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Old 04-28-2003, 03:22 AM   #1 (permalink)
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When a couple gets married or decides to make a lifetime committment where they reside in the same household, Do you feel they should join their income as well, or do you feel it should remain separate?
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Old 04-28-2003, 03:26 AM   #2 (permalink)
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I think a certain percentage of what they earn should be pooled and then each gets their own spending money from the remainder that they are free to do whatever with. Dunno how well it would work but I thought it was a pretty cool idea, after seeing a few families where one or the other of them works while the other one does all the money managing, and the one who works ends up not actually being able to buy anything they want (even a coke or whatever O_o)
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Old 04-28-2003, 03:46 AM   #3 (permalink)
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i believe it's something that has to be worked out between the parties involved...no easy task, either...
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Old 04-28-2003, 03:51 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Atropos and I have a joint checking account we both put an equal amount in (one fourth of our monthly bills weekly)this way we each pay exactly half of the bills. niether pays more!
Then we have our seperate accounts for saving or spending.
We have eliminated the need to argue over money this way.
the bills are paid, no one feels cheated.
I can't complain about what she "wastes" her money on....it's hers.
she can't complain about how I "invest" my money.......it's mine
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Old 04-28-2003, 04:16 AM   #5 (permalink)
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Old 04-28-2003, 04:39 AM   #6 (permalink)
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When Lurkette and I joined lives, we joined money. Not that there was much to join at the time.... We were about three weeks out of college and didn't have jobs yet.

We've always had joint checking, savings, and credit cards. We communicate pretty well about money, so it's really not been much of an issue.

Lately I've gotten involved in some projects that take some money, and we concluded that it was unfair to draw on common funds for that. So we each opened individual checking accounts, and we get an allowance of $200/month from our joint account. That way I've got "my" money and she's got "hers", which is at our discretion to spend however we want. Groceries and bills still come out of the joint account.
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Old 04-28-2003, 04:41 AM   #7 (permalink)
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My wife and I have everything joint. I also earn about 10 times more than her so she is definately getting the better of the deal :P
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Old 04-28-2003, 05:12 AM   #8 (permalink)
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my wife and I pooled everything together. We have a spending allowance she handles all the financials such as paying all the bills and saving money. If we did it any other way I would have squandered it all.

She's a saver, I'm a spender, together we're spend thrifty.

It took a bit to get used to because I had never allowed anyone dictate how I spend my money. She has never had enough to spend. So between the two of us we are able to balance it out.

We still have some separate accounts, which will change over time because of laws. (meaning if something happens to me/her then there is no access to those accounts because the spouse name does not appear.) We decided to keep those accounts and add the other's name and use them separately so long as the bank does not charge us for them.
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Old 04-28-2003, 05:32 AM   #9 (permalink)
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I think every couple should do it the way that works best for them. I know different couples who do it both ways, and for some, combining money works best, while others prefer to keep it separate.
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Old 04-28-2003, 06:38 AM   #10 (permalink)
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I never understood the separate money thing. I know people that do it, though. My wife and I have joint accounts, no separate money. The only reasons to have your own account would be to hide something or if you have some psychological issues-not being sarcastic. Let me explain, if you have a separate account then you have a part of your life that is yours and yours alone. Why do you need that? Does it give you strength? No. It does give you some independence though and it's something that no one else can touch but you. You've combined everything, but money is still separate...you have your safety net in case things go bad.

Just my take...what do I know though.
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Old 04-28-2003, 06:42 AM   #11 (permalink)
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I believe it is a decision that each couple has to make for themselves, and that they should do whatever they are both comfortable with. I do, however, believe that pooling your money together and being in agreement on all expenditures is the better way to go, and that is how my wife and I do it.
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Old 04-28-2003, 09:45 AM   #12 (permalink)
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All these years it has just been our money. Used for what ever was needed. If we had money for toys we usually were in agreement when we got them. If the kids need something we agree on that also.

Now that we are older I am trying to convince my wife to put money aside in an account for her in case something happens to me so she won't have to wait for probate.

It's a partner / trust thing. I make nearly 3 times what my wife makes a year but it has never bothered me. The money belongs to the marriage.

