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onezero1 06-18-2003 06:02 PM

Alot of MMORPG have bombed lately....Will SWG live up to the hype?
 
Ive been waiting for Swg for ages and im sick of all the other MMORPG atm. I have my sites on Swg and Im hopeing its not all fluff and is actully fun to play.......

Will SWG live up to the hype?

Why are all the recent MMORPG been Sub-Par?

Lark

Hydralisk 06-18-2003 06:09 PM

My friend had a beta of it at my LAN. He was showing it off to us and it looked fun. Being an FPS person myself, I'd have to say it looked a lot more interesting than Everquest. It looked like it had active battles.

NeverBorn 06-18-2003 06:21 PM

hopefully it won't suck, and with all the addons they have planned..they might as well call it Matrix v.1 for Star Wars people

thecow 06-18-2003 07:47 PM

I have some serious worries about it not being near ready to be put out, but of course I will still buy it and hope for the best. I have not yet tried any MMOGs yet, so this will be my first step into it. The only other one that peaks my interest is WOW, and I will definately try it when it is released.

Mr.Deflok 06-18-2003 08:09 PM

Well it doesn't get released to the world market until 12 months from the US release date so that's quite a bummer.

Nappa 06-18-2003 08:27 PM

Everything I've seen has me feeling pretty excited about the game. Not a big fan of MMORPGs in general, but if the Star Wars atmosphere is done well I'll probably get sucked into playing it.

El Conquistador 06-19-2003 06:14 AM

Back off, folks. My roomies have it, it's not looking all that appealing to me personally right now. You may also want to consider that at it's initial launch, you can expect some fairly heavy bugs as well as some SERIOUSLY swamped servers. Your best bet is to wait at least a month for the hype to die down, check the reviews, hit some forums, and see what the players think (keeping in mind that an MMORPG players favorite thing to do is to bitch about their MMORPG). Also, keep in mind that it's hitting the shelves in a matter of weeks and they still haven't lifted the NDA. Whaddup wit dat?

Nappa 06-19-2003 11:04 PM

Could you be a little more specific? Does the game seem totally hopeless or can you see it getting better with expansions?

Mr.Deflok 06-20-2003 02:32 AM

What species did you play as?
What planets did you go to?
What was your profession?
What were the graphics like?
What were the bugs you experienced?

You'd think that if someone were to post a thread about why they disliked a game they'd actually give clear reasons why.

Sparhawk 06-20-2003 08:44 AM

*sniff*

Please, no...

Prophecy 06-20-2003 09:47 AM

Wow, thats another person I've heard say this game sucks. The offical boards are split right now on this. Half the board seems to hate the game with a passion and the other half loves it. Unlike other games, I see no middle ground here...

portwineboy 06-20-2003 03:16 PM

I was in the beta as well and I didn't give it much time. I never played EQ but I played AO and E&B. I was quite bored with it after 4-5 hours of play. The graphics are amazing but I agree with Forks when he says it is like a huge chatroom. I thought AO, for all it's faults, did a better job of creating a sense of atmosphere. I didn't like the combat system very much and stopped playing pretty quickly. I'm certainly not an expert on this game, but I play a lot of games and this one didn't hold me.

GakFace 06-20-2003 03:59 PM

I heard that It takes forever to actually even Reach Jedi.. and once you do, You obtain the Perma-Death ability... Which sucks cause EVERYONE is out to kill.. NPCs and PC alike.. as PCs get great bonuses for killing a Jedi...

Yeah From what I heard, I lost any interest.. now it complete rubble (disentigrated Rubble even..)

twister002 06-22-2003 06:25 AM

check out Penny Arcade (http://www.penny-arcade.com) for some of a beta testers thoughts about SWG. His bottom line, and he's a big Star Wars fan, was "it's like any other MMORPG, just with different creatures." He also said he might try it again when they have vehicles in it since running for an hour wasn't his idea of fun.

I also liked his comment about watching the 7 foot Wookie running from the rat, sad.

Kec 06-22-2003 07:17 AM

Far be it from me to violate an NDA or anything, but the only way I'd play this game as it is right now, was if someone else bought it, paid for it, and gave me at least 10,00 an hour to play it.

Funky Koval 06-22-2003 10:02 AM

LOLOLOLOLOL - predictable.
/sorry...

Mr.Deflok 06-22-2003 07:20 PM

I'm glad I'll never buy a game I have to pay to play. Besides, there're plenty of other great Star Wars games coming out very soon.

juanvaldes 06-22-2003 07:37 PM

I watched a friend "play" this game for a few hours a few weeks back and really does suck. Graphics are okay, nothing that outstanding from my POV. She played a artisien and spent hours running around a empty field kneeling down (a piller of light shot up into the sky there) and this was "mining". You could then take the minerals to a replicator machine to make stuff that you then just sold off.

