Jam

i am posting this here because i need to vent, it will probably be somewhat of a ramble becuase this shit is all messed up in my head and i dont know what im going to be writing.

i suppose i should start at the begining.

when i started my job i was working after school, i was paid less then minimum wage was at the current time. I worked after school most days of the week, probably until 9 on average, and all saturday. during this time, myself and the other after school kids were always picked on by the bossman (from hence forth refered to as the great ass). we would always be doing hard labour such as moving wheel barrels of gravel, dirt, whatever all over the place, digging trenches etc. also yard work such as mowing lawns, cleaning up the warehouses, sweeping and such.

once i got my drivers liscnce i also went out in the pickup truck and picked stuff up on saturdays.

after a while i started shipping, we pick orders and wrap them and such.

during the summers we would work full days 6 days a week.

oh did i mention no overtime, ever?

well as time progressed, my last year of highschool i talked to my boss and started working shipping days and saturdays only (3 days a week) shipping days are the long days. coming up on the end of school i was old enough to get my air ticket so i could drive his trucks, he paid me to do this so i did.

school ends... wawhoo or so i though ...

now he has me working 6 days a week again, days start at 830, but have no set end time.. could be anywhere from 5 until 10 on regular days (non shipping) and probably averaged around 7 ish. this was the slow time of year so he decided he would give me wed. off. fine by me. during this time i work in the warehouse cleaning, organizing, shipping, and also driving the trucks.

well now it rolls around he wants me back for six days a week, he wont say that tho, he just tries every tuesday, "see you tomorow", and i reply with the whole no i dont work on wed so i already made plans, because if i am in one wed he will have me there every wed.

so things i do include but not limited to, shipping, cleaning, organizing, driving, building, painting,(including his house), yard work, and so many things i dont remeber at the time of this ramble.

I would say i have worked there for about four years now... it is the only job i have ever had.

now lets get into why i dislike this hellhole and the great assman.

he makes fun of me, and other younger employees.

he makes fun of me in dutch right infront of me to other people, knowing I dont know what hes saying

he makes fun of my tee shirt being dirty and gets mad, even thought that is dirt collected from working throughout the day (jee i dont work in the office like you asshole)

this one guy there... they dont like him, hes a buddy of mine, they treat him like shit, his raises dont come often and dont follow anyone elses. he was invited the christmas dinner one year, but not the next, they have certain orders they will let him pick on shipping nights because "if he does the harder ones he will fuck them up", this is not true this guy is a good worker and has made alot of progress when he was there.. he does mess up on orders some times, but everyone does, i have caught screw ups my boss, the assman, and his sidekick the blister have made. the way they treat him really really gets on my nerves.

the assman doesnt know what goes on because i am a driver i do what the transportation manager tells me, such as getting stuff ready so i can go driving and be back sometime that day. however the assman will get upset if dont do something stupid like empty the garbage can in the office or some stupid thing like that.

now heres the safety section of my little story.

hah.

ok well weve move fully loaded pallet racking by putting pallet jacks under and putting boards across. moving a top heave pallet rack is dangerous enuogh.. but for ones where the pallet jack cant fit around the end (say its against a wall) we have to put a board from one side to the other and make a little frame so it wont tip over... it takes about a minute to screw it together so its safe... the great ass decides we shouldnt do that and that we should just wedge a broken peice of board in there to hold it together (on one of his visits to annoy out from the office). now weve moved these things before and we know how to do it.. but he comes out and fucks it all up and makes it extremely diffictult and take way longer then it should because he figures his way is best..

more saftey stories

unloading a container of shifted pallets of bails of soil. these things are very heavy and many pallets tipped.. one destroyed our steel pallet jack... probably about 5 almost landed on me.

i was up in the cieling and we were taking out old insulation... my boss tells us not to bother with the cheap paper masks... he works out there for a while... next day is coughing and gagging and tells us we should have masks on..

later on, same insulation we are (well me, i was the only one there on a sunday) i was up in the roof of one of the shops, its probably 16 feet to the cieling and i was up on top, its poorly lit and the ply wood is held on with staples, so i need to make sure to only stand on the 2 by 4's... well im covering this with insulation... hard to see what im standing on, luckily didnt fall through..

ahh eys painting safety...

my other buddy there was paingint my bosses house on the top of a ladder that was on the top of a stack of pallets..

we had a ladder on the top of one of the trucks and leaning against his house..

we had 2x 4's from the truck roof to the house roof with a ladder balanced on top

weve crawled on the house roof ( lots of peaks) and reached over the edges..

