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amonkie · 08-18-2010, 08:07 AM

Nope.. this particular mine was made famous by an event that is also currently happening at a place that smells like apples in Western New York...right next door to a sprinkles factory, no less!

Tully Mars · 08-18-2010, 08:11 AM

Jerome?

amonkie · 08-18-2010, 08:13 AM

Getting closer.. but no. go the other direction...

Tully Mars · 08-18-2010, 08:15 AM

Sunflower Mine

amonkie · 08-18-2010, 08:23 AM

MORE South... and maybe a little east.

BadNick · 08-18-2010, 08:24 AM

Mamouth Gold Mine?

amonkie · 08-18-2010, 08:25 AM

M's the word.. but not Mamouth.

See my previous post for a clue..

BadNick · 08-18-2010, 08:27 AM

maybe Morenci?

Tully Mars · 08-18-2010, 08:29 AM

San Manuel?

amonkie · 08-18-2010, 08:31 AM

Bad Nick got it with Morenci Mine... my dad worked for Phelps Dodge until this all went down.

Quote:

On April 7, 1982, Phelps Dodge announced it would lay off 3,400 of its workers in Texas and Arizona.

Over one year later, in May 1983, the copper mining company began negotiations with the United Steelworkers and other unions in Phoenix, Arizona. The unions agreed to a freeze of their members' wages for three years, but attempted to bargain for Cost of Living Adjustments (COLA) and to prevent job combinations[2]. In recent years, similar agreements had been accepted by other mining corporations, including Kennecott, Asarco, Magma Copper, and Inspiration Consolidated Copper. However, Phelps Dodge was facing competition from overseas producers during a particularly low period of metals pricing. Increased media scrutiny, highlighted by the July 1983 cover of Business Week, declaring a "Management Crisis at Phelps Dodge", implicated chairman George B. Munroe in the company's financial woes.

The subsequent negotiations with the unions failed to lead to an agreement, and on midnight of July 30 a strike began, including workers from Morenci, Ajo, Clifton, and Douglas, Arizona. Thousands of miners walked out and a picket line was formed at the Morenci Mine. The next day, Phelps Dodge increased security personnel in and around the mine. Within days miners were subject to unlawful arrests, firings, evictions, and undercover surveillance by the Arizona Criminal Intelligence Systems Agency[3]. At the beginning of August, Phelps Dodge announced that they would be hiring permanent replacement workers for the Morenci Mine. The company took out large employment ads for new workers in the Tucson and Phoenix newspapers. Meanwhile, the local government passed injunctions limiting both picketing and demonstrations at the mine.

On Monday, August 8, approximately 1,000 strikers and their supporters gathered at the gate to the mine in response. Phelps Dodge stopped production and, later that day, Arizona Governor Bruce Babbitt flew in to meet with the company. Phelps Dodge agreed to a 10-day moratorium on hiring replacement workers, and it was decided that a federal mediator would be called in for negotiations.

On the morning of August 19, military vehicles, tanks, helicopters, 426 state troopers and 325 National Guard members arrived in Clifton and Morenci as part of "Operation Copper Nugget" to break the strike. Strikers at the gate were unable to prevent the replacement workers from entering the mine. Eight days later, 10 strikers were arrested in Ajo and charged with rioting. From this point on, the strike lost much of its momentum.

After a series of confrontations and controversies, the strike officially ended on February 19, 1986, when the National Labor Relations Board rejected appeals from the unions attempting to halt decertification.

BadNick · 08-18-2010, 08:31 AM

Mowry? ...nevermind.

Phelps Dodge must have had other operations besides mines since I sort of recall getting steel castings from them back in the late 1970's.

I've had this place in mind for my next turn ...so where in the world am I?

Tully Mars · 08-18-2010, 08:35 AM

BadNick · 08-18-2010, 08:41 AM

uncle phil · 08-18-2010, 08:43 AM

USofA?

BadNick · 08-18-2010, 08:48 AM

yes

It's raining so I'm planning a long walk on the beach, in the rain, soon. If I get too wet, I'll jump in the ocean and wash it off and start again.

uncle phil · 08-18-2010, 09:26 AM

east of mrs.?

