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I got my new lottery numbers! :D

Holy sheepdip, what a show!

This was one great episode. Hurley can be intense when he has to be.

Spoiler: So, the numbers were being transmitted even before the French lady arrived?? That's just fonky, man!

Is this the last ep of the season? Or another break?

Good ol' fun time harely! :D

He has, quite possibly, the weirdest backstory out there. Such a weird episode, I don't even know where to begin. Only thing that I'm baffled about is, at the end was that the hatch, that locke and boone discovered, with the numbers on it? If it is, it look like the dug it out a lot since we last saw it. Come to think of it, we haven't seen boone much in a while either.

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Originally Posted by Fremen

Spoiler: So, the numbers were being transmitted even before the French lady arrived?? That's just fonky, man!

Yea, that transmission has been going out for a loooooong time. Remember what the woman in Austrailia said to Hurley about her husband's experience listening to static out in the middle of the sea? I assume that he heard the same exact transmission that the French woman heard...

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Originally Posted by Seething

Only thing that I'm baffled about is, at the end was that the hatch, that locke and boone discovered, with the numbers on it?

I'm pretty sure that's what it was.

According to lost-tv.com they've aired 18 episodes this season (including the Hurley one tonight) and there are 24 in total, so there's 6 more episodes to go. It says the next episode won't air until April 13th, so there will be five more weeks of reruns before the show comes back. :confused:
But it looks like, starting on April 13th, a new episode will be aired every week, culminating with the last two episodes of the season being shown back to back on May 11th.

If you're curious and can't resist, there's a spoilers section on that site. I read through them (I couldn't help it!). Not much detailed info there (which is good since I didn't want to completely ruin the rest of the season for myself), but the season finale looks like it's gonna be great. Warning: While I did say that there's not much detailed info there, there's enough details to possibly let you in on more than you want to know.

oh man... great episode...

so great when saieed, jack, and charlie were about to go look for hurley and he walks up with the battery and tells Saieed that the french woman says hey

That was a fantastic episode.

Just what was needed methinks. An episode riddled with comedy.

Near the end when Hurley talks to the french lady and kind of freaks out was great.
And the scene with Charlie and Hurley at the end was pretty friggin' funny.

Hurley had been stealing scenes left and right. It was certainly nice to see the big man get a little of the spotlight.

We still didn't get the part of the backstory that landed him on Korean tv, though we now know exactly what it was that made him famous. It seems curious that nobody seems to have known who he was.

I love the way this series takes new revelations and uses them to put a new spin on previous situations. Hurley owes Walt $83,000 for backgammon losses. Before this flashback, the joke was that it's just paper losses, a way of keeping score because money is irrelevant on the island. Now we find out it'd be pocket change, but it's still irrelevant, because money doesn't matter on the island. Nice.

I thought it was just an okay episode myself. I don't have the same love on for Hurley that you guys all do. I mean, he's a good character. I like him. I just thought that the French lady should have been enshrouded in a little more mystery than that. I mean, they kind of just made her a regular character now; not special, not mysterious. They tried to use humour to make the whole scene more digestible, but I didn't necessarily bite...

No new episodes to April 13? WTF? (What the Fudge?)

Alright, the Australian woman said that her husband played the numbers on that "jar as big as a pony" thing, right? That doesn't sit well with me... That means his guess would've been 4,815,162,342. Almost 5 billion beans in the jar...

Ok, I know that's just a technical issue... But it's been bugging me all day and I had to throw it out there.

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Originally Posted by JStrider

so great when saieed, jack, and charlie were about to go look for hurley and he walks up with the battery and tells Saieed that the french woman says hey

My favorite part of the episode. It's hard to get me to laugh aloud (I'm a chuckle kind of guy) but Hurley seems to get me going with half his lines...

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Originally Posted by TexanAvenger

:thumbsup: I'm glad I wasn't the only one translating the winning digits into a single number for the beans! I thought my math was off -- 4.8 billions of beans is a heckuva lot of beans to fit in a single jar. I then spent an embarrassing amount of time thinking about what kind of beans they were and the size of the jar.

