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Old 07-23-2005, 05:08 PM   #41 (permalink)
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I'm not saying that if there was manipulation to begin with that it should be excused away. What I am saying is that as a parent, there are better ways to deal with situations and under no circumstance should she have treated her child (or anyone for that matter) in that manner.

She was acting like a complete child and not the adult that she should be.
Exactly right.

My brother loved to provoke my parents. My Dad would flip out sometimes. My mom though would usually stay quite calm. It doesn't matter what the kid does a parent should have the restraint to deal with a kid who is so subordinate.

If the kid was provoking his parents they could close his credit card account. If he's 16 then the only way he gets a credit card is if he got his parents to sign off on it. In that case they still have authority with regards to the account. If he's managed to provoke her to the point that she has flipped out then he's most likely acting too childish to hold a credit card account. I mean there are so many variables. So many ways they could take priveledges, provide consequences for negative behavior. There is absolutely no reason for a parent - the one who is to be the example - to behave like that.
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Old 07-23-2005, 05:28 PM   #42 (permalink)
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She's not sober. She's obviously drunk or on speed or painkillers or something, and definitely has some mental issues as well. I feel bad for the kid, but he'll come out of this stronger. People like this bitch shouldn't procreate.
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Old 07-25-2005, 07:30 AM   #43 (permalink)
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I was going to make the same comment about the credit card. How can a child have one??? it would therefore have to be either a bank card (for ATMs), or a parent's credit card given to the child.

The yelling,and the possible one-sidedness of the taping aside, I should relate how my sister (who has been known to yell abit) handles her son (my 15 yr old nephew). He gets an ATM card for his working account, which was set up by his mom, and is accessible to to her online. Any money he earns from his part time tutoring job ($9/hr) is deposited there, and his mom transfers 75% to a trust savings account. The remaining 25% is his to spend as he wishes (so far just on CDs and guitar books)
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Old 07-25-2005, 06:06 PM   #44 (permalink)
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I'd feel better about the kid's motivation had he taken the recording to someone - family, school counselor, even CS - before posting it. Now it's a Springer episode.
This is his mom, I am sure he doesn't think of telling someone else about it first thing. He maybe just wanted some people to hear it, and see how it was for some understanding. Never EVER under any circumstances should a parent act that way with a child. Maybe they both scream when they have untaped fights. But listen to how he curses so freely in front of his parents. You only learn that in a family that has parents that do it. (take the Osmonds for example) This woman should go to jail in my opinion for verbal abuse. This goes way beyond acceptable, and this kid should get as far away from her as possible. Just to let you all know....WOW this disturbs me, and makes me angry as well. He deserves better. Anyone in that situation does. (Sorry for ranting and Raving)
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Old 07-26-2005, 08:11 PM   #45 (permalink)
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Nobody should ever treat anyone like that. There is nothing that the kid could have done to warrant that type of response.

Along the lines of how he got that stuff (I saw a 27 or so inch CRT TV, a computer, and Xbox games) I make $6.25 an hour, 40 hrs. a week, and I could probably buy a 27" TV in a week, an Xbox in 2, a computer in a month and a half, and 4 games a week. It would be pretty safe to assume that he could have bought it himself.
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Old 07-29-2005, 11:47 AM   #46 (permalink)
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Wow.

The only time I've ever heard screaming like that was from a friend of ours who became addicted to Meth and was looking for money. It was downright scary.

But I agree with everyone who says that without the 10 minutes prior to this taping, it's hard to get an accurate picture of the whole ordeal.

But that kid reminds me of my best friend growing up, listening to him in this, it's easy to hear that he knows exactly what he's saying and how to get under her skin, my friend did the same with his mother.

He isn't acting calm to try to calm her down, or acting like an adult, he's staying just calm enough, and making comments filled with just ever so much vitriol, and just a pinch of 'holiier-than-thou' sentiment, just to piss her off more. It's the same exact thing I do when I want to antagonize my older brother.

But that doesn't excuse that she's making like a coke fiend.
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Old 07-29-2005, 04:16 PM   #47 (permalink)
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That is pretty insane, but like some others said even if the kid DID in fact provoke his mom that is no way to act. All that screaming and shit is not very adult like, she didn't handle that situation well at all.
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Old 08-01-2005, 05:21 PM   #48 (permalink)
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Wow... *snip*
How can they be so short on money when the boy's room is set up so nice with electronics?
It's called being in debt. I have a friend who gets everything he wants, and his parents are massively in debt. The cutest part about that is that my friend is 20 years old and living at home. Shitty parenting indeed.
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Old 08-01-2005, 08:21 PM   #49 (permalink)
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She's not sober. She's obviously drunk or on speed or painkillers or something, and definitely has some mental issues as well. I feel bad for the kid, but he'll come out of this stronger. People like this bitch shouldn't procreate.
Yep. And I don't doubt that the $50 is to get her latest fix of whatever she's on. That being said, the kid is definitely passive aggressive, but it's hard not to be in a situation like that. The dad sounds like a delight too.
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