I couldn't believe how bad it was. I really don't expect it to live long, but on the other hand there are plenty of star wars nuts who will stick it out I guess....

Jerpitcher 06-22-2003 10:23 PM

Thanks for the information everyone, I think it helps out considerably with people trying to make a decision on whether or not to buy this game when it comes out

Gortexfogg 06-23-2003 08:11 AM

I made the mistake of blowing $50 on Sims Online. I will not make that mistake again. Thanks for all the opinions.

freedomdowntime 06-23-2003 11:24 AM

The game is not bad. And yes, a wookie has to run from a white con rat. Sad as it may be. I like others have waited a long time for star wars galaxies. It will be the first mmo game I have ever owned. I am in the beta and as to Kec's comment the NDA has been lifted. I just can't put down the idea of having a rancor follow me around and beat stuff up. Not to count a dewback or any other tatoonie animal. =)

onezero1 06-23-2003 12:55 PM

I got to play SWG at my friends house and to be honest I was Disappointed! Everything seemed really kool..But it just wasnt fun for me. "Shrug"
Back to Daoc I spose
LArk

darkmagex 06-23-2003 10:00 PM

they took out basically everything i thought would be cool about it, so maybe after a few expansions it'll be good, but then i'm gonna have to shell out quite a bit to get the game it should have been in the first place

Gman 06-23-2003 10:04 PM

I definately waiting on this one. Back around June of last year my friend and I were totally stoked about it. EVERYTHING sounded like it was going to be golden. But now it seems like the game has been chopped to death and is being rushed out because of all the delays it has suffered through.

My prediction is that SWG will be just like The Sims was. Not fun at first, but after about 2-3 expansion paks, it'll be one hell of a ride.

MichaelFarker 06-24-2003 10:35 AM

It's going to be dissapointing. Nothing can match all this hype. I've been let down by recent MMORPG releases. I think it's the focus on graphics and "atmosphere" over gameplay.

mrquackers 06-24-2003 05:31 PM

I, too, was in the beta. Seems like I spent more time downloading patches than actually playing - but when I did play, it was mainly a lot of running from city to city and errand to errand. Where are the TIE fighters? Where are the X-Wings?

What? I have to wait an indeterminite amount of time for them - and likely pay more for the expansion pack?

Well, suffice it to say that even being allowed to play this for free wasn't worth my time. I pulled out of the beta and didn't regret it at all.

Zorgan 06-24-2003 10:47 PM

SW:G's launch will be roughly as smooth as AO's launch, with half the fun! Long, boring runs, a very poorly done melee system plus a not really entertaining ranged fighting system, forced use of classes that normally wouldn't be used (After fighting, you get "battle fatigue", and then have to go sit in a cantina and watch some entertainer dance with canned emotes. Woohoo.), no Jedis at launch because they can't figure out how to get them to work, no vehicles, no space. I'd call it EverQuest in space if the gameplay mechanics were half as good and if the gameplay itself was half as fun. Good eye candy though *shrugs* but like Kec said, I'm not touching it unless someone else buys it, gets me an advance of that first expansion, pays for the account, and pays me per hour to play it.

Yes, I was in the beta, so I'm not going by hearsay.

Congobongo 06-24-2003 10:56 PM

im in beta, and am having a good time.

Congobongo 06-24-2003 11:00 PM

hmm maybe because you are playing beta, there arn't enough people to create a community where there are crafters that you know. The atmosphere is pretty empty due to the fact that server population isn't that high.

Zorgan 06-25-2003 12:08 AM

Congo, have you ever done a MMO beta? Not to be insulting, so don't take me wrong please. Typically they start with small beta groups, gradually growing largely. Often the final phase is completely open to anyone (Examples: Anarchy Online, PlanetSide, etc), used for stress-testing as well as sheer numbers of people out there who might find bugs. SW:G skipped their final beta phase entirely to do a "Limited release"... nifty way of saying the few who get the game will be paying for the "final" beta phase.

I'm gonna back up all the claims - It's boring. There's little interaction. Looks pretty, plays bad. If you're a StarWars fan, the game quite possibly will put you in tears. If you're looking for a SciFi MMO I heartily suggest Anarchy Online, that game has come a long, long, long ways from it's initial release. As for SW:G.... No Jedis -at all- upon release, not just that it'll take you a long time to open up the option. Single-character-servers take a lot of the fun out for people like me who enjoy playing more than one character type. The lack of vehicles with the ungodly travel time is really not a smooth move. Forced downtime and complexity to a game is not a good thing. Making classes that weren't attractive to players because they weren't considered a lot of fun crucial to gameplay by forced interaction rather than making the classes enjoyable is a bad, bad idea. The game's not finished, and it's not fun.

