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Old 07-01-2005, 12:18 AM   #41 (permalink)
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what if they legalized weed like regular cigarettes??

couldn't it be more controlled, like you could buy premium (canada's finest KGB) or you could buy generic (mexican brown crap)?
wouldn't you think the government would be interested in getting it off the black market & applying a tax to it, huh?
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Old 07-01-2005, 07:06 AM   #42 (permalink)
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Government Legalizes it, throws a heavy tax on it. With as many stoners as there are, we would be out of debt in 5 years. Hey, at least were doing our part, its patriotic.
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Old 07-01-2005, 07:45 AM   #43 (permalink)
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Ouch, if it helps I am one of those Right Wing Narrow Minded fucks that dont think this stuff should be legalized for dying people in great pain... if that makes any sense. hypocritical yes, stupid yes.
So, pray tell, why do you still hold that opinion? This isn't an attack, just a question.
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Old 07-01-2005, 08:38 AM   #44 (permalink)
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what if they legalized weed like regular cigarettes??

couldn't it be more controlled, like you could buy premium (canada's finest KGB) or you could buy generic (mexican brown crap)?
wouldn't you think the government would be interested in getting it off the black market & applying a tax to it, huh?
Because unfortunately there are still alot of people who see it as a terrible thing. These are the people who have bought into the propaganda spread by the government. There are several states that have decrimalized marijuana though, which means we are that much closer to having the law rewritten the way it should be. But, that is still quite a ways off unfortunately. Once people realize that it is not the devils weed and it won't turn their children into raving lunatics, then it will be decriminalized. Unfortunately, with the government still spreading its lies, I don't see that happening anytime soon. So, until it is, I'm going to sit here, smoking my illegal herb, trying to spread the word that it's not such a bad thing.
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Old 07-01-2005, 10:26 AM   #45 (permalink)
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what if they legalized weed like regular cigarettes??

couldn't it be more controlled, like you could buy premium (canada's finest KGB) or you could buy generic (mexican brown crap)?
wouldn't you think the government would be interested in getting it off the black market & applying a tax to it, huh?


sure....but then i don't know what kinda shit johnny government is puttin in the weed to make it grow.

we use an organic feed for the first couple of weeks,then it's all about the water........clean pot bern.........no chemicals.

that's how i like it......so if it was decriminalized.....i'd still be able to have good clean pot,and.......the fuckin' government can't tax the piss outta me either.

either way........i'll still smoke my clean stuff.
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Old 07-01-2005, 11:32 AM   #46 (permalink)
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what if they legalized weed like regular cigarettes??

couldn't it be more controlled, like you could buy premium (canada's finest KGB) or you could buy generic (mexican brown crap)?
wouldn't you think the government would be interested in getting it off the black market & applying a tax to it, huh?
It would be nice if the government could slap a tax on it and control the market, but lets be realistic here, if cigarettes were insanely expensive, people would just go to their best friend the burnout and buy a pack at a cheaper price, sure it would be funny to see a bunch of tobacco growers sprout up in cities across the country, but the fact stands that it wouldnt be accepted well. If somehow the government was able to get a monopoly on the crop, and could keep control without fucking it up (almost an impossiblilty there), I'm afraid to say you would still have a few thousand idiots just like me running around, and it would quickly be stopped, eh bernadette .

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So, pray tell, why do you still hold that opinion? This isn't an attack, just a question.
Well. Im right wing, narrow minded, and I'm a fuck. Annnd I said it just cause of whoever it was that got all uppity about what I wrote before. My father, a doctor, works in pain management, he perscribes all of your heavy hitters, and he could legally perscribe Marijuana if he saw fit, he doesn't though. I've asked him about it before (if anyone knows about perscription drugs, its him, top of his profession, a respectable doctor in a field that has had more problems with MD's abusing their abilities) and basically, aside from the fact that its sort of a taboo approach to respectable medicine, the number of people who have Marijuana as their only option is small enough that the whole debate is little mroe than that, just talk. I understand that there ARE people who have nowhere else to turn, but with what I've learned from my father, the majority of people will use legal chemicals to curb their pain.

I am a user and have been for a while, but it isnt for everyone. I've gotten lucky so many times smoking this shit, and I'm sure most of you have as well. I mean I really hate to break it to ya, but there isn't much to discuss here, the numbers are far too small to make a difference either way. If Marijuana were legalized, or decriminalized, I dont think anybody could accurately show how it would all work out, not to mention, that the very possible abuse of its decriminalization would shadow any possible positive benifits (think Wellfare) You all get your weed no problems, if somebody has a terminal illness and needs something to stop the pain, they have multiple options to take, and uh, trust me, Morphine, Percocet, Methadone, Oxycotin, it isnt like that shit wont fuck you up. Think about it, weed is good, but interms of painkilling properties it pales in comparision to these others.