BadNick · 08-18-2010, 08:46 PM

west of mrs. & north of the 40

sort of a big clue: this place has continental significance

Tully Mars · 08-19-2010, 01:31 AM

On a mountain?

uncle phil · 08-19-2010, 02:42 AM

continental divide?

BadNick · 08-19-2010, 10:02 AM

not on a mountain, and a few hundred miles east of the continental divide

uncle phil · 08-19-2010, 01:14 PM

in minnesota?

BadNick · 08-19-2010, 01:26 PM

not in MN

uncle phil · 08-19-2010, 01:44 PM

NoDak?

BadNick · 08-19-2010, 09:12 PM

YesDak!

I'm in ND...continental significance

uncle phil · 08-20-2010, 03:01 AM

are you in rugby?

BadNick · 08-20-2010, 08:19 AM

Ya got me! Rugby is sometimes considered the "geographic center of North America" and there is a monument there, see below. Balta ND might contest that since they are officially closer.

In 1931, the town of Rugby erected a 15 feet (4.6 m) tall rock obelisk marking the "Geographical Center of North America". This was moved to a slightly different location in or after 1971. According to a listing by the U.S. Geological Survey, Rugby is actually approximately 15 miles (24 km) from the geographic center of North America [6 miles (9.7 km)] west of Balta), and even this designation carries no official status.

uncle phil · 08-20-2010, 08:21 AM

balta was my next guess...

i'll come up with someplace after golf. probably tomorrow...

BadNick · 08-20-2010, 08:23 AM

hope you have a couple good rounds

uncle phil · 08-20-2010, 03:36 PM

ok, find me...

Tully Mars · 08-20-2010, 03:38 PM

St. Cloud, Minnesota?

uncle phil · 08-20-2010, 04:25 PM

not even close...

Tully Mars · 08-20-2010, 04:26 PM

uncle phil · 08-20-2010, 04:29 PM

eh...

Tully Mars · 08-20-2010, 04:29 PM

uncle phil · 08-20-2010, 04:38 PM

nh...

Tully Mars · 08-20-2010, 04:39 PM

Asia?

uncle phil · 08-20-2010, 04:39 PM

nope...

Tully Mars · 08-20-2010, 04:40 PM

Europe?

uncle phil · 08-20-2010, 04:45 PM

nope..

Tully Mars · 08-20-2010, 04:45 PM

Middle East?

08-18-2010, 08:07 AM	#10801 (permalink)
amonkie Drifting Administrator Location: Windy City	Nope.. this particular mine was made famous by an event that is also currently happening at a place that smells like apples in Western New York...right next door to a sprinkles factory, no less! __________________ Calling from deep in the heart, from where the eyes can't see and the ears can't hear, from where the mountain trails end and only love can go... ~~~ Three Rivers Hare Krishna

08-18-2010, 08:11 AM	#10802 (permalink)
Tully Mars Living in a Warmer Insanity Super Moderator Location: Yucatan, Mexico	Jerome? __________________ I used to drink to drown my sorrows, but the damned things have learned how to swim- Frida Kahlo Vice President Starkizzer Fan Club

08-18-2010, 08:13 AM	#10803 (permalink)
amonkie Drifting Administrator Location: Windy City	Getting closer.. but no. go the other direction... __________________ Calling from deep in the heart, from where the eyes can't see and the ears can't hear, from where the mountain trails end and only love can go... ~~~ Three Rivers Hare Krishna

08-18-2010, 08:15 AM	#10804 (permalink)
Tully Mars Living in a Warmer Insanity Super Moderator Location: Yucatan, Mexico	Sunflower Mine __________________ I used to drink to drown my sorrows, but the damned things have learned how to swim- Frida Kahlo Vice President Starkizzer Fan Club

08-18-2010, 08:23 AM	#10805 (permalink)
amonkie Drifting Administrator Location: Windy City	MORE South... and maybe a little east. __________________ Calling from deep in the heart, from where the eyes can't see and the ears can't hear, from where the mountain trails end and only love can go... ~~~ Three Rivers Hare Krishna

08-18-2010, 08:24 AM	#10806 (permalink)
BadNick Riding the Ocean Spray Location: S.E. PA in U Sofa	Mamouth Gold Mine?