weve painted the cielling of the shop from the the truck roof, workers comp came that day and told us there needed to be a gaurd rail on the top of the truck

we also had 2x6s across 2 stacks off pallets as make shift scafolding

my buddy ended up falling off a ladder and breaking his wrist there... my boss paid him the time he was out to avoid workers comp and they lied to workers comp and said he wasnt ddoing it at work.

i think thats good for safety stories for now, its 1 am and i dont remeber anymore at the current time..

now when i started out driving it wasnt that bad i didnt go anywhere to bad but then he started sending me into the city and stuff when i still had little experience... i ended up telling him i didnt want to drive.. he said ok, but i ended up being a driver anyways, i still drive, i do deleveriess and pickups on shipping days and go places other days of the week too.

he needs me for other things on shipping days tho, so he finaly got a new driver... he quit... then he put me back, now he got a new one again.

usualy the drivers were much older then me (like semi retirement) so i kind of understand them making more money then me.. this new guy is in my age range.

this is the clencher.. he on his first day there... doing only part of what i do, already makes more money then me..

this isnt about the money

it is simply about the fact that after all the bullshit ive put up with and with some 4 years of loyalty or what have you... some guy he gets out of no where is worth more to him then I am.. I feel very upset that he doesnt value me as an employee, because i know he abuses me as one

more to come im sure... this was just some things i needed to get off my chest but im sure i missed some it being some 1 20 in the morning after another 12 hour day .. (some days are more like 15 or 16 hours when its the busy season)

Manic_Skafe

I feel your pain.

I work a bullshit job under shitty work conditions, unfair practices, favoritism, and people talking about me behind my back in other languages.

The best thing I can suggest is to take none of this personal. You're just another gear in the machine like most of the people in this work force and if it weren't you it'd be someone else.

Why aren't you looking for another job? I'm sure someone would be willing to hire you. You might not have the most varied experience but the fact that you managed to stay with the same place for 4 years is nothing to laugh at.

I don't know if you're in America or not, but you can sue your boss for talking another language while you're working. As long as it makes you feel uncomfortable it's harassment so if you can sue him.

Best o' luck.

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jay-g

Its ok man... You are using him, and he is using you. The companies i have come across, is the same scenario. They really dont care about you. I am sure there are some companies that truly do. I have yet came across one. But in your case, after all those years, he should somewhat like you as a person. You have put up with his bull, and crap jobs for all these years. He should show you some respect and gratitude.

Destrox

Maybe I'm just cold or whatever, but I mean no offense by this.

Just quit and get another job, its that easy.

Why sit there moaning and bitching when you can go and get another job that doesnt pay so shitty, treat you so horribly, and give horrible hours.

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tecoyah

Just curious.....what city are you in....maybe I can help.

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Iliftrocks

Welcome to the real world.

I can't count the number of sorry asses I've worked for.

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Holo

Amen.


You've been there four years, and if you got raises put those on your resume/applications when you go looking. Even if he talks shit about you (which I believe they "legally" cannot do) they can't argue with 4 years without being fired and no writeups. That job is unhealthy physically and emotionally, and the safety issues will continue until someone gets killed. Every warehouse cuts safety corners, and shipping businesses are hell to work for. Just quit and find something else. You're young and have experience in a certain field....if you stay in that field you*will* find another job that wants you. Hope you saved some "fuck you money" like someone on here says and just quit, since you won't be able to lok for a job with those hours.

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Cynthetiq

looks like it's time to move on...

you paid your dues to doing a good job and now it's time to collect what you are really worth...

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Jam

unfortunately no i havent saved any fuck you money, infact i bought a 2004 cavalier and i still have about 5 grand to pay off which i need to do by fall so i can quit and go back to school

thanks for the replies people

oh this is a small company btw

Bobaphat

I can't say I am sympathetic to your cause. This is life, if you don't like it, quit.

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feelgood

Join the club, I'm almost in the same situation but compared to you, I guess I have it pretty good.

I would tell you my story but it'll be hijacking this thread eh?

You're young and everybody that starts out working jobs will have shitty job at first with the exception of few and eventually you'll work your way up to jobs that you'll enjoy.

It's call the ladder son.

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spived2

Join the Army. That way you can have asshole bosses, but with good benefits.

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2kids1headache

Does your asshole boss ever talk about competitors? Take one of your Wednesdays and go try to get a job with one of them. You should always be aware of who the competitors in your field are, so that you'll know where to go when you get tired of working for someone.

moonstrucksoul

my question is are you still working under the table, if you are there isn' anything you can really do except quit if you don't like the conditions.

employers love to pay people under the table because they can't say much about anything. if you died on the job, and no other employee saw it, he wouldn't have to do dick for your family.

not to mention that working under the table doesn't get you anything for your unemployment benefits.

