06-22-2003, 10:02 AM

LOLOLOLOLOL - predictable.
/sorry...

Mr.Deflok · 06-22-2003, 07:20 PM

I'm glad I'll never buy a game I have to pay to play. Besides, there're plenty of other great Star Wars games coming out very soon.

juanvaldes · 06-22-2003, 07:37 PM

I watched a friend "play" this game for a few hours a few weeks back and really does suck. Graphics are okay, nothing that outstanding from my POV. She played a artisien and spent hours running around a empty field kneeling down (a piller of light shot up into the sky there) and this was "mining". You could then take the minerals to a replicator machine to make stuff that you then just sold off.

I couldn't believe how bad it was. I really don't expect it to live long, but on the other hand there are plenty of star wars nuts who will stick it out I guess....

Jerpitcher · 06-22-2003, 10:23 PM

Thanks for the information everyone, I think it helps out considerably with people trying to make a decision on whether or not to buy this game when it comes out

Gortexfogg · 06-23-2003, 08:11 AM

I made the mistake of blowing $50 on Sims Online. I will not make that mistake again. Thanks for all the opinions.

freedomdowntime · 06-23-2003, 11:24 AM

The game is not bad. And yes, a wookie has to run from a white con rat. Sad as it may be. I like others have waited a long time for star wars galaxies. It will be the first mmo game I have ever owned. I am in the beta and as to Kec's comment the NDA has been lifted. I just can't put down the idea of having a rancor follow me around and beat stuff up. Not to count a dewback or any other tatoonie animal. =)

onezero1 · 06-23-2003, 12:55 PM

I got to play SWG at my friends house and to be honest I was Disappointed! Everything seemed really kool..But it just wasnt fun for me. "Shrug"
Back to Daoc I spose
LArk

darkmagex · 06-23-2003, 10:00 PM

they took out basically everything i thought would be cool about it, so maybe after a few expansions it'll be good, but then i'm gonna have to shell out quite a bit to get the game it should have been in the first place

Gman · 06-23-2003, 10:04 PM

I definately waiting on this one. Back around June of last year my friend and I were totally stoked about it. EVERYTHING sounded like it was going to be golden. But now it seems like the game has been chopped to death and is being rushed out because of all the delays it has suffered through.

My prediction is that SWG will be just like The Sims was. Not fun at first, but after about 2-3 expansion paks, it'll be one hell of a ride.

MichaelFarker · 06-24-2003, 10:35 AM

It's going to be dissapointing. Nothing can match all this hype. I've been let down by recent MMORPG releases. I think it's the focus on graphics and "atmosphere" over gameplay.

mrquackers · 06-24-2003, 05:31 PM

I, too, was in the beta. Seems like I spent more time downloading patches than actually playing - but when I did play, it was mainly a lot of running from city to city and errand to errand. Where are the TIE fighters? Where are the X-Wings?

What? I have to wait an indeterminite amount of time for them - and likely pay more for the expansion pack?

Well, suffice it to say that even being allowed to play this for free wasn't worth my time. I pulled out of the beta and didn't regret it at all.

Zorgan · 06-24-2003, 10:47 PM

SW:G's launch will be roughly as smooth as AO's launch, with half the fun! Long, boring runs, a very poorly done melee system plus a not really entertaining ranged fighting system, forced use of classes that normally wouldn't be used (After fighting, you get "battle fatigue", and then have to go sit in a cantina and watch some entertainer dance with canned emotes. Woohoo.), no Jedis at launch because they can't figure out how to get them to work, no vehicles, no space. I'd call it EverQuest in space if the gameplay mechanics were half as good and if the gameplay itself was half as fun. Good eye candy though *shrugs* but like Kec said, I'm not touching it unless someone else buys it, gets me an advance of that first expansion, pays for the account, and pays me per hour to play it.

Yes, I was in the beta, so I'm not going by hearsay.

Congobongo · 06-24-2003, 10:56 PM

im in beta, and am having a good time.

