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SVT01Cobra · 03-06-2005, 10:13 PM

What goes around comes around.
I guarantee you that guy will think twice before he bullies someone else, eh?

Reminds me why I always tried to stay on everyone's good side.

Mojo_PeiPei · 03-06-2005, 10:40 PM

Just have to throw in my two cents here.

I don't think the kid is a hero for shanking his bully in the face. I don't run like that, hell he doesn't even get points for lashing out like that. I can see where he is coming from, guess I was lucky to never have been picked on growing up.

But bottom line, as cliche as it sounds, it's all about respect. Whether at a party, on the playground, in the office. No doubt Respect is earned, but at the same time, people who tolerate someone disrespecting them, walking away or trying to take some moral high road, you're cowards, that's why people have picked on you, because they don't respect you.

I'm not condoning mindless violence, but you need a reality check, you need some bite to go with that bark. People tend to be assholes, the only way you can help them with that is to let them know when they slip up. If someone is running their mouth, disrespecting you, getting in your face, you're a punk if you walk a way or turn the cheek.

KMA-628 · 03-06-2005, 10:55 PM

I'm lucky. Because of my size, I rarely had any problems with bullies. Plus, the one and only time I had to really deal with a bully, I punched him in the mouth (3rd Grade in an elementary school where the freakin' gang bangers had business cards...no shit, they did....in elementary school no less and this was a couple decades ago).

Anyway, my son is more than likely going to be even bigger than I am (all males in our family are six-foot plus--all females are around six-foot), so hopefully he won't have too many problems.

I have already had "the talk" with my oldest daughter, and when my son is old enough, I will tell him the same thing.

1) Always be nice to everybody....there is no exception. Everybody deserves your respect in the beginning, they lose that respect by their own choosing.

2) Always stand up for the little guy. Because you are big, most kids will know better than to mess with you. However, if you ever see somebody being hurt/abused/beaten/whatever, you do whatever you can to stop it. If that means tell a teacher, than tell a teacher. If that means physically break it up, than physically break it up. If you get in trouble for keeping someone from hurting another person that is smaller than them or less able than them, I will never be angry with you.

3) Never, ever let yourself be pushed around. Ever. Because, more often than not, you will continue to be pushed around. Don't ever be the victim.

And, the one my dad taught me (the same guy who also taught me how to disarm a guy pointing a gun at me--gotta love being raised by a cop)

4) There is no such thing as a fair fight, there is only a fight, and you do whatever you need to do to win that fight....unless you started the fight....because if that's the case, then I'm gonna kick your ass.

I would hope, as a parent, that I might have stepped in more forcibly earlier if I noticed my kid have a problem like this. That being said, I would be proud of my kid for taking a stand and not letting himself be pushed around more. I would gladly pay the fine and accompany him to community service.

The kid just learned a huge lesson and he will be better off for it.

Carno · 03-07-2005, 06:50 AM

Well, I like to fight, so I think the kid did the right thing. Probably shouldn't have used a pencil, but whatever will win you the fight I guess.

03-06-2005, 10:40 PM	#82 (permalink)
Mojo_PeiPei Kiss of Death Location: Perpetual wind and sorrow	Just have to throw in my two cents here. I don't think the kid is a hero for shanking his bully in the face. I don't run like that, hell he doesn't even get points for lashing out like that. I can see where he is coming from, guess I was lucky to never have been picked on growing up. But bottom line, as cliche as it sounds, it's all about respect. Whether at a party, on the playground, in the office. No doubt Respect is earned, but at the same time, people who tolerate someone disrespecting them, walking away or trying to take some moral high road, you're cowards, that's why people have picked on you, because they don't respect you. I'm not condoning mindless violence, but you need a reality check, you need some bite to go with that bark. People tend to be assholes, the only way you can help them with that is to let them know when they slip up. If someone is running their mouth, disrespecting you, getting in your face, you're a punk if you walk a way or turn the cheek. __________________ To win a war you must serve no master but your ambition.

03-06-2005, 10:55 PM	#83 (permalink)
KMA-628 ....is off his meds...you were warned. Location: The Wild Wild West	I'm lucky. Because of my size, I rarely had any problems with bullies. Plus, the one and only time I had to really deal with a bully, I punched him in the mouth (3rd Grade in an elementary school where the freakin' gang bangers had business cards...no shit, they did....in elementary school no less and this was a couple decades ago). Anyway, my son is more than likely going to be even bigger than I am (all males in our family are six-foot plus--all females are around six-foot), so hopefully he won't have too many problems. I have already had "the talk" with my oldest daughter, and when my son is old enough, I will tell him the same thing. 1) Always be nice to everybody....there is no exception. Everybody deserves your respect in the beginning, they lose that respect by their own choosing. 2) Always stand up for the little guy. Because you are big, most kids will know better than to mess with you. However, if you ever see somebody being hurt/abused/beaten/whatever, you do whatever you can to stop it. If that means tell a teacher, than tell a teacher. If that means physically break it up, than physically break it up. If you get in trouble for keeping someone from hurting another person that is smaller than them or less able than them, I will never be angry with you. 3) Never, ever let yourself be pushed around. Ever. Because, more often than not, you will continue to be pushed around. Don't ever be the victim. And, the one my dad taught me (the same guy who also taught me how to disarm a guy pointing a gun at me--gotta love being raised by a cop) 4) There is no such thing as a fair fight, there is only a fight, and you do whatever you need to do to win that fight....unless you started the fight....because if that's the case, then I'm gonna kick your ass. I would hope, as a parent, that I might have stepped in more forcibly earlier if I noticed my kid have a problem like this. That being said, I would be proud of my kid for taking a stand and not letting himself be pushed around more. I would gladly pay the fine and accompany him to community service. The kid just learned a huge lesson and he will be better off for it. __________________ Before you criticize someone, you need to walk a mile in their shoes. That way, if they get angry at you.......you're a mile away.......and they're barefoot.

03-06-2005, 10:13 PM	#81 (permalink)
SVT01Cobra Psycho Location: Somewhere, Missouri	What goes around comes around. I guarantee you that guy will think twice before he bullies someone else, eh? Reminds me why I always tried to stay on everyone's good side.

03-07-2005, 06:50 AM	#84 (permalink)
Carno Junkie	Well, I like to fight, so I think the kid did the right thing. Probably shouldn't have used a pencil, but whatever will win you the fight I guess.