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rockzilla

So, why exactly are you working there?

NetterButter

as much as i dislike Target, being one of the managers...

its a great place for youngins!
the corporation DO care because they have RESTRICTIONS for minors...for example:
- they cannot work more than 4 hours a day unless they take a work experience class, then they can work 6 hours.
- they can't work more than 20 hours, again, if they have work experience, they can work up to 32.
- they can never stay longer than 10pm, EVER! so if you work on a friday or saturday night, you're ok to go hand with your pals afterwards.
- they aren't allowed to use heavy equipment in case they get hurt.
- they can't work overtime.

i mean, these kids have it all! when i was 17, i was slaving away at the dairy queen every freakin school night!
so if you're interested in a part time, or maybe full time job, Target is great....

BUT that's until you promote to the top and want to strangle everyone.

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Jam

i was never working under the table, not ever.



as far as your question (next guy) as to why i work there.. i already said, i have about 5 grand left to pay for my car


and yes i do know who the competitors are

JStrider

if you were paid less then minimum wage you must have been under the table...

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sailor

Quit. Leave. It obviously isnt a cush job that you want to keep, and it doesnt pay that well, so just go find another one.

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tecoyah

All those things are part of the "federal child labor act" Target has no choice, unless they wish to break the law.

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2kids1headache

There's something for you to do: sue based on your employer's failure to obey the Federal Child Labor Act.

bender

Open the paper and get another 2 or 3 jobs lined up and accept them.
Go into your boss and give him notice, ask for a ref. letter.
Working in a situation where you may be hurt or killed isn't worth the time or effort, all it'll take is getting another job.
Your a driver and there are hundreds of jobs for one with your skills.

Jam

no i wasnt under the table or they wouldnt have been taking off taxes

Boo

Sell the car and move on.

Life is too short to live (or die a mishap death for) just to pay for a car.

Its also too short to work for an asshole long term.

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Jam

no way im not selling my car, i just got it and its almost done being paid for

Jam

sorry more venting dont reply if you dont want i dont care

today was 15 hours.. i left in a relatively good mood... (yesterday was probably about 13 hours), and i was driving home my buddy... he works there after school two days and sat. he worked there maybe a few months before me... but he also quit for like 4 months or something too. anyways today is payday... he got a dollar raise... now not only is the new guy more valuable then me, but so is my friend who works after school (and also to note isnt a driver...) bah im fucking pissed off if i didnt have 5 grand left to pay on my car!

mr sticky

Next Wednesday, go find you another job...it won't be that hard to replace a shitty job with low pay. Go out and surprise yourself!

I'm sure you can be employed probably that day. Also, if the hours aren't enough, get a second shitty job.

I do feel your pain dude.

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water_boy1999

Sounds like you are in a jam, jam. Couple things....I am in the staffing industry so I do speak from lots of experience. Minimum wage, for one, is legally the least a company can pay you for work. If you are making less than minimum wage, your *great ass* manager is breaking the law. You are working overtime? Are you being paid for it? If not, your *great ass* manager is breaking the law. Safety seems to be a major issue with the *great ass*. READ THIS: HE IS BREAKING THE LAW!!!!!! In fact, there are all sorts of issues that he seems oblivious to: child labor laws, harassment laws, wage laws, and safety laws.

You can do several things:
QUIT!!! Why are you still there? I don't care that you have to pay off your car. You can get another job that pays you what you are legally worth and save up faster. Did you think of that?

Have you tried talking to your boss about some of these things he is doing? Perhaps you will gain some respect if you show him you are deserving of it. If you continue to let him treat you this way, he will. Are you afraid of losing your job if you speak up? GOOD! Tell the mother fucker off and get a better job bro!

Have you thought about reporting him to the appropriate labor authorities?

I understand your frustrations, but you are the one who can make the difference. Therefore, and I don't mean to offend you, but I don't have a lot of sympathy for you if you are willing to LET this guy walk all over you.

Best of luck in what you choose to do.

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Jam

well im going to school in december so i dont think i can get a new job and pay it off before then...

i am not making below minimum now... im getting 12... min is 8... i WAS getting below what minimum was before... like four years ago..

i was in charge of everyone on sat because the boss was out of the country so i dont see how i need to prove myslef

once my cars paid for i will quit i just need somewhere to vent and thats what this is for sorry if you dont sympathise



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today apparently he was saying shit about me again and i justt found out the whole time i was on vacation he was making fun of me


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a conclusion.. he was going to fire me mon night over the phone talking to my mom... tues omorn hes more rational and probably realizes he needs me there .. i quit the end