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MacGuyver · 01-08-2005, 10:24 PM

I just realized today that most of the food in my house is SUGARFREE or FAT FREE! or ZERO CALORIES! or ATKINS APPROVED! or SOUTH BEACH DIET! And you know what? All of it tastes TERRIBLE!! I'm really sick and tired of the "healthy food" movement of the modern era. You know what, I want to eat what tastes good. The best way to stay healthy is to stop being a fucking lazy ass American and get out and do some god damned excercise. You want healthy food? Go buy something organic.

All these people in the diet product industry are trying to do is get alot of money out of a bunch of suckers who want to be fit, in shape, not fat, skinny, or whatever else these people want to do but dont want to put in alot of effort. Thats the problem, many people don't want to put in the effort to lose thier wieght. You dont NEED to buy all this stuff to get to where you want to be, all you need to do is get away from the T.V. and get outside, or in the gym, and DO something. Yeah, it's hard work, but you know what, nothing comes easily. Someone PLEASE tell me I'm not the only one who thinks this way.

pinkie · 01-08-2005, 10:43 PM

Get used to it. I agree, people who buy that crap are generally suckers, but that's marketing, and it works... Not on everyone, but on the majority of "consumers."

Carno · 01-08-2005, 11:23 PM

Shit yeah. Give me cholesterol or give me death!

I don't allow anything healthy to enter my body. Well, except for that meatless burger I accidently ordered from Denny's that one time..

bermuDa · 01-09-2005, 12:37 AM

we're a culture that holds the appearance of health in high regard while slathered in unhealthy foods and practices; now we've adopted diets that produce the illusion of health but are not healthy at all. Our bodies rely on a balance; whether it's calories and exercise, yin and yang, acid and alkaline, or eating among the food groups. The average american's eating habits throw our bodies out of balance, and when we get tired of looking unhealthy we buy into the miracle diets that only throw our bodies even further out of whack. we're even being led to believe that obesity is a disease and that drugs are our only chance to "cure" ourselves...

Vincentt · 01-09-2005, 08:13 AM

I'm just worried about all the stuff they are putting in the food to replace the sugar... or whatever else.

Stiltzkin · 01-09-2005, 08:43 AM

All right, TFP cookout. We will need our resident expert on steak: Giant Hamburger. We will need giant steak. Anyone? Here's my $5 :: puts down $5 for the collection::

MacGuyver · 01-09-2005, 10:05 AM

I think Abraham Lincoln says I can go to this cookout... :: Slips in a 5'er ::

pinkie · 01-09-2005, 12:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bermuDa

we're a culture that holds the appearance of health in high regard while slathered in unhealthy foods and practices; now we've adopted diets that produce the illusion of health but are not healthy at all. Our bodies rely on a balance; whether it's calories and exercise, yin and yang, acid and alkaline, or eating among the food groups. The average american's eating habits throw our bodies out of balance, and when we get tired of looking unhealthy we buy into the miracle diets that only throw our bodies even further out of whack. we're even being led to believe that obesity is a disease and that drugs are our only chance to "cure" ourselves...

Have you practiced Macrobiotics?

bermuDa · 01-09-2005, 01:43 PM

for the first 12 years of my life or so my family was on the macrobiotic diet. we went on it both to be healthier and to support a friend who was diagnosed with cancer and given six months to live. She said she had not the willpower to stay on such a strict diet, so my parents put us all on the diet to help support her. That was almost 20 years ago and she's still alive today.

Even though my eating habits may not reflect it, I still believe in the power of balance. The concept of harmony within and without the body is sadly lost on many Americans it seems.

Seething · 01-09-2005, 03:23 PM

I think it's funny that most of these "diets" advertise on television either during the middle of the day or late at night. Here's a clue, if you're watching tv when you should be working or when you're up late, those diets aren't going to help you. Get off your ass for a change and do something. People want the best, but don't want to work for it. That's not really new to this generation of humans though. Just chalk this up to typical human behaviour and get over it.

Giant Hamburger · 01-10-2005, 03:32 PM

Who bought all that food in "your" house?

MacGuyver · 01-10-2005, 03:35 PM

Mom does most of the shopping. Yes I still live with my parents. Ain't got no reason to move out. Although I buy my own sugar-loaded type food all the time, and it seems to dissapear rather quickly...