Congobongo · 06-24-2003, 11:00 PM

hmm maybe because you are playing beta, there arn't enough people to create a community where there are crafters that you know. The atmosphere is pretty empty due to the fact that server population isn't that high.

Zorgan · 06-25-2003, 12:08 AM

Congo, have you ever done a MMO beta? Not to be insulting, so don't take me wrong please. Typically they start with small beta groups, gradually growing largely. Often the final phase is completely open to anyone (Examples: Anarchy Online, PlanetSide, etc), used for stress-testing as well as sheer numbers of people out there who might find bugs. SW:G skipped their final beta phase entirely to do a "Limited release"... nifty way of saying the few who get the game will be paying for the "final" beta phase.

I'm gonna back up all the claims - It's boring. There's little interaction. Looks pretty, plays bad. If you're a StarWars fan, the game quite possibly will put you in tears. If you're looking for a SciFi MMO I heartily suggest Anarchy Online, that game has come a long, long, long ways from it's initial release. As for SW:G.... No Jedis -at all- upon release, not just that it'll take you a long time to open up the option. Single-character-servers take a lot of the fun out for people like me who enjoy playing more than one character type. The lack of vehicles with the ungodly travel time is really not a smooth move. Forced downtime and complexity to a game is not a good thing. Making classes that weren't attractive to players because they weren't considered a lot of fun crucial to gameplay by forced interaction rather than making the classes enjoyable is a bad, bad idea. The game's not finished, and it's not fun.

Congo to address one last thing: If the game's not fun with a low population, it most likely won't be fun with a high population either. If the Beta testers don't like the game (And I'd be willing to say the majority don't) because of the gameplay and not the bugs that will happen in beta, then something is very wrong.

So much potential... so much wasted. I so much wanted to like SW:G and enjoy it, but I couldn't. Guess I'll just stick to EQ for my MMO fix till something better finally comes along.

freedomdowntime · 06-25-2003, 01:37 AM

Is it repeditive? yes and so is every other mmo game.
As to the comment about low ammout of people being fun compared to high ammout of people, I think that misses the point. SWG requires a large number of people for the economy to not be at a griding pace. I find the limited release distrubing. Getting your battle fitige healed takes a really short amount of time if you do whenever you get back into town. So, not much to complain about there. As to the errors, it is a friggin beta. Yes it is VERY close to release but it is still in beta form and any errors that are in the beta are (not) likely to be there in the final game. I don't understand some of the comments about the fighting system. To me it seems the same as every other mmo game's fighting system (not including planetside) needless to say it is, for the most part, boring.

freedomdowntime · 06-25-2003, 01:38 AM

For both sides of the debate........

nuff said'

ozzy · 06-25-2003, 06:39 PM

I hope its good. I've been waiting awhile...

healyk · 06-25-2003, 09:39 PM

A friend of mine who was in both the original EQ beta and the Star Wars beta told me that he's going back to playing EQ now that the SWG beta is over. I think I'll hold off.

florentina1614 · 06-25-2003, 09:39 PM

Dang, i wasn't planning on buying this game but was sorta interested on how it would turn out. It is really disappointing when such great possibilities are squandered. By the way, when does it come out?

Turtlez5 · 06-25-2003, 10:43 PM

I do beleive it comes out tomorrow June 26th. From what I read and heard from friends in Beta the game has lot of potenial. One friend said it was a combination of SB DaoC and AO all wrapped in one. Hopefully its taking the best from all those games. Best to wait till the general public and gaming websites have done reveiws before deciding if its good or bad. Might save you a few bucks too, but I mean its Star Wars who doesn't want to atleast check it out somehow.

That said I will still be waiting a month before I try it out I do not want to go through another period like I did with SB.

Parabola · 06-25-2003, 10:44 PM

I have been hearing a lot of negative things about this game. With Shadowlands coming out for AO I might just play that.

Arm · 06-25-2003, 11:24 PM

I too have been a tester since Beta 2...and boy, am I disappointed.

