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Slavakion · 03-01-2005, 06:38 AM

http://www.lex18.com/Global/story.as...4&nav=EQlpWjof

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A George Rogers Clark High School junior arrested Tuesday for making terrorist threats told LEX 18 News Thursday that the "writings" that got him arrested are being taken out of context.

Winchester police say William Poole, 18, was taken into custody Tuesday morning. Investigators say they discovered materials at Poole's home that outline possible acts of violence aimed at students, teachers, and police.

Poole told LEX 18 that the whole incident is a big misunderstanding. He claims that what his grandparents found in his journal and turned into police was a short story he wrote for English class.

"My story is based on fiction," said Poole, who faces a second-degree felony terrorist threatening charge. "It's a fake story. I made it up. I've been working on one of my short stories, (and) the short story they found was about zombies. Yes, it did say a high school. It was about a high school over ran by zombies."

Even so, police say the nature of the story makes it a felony. "Anytime you make any threat or possess matter involving a school or function it's a felony in the state of Kentucky," said Winchester Police detective Steven Caudill.

Poole disputes that he was threatening anyone.

"It didn't mention nobody who lives in Clark County, didn't mention (George Rogers Clark High School), didn't mention no principal or cops, nothing,"
said Poole. "Half the people at high school know me. They know I'm not that stupid, that crazy."

On Thursday, a judge raised Poole's bond from one to five thousand dollars after prosecutors requested it, citing the seriousness of the charge.

Poole is being held at the Clark County Detention Center.

I'm glad that Kentucky's finest have finally put this madman behind bars. He's obviously deranged and posed an immediate danger to any around him.

anleja · 03-01-2005, 06:52 AM

When I was in middle school, I made a crude comic depicting one of my peers going around and causing havoc on the school. Like, putting one of our smaller peers in a microwave, for example. Very violent, but done with only good intentions (well, at least not truly bad intentions). I'm sure that if it was in today's climate, if someone found it I would have been expelled. But, these were the innocent days of the early 90s.

Oh, and regarding the story above... I'm sure those grandparents won't be getting any hugs from that guy anytime soon.

Fourtyrulz · 03-01-2005, 07:05 AM

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Even so, police say the nature of the story makes it a felony. "Anytime you make any threat or possess matter involving a school or function it's a felony in the state of Kentucky," said Winchester Police detective Steven Caudill.

I think this is the scariest part! So if it involves a school or even a school function you could be charged with a felony! What about the movie Carrie, are they outlawing that too?

I wrote a terribly gory story about zombies in 3rd grade involving my friends at school for a "book" project. It was ilustrated and everything, called "Zombie Attack." After my teacher saw it he called my parents to let them know the content of the story, but my parents already knew and didn't see much in it besides a kid who has read too many scary stories and wanted to make one himself. People just need to take things at face value sometimes.

the_marq · 03-01-2005, 07:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Fourtyrulz

I think this is the scariest part! So if it involves a school or even a school function you could be charged with a felony! What about the movie Carrie, are they outlawing that too?

No kidding, clearly Stephen King is a terrorist, so are Brad Pitt, Ed Norton and Chuck Palaniuk (you've seen Fight Club).

Christ, this is already way past the stage of "getting out of hand." Amercians have already lost so many civil liberites without even noticing it that it may already be too late.

Glory's Sun · 03-01-2005, 07:25 AM

/me moves to Canada

this is just stupid. I can understand if the boy mentioned specific people or was found with guns and other things..but a short story?? Geez, who knows that shit could have been the next big seller..but now they've squashed his imatination and creativity.. way to go.

kurtisj · 03-01-2005, 08:14 AM

i guess this teaches us all a lesson, dont try to be creative, ITS A FELONY!

Bill O'Rights · 03-01-2005, 08:33 AM

Exactly at what point did common sense become replaced by blanket legislation?

the_marq · 03-01-2005, 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Bill O'Rights

Exactly at what point did common sense become replaced by blanket legislation?