Powderedmaggot · 01-10-2005, 04:03 PM

The best way to keep healthy is not to eat what tastes good and excesize lots. It doesn't matter how fit you are if your arteries are clogged and your heart has to work double time to provide your fit muscles with oxygen. Sooner or later you will succumb to poor eating habits if you fill your body with crap. I fully agree that all this fat free sugar free sucks. I have none of it in my house because it tastes like crap. I also don't have any potatoe chips/pop/..... in my house. I do like to eat the crap I'll admit but I don't buy it and therefore don't eat it unless someone else brings it over. If you eat sensibly and avoid too much of any one thing and avoid most processed foods (chips/deli meat/instant anything/hot dogs/chicken nuggets/.....) you are well on your way to a healthy diet. It's not that hard.

frogza · 01-10-2005, 04:04 PM

These fad diets drive me nuts. When will our society realize that being thin is a biproduct of being healthy. Eating a balanced diet with even moderate excercise keeps you healthy and makes being thin a piece of cake. Eat balanced, get outside an DO SOMETHING ACTIVE WORLD! Studies have shown that exposure to the sun helps reduce cellulite and promote a healthier metabolism. (I know too much exposure can cause skin cancer, that's not what I'm trying to promote here.) Unfortunatly we all have the modern day version of Ulysses' sirens calling us to our deaths, it sits enshrined in our living rooms and we call it TV.

I leave for work about the same time as the kids are getting picked up by the bus in my neighborhood, I can't believe the percentage of kids that are overweight. How can these kids parents look at their kids gasping and wheezing from running from the TV to the dinner table and then go out and buy them more junk food, video games, movies etc.

Anyway, you may have noticed that this is a pet peave of mine.

Powderedmaggot · 01-10-2005, 04:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vincentt

I'm just worried about all the stuff they are putting in the food to replace the sugar... or whatever else.

No shit! What chemicals are they using to simulate sugar? One of my rules is, "If I have to think to pronounce any ingredients I don't want it."

flat5 · 01-10-2005, 04:10 PM

sugar is not the issue about taste or health. Don't eat processed foods.
Eat the stuff that grows in the soil. or eats the soil. or swims. or flys.

If the soil and water are ok, so are you, maybe. good luck.

El Kaz · 01-10-2005, 04:22 PM

What gets me with those fads diet is that many people don't seem to realize the consequences they fear so much are EXTREMES.
What I mean is, sure, an abuse of cholesterol can clog up your arteries, but that doesn't mean you have to run away screaming at the sight of butter! Clogged arteries are the results of ABUSING, not mere consuming.
No, you won't drop dead from an heart attack if you eat KFC once. Heck, even once a week won't show any consequence if you do any exercice at all.

Shpoop · 01-10-2005, 04:47 PM

funny thing is this, if you look around at the grocery store, there are many "sugar free", "no fat added" etc things like that, and they all cost more. why the hell should they cost more?!? the companies are saving money, and charging me more! (well not me, i dont buy that shit, but you get the idea)

Coppertop · 01-10-2005, 04:49 PM

Tell me about it. If I don't accompany my girlfriend to the grocery store, I'll be stuck with that same type of food. It's bad enough as it is now. Turkey burgers? Turkey tacos? Ugh.

Vegetables = what food eats.

Suave · 01-10-2005, 04:52 PM

I share your viewpoint in the fact that exercise, not stupid, worthless, and unhealthy fad diets is the way to go. However, I do like a lot of the "Atkins friendly" "low cal" foods. I LOVE Kraft light peanut butter for example, and enjoy Doritos (who have recently been advertising that they contain zero trans fats). Also enjoy some lean cuisine, etc.

clavus · 01-10-2005, 05:05 PM

I think Foamy said it best -

http://www.illwillpress.com/rant4.html

Carno · 01-10-2005, 05:14 PM

Hah.... good stuff.

MacGuyver · 01-10-2005, 07:27 PM

Definately said it best! haha. All the rest of us just use bigger words and less violence, but it boils down to Foamy.

Shpoop · 01-10-2005, 07:42 PM

and like suave mentioned, whats wiht all this trans fat crap? last thing i could remember was that saturated fat was the worst type, and all the health-oriented foods advertised their low percentages of that...now someone came up with a worse type of fat, and almost all foods seem to have 0% of it...so now they can advertise themselves as dieter friendly. oh well, people are stupid.

Coppertop · 01-11-2005, 12:02 AM

Nice find Clavus.

01-08-2005, 10:24 PM	#1 (permalink)
MacGuyver You're going to have to trust me! Location: Massachusetts	Sugar Free (Rant) I just realized today that most of the food in my house is SUGARFREE or FAT FREE! or ZERO CALORIES! or ATKINS APPROVED! or SOUTH BEACH DIET! And you know what? All of it tastes TERRIBLE!! I'm really sick and tired of the "healthy food" movement of the modern era. You know what, I want to eat what tastes good. The best way to stay healthy is to stop being a fucking lazy ass American and get out and do some god damned excercise. You want healthy food? Go buy something organic. All these people in the diet product industry are trying to do is get alot of money out of a bunch of suckers who want to be fit, in shape, not fat, skinny, or whatever else these people want to do but dont want to put in alot of effort. Thats the problem, many people don't want to put in the effort to lose thier wieght. You dont NEED to buy all this stuff to get to where you want to be, all you need to do is get away from the T.V. and get outside, or in the gym, and DO something. Yeah, it's hard work, but you know what, nothing comes easily. Someone PLEASE tell me I'm not the only one who thinks this way. __________________ We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence then, is not an act, but a habit. ---Aristotle Deeds, not words, shall speak [for] me. ---John Fletcher