Even as an insanely hardcore Star Wars nerd, I found it impossible to keep an interest in the game... it's boring, even by mmo standards. I mean, it just seems like EQ in space - but without the captivating stuff EQ had.

The graphics are great for an mmo and the crafting system seems to be pretty nice (I've never been much for crafting though, so my opinion is limited to what little I have done in the past). Even with some of the little touches (everything from notable NPCs to monuments and such) it still does not feel like Star Wars, though.

Combat is lackluster, even more so than the standard "autoattack" systems of today. The special attacks lack even the flair and reactiveness of DAoC's combat styles. The fact that 99% of the camps are randomly generated also is a huge irritant to me - if SoE is gonna make me run across long stretches of land, they'd better freaking allow me to memorize mob camps so I can autorun around them while I get a soda / write a 50 page long paper...because I can tell you, for some of the mission's you'll get you WILL have time to do the latter. Running across the Juntland Wastes was really neat the first time, for the first 5 minutes...but after that, it steadily dropped in appeal - especially after some womp rats ganged up on me and killed me, stranding my body in the middle of nowhere.

That being said, I am definitely going to wait a few months to see what some of my friends in current mmorpgs say about the evolution of the game before I even consider buying it. There's obviously a ton of stuff I could say about the game, but these are just the things that popped to the top. I'm just gonna hold out for EQ2 and WoW, even though I am kind of disappointed in the current revalation that pvp will be a small part of the latter.

My recommendation to all of you is to wait - be it a month or 6 months. See what gets fixed, what gets changed and what gets completely ignored. I have no doubts that the game is quality (I mean, I am impressed with some of the content and depth of some features), but being a quality game does not increase how enjoyable playing it is.

bobstar · 06-25-2003, 11:32 PM

I didn't really like it.. I've played quite a few MMORPGs and this one isn't really appealing unless you're really into the Star Wars universe

TenDeuChen · 06-25-2003, 11:37 PM

$50 for the game...and then $144 to play it over a year...yep...George Lucas can get back to making Star Wars 3:I Still Need More Money...

j/k...i actually love all the star wars movies...

But nearly 200 bucks to play over a year...right...i'll buy an xbox and halo for that...

06-18-2003, 06:02 PM	#1 (permalink)
onezero1 Upright	Alot of MMORPG have bombed lately....Will SWG live up to the hype? Ive been waiting for Swg for ages and im sick of all the other MMORPG atm. I have my sites on Swg and Im hopeing its not all fluff and is actully fun to play....... Will SWG live up to the hype? Why are all the recent MMORPG been Sub-Par? Lark

06-20-2003, 08:44 AM	#10 (permalink)
Sparhawk Dubya Location: VA	sniff Please, no... __________________ "In Iraq, no doubt about it, it's tough. It's hard work. It's incredibly hard. It's - and it's hard work. I understand how hard it is. I get the casualty reports every day. I see on the TV screens how hard it is. But it's necessary work. We're making progress. It is hard work."

06-20-2003, 09:47 AM	#11 (permalink)
Prophecy Oracle & Apollyon Location: Limbus Patrum	Wow, thats another person I've heard say this game sucks. The offical boards are split right now on this. Half the board seems to hate the game with a passion and the other half loves it. Unlike other games, I see no middle ground here... __________________ La Disciplina È La Mia Spada, La Fede È Il Mio Schermo, Non salti Ciecamente In Incertezza, E Potete Raccogliere Le Ricompense.

06-20-2003, 03:16 PM	#12 (permalink)
portwineboy Master of No Domains Location: WEEhawken, New Joisey	I was in the beta as well and I didn't give it much time. I never played EQ but I played AO and E&B. I was quite bored with it after 4-5 hours of play. The graphics are amazing but I agree with Forks when he says it is like a huge chatroom. I thought AO, for all it's faults, did a better job of creating a sense of atmosphere. I didn't like the combat system very much and stopped playing pretty quickly. I'm certainly not an expert on this game, but I play a lot of games and this one didn't hold me. __________________ If you can read this, thank a teacher. If you can read this in English, thank a veteran.