Congo to address one last thing: If the game's not fun with a low population, it most likely won't be fun with a high population either. If the Beta testers don't like the game (And I'd be willing to say the majority don't) because of the gameplay and not the bugs that will happen in beta, then something is very wrong.

So much potential... so much wasted. I so much wanted to like SW:G and enjoy it, but I couldn't. Guess I'll just stick to EQ for my MMO fix till something better finally comes along.

freedomdowntime 06-25-2003 01:37 AM

Is it repeditive? yes and so is every other mmo game.
As to the comment about low ammout of people being fun compared to high ammout of people, I think that misses the point. SWG requires a large number of people for the economy to not be at a griding pace. I find the limited release distrubing. Getting your battle fitige healed takes a really short amount of time if you do whenever you get back into town. So, not much to complain about there. As to the errors, it is a friggin beta. Yes it is VERY close to release but it is still in beta form and any errors that are in the beta are (not) likely to be there in the final game. I don't understand some of the comments about the fighting system. To me it seems the same as every other mmo game's fighting system (not including planetside) needless to say it is, for the most part, boring.

freedomdowntime 06-25-2003 01:38 AM

For both sides of the debate........

nuff said'

ozzy 06-25-2003 06:39 PM

I hope its good. I've been waiting awhile...

healyk 06-25-2003 09:39 PM

A friend of mine who was in both the original EQ beta and the Star Wars beta told me that he's going back to playing EQ now that the SWG beta is over. I think I'll hold off.

florentina1614 06-25-2003 09:39 PM

Dang, i wasn't planning on buying this game but was sorta interested on how it would turn out. It is really disappointing when such great possibilities are squandered. By the way, when does it come out?

Turtlez5 06-25-2003 10:43 PM

I do beleive it comes out tomorrow June 26th. From what I read and heard from friends in Beta the game has lot of potenial. One friend said it was a combination of SB DaoC and AO all wrapped in one. Hopefully its taking the best from all those games. Best to wait till the general public and gaming websites have done reveiws before deciding if its good or bad. Might save you a few bucks too, but I mean its Star Wars who doesn't want to atleast check it out somehow.

That said I will still be waiting a month before I try it out I do not want to go through another period like I did with SB.

Parabola 06-25-2003 10:44 PM

I have been hearing a lot of negative things about this game. With Shadowlands coming out for AO I might just play that.

Arm 06-25-2003 11:24 PM

I too have been a tester since Beta 2...and boy, am I disappointed.

Even as an insanely hardcore Star Wars nerd, I found it impossible to keep an interest in the game... it's boring, even by mmo standards. I mean, it just seems like EQ in space - but without the captivating stuff EQ had.

The graphics are great for an mmo and the crafting system seems to be pretty nice (I've never been much for crafting though, so my opinion is limited to what little I have done in the past). Even with some of the little touches (everything from notable NPCs to monuments and such) it still does not feel like Star Wars, though.

Combat is lackluster, even more so than the standard "autoattack" systems of today. The special attacks lack even the flair and reactiveness of DAoC's combat styles. The fact that 99% of the camps are randomly generated also is a huge irritant to me - if SoE is gonna make me run across long stretches of land, they'd better freaking allow me to memorize mob camps so I can autorun around them while I get a soda / write a 50 page long paper...because I can tell you, for some of the mission's you'll get you WILL have time to do the latter. Running across the Juntland Wastes was really neat the first time, for the first 5 minutes...but after that, it steadily dropped in appeal - especially after some womp rats ganged up on me and killed me, stranding my body in the middle of nowhere.

That being said, I am definitely going to wait a few months to see what some of my friends in current mmorpgs say about the evolution of the game before I even consider buying it. There's obviously a ton of stuff I could say about the game, but these are just the things that popped to the top. I'm just gonna hold out for EQ2 and WoW, even though I am kind of disappointed in the current revalation that pvp will be a small part of the latter.

My recommendation to all of you is to wait - be it a month or 6 months. See what gets fixed, what gets changed and what gets completely ignored. I have no doubts that the game is quality (I mean, I am impressed with some of the content and depth of some features), but being a quality game does not increase how enjoyable playing it is.

bobstar 06-25-2003 11:32 PM

I didn't really like it.. I've played quite a few MMORPGs and this one isn't really appealing unless you're really into the Star Wars universe

TenDeuChen 06-25-2003 11:37 PM

$50 for the game...and then $144 to play it over a year...yep...George Lucas can get back to making Star Wars 3:I Still Need More Money...

j/k...i actually love all the star wars movies...

But nearly 200 bucks to play over a year...right...i'll buy an xbox and halo for that...


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