01-09-2005, 12:37 AM	#4 (permalink)
bermuDa don't ignore this--> Location: CA	we're a culture that holds the appearance of health in high regard while slathered in unhealthy foods and practices; now we've adopted diets that produce the illusion of health but are not healthy at all. Our bodies rely on a balance; whether it's calories and exercise, yin and yang, acid and alkaline, or eating among the food groups. The average american's eating habits throw our bodies out of balance, and when we get tired of looking unhealthy we buy into the miracle diets that only throw our bodies even further out of whack. we're even being led to believe that obesity is a disease and that drugs are our only chance to "cure" ourselves... __________________ I am the very model of a moderator gentleman. Last edited by bermuDa; 01-09-2005 at 12:40 AM..

01-09-2005, 08:43 AM	#6 (permalink)
Stiltzkin Junkie	All right, TFP cookout. We will need our resident expert on steak: Giant Hamburger. We will need giant steak. Anyone? Here's my $5 :: puts down $5 for the collection:: __________________ The most important thing in this world is love.

01-09-2005, 10:05 AM	#7 (permalink)
MacGuyver You're going to have to trust me! Location: Massachusetts	I think Abraham Lincoln says I can go to this cookout... :: Slips in a 5'er :: __________________ We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence then, is not an act, but a habit. ---Aristotle Deeds, not words, shall speak [for] me. ---John Fletcher

01-09-2005, 01:43 PM	#9 (permalink)
bermuDa don't ignore this--> Location: CA	for the first 12 years of my life or so my family was on the macrobiotic diet. we went on it both to be healthier and to support a friend who was diagnosed with cancer and given six months to live. She said she had not the willpower to stay on such a strict diet, so my parents put us all on the diet to help support her. That was almost 20 years ago and she's still alive today. Even though my eating habits may not reflect it, I still believe in the power of balance. The concept of harmony within and without the body is sadly lost on many Americans it seems. __________________ I am the very model of a moderator gentleman.

01-08-2005, 10:43 PM	#2 (permalink)
pinkie Helplessly hoping Location: Above the stars	Get used to it. I agree, people who buy that crap are generally suckers, but that's marketing, and it works... Not on everyone, but on the majority of "consumers."

01-08-2005, 11:23 PM	#3 (permalink)
Carno Junkie	Shit yeah. Give me cholesterol or give me death! I don't allow anything healthy to enter my body. Well, except for that meatless burger I accidently ordered from Denny's that one time..

01-09-2005, 08:13 AM	#5 (permalink)
Vincentt Addict Location: Tokyo, Japan	I'm just worried about all the stuff they are putting in the food to replace the sugar... or whatever else.

01-09-2005, 03:23 PM	#10 (permalink)
Seething Insane	I think it's funny that most of these "diets" advertise on television either during the middle of the day or late at night. Here's a clue, if you're watching tv when you should be working or when you're up late, those diets aren't going to help you. Get off your ass for a change and do something. People want the best, but don't want to work for it. That's not really new to this generation of humans though. Just chalk this up to typical human behaviour and get over it. __________________ Common sense is uncommon. Ironic, isn't it?

01-10-2005, 03:32 PM	#11 (permalink)
Giant Hamburger Gastrolithuanian Location: low-velocity Earth orbit	Who bought all that food in "your" house?

01-10-2005, 03:35 PM	#12 (permalink)
MacGuyver You're going to have to trust me! Location: Massachusetts	Mom does most of the shopping. Yes I still live with my parents. Ain't got no reason to move out. Although I buy my own sugar-loaded type food all the time, and it seems to dissapear rather quickly... __________________ We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence then, is not an act, but a habit. ---Aristotle Deeds, not words, shall speak [for] me. ---John Fletcher

01-10-2005, 04:03 PM	#13 (permalink)
Powderedmaggot Banned	The best way to keep healthy is not to eat what tastes good and excesize lots. It doesn't matter how fit you are if your arteries are clogged and your heart has to work double time to provide your fit muscles with oxygen. Sooner or later you will succumb to poor eating habits if you fill your body with crap. I fully agree that all this fat free sugar free sucks. I have none of it in my house because it tastes like crap. I also don't have any potatoe chips/pop/..... in my house. I do like to eat the crap I'll admit but I don't buy it and therefore don't eat it unless someone else brings it over. If you eat sensibly and avoid too much of any one thing and avoid most processed foods (chips/deli meat/instant anything/hot dogs/chicken nuggets/.....) you are well on your way to a healthy diet. It's not that hard.