06-20-2003, 03:59 PM	#13 (permalink)
GakFace Go Ninja, Go Ninja Go!! Location: IN, USA	I heard that It takes forever to actually even Reach Jedi.. and once you do, You obtain the Perma-Death ability... Which sucks cause EVERYONE is out to kill.. NPCs and PC alike.. as PCs get great bonuses for killing a Jedi... Yeah From what I heard, I lost any interest.. now it complete rubble (disentigrated Rubble even..) __________________ RoboBlaster: Welcome to the club! Not that I'm in the club. And there really isn'a a club in the first place. But if there was a club and if I was in it, I would definitely welcome you to it.

06-18-2003, 06:09 PM	#2 (permalink)
Hydralisk Upright	My friend had a beta of it at my LAN. He was showing it off to us and it looked fun. Being an FPS person myself, I'd have to say it looked a lot more interesting than Everquest. It looked like it had active battles.

06-18-2003, 06:21 PM	#3 (permalink)
NeverBorn I'm a pepper bitch..	hopefully it won't suck, and with all the addons they have planned..they might as well call it Matrix v.1 for Star Wars people

06-18-2003, 07:47 PM	#4 (permalink)
thecow Crazy Location: Fayetteville, AR	I have some serious worries about it not being near ready to be put out, but of course I will still buy it and hope for the best. I have not yet tried any MMOGs yet, so this will be my first step into it. The only other one that peaks my interest is WOW, and I will definately try it when it is released.

06-18-2003, 08:09 PM	#5 (permalink)
Mr.Deflok Blood + Fire Location: New Zealand	Well it doesn't get released to the world market until 12 months from the US release date so that's quite a bummer.

06-18-2003, 08:27 PM	#6 (permalink)
Nappa Tilted Location: behind you!!	Everything I've seen has me feeling pretty excited about the game. Not a big fan of MMORPGs in general, but if the Star Wars atmosphere is done well I'll probably get sucked into playing it.

06-19-2003, 06:14 AM	#7 (permalink)
El Conquistador Upright	Back off, folks. My roomies have it, it's not looking all that appealing to me personally right now. You may also want to consider that at it's initial launch, you can expect some fairly heavy bugs as well as some SERIOUSLY swamped servers. Your best bet is to wait at least a month for the hype to die down, check the reviews, hit some forums, and see what the players think (keeping in mind that an MMORPG players favorite thing to do is to bitch about their MMORPG). Also, keep in mind that it's hitting the shelves in a matter of weeks and they still haven't lifted the NDA. Whaddup wit dat?

06-19-2003, 11:04 PM	#8 (permalink)
Nappa Tilted Location: behind you!!	Could you be a little more specific? Does the game seem totally hopeless or can you see it getting better with expansions?

06-20-2003, 02:32 AM	#9 (permalink)
Mr.Deflok Blood + Fire Location: New Zealand	What species did you play as? What planets did you go to? What was your profession? What were the graphics like? What were the bugs you experienced? You'd think that if someone were to post a thread about why they disliked a game they'd actually give clear reasons why.

06-22-2003, 06:25 AM	#14 (permalink)
twister002 Crazy	check out Penny Arcade (http://www.penny-arcade.com) for some of a beta testers thoughts about SWG. His bottom line, and he's a big Star Wars fan, was "it's like any other MMORPG, just with different creatures." He also said he might try it again when they have vehicles in it since running for an hour wasn't his idea of fun. I also liked his comment about watching the 7 foot Wookie running from the rat, sad.

06-22-2003, 07:17 AM	#15 (permalink)
Kec Upright	Far be it from me to violate an NDA or anything, but the only way I'd play this game as it is right now, was if someone else bought it, paid for it, and gave me at least 10,00 an hour to play it.

06-22-2003, 10:02 AM	#16 (permalink)
Funky Koval Upright	LOLOLOLOLOL - predictable. /sorry...