October 26, 2001 - The Patriot Act?

Just a guess.

flstf · 03-01-2005, 08:54 AM

When I was in Seattle a young boy was suspended/expelled for carrying a small GI Joe plastic gun trinket in his pocket. The principal said that they had to abide by the zero tolerance policy. It is hard to believe that these people are smart enough to get through college and still have no common sense.

thatoneguy · 03-01-2005, 08:57 AM

This is definitely a load of garbage, you can't punish someone for writing a short story. As he said himself, he didn't mention the school, any names of students that go there, it was FICTION! I can't believe the way they jump all over any student that does anything they can even remotely construe as "threatening." Also, way to be a good grandparent, you find something in your grandson's room and immidiately turn him into the police? What the? They didn't even ASK him about it? That's classic, way to go.

I just can't express how asinine this is... so much for that one thing... you know, that amendment... oh, what is it? The first? Something about "freedom of speech"? Eh, oh well, probably didn't need that anyway...

Bill O'Rights · 03-01-2005, 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by thatoneguy

Also, way to be a good grandparent, you find something in your grandson's room and immidiately turn him into the police? What the? They didn't even ASK him about it? That's classic, way to go.

Wellll...in a sense...I can see that. Not understand it, but I can definately see it. What if it really had been something? We, after all, haven't read it. We don't know the verbage, or the structure, that was used. Now...suppose something had come of it. The first thing that you would've heard was, "Where were the parents/grandparents?". It may not be the approach that I'd have taken...but I can definately see why they did. We've become conditioned.

flstf · 03-01-2005, 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Bill O'Rights

What if it really had been something? We, after all, haven't read it. We don't know the verbage, or the structure, that was used. Now...suppose something had come of it. The first thing that you would've heard was, "Where were the parents/grandparents?". It may not be the approach that I'd have taken...but I can definately see why they did. We've become conditioned.

I have been unable to find the text of the story he wrote but it is hard to believe that a story about zombies is enough to get arrested and possibly jailed over. Even if the zombies in the story were going to do evil things.

whocarz · 03-01-2005, 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by the_marq

October 26, 2001 - The Patriot Act?

Just a guess.

I'd say you're wrong. Shit like this started happening after April 20, 1999.

warrrreagl · 03-01-2005, 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by the_marq

Amercians have already lost so many civil liberites without even noticing it that it may already be too late.

It seems to me to be more of a loss of common sense than civil liberties, lately. The reverse pendulum swing is coming one day.

guthmund · 03-01-2005, 02:14 PM

I hope that day comes soon.

I could overlook and understand the grandparents desire to do the right thing, if and only if, the story wasn't an obvious attempt at fiction.

He said it was about zombies. He said he wrote it for an English class. He didn't mention anything specific.

The really sad part about this is this...

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On Thursday, a judge raised Poole's bond from one to five thousand dollars after prosecutors requested it, citing the seriousness of the charge.

Poole is being held at the Clark County Detention Center.

Seriousness of the charge? Raise Poole's bond $4000 because of the "seriousness" of the charge? Were the courts aware it was a fictional story about zombies?

I have not the words to describe how ridiculous all this is, so, I will close with perhaps my favorite line from one of my favorite fictional television shows.

"We failed both on a mechanical and human level."

SaltPork · 03-01-2005, 02:18 PM

I used to draw torture chambers with people being dissected alive while I was in art class in 6th grade. Imagine if a kid did that now? They'd be locked up.

It was just a phase.....I swear.

pattycakes · 03-01-2005, 05:13 PM

he should appeal this to the United States Supreme Court, if the case dosent get thrown out first. then he should sue the school \ state for defimation of characteror something.

I do not believe in people who run around and sue everyone for no reason. but being held in jail for zombies...... ROFL

Coppertop · 03-01-2005, 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by whocarz

I'd say you're wrong. Shit like this started happening after April 20, 1999.

Yup.

I'm sorry, but jailing someone for a story about zombies attacking a school is fucking retarded.

