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Old 06-25-2003, 09:16 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Ladies in the Ladies Lounge

I'm sorry, but I've been reading all the posts in the Ladies Lounge, as I find it really interesting and it gives a real insight into a woman's thoughts and gives good advice for guys to help their love life; and I've found that a lot of you are insecure with yourselves or with your relationship.

All I have to say is that if you're in a relationship, you must be doing something right. If you're with someone and you know that they are happy, then you don't have to feel insecure. It's human nature for a guy to look at another girl that passes by with nothing more than a few pieces of string covering her most intimate parts, but it's just natural. I love my girlfriend with all my heart and would never leave her, but I do it. I can't help it. I guess what I'm trying to say is that you really should feel more comfortable with yourselves. What you see in yourself and in the mirror is probably something completely different than what your significant other sees. You are your toughest critic, and when you look in the mirror, you only see the negative things; but take a step back and look at how happy your SO is with you. I guess what I'm trying to say is that you shouldn't feel so insecure with yourselves (I know; easier said than done). If you know they're going to be there tomorrow and happy as always with you, then you have nothing to worry about.


That's all I have to say, and I hope some of you find it even somewhat enlightening or uplifting.
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Old 06-25-2003, 09:20 PM   #2 (permalink)
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thanks, that's a very sweet post!

it sure makes me smile, and i hope all the other ladies read this too and appreciate and see the truth in your kind words.

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Old 06-25-2003, 09:23 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Hell, I'm just going to applaud you for having read the rules and posting this in GD rather than posting in the LL, then getting into trouble with the ladies.
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Old 06-25-2003, 10:18 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Hell, I'm going to have to applaud you for your good words.
I agree with them fully.
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Old 06-25-2003, 10:39 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Bit out pf the ordinary... but wise words indeed!

Welcome to TFP too!
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Old 06-26-2003, 01:13 AM   #6 (permalink)
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Hell, I'm just going to applaud you for having read the rules and posting this in GD rather than posting in the LL, then getting into trouble with the ladies.
Me too
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Old 06-26-2003, 02:17 AM   #7 (permalink)
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Re: Ladies in the Ladies Lounge

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I'm sorry, but I've been reading all the posts in the Ladies Lounge
haha thats a great way to start off the post, good job. Supportive as well
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Old 06-26-2003, 05:32 AM   #8 (permalink)
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Isn't that sweet?!
Thank you for your kind, and very smart, words.
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Old 06-26-2003, 10:35 AM   #9 (permalink)
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Very insightful, Papa. Thanks for sharing your thoughts.
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Old 06-26-2003, 04:29 PM   #10 (permalink)
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Very well spoken. Thanks for your words
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Old 06-26-2003, 04:54 PM   #11 (permalink)
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New, nice AND smart! Thank you so very much for your kind words. We all can use a little boost from time to time and there are some absolutely wonderfuly men here who aren't afraid to be the cheerleaders of self esteem! Glad you have joined as one of them!
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Old 06-26-2003, 05:02 PM   #12 (permalink)
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I agree with you.
I tend to stumble into the ladies lounge on occasion (Usually because I miss the Members Playground or Tilted advice when I'm using the forum jump.) But when I do go in there I do read a couple of the posts and I find them to be very insightful and educational. We men can learn a lot by reading what's in the ladies lounge.

Just remember to hide the keyboard so the temptation to post isnt there.
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Old 06-26-2003, 06:54 PM   #13 (permalink)
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I always found it was like reading Cosmo. Good for a few laughs. But if you disagree with something, you have to bite your tongue!
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Old 06-26-2003, 07:40 PM   #14 (permalink)
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I always found it was like reading Cosmo. Good for a few laughs. But if you disagree with something, you have to bite your tongue!
Yes, I was going to say exactly that...my roomate (female) has a lot of Cosmo's and out of boredom, I started reading them. Very enlightening experience as you get to find out a lot of what women are thinking.

And not only do I think guys should read Cosmo to learn more about women, Girls should read Maxim or FHM or some other similiar magazine to find out more about guys.
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Old 06-26-2003, 07:58 PM   #15 (permalink)
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In theory, I agree with Papageorgeo101's statement. However,

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If you're with someone and you know that they are happy, then you don't have to feel insecure
it's the knowing that they are happy that's the problem. Most guys don't talk about their feelings very much and that helps keep the woman insecure. Looking at other women when you're with her is one of the things that make her doubt your happiness with her.

And I think reading women's magazines is a horrible idea. These magazines are a large part of the reason women don't think they're good enough, thin enough, pretty enough, etc. because they're trying to keep up with an airbrushed impossible standard.

But I could be wrong.
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Old 06-26-2003, 08:46 PM   #16 (permalink)
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In theory, I agree with Papageorgeo101's statement. However,



it's the knowing that they are happy that's the problem. Most guys don't talk about their feelings very much and that helps keep the woman insecure. Looking at other women when you're with her is one of the things that make her doubt your happiness with her.

And I think reading women's magazines is a horrible idea. These magazines are a large part of the reason women don't think they're good enough, thin enough, pretty enough, etc. because they're trying to keep up with an airbrushed impossible standard.