However, if I had to start again I would have to think long and hard about sharing like that with someone else. I have kids and grandkids to think about and if someone I was serious about had the same, then I'm sure that some things would have to be in writing.
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Old 04-28-2003, 09:53 AM   #13 (permalink)
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Well,

I hope I don't stick my foot in it, but when I commit to someone, it's total. I never understood keeping finances separate. Unfortunately, my ex had MAJOR issues with money. When I made more money, she was fine with sharing, but when she made more, suddenly issues started to come up.

Whatever a couple does, they had better talk about expectations just so there aren't surprises and hard feelings.

Love of money truely is the root of all evil.
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Old 04-28-2003, 09:57 AM   #14 (permalink)
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i'm not married, nor have been, so take this with a grain of salt.....

i think it should be done two ways.

first off, both people need to sit down frequently with their checks and balances. they need to see what bills there are and how much money they both have. they need to pay the bills, then figure out what they _need_ next.
after that I think they should kind of do as they will with their dough.

all important shit taken care of, as a couple, then semi-resume your private funds.
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Old 04-28-2003, 09:58 AM   #15 (permalink)
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We have a joint checking account and I do not touch the checkbook. Everytime I touch it something goes terribly wrong with the entire world's bookkeeping system - a monetraty catastrophe of world shaking proportion takes palce. I take out what I need for walkin' around money and leave the rest well enough alone.
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Old 04-28-2003, 10:17 AM   #16 (permalink)
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I think you need to evaluate each person's spending habits - AND the other person's attitude towards the habit. In other words, is there a mutual trust? My girlfriend has said to me on numerous occasions that I should handle financial affairs. I will, too (her paycheck will go straight to me), for several reasons - she doesn't trust herself and I don't necessarily trust her track record either.

So I will control funds. But the funds will belong to the marriage, with joint bank accounts, investment accounts, etc.

I liked the point made above by rockogre about making sure both partners have credit. Its nice to have "together" assets, but you may want to consider making sure the person with lower income takes out a loan on their own to buy a car, etc. This way you can have a little peace of mind.
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Old 04-28-2003, 11:54 AM   #17 (permalink)
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I manage the money, she does not work outside the house since we have kids. Neither one of us is great with money but I try to set a budget up for certain things like food and clothes. I just have money automatically deposited twice a month into her account and if she needs more, then one of us just transfers from our joint account which pays the majority of the bills.
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Old 04-28-2003, 12:00 PM   #18 (permalink)
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We got married, and I quit my job to stay home with the kids, so we only have the one income, but we still would have gone totally joint, because she doesn't like having to deal with the finances. I don't abuse the trust, to the point of annoying her by telling her every little thing I spend money on.
 
Old 04-28-2003, 12:02 PM   #19 (permalink)
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Old 04-28-2003, 12:12 PM   #20 (permalink)
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Never done it myself I but I've learned from other people that it's generally a very bad idea to do so. Plus, my money is my money, no one else's.
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Old 04-28-2003, 01:50 PM   #21 (permalink)
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I think every couple should do it the way that works best for them. I know different couples who do it both ways, and for some, combining money works best, while others prefer to keep it separate.
Right. The amount of money at hand is also a huge factor. I think I'd keep some seperate if I ever got married.
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Old 04-28-2003, 05:18 PM   #22 (permalink)
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Total commitment = total commitment.

Financial, physical, spiritual. There is no more "mine" and "yours" its all ours. Its not easy to make that kind of a commitment, but once you do it, and do it completely, everyone is better off (unless one of you is faking it or insane).
I like the way you put this.
I realized while reviewing this that I hadn't given my opinion. Clavus here pretty much sums it up.
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Old 04-28-2003, 06:17 PM   #23 (permalink)
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When my first wife finally went to work, she kept her money
and mine was still used for everything else.....

My second wife and I pooled our money---she is a great book keeper---when we want something special, she will keep two
or three savings accounts running inside of one check book---

of coarse, I am like LQ, I never touch the check book---my memory gets a little short, and so does the bottom line.

My mom and step dad kept everything seperate---and when he died suddenly, she was left with $50 dollars that we found
hid away in the tools...and thats all...

Togather WE can do anything....
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