SecretMethod70

Simple question: If I get a speeding ticket in a state other than the one in which I live, will that conviction be shared with the state in which I live and then count toward the number of allowable tickets within a given timeframe before license suspension?

I actually did not have any convictions on my record before this, but I got two tickets on the way to a friend's house in Iowa - one in IL, one in IA - so I want to make sure that I only have one conviction in IL and not two. Unfortunately, traffic school isn't an option because I've had supervision in the past 12 months.

To make this into a discussion thread, how many speeding tickets have you gotten? Do you drive the speed limit? Five over? Ten over? Do you have a lead foot?

My driving habits depend on where I am. In residential areas, I tend to drive the speed limit. On major streets, I'll typically go 5 over if there's no traffic. In the case of my trip to Iowa, I was going 15 over (80 in a 65) on a well-paved, rural highway with little traffic. I guess that's what I get for taking my Chicago driving habits - where 15 over on the expressway is pretty much the norm - to rural IL and IA

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amonkie

From your favorite site, it sounds like IL is part of a Non Resident Violator Compact


Non-Resident Violator Compact - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Probably wouldn't hurt to act like the ticket was in IL and take steps to resolve it.

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genuinegirly

I'm more careful about my speed in Ohio than I ever was in LA. In LA, it was all about keeping up with the flow of those around you. If everyone moved slowly, you moved slowly. If everyone was speeding, you sped. I didn't frequently drive in off-hours where I was the only one on the road. Here in Ohio, there are fewer people and there isn't the same hustling flow. I live in a rural area so the highways I frequent have one lane in each direction. If someone wants to pass me they can, but I will be going no more than 5mph over the speed limit.

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SecretMethod70

Taking steps to resolve it is pretty obvious, no? That compact applies to unpaid tickets, but I'm wondering about paid tickets. Those count as convictions against the driving record and if you get enough then your license is suspended for a period of time. In IL, I believe you're allowed 3 tickets in 5 years. It's unlikely this information will matter, but I'd rather know nonetheless. I'd imagine the conviction counts, but I'm not entirely sure.

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Yeah, it's the rural areas that get me. They drive by different rules there. I don't like it

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Psycho Dad

Locally I know the speed traps. And in Redneckville they are numerous.

Out of town, I go with the flow. Haven't had a ticket since '95.

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SecretMethod70

Looks like I found an answer to my particular question:Good thing I don't live in North Carolina, eh? In Illinois it takes going 25 over before the reckless driving kicks in. Of course, Illinois drivers, and specifically those from around Chicago, have a reputation in the surrounding areas. We return the favor by complaining about how slow everyone else drives.

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Fotzlid

Paid 5, won 3 in court and at least 6 written warnings. Let go with nothing at least 6 times.
Yelled at twice.
That was mostly in my youth. Only been stopped twice in the past 5 years and was in uniform on my way to work both times and only told to slow down.

I generally drive near the speed limit most of the time. Get frisky occasionally on some twisty roads I found in the area. If I'm on the Interstate/highway for a long enough trip, its cruise control at 70-75.
If the Interstate/highway is empty enough, I'll hit triple digits for a brief time. Not all the time though.

LoganSnake

Got my first one in four years of driving this past Spring. Was going 47 in 30 after midnight coming home from hanging out with friends and didn't see a cop coming up in the oncoming lane due to the serpentine-like road through the local woods (read - no street lights).

On average, I do 5-10 over or depending on traffic. I go the speed limit in local areas that I know have speed traps. On the highway, I go as fast as traffic allows within the Chicago city limits and usually 80 once I'm out. The fastest I've ever gone while behind the wheel is 90, but I was in a car that was doing 122 once.

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IdeoFunk

I got a bad one once while on the way to work some fall morning a few years back. That sucker got me 4 demerit points. I fought it to get it down to 3 and to delay the conviction. It wasn't bad because I was cancelling my insurance and selling my car anyways to pay for my schooling. It took me 4 years to get another car and all my demerit points are now gone. In the city I have a bad habit for speeding, but because my car is having difficulties I usually just pull something like 110/115kmph on the hwys.... If I had a nice new car though I can imagine me going a bit faster.

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Rural.. Hah.. If you seeing cops, you aren't rural enough.

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Glory's Sun

man I've had quite a few speeding tickets..and by that I mean over 10. The law might say your license can be suspended in NC for +15 over.. but that just means you had a shitty lawyer.

I got one about a year ago going 91 in a 55.. no points.. got one a few years back 100 in a 45.. (I was really dumb back then) I got a few points for that one, but only because I had a careless and reckless tagged to the ticket as well and the judge wouldn't budge. Had quite a few others that were 15 over the limit and never got any points or suspensions..

JumpinJesus

The fact that you got two tickets in the same trip means you probably didn't learn your lesson the first time around. Instead of trying to figure out how to avoid the consequences of your actions, you should just learn to follow the law.