08-18-2010, 08:25 AM	#10807 (permalink)
amonkie Drifting Administrator Location: Windy City	M's the word.. but not Mamouth. See my previous post for a clue.. __________________ Calling from deep in the heart, from where the eyes can't see and the ears can't hear, from where the mountain trails end and only love can go... ~~~ Three Rivers Hare Krishna

08-18-2010, 08:27 AM	#10808 (permalink)
BadNick Riding the Ocean Spray Location: S.E. PA in U Sofa	maybe Morenci?

08-18-2010, 08:29 AM	#10809 (permalink)
Tully Mars Living in a Warmer Insanity Super Moderator Location: Yucatan, Mexico	San Manuel? __________________ I used to drink to drown my sorrows, but the damned things have learned how to swim- Frida Kahlo Vice President Starkizzer Fan Club

08-18-2010, 08:31 AM	#10811 (permalink)
BadNick Riding the Ocean Spray Location: S.E. PA in U Sofa	Mowry? ...nevermind. Phelps Dodge must have had other operations besides mines since I sort of recall getting steel castings from them back in the late 1970's. I've had this place in mind for my next turn ...so where in the world am I? Last edited by BadNick; 08-18-2010 at 08:33 AM..

08-18-2010, 08:35 AM	#10812 (permalink)
Tully Mars Living in a Warmer Insanity Super Moderator Location: Yucatan, Mexico	NH? __________________ I used to drink to drown my sorrows, but the damned things have learned how to swim- Frida Kahlo Vice President Starkizzer Fan Club

08-18-2010, 08:41 AM	#10813 (permalink)
BadNick Riding the Ocean Spray Location: S.E. PA in U Sofa	yes

08-18-2010, 08:43 AM	#10814 (permalink)
uncle phil comfortably numb... Super Moderator Location: upstate	USofA? __________________ "We were wrong, terribly wrong. (We) should not have tried to fight a guerrilla war with conventional military tactics against a foe willing to absorb enormous casualties...in a country lacking the fundamental political stability necessary to conduct effective military and pacification operations. It could not be done and it was not done." - Robert S. McNamara ----------------------------------------- "We will take our napalm and flame throwers out of the land that scarcely knows the use of matches... We will leave you your small joys and smaller troubles." - Eugene McCarthy in "Vietnam Message" ----------------------------------------- never wrestle with a pig. you both get dirty; the pig likes it.

08-18-2010, 08:48 AM	#10815 (permalink)
BadNick Riding the Ocean Spray Location: S.E. PA in U Sofa	yes It's raining so I'm planning a long walk on the beach, in the rain, soon. If I get too wet, I'll jump in the ocean and wash it off and start again.

08-18-2010, 09:26 AM	#10816 (permalink)
uncle phil comfortably numb... Super Moderator Location: upstate	east of mrs.? __________________ "We were wrong, terribly wrong. (We) should not have tried to fight a guerrilla war with conventional military tactics against a foe willing to absorb enormous casualties...in a country lacking the fundamental political stability necessary to conduct effective military and pacification operations. It could not be done and it was not done." - Robert S. McNamara ----------------------------------------- "We will take our napalm and flame throwers out of the land that scarcely knows the use of matches... We will leave you your small joys and smaller troubles." - Eugene McCarthy in "Vietnam Message" ----------------------------------------- never wrestle with a pig. you both get dirty; the pig likes it.

08-18-2010, 08:46 PM	#10817 (permalink)
BadNick Riding the Ocean Spray Location: S.E. PA in U Sofa	west of mrs. & north of the 40 sort of a big clue: this place has continental significance

08-19-2010, 01:31 AM	#10818 (permalink)
Tully Mars Living in a Warmer Insanity Super Moderator Location: Yucatan, Mexico	On a mountain? __________________ I used to drink to drown my sorrows, but the damned things have learned how to swim- Frida Kahlo Vice President Starkizzer Fan Club

08-19-2010, 02:42 AM	#10819 (permalink)
uncle phil comfortably numb... Super Moderator Location: upstate	continental divide? __________________ "We were wrong, terribly wrong. (We) should not have tried to fight a guerrilla war with conventional military tactics against a foe willing to absorb enormous casualties...in a country lacking the fundamental political stability necessary to conduct effective military and pacification operations. It could not be done and it was not done." - Robert S. McNamara ----------------------------------------- "We will take our napalm and flame throwers out of the land that scarcely knows the use of matches... We will leave you your small joys and smaller troubles." - Eugene McCarthy in "Vietnam Message" ----------------------------------------- never wrestle with a pig. you both get dirty; the pig likes it.