Slavakion · 03-01-2005, 05:49 PM

It makes you wonder what'll come next. Will I serve hard time for carrying around my Chemistry textbook? It contains formulas for creating highly explosive compounds. Or maybe for having my old-school SLR camera. I might take pictures of confidential records. Better watch out for my gym bag. It contains loose clothes that I might wear in order to flip out and totally go ninja on yo' asses!!1! And finally my calculus book. I could, uh, become smarter than the current administration? Yeah, that's probably the most dangerous thing in my backpack.

Willravel · 03-01-2005, 06:02 PM

Don't take this so lightly. We are talking about a serious problem that affects Americans. This is a story that really hits home for me espically. You see zombies killed my father and raped my mother back in '94. The zombies were released because the police couldn't find the teenager who wrote a fictional story about them. It's good to know that when teeagers write zombie stories today, they are heald accountable for it. It's good to know that the zombies and the children who write them will surely be brought to justice. My parents would have wanted it this way.

hunnychile · 03-01-2005, 06:50 PM

Ok, I've taught art and English in Jr. High Schools before and, in truth, I would rather the kids "act out" this stuff in fictional essays or drawings. They have to vent. And art isn't always pretty. In fact the healing part of it is often wild & savagely strange.

BTW: what has happened to The Fifth Ammendment? Is is only for those with money and fame...

Mojo_PeiPei · 03-01-2005, 06:57 PM

What does the fifth amendment have to do with anything, the kid isn't being held without due process or anything.

Slavakion · 03-01-2005, 07:16 PM

I'm guessing that was supposed to be "first" amendment.

Painted · 03-01-2005, 07:58 PM

This guy can say, "I got arrested because of a piece of paper."

guthmund · 03-01-2005, 09:39 PM

Well, after reading some of the responses and re-visiting the thread, I feel a bit better.

I guess I shouldn't laugh or get too upset apparently zombie attacks are all too real.
Dan Birlew did a fabulous write up over at gamefaqs.com. Not your typical "news" site, but then again being arrested for writing zombie fiction isn't exactly your typical "news" story.

It seems that in 1996 a small town in the midwest by the name of Raccoon City was completely decimated by an experiment gone wrong at an Umbrella Corporation laboratory that turned the townspeople and all their pets into ravenous brain-seeking zombies. It was only thanks to the tremendous efforts of Chris Redfield and Jill Valentine that the story was brought to the publics' attention.

Seriously. The grandparents, the prosecutor who brought charges and the judge who sent the guy to jail are all "challenged." They should all have to resign their jobs effective immediately and be shipped to a moderate sized tropical island somewhere far, far away. Those of us with a bit of common sense are tired of hearing stories like this and tired of people like you being put in charge of the 'serious' business of having children and participating in the judicial system. You'll make lots of new friends on "Idiot Island;" the boat leaves immediately.

There. I'm really, really done.

pinoychink790 · 03-01-2005, 09:43 PM

this guy seems pretty cool to me. Maybe not as cool as free french fries, but he still seems pretty cool.

whocarz · 03-02-2005, 03:28 AM

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Originally Posted by guthmund

Well, after reading some of the responses and re-visiting the thread, I feel a bit better.

I guess I shouldn't laugh or get too upset apparently zombie attacks are all too real.
Dan Birlew did a fabulous write up over at gamefaqs.com. Not your typical "news" site, but then again being arrested for writing zombie fiction isn't exactly your typical "news" story.

It seems that in 1996 a small town in the midwest by the name of Raccoon City was completely decimated by an experiment gone wrong at an Umbrella Corporation laboratory that turned the townspeople and all their pets into ravenous brain-seeking zombies. It was only thanks to the tremendous efforts of Chris Redfield and Jill Valentine that the story was brought to the publics' attention.