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Lasereth

I've never got a speeding ticket though I've been pulled over and given tickets for other stuff. I've gotten 2 tickets for expired registration during college where the renewals didn't go to my actual address. I've been pulled over twice for speeding, once about 9 years ago and once a few months ago. The first time he said slow down and left. The second time I was let go because the officer knew me.

I usually do 5 over bare minimum, anywhere regardless of the speed limit. On the highway I do 7-10 over, usually 7 over average. Sometimes if there's a median and I can see a mile ahead of me and a mile behind me, I'll do 20, 30 over, sometimes more. I have a Whistler Pro 78 radar detector which detects radars mile(s) away, even around corners and behind hills. I could probably speed everywhere I go, 15 over or more with this thing but I don't want a ticket.

BTW SM70, how did they get you? Radar? Did they come up behind you without you seeing them?

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Cynthetiq

I've only experienced this if the states participate in reciprocity. This generally happens to border states, NJ/NY have reciprocity, but not always.

Other countries, I've just disregarded completely. I can not return to Finland...

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Daniel_

If anyone can prove they were driving my car in England last week, please send me your licence number.

Apparently, whichever of you it was drove past a police speed check...

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thingstodo

I seem to get one every 10 years or so. It is usually something dumb I have done like go faster than everyone else around me or get pissed off with a slow driver and buzz around my first opportunity. I normally go 5-0 over the limit - even in Ohio - and never get nailed for that as long as I'm going with the flow of traffic.

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LoganSnake

Insightful...

Following the law is too slow.

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Master_Shake

x2. The "law" is designed to encourage speeding to raise revenue. It has nothing to do with safety or a respect for authority. Getting a speeding ticket is the reverse lottery we all play by driving on public roads.

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OK, this is false ... I mean dude, you must really hate capitalism!! To blame everything on it is just ...

I go with JJ here. You have to keep the to the speed limit because you're a HAZARD to other drivers. Street-ways have a maximum limit of 45mp/h because, well, try cornering with a household sedan vehicle at 45mp/h and see what happens. Rural area highways have speed limits maximum of 70mp/h because thats really all you need. Plus the 5 extra mp/h compensates for the lack of traffic. Going any faster will reduce the time you get to your destination by 10 minutes and this is because you have to include other variable factors such as traffic flow and lights.

Sorry SMeth, I won't take capital bashing lying down, ever!

That said, back to the OP ... nothing useful here, carry on.

EDIT: Now that I think about it I once had a ticket for doing 65 on a 35 zone. Needless to say they never even gave me a ticket, just the pink summons to court. I immediately got a lawyer on it.

Another time n my way to Wilmington I was going 95 on a 70 zone when I saw what might have been a dodge charger. As soon as I confirmed it was, in fact, a dodge charger, which could only be accomplished by passing it, I pulled in front of it and reduced speed to 77mp/h without braking. This meant he didn't have enough time to clock me but he pulled me over anyway. This took place at Sampson County in Clinton.

"Son, you know the speed limit aroun' here?" Fingers in belt buckle.
"Err, it has to be like, erm, 70?" sheepishly.
"Well yeah son, do ya know fast'chyou were goin'?"
"I must've been doing like 72?"
"Son you weren't goin' the speed limit 'cause I was doin' the sped limit and you passed me easily."
"Officer I apologize but I'm pretty confident because I was cruisin'!"
"May I see your license and registration please?"
"OK" This time a litany of "SHIT! SHIT! SHIT! SHIT! SHIT! SHIT! SHIT!" is playing in my head because I hadn't registered the car yet.

He got me off on a warning for the speeding, but I got a ticket that would be dismissed had I proved I had registered the car by the 21st of august. Stupid thing is, I thought it was the 21st of July so I showed up a month early. They handled my case non the less and charges were dropped.

Grasshopper Green

I've never received a speeding ticket; the only thing I've ever been pulled over for is a burnt out headlight. I sped when I was younger, but I don't speed much anymore. Never intentionally in the city and if I speed on the interstate, it's usually only 5 m.p.h. over the limit. The speed limit on the interstate here is 65, and I've seen people get pulled over for going 72ish (barely faster than my 68-70) but I think most highway patrol here won't pull someone over until they're 75+. Personally, I'd rather reach my destination a few minutes later than risk paying a ridiculous fine.

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SecretMethod70

Forgive the slight threadjack, but it's my thread so whatever...

I don't know if it's just the internet, or if reading comprehension really is getting worse, but it's kind of annoying to get responses telling me to take care of the tickets, or that I shouldn't try to avoid the consequences of my actions, when I've made no such indications. I didn't ask how to get out of the tickets; I didn't even complain that I got them, because even 1mph over is still speeding. I simply asked whether or not the IA ticket would count in IL, because I want to be fully informed about my status under the law. Generally, knowing such information is a good thing. How a simple question like that can be seen as trying to avoid the tickets, I have absolutely no idea.

