jewels, patsy died 2 years ago of ovarian cancer

Hi SF! I remember that, but did they have problem prior? Or am I thinking of someone else?

Hey :) they were still married when she died, to my knowledge they had no problems (between themselves)

So I guess that's why it made headlines today: the media was trying to make up for all of the suspicions and negative publicity cast on the family. Perhaps they were trying to make amends?

It's pretty sad, too. I took a look at the headline and literally thought, "that case is still going on??"

I saw him on the news last night. How awful an ordeal it must have been for them. :no:

BTW, John Mark Carr is now engaged to a 23 year old, the first time he's ever pledged to marry someone of legal age.

I wonder what she sees in him?

Jewels, I dont know how "in your face" it was elsewhere (besides Colorado) but since they lived here (and JB was buried here) everything that family did was on the news here, I wont say that I never thought they did it, I think a lot of people were doubtful but with the Susan Smith case, it proved anything is possible, but that poor family had more than their fair share of shit to put up with.

I heard Mr. Ramsey on some show last night. He sounded like "well, i'm just glad there's progress and I'm hopeful a suspect, the responsible person, can now be found." He didn't sound bitter at all, least not to me. I got to tell you I think I'd be one bitter old man by this point. I think I be on the news saying "I fucking told you so, all you fucking reporters and most of the LE folks had us convicted in the court of public opinion years ago. Well, fuck you. My wife went to her grave with many folks thinking she killed a person she loved dearly."

I have to admit I thought they probably were good for it. I remember talking to other officers about this at the time and the main consensus seemed to be "yeah, they did it but the crime scene guys screwed it up so bad they'll never get a conviction."

I think of all the news reports I saw only one made it sound like "you know there's a real possibility some unknown person did enter the house and kill the child." All the rest seemed to say "seriously, what are the odds?" Of course I'm no expert on the case and didn't really follow it that closely, there may have been a ton of reports that made it sound like they might not have done it.

If I remember correctly, she has a 3 year old daughter. I would assume that is what he sees in her.... ugh!

Bingo!

Wish I didn't think you were dead on here. I don't understand these people that get involved with known fuck wads. I think I read somewhere that Richard Ramirez, the serial killer, was married in prison.

I don't get it.

Uh-huh.

And, that's a good thing.

The whole case is just sad.

I remember seeing a documentary about the Carr guy maybe a year or more ago and that he confessed to some journalist?

I know every famous crime gets a lot of fake confessions... but if there if it is known that this guy IS the killer, and its one of those cases when they know but they just dont have the proof to bring it to court... is there any real reason not to simply shoot him in the street like a dog?

I mean, I understand police state and pretty dangerous precedents and all... but if a guy who raped and killed a 6 year old kid is killed, who actually is going to care or seek "justice"?

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Like when the police found that girl who got kidnapped (Elizabeth something?) for over a year and was constantly abused and raped... if I was one of the people who came to the scene with the guy who did that shit to her I'd have shot him dead where he stood. Who is ever gonna prosecute you for it? And why should that girl always live with the nightmare that he might get out one day and might come back for her? If it is that big of a deal you could just put him in the back of a car, drive him back to the jailhouse and throttle him, then say "oops he hanged himself" I suppose.