Seriously. The grandparents, the prosecutor who brought charges and the judge who sent the guy to jail are all "challenged." They should all have to resign their jobs effective immediately and be shipped to a moderate sized tropical island somewhere far, far away. Those of us with a bit of common sense are tired of hearing stories like this and tired of people like you being put in charge of the 'serious' business of having children and participating in the judicial system. You'll make lots of new friends on "Idiot Island;" the boat leaves immediately.

There. I'm really, really done.

And if there were any cosmic justice, it would be an island overrun with the living dead, like in any number of Italian zombie flicks.

This shit reminds me of the time I got reprimanded in third grade because I drew swastikas in a picture. It was silly because I was drawing a bunch of American soldiers blowing up Nazis, and to get the point across that they were, in fact, Nazis, I figured the most expedient way would be to draw the symbol that everyone associates with them.

Not nearly as extreme of a reaction as this, but perhaps this kind of thought process has been slowly simmering to a boil over the past couple decades?

03-10-2005, 04:19 AM

that's rediculous. it upsets me a lot. it makes me think maybe those people should get bitten by zombies, if they're going to be so fucking stupid. if people keep acting like that they'll have no more movies and books and videogames, the things they idolize and base thier lives off of

03-01-2005, 08:14 AM	#6 (permalink)
kurtisj Insane Location: The Wick	i guess this teaches us all a lesson, dont try to be creative, ITS A FELONY! __________________ Marvin the Mountie Always Gets His Kurtisj.

03-01-2005, 08:33 AM	#7 (permalink)
Bill O'Rights will always be an Alyson Hanniganite Location: In the dust of the archives	Exactly at what point did common sense become replaced by blanket legislation? __________________ "I distrust those people who know so well what God wants them to do because I notice it always coincides with their own desires." - Susan B. Anthony "Hedonism with rules isn't hedonism at all, it's the Republican party." - JumpinJesus It is indisputable that true beauty lies within...but a nice rack sure doesn't hurt.

03-01-2005, 02:18 PM	#16 (permalink)
SaltPork Everything's better with bacon Location: In your local grocer's freezer.	I used to draw torture chambers with people being dissected alive while I was in art class in 6th grade. Imagine if a kid did that now? They'd be locked up. It was just a phase.....I swear. __________________ It was like that when I got here....I swear.

03-01-2005, 06:50 PM	#21 (permalink)
hunnychile Alien Anthropologist Location: Between Boredom and Nirvana	Ok, I've taught art and English in Jr. High Schools before and, in truth, I would rather the kids "act out" this stuff in fictional essays or drawings. They have to vent. And art isn't always pretty. In fact the healing part of it is often wild & savagely strange. BTW: what has happened to The Fifth Ammendment? Is is only for those with money and fame... __________________ "I need compassion, understanding and chocolate." - NJB

03-01-2005, 06:57 PM	#22 (permalink)
Mojo_PeiPei Kiss of Death Location: Perpetual wind and sorrow	What does the fifth amendment have to do with anything, the kid isn't being held without due process or anything. __________________ To win a war you must serve no master but your ambition.

03-01-2005, 06:52 AM	#2 (permalink)
anleja disconnected Location: ignoreland	When I was in middle school, I made a crude comic depicting one of my peers going around and causing havoc on the school. Like, putting one of our smaller peers in a microwave, for example. Very violent, but done with only good intentions (well, at least not truly bad intentions). I'm sure that if it was in today's climate, if someone found it I would have been expelled. But, these were the innocent days of the early 90s. Oh, and regarding the story above... I'm sure those grandparents won't be getting any hugs from that guy anytime soon.

03-01-2005, 07:25 AM	#5 (permalink)
Glory's Sun Registered User	/me moves to Canada this is just stupid. I can understand if the boy mentioned specific people or was found with guns and other things..but a short story?? Geez, who knows that shit could have been the next big seller..but now they've squashed his imatination and creativity.. way to go.

03-01-2005, 08:54 AM	#9 (permalink)
flstf Easy Rider Location: Moscow on the Ohio	When I was in Seattle a young boy was suspended/expelled for carrying a small GI Joe plastic gun trinket in his pocket. The principal said that they had to abide by the zero tolerance policy. It is hard to believe that these people are smart enough to get through college and still have no common sense.