So yeah, basically I dont think it should be legallized for pain issues, there are far better options. If it is your only option, then your going to get it anyways just as all of you will always be able to get ahold of the greens. If anyone can set precedent of a place that has thrived with widespread Marijuana consumption, please post a link. Amsterdam is either a shithole or a nice place to visit, depending on which bias internet blog/article you decided to read up on so I think three should be something better than that. Call me hypocritical but they could make punishment death and people would still get their fix, legalizing is too risky, besides, your supposed to be stoners, you shouldnt be worried about current events, there are cartoons to be watched, cereal to be eaten in 3 day old underwear, sheesh.

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oh yeah, and if anyone wants to see the numbers, I can throw them in as well, I just didn't have time to do it right now. Oh, and here, I found this:

Prove I look at both sides.
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Old 07-01-2005, 11:45 AM   #47 (permalink)
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if somebody has a terminal illness and needs something to stop the pain, they have multiple options to take, and uh, trust me, Morphine, Percocet, Methadone, Oxycotin, it isnt like that shit wont fuck you up. Think about it, weed is good, but interms of painkilling properties it pales in comparision to these others.

So yeah, basically I dont think it should be legallized for pain issues, there are far better options
I'm probably the exact opposite of you. I have never used weed, any illegal drug, or any narcotic-level prescription drug; I'm just not interested. And I look at that list and think, if those are legal to prescribe, why isn't weed?
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Old 07-01-2005, 11:53 AM   #48 (permalink)
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I'm probably the exact opposite of you. I have never used weed, any illegal drug, or any narcotic-level prescription drug; I'm just not interested. And I look at that list and think, if those are legal to prescribe, why isn't weed?
Well again, depending on which magazine you read, the road you took could be seen as great or not so great. As in you dont have experience with these drugs, but that misunderstanding could also lead you to draw an opinion on a drug without knowing about it. Those drugs I was talking about are perscribed, if you dont abuse them and use them like they are supposed to be used, they can be life savers beyond anything else. When your on a painkiller like these btw, I dont think your going to be doing too much anyways, you usually just sit around, its sad enough that a person has to use these, it would only be worse if you turned to weed. I've smoked Weed and been unable to move I was so relaxed, and I've smoked weed and bounced off the walls, thats just me though.
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Old 07-01-2005, 04:49 PM   #49 (permalink)
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if somebody has a terminal illness and needs something to stop the pain, they have multiple options to take, and uh, trust me, Morphine, Percocet, Methadone, Oxycotin, it isnt like that shit wont fuck you up. Think about it, weed is good, but interms of painkilling properties it pales in comparision to these others.
It is not nesecarily for just pain management. It can also help to curb loss of appetite from other prescription drugs.
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Old 07-02-2005, 12:42 PM   #50 (permalink)
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oh, it will curb your loss of appetite alright. (sits gazing over his pile of Taco Bell) I know that feeling quite well. Well still, the number of people that have to deal with this problem is small, made so by the fact that still people think Weed is too unacceptable in our culture. If Weed didnt have such a bad rep, it might become more widespread for pain issues, but again, it isnt for everyone.
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Old 07-18-2005, 03:54 PM   #51 (permalink)
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Old 07-18-2005, 05:05 PM   #52 (permalink)
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They give one of the kids I work with Marinol, the gee-sorry-kiddo-it-won't-make-you-high-but-maybe-you'll-quit-puking-your-guts-out-from-the-chemo stuff. It works like a charm... And believe you me, he figures out how to get himself high with it. Just a few extra pills a day when you're on treatment and it's golden. I don't begrudge him any of it. He's injesting poison that requires universal precautions to even handle his body fluids because he's toxic to the rest of us. For those people when nothing else works and they're dying anyway can it really be that bad? This kid's going to be lucky to last another year seeing that they gave him a month, tops, in January. C'mon, now. It really improves his mood, appetite and memory. He even has fun once in awhile. The kid's ADHD beyond a lot of what I've seen before but somehow manages to function perfectly well, if not better, on the Marinol. And yet the docs are afraid to prescribe it.

I've used it and never really got anything out of it until brownies a few weeks ago. Whoo, man. Decriminalize it, legalize it, just prescribe it.
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