Everyone is playing these numbers for the Powerball lotto Friday. :)

I was thinking the same thing about the number of beans in the jar... I thought maybe he added the numbers up or something, but that only comes out to 108, which isn't that crazy of a number or anything.

Maybe it was a really big jar.

Wow.. this episode was great (in my opinion). I'll be keen to find out who put that bunker or whatever in the ground.. and who started broadcasting the numbers from the island... and why. Why's a good one hehe.

A mate of mine just came up with another spoke in the theory of the connectedness of everything... Hurley owns the box company that Locke works for. May be minor.. it may be huge (if it's true).. never know.

I had the same problem with the issue about the number of beans in the jar.

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Originally Posted by Latch

Hurley owns the box company that Locke works for. May be minor.. it may be huge (if it's true).. never know.

nice! didn't even pick up on that

Well let's say it was something small like a coffee bean. On doing a little research I found a coffee website that said that there are an average of about 3000 coffee beans per pound, so that would make the weight (not including the weight of the receptacle) about 1.6 million pounds. So I'm guessing that it wasn't a traveling carnival. ;)

Edited to add something I read somewhere else

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4,815,162,342 beans, counting 1 per second, would take more than a CENTURY to count:

60 seconds
x 60 minutes
x 24 hours
x 365 days / year
Equals 31,536,000

now take 4,815,162,342 and divide into it 31,536,000 and you get:

152.7 YEARS

We're about 5 eps into it down here in Aus and a guy at work hypothesised today that they're all dead and in purgatory. Forgive me for not reading every page of this thread, but has this been mentioned before that anyone has seen?

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Originally Posted by Ella

I've seen that speculation elsewhere. I don't think that's what's going on, because people on the island die, including in the first episode, and because of evidence that's been uncovered in subsequent episodes.

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Originally Posted by Latch

There have been strange, mysterious radio broadcasts going on for years. Numbers. Strange tones. Different languages.

From:totse.com

Numbers Stations

Well over a hundred "numbers" or "spy" stations have
been reported, all rather closely following a pattern. On the
typical numbers station, the announcer is - or seems to be -
a woman. No one knows who the woman is or where she is
broadcasting from. She speaks Spanish, German, or Korean.
Save for a few words at the begining and the end of the
transmission, the message consists of reandom numbers,
announced in groups of five, four, or, rarely, three digits.
As with the Morse code stations, the numbers stations are all
on unauthorized frequencies. No government or organization
owns up to the broadcasts; offically, at least, the FCC
claims no knowledge of them.
Many of those who have listened to the broadcasts
carefully are convinced that the woman is in fact a robot.
The voice has a mechanical ring, somtimes a click between
each digit.

More here and here

There's even an album

oh yeah. One more thing. Hurley was in a mental institution? As a patient, I assume? I wonder if it has anything to do with his nickname.

As far as how long it would take you to count that number, who said it was one guy who counted them? 1 per second is awfully slow if 152 people count 3 per second that's only 4 months.....considering how much of a money maker it was for the game runner, it would probably be worth it. Now the size of the container is something I would be worried about

Wake up, people!!!
A new episode of Lost is airing earlier than first advertised.

http://www.aintitcool.com/display.cgi?id=19637

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UPDATED!!
LOST Hiatus Cut Short!!
New Episodes Air March 30 & April 6!!

This is two weeks earlier than previously thought. Here’s how things shape up going into May sweeps:
1.19 March 30. Deus Ex Machina. Locke makes hatch progress.
1.20 April 06. Do No Harm. Jack helps with labor pains.
1.21 April 20. The Greater Good. Sayid-centric.
1.22 April 27. Born to Run. Kate-centric.

UPDATE!! The Hollywood reporter just posted its story on the Museum of Television & Radio's Saturday "Lost" event, and one of the few new things revealed? The series finale will combine 1.23 and a 90-minute 1.24 to take up 2.5 hours of one May Wednesday night.
Another of the things I don't think I knew prior to this weekend: Jorge Garcia (Hurley) was the first cast. I also didn't know Garcia was a comedian.