08-19-2010, 10:02 AM	#10820 (permalink)
BadNick Riding the Ocean Spray Location: S.E. PA in U Sofa	not on a mountain, and a few hundred miles east of the continental divide

08-19-2010, 01:14 PM	#10821 (permalink)
uncle phil comfortably numb... Super Moderator Location: upstate	in minnesota? __________________ "We were wrong, terribly wrong. (We) should not have tried to fight a guerrilla war with conventional military tactics against a foe willing to absorb enormous casualties...in a country lacking the fundamental political stability necessary to conduct effective military and pacification operations. It could not be done and it was not done." - Robert S. McNamara ----------------------------------------- "We will take our napalm and flame throwers out of the land that scarcely knows the use of matches... We will leave you your small joys and smaller troubles." - Eugene McCarthy in "Vietnam Message" ----------------------------------------- never wrestle with a pig. you both get dirty; the pig likes it.

08-19-2010, 01:26 PM	#10822 (permalink)
BadNick Riding the Ocean Spray Location: S.E. PA in U Sofa	not in MN

08-19-2010, 01:44 PM	#10823 (permalink)
uncle phil comfortably numb... Super Moderator Location: upstate	NoDak? __________________ "We were wrong, terribly wrong. (We) should not have tried to fight a guerrilla war with conventional military tactics against a foe willing to absorb enormous casualties...in a country lacking the fundamental political stability necessary to conduct effective military and pacification operations. It could not be done and it was not done." - Robert S. McNamara ----------------------------------------- "We will take our napalm and flame throwers out of the land that scarcely knows the use of matches... We will leave you your small joys and smaller troubles." - Eugene McCarthy in "Vietnam Message" ----------------------------------------- never wrestle with a pig. you both get dirty; the pig likes it.

08-19-2010, 09:12 PM	#10824 (permalink)
BadNick Riding the Ocean Spray Location: S.E. PA in U Sofa	YesDak! I'm in ND...continental significance

08-20-2010, 03:01 AM	#10825 (permalink)
uncle phil comfortably numb... Super Moderator Location: upstate	are you in rugby? __________________ "We were wrong, terribly wrong. (We) should not have tried to fight a guerrilla war with conventional military tactics against a foe willing to absorb enormous casualties...in a country lacking the fundamental political stability necessary to conduct effective military and pacification operations. It could not be done and it was not done." - Robert S. McNamara ----------------------------------------- "We will take our napalm and flame throwers out of the land that scarcely knows the use of matches... We will leave you your small joys and smaller troubles." - Eugene McCarthy in "Vietnam Message" ----------------------------------------- never wrestle with a pig. you both get dirty; the pig likes it.

08-20-2010, 08:19 AM	#10826 (permalink)
BadNick Riding the Ocean Spray Location: S.E. PA in U Sofa	Ya got me! Rugby is sometimes considered the "geographic center of North America" and there is a monument there, see below. Balta ND might contest that since they are officially closer. In 1931, the town of Rugby erected a 15 feet (4.6 m) tall rock obelisk marking the "Geographical Center of North America". This was moved to a slightly different location in or after 1971. According to a listing by the U.S. Geological Survey, Rugby is actually approximately 15 miles (24 km) from the geographic center of North America [6 miles (9.7 km)] west of Balta), and even this designation carries no official status.

08-20-2010, 08:21 AM	#10827 (permalink)
uncle phil comfortably numb... Super Moderator Location: upstate	balta was my next guess... i'll come up with someplace after golf. probably tomorrow... __________________ "We were wrong, terribly wrong. (We) should not have tried to fight a guerrilla war with conventional military tactics against a foe willing to absorb enormous casualties...in a country lacking the fundamental political stability necessary to conduct effective military and pacification operations. It could not be done and it was not done." - Robert S. McNamara ----------------------------------------- "We will take our napalm and flame throwers out of the land that scarcely knows the use of matches... We will leave you your small joys and smaller troubles." - Eugene McCarthy in "Vietnam Message" ----------------------------------------- never wrestle with a pig. you both get dirty; the pig likes it.