01-10-2005, 04:04 PM	#14 (permalink)
frogza Registered User Location: Right Here	These fad diets drive me nuts. When will our society realize that being thin is a biproduct of being healthy. Eating a balanced diet with even moderate excercise keeps you healthy and makes being thin a piece of cake. Eat balanced, get outside an DO SOMETHING ACTIVE WORLD! Studies have shown that exposure to the sun helps reduce cellulite and promote a healthier metabolism. (I know too much exposure can cause skin cancer, that's not what I'm trying to promote here.) Unfortunatly we all have the modern day version of Ulysses' sirens calling us to our deaths, it sits enshrined in our living rooms and we call it TV. I leave for work about the same time as the kids are getting picked up by the bus in my neighborhood, I can't believe the percentage of kids that are overweight. How can these kids parents look at their kids gasping and wheezing from running from the TV to the dinner table and then go out and buy them more junk food, video games, movies etc. Anyway, you may have noticed that this is a pet peave of mine.

01-10-2005, 04:10 PM	#16 (permalink)
flat5 Very Insignificant Pawn Location: Amsterdam, NL	sugar is not the issue about taste or health. Don't eat processed foods. Eat the stuff that grows in the soil. or eats the soil. or swims. or flys. If the soil and water are ok, so are you, maybe. good luck.

01-10-2005, 04:22 PM	#17 (permalink)
El Kaz Crazy Location: Canada	What gets me with those fads diet is that many people don't seem to realize the consequences they fear so much are EXTREMES. What I mean is, sure, an abuse of cholesterol can clog up your arteries, but that doesn't mean you have to run away screaming at the sight of butter! Clogged arteries are the results of ABUSING, not mere consuming. No, you won't drop dead from an heart attack if you eat KFC once. Heck, even once a week won't show any consequence if you do any exercice at all.

01-10-2005, 05:05 PM	#21 (permalink)
clavus pow! Location: NorCal	I think Foamy said it best - http://www.illwillpress.com/rant4.html __________________ Ass, gas or grass. Nobody rides for free.

01-11-2005, 12:02 AM	#25 (permalink)
Coppertop Getting Medieval on your ass Location: 13th century Europe	Nice find Clavus.

01-10-2005, 04:47 PM	#18 (permalink)
Shpoop Curious Location: NJ (but just for college)	funny thing is this, if you look around at the grocery store, there are many "sugar free", "no fat added" etc things like that, and they all cost more. why the hell should they cost more?!? the companies are saving money, and charging me more! (well not me, i dont buy that shit, but you get the idea)

01-10-2005, 04:49 PM	#19 (permalink)
Coppertop Getting Medieval on your ass Location: 13th century Europe	Tell me about it. If I don't accompany my girlfriend to the grocery store, I'll be stuck with that same type of food. It's bad enough as it is now. Turkey burgers? Turkey tacos? Ugh. Vegetables = what food eats.

01-10-2005, 04:52 PM	#20 (permalink)
Suave Twitterpated Location: My own little world (also Canada)	I share your viewpoint in the fact that exercise, not stupid, worthless, and unhealthy fad diets is the way to go. However, I do like a lot of the "Atkins friendly" "low cal" foods. I LOVE Kraft light peanut butter for example, and enjoy Doritos (who have recently been advertising that they contain zero trans fats). Also enjoy some lean cuisine, etc. __________________ "Few people are capable of expressing with equanimity opinions which differ from the prejudices of their social environment. Most people are even incapable of forming such opinions." - Albert Einstein "Wise men talk because they have something to say; fools, because they have to say something." - Plato

01-10-2005, 05:14 PM	#22 (permalink)
Carno Junkie	Hah.... good stuff.

01-10-2005, 07:27 PM	#23 (permalink)
MacGuyver You're going to have to trust me! Location: Massachusetts	Definately said it best! haha. All the rest of us just use bigger words and less violence, but it boils down to Foamy. __________________ We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence then, is not an act, but a habit. ---Aristotle Deeds, not words, shall speak [for] me. ---John Fletcher

01-10-2005, 07:42 PM	#24 (permalink)
Shpoop Curious Location: NJ (but just for college)	and like suave mentioned, whats wiht all this trans fat crap? last thing i could remember was that saturated fat was the worst type, and all the health-oriented foods advertised their low percentages of that...now someone came up with a worse type of fat, and almost all foods seem to have 0% of it...so now they can advertise themselves as dieter friendly. oh well, people are stupid.