I wonder if somebody in management wised-up? :rolleyes:

Anyway, I'm looking forward to more Locke backstory. :thumbsup:

Awesome. 6 weeks was just too long.. hell.. 1 week is almost too long :)

Thanks for the update.

Yes, this is very good news. Hooray! A 2.5 hour first season finale? Unprecidented! I'm very anxious...

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Originally Posted by Fremen

Wake up, people!!!
A new episode of Lost is airing earlier than first advertised.

Was just about to come post about that. Heck yeah!

from today's NYTimes:

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Anxious to See How It Ends? So Are the Writers.
By NED MARTEL

few weeks ago, over eggs and turkey sausage on Sunset Boulevard, two young television writers talked shop about their network hits, until a phone call from the Hawaiian set of "Lost" demanded Damon Lindelof's attention. Josh Schwartz, the creator of "The O.C.," could guess the problem.

"To myself, I'm thinking, 'Script supervisor calling, actor doesn't want to say a line,' " Mr. Schwartz said, comparing Mr. Lindelof's call to the chaos in his life one year earlier. Back then, an actor on "The O.C." insisted he could no longer appear villainous, throwing a hastily written finale into disrepair. "And Damon answers the phone and goes: 'Hello? Unhh! What line won't he say?' " Mr. Schwartz recalled.

"Lost" and "The O.C.," along with "24" and "Desperate Housewives," are high-profile serials with substantial, devoted audiences, but no one - not writers, not network executives and not viewers - knows exactly how they will end their seasons. Their writers, like others in Hollywood, are trying to devise the perfect season finale - with little time to spare.

According to interviews with writers from all four shows, their finales are unshot, and mostly unwritten.

"The monster of production is at your back; you're writing closer and closer to deadline," said Mr. Lindelof, the "Lost" writer, who compared his mind-set to that of a marathoner who learns at Mile 15 that the race has been extended by two miles.

Mr. Lindelof listed his show's many leaps into the unknown: a locked hatch on the jungle floor, a marauding polar bear, an man-eating monster and more survivors from a previous plane crash. As adept as the writers, led by Mr. Lindelof and the "Alias" creator J. J. Abrams, have been at adding new mysteries, they now must subtract some. There's a hard-to-quantify moment when an audience stops feeling tantalized and starts feeling manipulated.

Mr. Lindelof committed to killing off a series regular by season's end; also by that point, the raft that some castaways have been building will have set sail, he said. But just who will live or die has always been a problem for this writing staff. "In the original pilot, Matthew Fox's character died halfway through," Mr. Lindelof explained. "We made him a real living, breathing, three-dimensional guy, so that his death would be shocking. And what happened was people, ourselves included as writers, said, 'Wow, I kind of don't want to kill this guy off anymore.' " The writers enjoyed the options for this character, Jack Shepherd, a doctor who could treat fellow castaways. Then, as "Lost" writers created glimpses each of 14 characters' pre-crash histories, other survivors won immunity. "Over the year, there were plans to kill off more characters that were abandoned," Mr. Lindelof said.

Another serialized drama, "24," helped make audiences comfortable with such unconventional storytelling. But unlike the nonlinear format of "Lost," "24" is fastidiously linear, with each episode detailing an hour in a very eventful day of an antiterrorism agent. That poses unusual writing problems, which demand extra time and brainpower to solve. "On any other show on TV and any other movie, you put a guy on a plane in Los Angeles and you want to get him to New York, you can have him in New York in the next scene," said Robert Cochran, one of the show's creators. "On our show, he's on that plane for five episodes."

With the structure of "24" bound by time restrictions on paper, Mr. Cochran wanted fewer such restrictions in the real world. After the network ordered the first full season of "24," the writers presented a huge map of the entire first season. The blueprint, however, didn't endure. "We used to obsess over that in Year 1," Mr. Cochran said. "You know, Oh, God, let's story out as many episodes as we can. We always got in a lot of trouble with that because if you try it, you end up locking yourselves into things that don't really work and it gets really contrived."