06-22-2003, 07:20 PM	#17 (permalink)
Mr.Deflok Blood + Fire Location: New Zealand	I'm glad I'll never buy a game I have to pay to play. Besides, there're plenty of other great Star Wars games coming out very soon.

06-22-2003, 07:37 PM	#18 (permalink)
juanvaldes Banned Location: shittown, CA	I watched a friend "play" this game for a few hours a few weeks back and really does suck. Graphics are okay, nothing that outstanding from my POV. She played a artisien and spent hours running around a empty field kneeling down (a piller of light shot up into the sky there) and this was "mining". You could then take the minerals to a replicator machine to make stuff that you then just sold off. I couldn't believe how bad it was. I really don't expect it to live long, but on the other hand there are plenty of star wars nuts who will stick it out I guess....

06-22-2003, 10:23 PM	#19 (permalink)
Jerpitcher Crazy Location: Arizona	Thanks for the information everyone, I think it helps out considerably with people trying to make a decision on whether or not to buy this game when it comes out

06-23-2003, 08:11 AM	#20 (permalink)
Gortexfogg I and I Location: Stillwater, OK	I made the mistake of blowing $50 on Sims Online. I will not make that mistake again. Thanks for all the opinions.

06-23-2003, 11:24 AM	#21 (permalink)
freedomdowntime Banned	The game is not bad. And yes, a wookie has to run from a white con rat. Sad as it may be. I like others have waited a long time for star wars galaxies. It will be the first mmo game I have ever owned. I am in the beta and as to Kec's comment the NDA has been lifted. I just can't put down the idea of having a rancor follow me around and beat stuff up. Not to count a dewback or any other tatoonie animal. =)

06-23-2003, 12:55 PM	#22 (permalink)
onezero1 Upright	I got to play SWG at my friends house and to be honest I was Disappointed! Everything seemed really kool..But it just wasnt fun for me. "Shrug" Back to Daoc I spose LArk

06-23-2003, 10:00 PM	#23 (permalink)
darkmagex Loser Location: Rochester, NY	they took out basically everything i thought would be cool about it, so maybe after a few expansions it'll be good, but then i'm gonna have to shell out quite a bit to get the game it should have been in the first place

06-23-2003, 10:04 PM	#24 (permalink)
Gman Insane Location: Down South In Louisiana	I definately waiting on this one. Back around June of last year my friend and I were totally stoked about it. EVERYTHING sounded like it was going to be golden. But now it seems like the game has been chopped to death and is being rushed out because of all the delays it has suffered through. My prediction is that SWG will be just like The Sims was. Not fun at first, but after about 2-3 expansion paks, it'll be one hell of a ride.

06-24-2003, 10:35 AM	#25 (permalink)
MichaelFarker 2+2=5? Not again! Location: Dallas, Texas	It's going to be dissapointing. Nothing can match all this hype. I've been let down by recent MMORPG releases. I think it's the focus on graphics and "atmosphere" over gameplay.

06-24-2003, 05:31 PM	#26 (permalink)
mrquackers Exhausted Location: Northeastern US - please send help!	I, too, was in the beta. Seems like I spent more time downloading patches than actually playing - but when I did play, it was mainly a lot of running from city to city and errand to errand. Where are the TIE fighters? Where are the X-Wings? What? I have to wait an indeterminite amount of time for them - and likely pay more for the expansion pack? Well, suffice it to say that even being allowed to play this for free wasn't worth my time. I pulled out of the beta and didn't regret it at all. __________________ "If you're walking on thin ice, you may as well go ahead and dance."

06-24-2003, 10:47 PM	#27 (permalink)
Zorgan Upright	SW:G's launch will be roughly as smooth as AO's launch, with half the fun! Long, boring runs, a very poorly done melee system plus a not really entertaining ranged fighting system, forced use of classes that normally wouldn't be used (After fighting, you get "battle fatigue", and then have to go sit in a cantina and watch some entertainer dance with canned emotes. Woohoo.), no Jedis at launch because they can't figure out how to get them to work, no vehicles, no space. I'd call it EverQuest in space if the gameplay mechanics were half as good and if the gameplay itself was half as fun. Good eye candy though shrugs but like Kec said, I'm not touching it unless someone else buys it, gets me an advance of that first expansion, pays for the account, and pays me per hour to play it. Yes, I was in the beta, so I'm not going by hearsay.