08-20-2010, 08:23 AM	#10828 (permalink)
BadNick Riding the Ocean Spray Location: S.E. PA in U Sofa	hope you have a couple good rounds

08-20-2010, 03:36 PM	#10829 (permalink)
uncle phil comfortably numb... Super Moderator Location: upstate	ok, find me... __________________ "We were wrong, terribly wrong. (We) should not have tried to fight a guerrilla war with conventional military tactics against a foe willing to absorb enormous casualties...in a country lacking the fundamental political stability necessary to conduct effective military and pacification operations. It could not be done and it was not done." - Robert S. McNamara ----------------------------------------- "We will take our napalm and flame throwers out of the land that scarcely knows the use of matches... We will leave you your small joys and smaller troubles." - Eugene McCarthy in "Vietnam Message" ----------------------------------------- never wrestle with a pig. you both get dirty; the pig likes it.

08-20-2010, 03:38 PM	#10830 (permalink)
Tully Mars Living in a Warmer Insanity Super Moderator Location: Yucatan, Mexico	St. Cloud, Minnesota? __________________ I used to drink to drown my sorrows, but the damned things have learned how to swim- Frida Kahlo Vice President Starkizzer Fan Club

08-20-2010, 04:25 PM	#10831 (permalink)
uncle phil comfortably numb... Super Moderator Location: upstate	not even close... __________________ "We were wrong, terribly wrong. (We) should not have tried to fight a guerrilla war with conventional military tactics against a foe willing to absorb enormous casualties...in a country lacking the fundamental political stability necessary to conduct effective military and pacification operations. It could not be done and it was not done." - Robert S. McNamara ----------------------------------------- "We will take our napalm and flame throwers out of the land that scarcely knows the use of matches... We will leave you your small joys and smaller troubles." - Eugene McCarthy in "Vietnam Message" ----------------------------------------- never wrestle with a pig. you both get dirty; the pig likes it.

08-20-2010, 04:26 PM	#10832 (permalink)
Tully Mars Living in a Warmer Insanity Super Moderator Location: Yucatan, Mexico	EH? __________________ I used to drink to drown my sorrows, but the damned things have learned how to swim- Frida Kahlo Vice President Starkizzer Fan Club

08-20-2010, 04:29 PM	#10833 (permalink)
uncle phil comfortably numb... Super Moderator Location: upstate	eh... __________________ "We were wrong, terribly wrong. (We) should not have tried to fight a guerrilla war with conventional military tactics against a foe willing to absorb enormous casualties...in a country lacking the fundamental political stability necessary to conduct effective military and pacification operations. It could not be done and it was not done." - Robert S. McNamara ----------------------------------------- "We will take our napalm and flame throwers out of the land that scarcely knows the use of matches... We will leave you your small joys and smaller troubles." - Eugene McCarthy in "Vietnam Message" ----------------------------------------- never wrestle with a pig. you both get dirty; the pig likes it.

08-20-2010, 04:29 PM	#10834 (permalink)
Tully Mars Living in a Warmer Insanity Super Moderator Location: Yucatan, Mexico	SH? __________________ I used to drink to drown my sorrows, but the damned things have learned how to swim- Frida Kahlo Vice President Starkizzer Fan Club

08-20-2010, 04:38 PM	#10835 (permalink)
uncle phil comfortably numb... Super Moderator Location: upstate	nh... __________________ "We were wrong, terribly wrong. (We) should not have tried to fight a guerrilla war with conventional military tactics against a foe willing to absorb enormous casualties...in a country lacking the fundamental political stability necessary to conduct effective military and pacification operations. It could not be done and it was not done." - Robert S. McNamara ----------------------------------------- "We will take our napalm and flame throwers out of the land that scarcely knows the use of matches... We will leave you your small joys and smaller troubles." - Eugene McCarthy in "Vietnam Message" ----------------------------------------- never wrestle with a pig. you both get dirty; the pig likes it.

08-20-2010, 04:39 PM	#10836 (permalink)
Tully Mars Living in a Warmer Insanity Super Moderator Location: Yucatan, Mexico	Asia? __________________ I used to drink to drown my sorrows, but the damned things have learned how to swim- Frida Kahlo Vice President Starkizzer Fan Club