After his four seasons of "24," Mr. Cochran endorses the same approach: save big decisions till the end of the season. The writers and the audience, he insists, will then enjoy the benefits of a looser process. "At the beginning of the season, we certainly don't know," he said. "Halfway through, we certainly don't know. As we're writing episode 16 or 17, we start thinking in a very general sort of way, where we'd like to end the season."

Gail Berman, president of Fox Entertainment, said: "You have some idea of what's going to happen, but you just don't know exactly. And sometimes a character will pop and that will take things in a new direction, or a storyline will pop and that takes things in another direction."

Ms. Berman and her counterpart at ABC, Steve McPherson, each demand some sense of the show's arcs, which are often presented in packages of six or eight episodes that forecast a character's fate or a mystery's resolution. But both executives have learned to "respect the creative process," as the buzz-phrase goes, trusting that writerly intuition will flourish with looser deadlines and less intrusion. Pressed by reporters in January, Mr. McPherson admitted he didn't know how Mr. Abrams, a co-creator for "Lost," would end the season, nor did he care if the season's conclusion, at that point, was murky even to the writer himself. "I think it would be fun if he didn't know," Mr. McPherson said.

Mr. McPherson's embrace of the unknown is brave. ABC and Fox are neck-and-neck in a race for No. 2 in the ratings, behind CBS, and the outcome could turn on the handful of dramas, including "Lost" and "Desperate Housewives," that are the seismic hits of the season.

The writers of "Desperate Housewives" are creating their highly anticipated finale only now because they have already used ideas they meant to save for later. The entire series began with a death, the suicide of the show's narrator, Mary Alice, and her motivation for killing herself became the series' driving mystery. Right away, the show's creator, Marc Cherry, proved unafraid to spill even more blood. Martha Huber, Wisteria Lane's nosey blackmailing neighbor, was murdered in the seventh episode in a twist that couldn't wait.

Now the writers of "Desperate Housewives" are proving slaves to their own demanding invention: their fast-paced script format includes about 60 scenes of 2 pages each per episode. Other hourlong dramas average 35 scenes or so of 5-page scenes, according to Tom Spezialy, one of the series' executive producers.

The show's concept blends so many genres - romantic comedy, family drama, murder mystery, soap opera - Mr. Cherry and his nine other writers "must feed the beast," in Mr. Spezialy's words.

Mr. McPherson publicly teased Mr. Cherry that his publicity demands were officially over in late January; the writer had pages to produce. Each morning before noon, he confines himself to a bungalow on a Universal Studios lot and produces six new pages in six hours, before turning to rewrites and reshoots. Mr. Spezialy removed the phone from Mr. Cherry's bungalow.

The end-of-season "lockdown" means living more in the life of the characters than in one's own life, according to many writers. And when Mr. Lindelof ran into Mr. Cherry in the ABC offices, they commiserated on having had one day off in seven weeks. To Mr. Spezialy, it had seemed even longer. "Really we've been here since last May," he said.

Describing his own freshman season's final months, Mr. Schwartz of "The O.C." replayed his internal monologue as he was struggling to write dialogue. "How did I get here? How am I ever going to sustain this? This is all going to go down in flames. The whole thing's riding on me," he recalled. "You know, that sort of wired exhaustion."

This year, for "The O.C.'s" second season, he did not worry as much; he figured out what will happen in his Southern California "soapedy," as he called it, after having written half the season's 24 episodes. But he recognized the anxious determination he saw in a newcomer like Mr. Lindelof. "It's just that constant feeling of like, well, we can't ever do any more stories than that? Oh, but we have to, O.K.!" Mr. Schwartz recalled.

double post.. go me.

There are some slight spoilers in that article.. be warned.

Thanks for posting it though, it's good to see they only have slightly more of a clue.

alright.. set your Tivo's, cancel your dinner plans, whatever you do...

get ready for the new one this week ;)

Okay, things are getting pretty intense. Could John's paralysis be psychological?