This is the second time this has happened in the past month too. When I wasn't feeling well and asked for input, I still got a handful of posts telling me nothing more than to go to the doctor, despite the fact that the very first sentence of the thread indicated that I had an appointment for the next day.

Anyway, most of the posts here have been helpful and interesting, but that needed to be said. If I wanted to know how to get out of paying the tickets, I would have asked how to get out of paying the tickets. I didn't.

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Back to the actual discussion...

No, I can't say I learned my lesson the first time, but that's pretty obvious isn't it? I will say that the IL ticket was more deserved though: I was genuinely going too fast for that road. In IA, 80 was a perfectly reasonable speed for the road I was on. Yes, it's still speeding and I, of course, deserve the ticket because I knew I was breaking the law, but unlike in IL my actual driving was downright safe. In other states, the road I was on would have had a speed limit of 75 rather than 65.

It's interesting, unless there's traffic to slow things down (which is, unfortunately, pretty common), 7 over on the expressway is slow in Chicago. The average is 10 over on the low end, 15 over on the upper end. If you're going 62 in a 55, you're holding up traffic.

The type of road you described is what I was on in IA. Perfectly straight, perfectly paved, and a giant median in between the two directions. I don't even think of it as a median: there's so much space in between the two directions, they may as well be considered two separate roads. Anyway, I've taken that drive numerous times and it's normally possible to go 90 (25 over) for much of the way without any problems. I found out afterward that they were cracking down that weekend though, so when the squad car passed me up on the other side and I was going 80, he swung around at the next opportunity and came after me. He was a really nice guy though, we made small talk and everything. That's another difference between speeding in IA and IL ;P

If someone is taking a corner in a sedan at 45mp/h then no question they're an idiot. That said, it's certainly possible to go faster than the speed limit and be entirely safe. Speed limits are designed with the lowest common denominator of driving quality in mind. That's the way it should be, and I'm not complaining, but it's silly to think going faster than the speed limit is always unsafe.

I wouldn't even want to go 70 on a road that involves traffic flow and lights. When I'm driving 70 or 75, it's on a straight road with no lights and almost no traffic. Throw intersections in the mix and that's an entirely different story. I'm all for reasonably bending the rules, but even when you're speeding you need to be thinking of the other people on the road first.

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Xerxys

^^Instead of highways I should have said interstates. And the fact that you think that people who "think going any faster is silly" means you trust other people more than you trust the law.

I'll leave you with this ... many people know how to make a car move in straight line, few people know how to drive.

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SecretMethod70

No, the law needs to be what it is because of the fact you don't know who can and can't be trusted. The law needs to be safe. But there are absolutely more and less capable drivers out there. That means that there are absolutely drivers out there who can safely drive over the speed limit and know when it is and is not appropriate. The law can't know that, and so it needs to be the way it is because of that. But what the law should be for public safety has little to do with defining what is and is not safe. It's simply the best safeguard we have.

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JumpinJesus

When you ask people on an internet forum a question that can very easily be answered with a simple phone call or when you ask for medical advice on the internet, do you really expect to receive anything worthwhile? That you get upset over getting responses you don't want on the internet says more about your motives for posting rather than the reading comprehension skills of those responding.



You stated You got two tickets but only want one conviction out of it?

Instead of questioning my reading comprehension (no need to be coy and passive about to whom you were referring) you should ensure that your message is clear and consistent throughout a discussion. This would include not saying you want only one conviction to result from two offenses and then claim you weren't looking to avoid any consequences.

Of course, all this becomes moot if you just follow the speed limit.

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SecretMethod70

*shrug* I don't see much difference between discussing something here or discussing it while hanging out with live people... no reason not to talk about medical or legal issues just because people aren't experts, so long as the source is kept in mind. Besides, TFP isn't 4chan; I don't see why one can't expect worthwhile advice and discussion here. If the opinions of the average TFPer weren't worthwhile, I don't think many of us would be here. While the answer to my specific question could have been found through a google search, so could just about any other thread asking a question on TFP, and I figured the rest would be an interesting discussion to have here.

Anyway, didn't mean to seem coy, but yours wasn't the only post I was referring to. Probably wouldn't have even frustrated me had I not just had a similar experience in the other thread. In fact, I wouldn't even say I'm upset about it, just kind of annoyed. I guess "make sure" might not have been the best phrase; how about "find out" instead. Do people really read it that literally though? I got two tickets and hoped for one conviction in Illinois, but I have no interest in bypassing the law.

Following the speed limit would work, but then I wouldn't be furthering the Chicago driver reputation among our neighbors, and what fun would that be? (That's said tongue-in-cheek, just so we can avoid any confusion )

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Lasereth

slash agree sir, slash agree

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slushi123

I would like to know how to get out of a speeding ticket? What are some good exuses to tell the judge? I was going 24 over and I just dont want the points and secondly cant afford the fine at this time. I need to find ways what to tell the judge so he can be lenient. Thanks in advance.