06-24-2003, 10:56 PM	#28 (permalink)
Congobongo Crazy	im in beta, and am having a good time. __________________ i break for dinosaurs

06-24-2003, 11:00 PM	#29 (permalink)
Congobongo Crazy	hmm maybe because you are playing beta, there arn't enough people to create a community where there are crafters that you know. The atmosphere is pretty empty due to the fact that server population isn't that high. __________________ i break for dinosaurs

06-25-2003, 12:08 AM	#30 (permalink)
Zorgan Upright	Congo, have you ever done a MMO beta? Not to be insulting, so don't take me wrong please. Typically they start with small beta groups, gradually growing largely. Often the final phase is completely open to anyone (Examples: Anarchy Online, PlanetSide, etc), used for stress-testing as well as sheer numbers of people out there who might find bugs. SW:G skipped their final beta phase entirely to do a "Limited release"... nifty way of saying the few who get the game will be paying for the "final" beta phase. I'm gonna back up all the claims - It's boring. There's little interaction. Looks pretty, plays bad. If you're a StarWars fan, the game quite possibly will put you in tears. If you're looking for a SciFi MMO I heartily suggest Anarchy Online, that game has come a long, long, long ways from it's initial release. As for SW:G.... No Jedis -at all- upon release, not just that it'll take you a long time to open up the option. Single-character-servers take a lot of the fun out for people like me who enjoy playing more than one character type. The lack of vehicles with the ungodly travel time is really not a smooth move. Forced downtime and complexity to a game is not a good thing. Making classes that weren't attractive to players because they weren't considered a lot of fun crucial to gameplay by forced interaction rather than making the classes enjoyable is a bad, bad idea. The game's not finished, and it's not fun. Congo to address one last thing: If the game's not fun with a low population, it most likely won't be fun with a high population either. If the Beta testers don't like the game (And I'd be willing to say the majority don't) because of the gameplay and not the bugs that will happen in beta, then something is very wrong. So much potential... so much wasted. I so much wanted to like SW:G and enjoy it, but I couldn't. Guess I'll just stick to EQ for my MMO fix till something better finally comes along.

06-25-2003, 01:37 AM	#31 (permalink)
freedomdowntime Banned	Is it repeditive? yes and so is every other mmo game. As to the comment about low ammout of people being fun compared to high ammout of people, I think that misses the point. SWG requires a large number of people for the economy to not be at a griding pace. I find the limited release distrubing. Getting your battle fitige healed takes a really short amount of time if you do whenever you get back into town. So, not much to complain about there. As to the errors, it is a friggin beta. Yes it is VERY close to release but it is still in beta form and any errors that are in the beta are (not) likely to be there in the final game. I don't understand some of the comments about the fighting system. To me it seems the same as every other mmo game's fighting system (not including planetside) needless to say it is, for the most part, boring.

06-25-2003, 01:38 AM	#32 (permalink)
freedomdowntime Banned	For both sides of the debate........ nuff said'

06-25-2003, 06:39 PM	#33 (permalink)
ozzy Upright	I hope its good. I've been waiting awhile... __________________ End of Line...

06-25-2003, 09:39 PM	#34 (permalink)
healyk Upright	A friend of mine who was in both the original EQ beta and the Star Wars beta told me that he's going back to playing EQ now that the SWG beta is over. I think I'll hold off.

06-25-2003, 09:39 PM	#35 (permalink)
florentina1614 Upright	Dang, i wasn't planning on buying this game but was sorta interested on how it would turn out. It is really disappointing when such great possibilities are squandered. By the way, when does it come out?