I loved this episode! It was creepy, powerful, intense, funny, and with a killer cliff hanger... can't wait till next week.

I always assumed that Locke's paralysis was psychological. I guess just because having some physcial injury of his be magically healed by the island would be a little too direct for the show's style. But, in the end, this episode didn't give us any specific clues about his paralysis, right? It started to come back, but we still don't know what's causing it or how he got it.

I've been assuming that Locke's paralysis was physical and that the island's cure was supernatural in origin, but I'm intrigued by the idea that it might be psychological. I'm still thinking that the island is actually manifesting subconscious desires and fears in the inhabitants, like Forbidden Planet and ST: TOS Shore Leave.

Man, talking about cold! Take my other kidney, why don't you?! :eek:

Ya better hide all that heroin from Charlie!

I was laughing my ass off at Sawyer's predicament when they cadged the glasses together. Poor guy. :p

It was good to see them making tools and stuff, alá Gilligan's Island. :thumbsup:

Locke didn't seem to have any feeling in his legs.
He even tested his foot with the burning stick.

I thought that was really interesting about his legs, it's not like he was cured by any means as due to this paralysis he still had no feeling yet he could walk. The episide didn't give much as to how he ended up in the chair I was thinking complications from surgury (when he went to his fathers house from the hospital there was blood on his back soaking through his shirt) or I thought perhaps he got in a car accident on the way from there when he was so mad. Neither answser was confirmed though on this episode.

Next week looks to be good, i'm sure Siad will try and salvage the radio/battery from the plane along with parts. How Charlie will handle the heroin will be interesting as well.

I love this show hope it comes out on DVD quickly after season wrap up so I can watch them all back to back!

Very interesting.... Are you sure Boone will tell about the plane? It seems John won't, and it seems he may even disappear into the hatch for a while. What surprised me was that this backstory of John's didn't seem to cross paths with any of the other characters' backstory (that I can recall we've seen).

John had that dream of the plane, and Boone and all that, so there must be *some* sort of supernatural force.. or John himself has extraordinary powers.

I love this show.

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Originally Posted by Fremen

Ya better hide all that heroin from Charlie!

I was thinking the same... It has to be a future plot twist for sure...

I had the same thought about the heroin and Charlie.

Here's my thing, and I hope somebody can clear it up for me, what did the guy on the radio say? Locke was yelling, as well as my kid sister who was spending the night, but it sounded an awful lot like, "There were no survivors." Which would be a HUGE deal. That's exactly what makes me question it...

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Originally Posted by Fremen

I was laughing my ass off at Sawyer's predicament when they cadged the glasses together. Poor guy.

One of my favorite moments of the show came from that. Where Jack was asking Sawyer about his sexual history... Then, as soon as Sawyer leaves, Jack says, "He needs glasses."

why did Locke lie about how Boone was injured? he always seems to hide things

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Originally Posted by TexanAvenger

I wish I could help. I'd like to know, as well.

I thought I had taped it, but what I ended up taping was an hour of the "pause" screen of Mario Tennis. :rolleyes: :D

heh... last time I tried to actually tape a show, I set the channel to record on the vcr wrong... got thirty minutes of a special on how leather is made...

On the upside, I can tell you the centuries old method of removing the hair from cowhide... :rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by TexanAvenger

Here's my thing, and I hope somebody can clear it up for me, what did the guy on the radio say? Locke was yelling, as well as my kid sister who was spending the night, but it sounded an awful lot like, "There were no survivors." Which would be a HUGE deal. That's exactly what makes me question it...

I took a couple more listens and it does sound like that's what he said although it's tough to understand with or without a yelling kid sister.

I didn't make too much of it though. I'm not sure how long its been since the crash, but it seems long enough to assume there are no survivors.

Here's my reasoning: If a guy told me he was a survivor, my response would be something along the lines of, "Oh god, are you okay? Where are you? How many survived?"

"There were no survivors" implies a knowledge of everybody dying or having searched for them and found nothing. At least in my mind...