03-01-2005, 08:57 AM	#10 (permalink)
thatoneguy Crazy Location: Omaha, NE	This is definitely a load of garbage, you can't punish someone for writing a short story. As he said himself, he didn't mention the school, any names of students that go there, it was FICTION! I can't believe the way they jump all over any student that does anything they can even remotely construe as "threatening." Also, way to be a good grandparent, you find something in your grandson's room and immidiately turn him into the police? What the? They didn't even ASK him about it? That's classic, way to go. I just can't express how asinine this is... so much for that one thing... you know, that amendment... oh, what is it? The first? Something about "freedom of speech"? Eh, oh well, probably didn't need that anyway...

03-01-2005, 05:49 PM	#19 (permalink)
Slavakion Mjollnir Incarnate Location: Lost in thought	It makes you wonder what'll come next. Will I serve hard time for carrying around my Chemistry textbook? It contains formulas for creating highly explosive compounds. Or maybe for having my old-school SLR camera. I might take pictures of confidential records. Better watch out for my gym bag. It contains loose clothes that I might wear in order to flip out and totally go ninja on yo' asses!!1! And finally my calculus book. I could, uh, become smarter than the current administration? Yeah, that's probably the most dangerous thing in my backpack.

03-01-2005, 06:02 PM	#20 (permalink)
Willravel ... a sort of licensed troubleshooter.	Don't take this so lightly. We are talking about a serious problem that affects Americans. This is a story that really hits home for me espically. You see zombies killed my father and raped my mother back in '94. The zombies were released because the police couldn't find the teenager who wrote a fictional story about them. It's good to know that when teeagers write zombie stories today, they are heald accountable for it. It's good to know that the zombies and the children who write them will surely be brought to justice. My parents would have wanted it this way.

03-01-2005, 07:16 PM	#23 (permalink)
Slavakion Mjollnir Incarnate Location: Lost in thought	I'm guessing that was supposed to be "first" amendment.

03-01-2005, 07:58 PM	#24 (permalink)
Painted Pleasure Burn	This guy can say, "I got arrested because of a piece of paper." __________________ I came across a nice rack at the department store

03-01-2005, 09:39 PM	#25 (permalink)
guthmund big damn hero	Well, after reading some of the responses and re-visiting the thread, I feel a bit better. I guess I shouldn't laugh or get too upset apparently zombie attacks are all too real. Dan Birlew did a fabulous write up over at gamefaqs.com. Not your typical "news" site, but then again being arrested for writing zombie fiction isn't exactly your typical "news" story. It seems that in 1996 a small town in the midwest by the name of Raccoon City was completely decimated by an experiment gone wrong at an Umbrella Corporation laboratory that turned the townspeople and all their pets into ravenous brain-seeking zombies. It was only thanks to the tremendous efforts of Chris Redfield and Jill Valentine that the story was brought to the publics' attention. Seriously. The grandparents, the prosecutor who brought charges and the judge who sent the guy to jail are all "challenged." They should all have to resign their jobs effective immediately and be shipped to a moderate sized tropical island somewhere far, far away. Those of us with a bit of common sense are tired of hearing stories like this and tired of people like you being put in charge of the 'serious' business of having children and participating in the judicial system. You'll make lots of new friends on "Idiot Island;" the boat leaves immediately. There. I'm really, really done. __________________ No signature. None. Seriously.

03-01-2005, 09:43 PM	#26 (permalink)
pinoychink790 Loser Location: McDonald's Playland	this guy seems pretty cool to me. Maybe not as cool as free french fries, but he still seems pretty cool.

03-10-2005, 04:19 AM	#28 (permalink)
kitsune Guest	that's rediculous. it upsets me a lot. it makes me think maybe those people should get bitten by zombies, if they're going to be so fucking stupid. if people keep acting like that they'll have no more movies and books and videogames, the things they idolize and base thier lives off of