But I could be wrong.
I guess that's where the trust in relationships comes in. I never ask my girlfriend straight up whether she's happy being with me; I just trust that she is as she has been with me for so long and she doesn't show any negative emotions towards me. If your SO is showing negative emotions towards you, confront him about it and be blunt by asking him if he really is happy with you. It'll hit him like a ton of bricks, but it's that quick and direct approach that doesn't give someone time to think of a lie or something to change the subject to.

Also, just remember the age old saying: "Actions speak louder than words". There is more truth to that statement than anyone could possibly comprehend, and it especially applies in relationships; although sometimes your SO might be going through a rough time (i.e. long work hours, recent family loss, stressfull situations) and that might change their view on the world temporarily, but the rough times come with the good times. The point is, they don't have to be expressive with their feelings, but they do come out in their actions, so if you want, you can judge by that, and like I said, if you feel that they aren't happy with you, confront them about it and perhaps they might realize that they're putting out the wrong image and try to fix it.

(oh, and by the way...the whole women's magazines thing is a very good example of a double standard in society. If a woman is reading Cosmo, other women will look at her and place her in the ranks of being an up to date, down to earth girl. Now, if a woman was to see a man reading Maxim, which is basically the male version of Cosmo, they would think of him as a pig. I've seen it happen and I've had it happen to me. I've got dirty looks while reading jokes in Maxim just because women have that idea that society portrays. Ugh...I can't stand double standards. And in reply to your comment, the magazines do portray the "ideal" girl, but the truth is it's up to the guys in society to decide what they like. Personally, I don't like some of the women that are portrayed as "perfect", because I've set my own standards. I prefer a girl that's not very very thin. I prefer a girl who will go to a restaurant and order more than just a glass of water and a crouton. God, I love my girlfriend. )

Oh yes, and thank you everyone for your kind comments towards my post and myself in general. It really does brighten up your day to hear someone else talking about you in a positive way.

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New, nice AND smart! Thank you so very much for your kind words. We all can use a little boost from time to time and there are some absolutely wonderfuly men here who aren't afraid to be the cheerleaders of self esteem! Glad you have joined as one of them!
*go team!*

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Old 06-26-2003, 09:21 PM   #17 (permalink)
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(oh, and by the way...the whole women's magazines thing is a very good example of a double standard in society. If a woman is reading Cosmo, other women will look at her and place her in the ranks of being an up to date, down to earth girl. Now, if a woman was to see a man reading Maxim, which is basically the male version of Cosmo, they would think of him as a pig. I've seen it happen and I've had it happen to me. I've got dirty looks while reading jokes in Maxim just because women have that idea that society portrays.
I really appreciate the positive vibe that you bring to the TFP, Papageorgeo101, and I don't want to rain on your parade, but Cosmo magazine is a rag. A woman that reads Cosmo for more than just kicks, is _not_ a down-to-earth girl - she's the exact opposite.

Oh, and you've gotten dirty looks while *reading the jokes* in Maxim? Hrm, sounds alot like the *I only read Playboy for the articles, excuse.*
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Old 06-26-2003, 11:22 PM   #18 (permalink)
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I agree completely with what Papageorgeo101 said. I'm also glad to hear that most women don't take Cosmo seriously. Those who do scare me.

I'd also just like to throw in something that the Y Chromosome prevents me from throwing into a thread in the LL. There is a free program available at www.matrixm.com that, when activated, will cause your cell phone's vibrate mode to activate and stay on (will stop for a half-second every once in a while) until you take the battery off.
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Old 06-27-2003, 07:07 AM   #19 (permalink)
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I agree completely with what Papageorgeo101 said. I'm also glad to hear that most women don't take Cosmo seriously. Those who do scare me.

I'd also just like to throw in something that the Y Chromosome prevents me from throwing into a thread in the LL. There is a free program available at www.matrixm.com that, when activated, will cause your cell phone's vibrate mode to activate and stay on (will stop for a half-second every once in a while) until you take the battery off.
What on Earth would that be good for?

*grin*

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Old 06-27-2003, 05:27 PM   #20 (permalink)
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[Thanks that is a very nice post! It made me feel alot better about myself and your words are so correct. I really apperciate the kind words. You must be a very sweet person.
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Old 06-27-2003, 09:01 PM   #21 (permalink)
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[Thanks that is a very nice post! It made me feel alot better about myself and your words are so correct. I really apperciate the kind words. You must be a very sweet person.
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heh...I wouldn't say that. I'm just stating the obvious and perhaps (hopefully) uplifting someone's spirits and making them more comfortable with themselves. I try to take after my uncle, who actually just retired tonight after 40 years of work in the CAW (Canadian Auto Workers). He got the key to the city, a letter from the Prime Minister, and a whole bunch of other awards, plaques, and trophies. I really wish I could mold myself around him and follow his example, but I guess for right now I can just be me, and that's all I can be.

Oh yeah, and Double D...I didn't say all I read was the jokes . That just happened to be what I was reading at the time. But truthfully though, Maxim is good reading. They had an article entitled "Master your Johnson" that was actually really helpful for in the bedroom. It gave a whole bunch of tips to "hold off your fire" and a whole bunch of other things that just make the experience better overall. Very good magazeine.
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